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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 6 2010, 08:40 PM

As you have probably seen, we (the instructors) did a collab which turned out pretty cool (check it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0NFOiuMKCc).

This time around we want everyone to participate! Students, instructors, moderators, ninjas and dogs (etc). The plan is to showcase the diversity of styles we have got at GMC. When we are done with the mix I will put together a video which hopefully will get more youtube views than the last one (~50k and counting). So in a way this can be seen as a competition where the winners get to be featured in a video watched by tens of thousands, playing with some of the best guitarists out there. Not so bad, huh?!

So who "wins"? -The ones with the most musical and unique takes (according to my taste...). So let's get rolling:
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BACKINGS
 big_collab_bt.mp3 ( 8.16MB ) : 3692

 big_collab_bt_drums_only.mp3 ( 8.16MB ) : 3223

('Drums only' are for those of you want to get really crazy.)

BPM: 135
Tonality: A minor and E minor, the outro is in E major (N.B. Tune down to Eb)

My take:


You can try the following scales if you are using standard tuning.

B major / Ab minor / Ab minor pentatonic
you can also try
Eb minor / Eb minor pentatonic

If you are using Eb tuning (like me)

C major / A minor / A minor pentatonic
you can also try
E minor / E minor pentatonic
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RULES

Start date Friday August 13th. Takes uploaded prior to this date will be removed, this is because we want everyone to have "fresh" ears when recording their takes. We don't really have a collab deadline - I will notify in advance when I think we are starting to get enough takes.

Video requirement - that's right. The end result will be a video, so I need to know that people who submit an audio take can also record a video (not valid for instructors). You can either link to an old rec take of yours or record a new video. But you need to provide evidence of your video capabalities when submitting your audio take(s). The easiest way is of course if you record audio and video at the same time.

Audio
The idea is that anyone may have a go at any part(s) and then I will do my best to glue it all together. All styles, speeds and instruments accepted.

Please send me all takes starting from "point 0" on the backing - to make it easier for me to mix this. You can upload the mp3 here or send me the wave file for optimal quality ([email protected] - please use rapidshare.com or yousendit.com)

Please do not use any reverb at all - this way I can apply the same reverb to all takes to make the mix sound more unison.
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I am personally having a blast with this backing - and expect to not only participate in this collab but also record a complete song of my own with it (most of it is actually already done! ). I hope many people will enjoy the backing so we can get a lot of participants.

Posted by: Vaidya Aug 6 2010, 08:46 PM

Wow! That sounds awesome! Sadly,im not good enough to even make an attempt

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 6 2010, 08:49 PM

Well Vaidya - if you do an attempt you will either

1) get into the final mix - everyone is happy! Or...

2) not get into the final mix - but learn a heck of a lot while trying, everyone is still happy!

So in other words you have got absolutely nothing to loose!

Posted by: Vaidya Aug 6 2010, 08:53 PM

Hmm,yeah,i'll probably learn a lot if I make an attempt.Maybe i'll give it a shot.

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 6 2010, 09:16 PM

count me in!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 6 2010, 09:18 PM

Hehe awesome Chris!

Posted by: MigeZ Aug 6 2010, 10:09 PM

Count me in eventhough I'm not sure that my take will be able to get into the Final mix
Cheers

Posted by: superize Aug 6 2010, 10:15 PM

That was a long backingtrack........

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 6 2010, 10:20 PM

The backing track is written to suit my original song idea. You only need to play over a part of it (if you want to).

Depending on what kind of takes we get, we could make it shorter, longer or even split it up into two different tracks.

Posted by: superize Aug 6 2010, 10:33 PM

OK

Posted by: maharzan Aug 7 2010, 06:42 AM

Great... I got an idea for the intro.. will be working on it.

Posted by: Gitarrero Aug 7 2010, 07:33 AM

I'm still not quite sure which direction to go with this BT, but I'll figure it out, so count me in!

Posted by: maharzan Aug 7 2010, 12:42 PM

Is it good to do just one part or we have to do a whole song? I already have composed the intro..

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Aug 7 2010, 02:36 PM

as always im in man!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 7 2010, 03:45 PM

I'd like to participate,

The takes HAVE to be submitted in video?

Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 7 2010, 04:55 PM

I'M IN! cooool

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 7 2010, 08:50 PM

You can do just one part!




Yes if your take makes it to the final mix we must have a video from you!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 7 2010, 11:14 PM

Can't wait! If the last one is any indication, this one is going to be AMAZING!

The start has a Funky POLKA feel to it! It's very light hearted and should be loads of fun.

Todd

Posted by: Jitty Aug 8 2010, 06:02 AM

I'd like to give this one a shot, it sounds awesome

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 8 2010, 09:42 AM

Hehe yes it's fun and groovy to jam over + there is a nice contrast when the rhythm guitars kicks in!

Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 10 2010, 09:10 AM

Wow, Kris... another collab ! Even crazier than the last one, haha... you sure do keep us on our toes and like to push us out of our comfort zones musically, which is a good thing ;-)

I look forward to seeing whatever I can come up with... and stoked that everybody can participate.. There will be some amazing ideas from everyone I'm sure !! :-)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 10 2010, 09:19 AM

Good to hear you will give at shot Ben - I know you will raise the quality of the whole collab!

I was a little hesitant about the backing since the polka think is pretty far from rock n roll - but since I got lots of ideas from it figured others might as well...!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Aug 10 2010, 04:32 PM

I can't miss this one!
great bts Kris!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 11 2010, 04:06 PM

Cool! The backing sound very good Kris! I'll start jamming over it today so I'll be posting the coolest sections when the uploads time begins!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 11 2010, 10:53 PM

I can't miss this one, that's for sure!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 12 2010, 08:41 AM

It would absolutely awesome to have your takes Gabe, Lian and Ivan!!

Posted by: RobK87 Aug 12 2010, 11:06 PM

How long (roughly) should the section that we post our solo against be?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2010, 08:03 AM

It can be as long or short as you would like it to be - just four well placed notes might work very well!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 15 2010, 11:42 AM

Has ayone recorded anything yet? (my take is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iydj1RYfY5Y)

Posted by: maharzan Aug 15 2010, 02:25 PM

I have.. but after looking at your take, I don't feel like submitting..

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 17 2010, 12:59 AM

man, your take is so great, I don't want you to influence me...

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 19 2010, 10:44 PM

I've been jamming over the backing and I like the ideas that I played over this section so I worked this part a bit adding some harmonized guitars.

 Big_collab_Gabriel_Leopardi_with_backing.mp3 ( 1.12MB ) : 406

Posted by: Praetorian Aug 19 2010, 11:26 PM

Here is another collab I put together awhile back. This one was all GMC members doing parts from Cliffs of Dover! I had a blast putting this together, the guys did a KILLER job! Most of the members aren't around anymore...but I think you will recognize the last player!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 20 2010, 02:47 AM

Just noticed this seems to be E Flat Minor. So tune down a half step, or transpose as needed

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 20 2010, 08:06 PM

Amazing! Loved it Gabriel - it has everything, melody, harmony and shred. I must also say I am hearing some awesome legato chops in there?! Can't wait to move on with this one.



Well caught Todd - I keep forgetting about my tuning. I have edit the post. Can't wait to hear your take by the way!



That was an awesome collab Ben - I remember it very well (and recognize everybody). Awesome work you did there.



Man it would be an honor to influence you- can't wait to hear your take!



I am quite sure we will find a place for everyone in this collab (we have the option to do different versions etc). However in your case I wouldn't be very worried as I have seen some great stuff from you!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 20 2010, 11:48 PM

Here's my take

I did some planning and some improvising on it

Posted by: Praetorian Aug 21 2010, 12:40 AM

Holy harmonics Batman! That was crazy!

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Aug 21 2010, 01:12 AM

tried my best to record something cool here but i just can't find myself playing this backing track man, it is a challenge!!
will try again

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 21 2010, 09:41 AM

Very cool take Daniel - fresh phrasing and brutal tapping ideas! This could turn out into a completely wicked collab!

Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 21 2010, 09:10 PM

Daniel, that's crazy...!! Just WHEN was it that you sold your soul to the Devil....???? ;-)))

This will be a fantastic collab...!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 23 2010, 06:10 AM

Thank you Kris! I'm glad that you like it! This collaboration will be amazing!

Here I'm posting the only guitar track:  Big_collab_Gabriel_Leopardi_no_backing.mp3 ( 2.85MB ) : 245


Let me know when you'll need the video for this one!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 23 2010, 03:23 PM

Thank you Ben!

No, I haven't sold my soul to the devil that I'm aware of

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2010, 03:28 PM

Maybe your parents did it without telling you

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 23 2010, 03:45 PM

I'm sure they had a good reason...they said they wanted the best for me

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 23 2010, 09:27 PM

rightio, heres my kinda quirky take

I can get a vid done as soon as you need it, I`ll post the guitar only version then as well

 big_collab_Chris_with_BT.mp3 ( 1.31MB ) : 381


Edit: actually, I`ve carried on twiddling with this since posting (its an addictive backing!!) I`m going to post a variation on this tomorrow!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 24 2010, 01:19 AM

it wasn't easy for me to come up with a take for this collab,

yours is very natural and musical, I can tell you spent time and energy on this, great!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 24 2010, 08:05 AM

Awesome - Chris you are the man!! This is excellent, melody is all over it and you used the intro break in a very clever way. This will be a killer collab - can't wait to hear what more contributions we get.

PS To everyone who has submitted a take - please send me the guitar only audio!

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 24 2010, 12:44 PM

I agree, it took me some time also to work something out for this backing, but once I hit on an idea it all made a lot more sense, now I`ve been sitting with it I have some additional ideas that I want to work into my take, thanks for your comments




cheers Kris, this is a really interesting backing, kinda quirky at first but has really grown on me and I cant get it out of my head at the moment! , I will post my revised take tonight with audio only as well

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 24 2010, 01:09 PM

Good to hear Chris. It struck after posting this thread that the backing probably is pretty weird - I don't know why but it seemed natural to me (and I have never listened to polka!!)

However judging from your comment - it seems I did the right thing if it gets people thinking in new directions.

Can't wait to hear your other takes!

Posted by: Fre Aug 24 2010, 04:35 PM

Wooow, all those killer takes scare me off!
I think of trying it but I'll propably fail. I'm not a pro like you guys.
You have some hints/tricks to help? Should I use Minor scale?

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 24 2010, 06:05 PM

if you check my take, I chose the heavy metal riff to do it. It's in Ebm that part, so yeah, I actually used Ebm pentatonic

here's my take with no backing:

 Daniel_Realpe_no_backing_noreverb.mp3 ( 1.33MB ) : 258

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 24 2010, 09:02 PM

right, after much recording I`ve decided to stick with my original take

heres the guitars only track

 big_collab_Chris_with_no_BT.mp3 ( 612.18K ) : 239

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Aug 24 2010, 09:51 PM

hey Kris, I got my solo already composed... quick question: can I add a few funny growls on it? I got a crazy idea in my head LOL

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 25 2010, 08:02 AM

Of course! Crazyniess is mandatory - we are suppose to have a lot of fun here!! Can't wait to hear your growling!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Aug 25 2010, 02:15 PM

cool! I'm gonna record my take today

Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 29 2010, 08:36 PM

Just listened to your takes, Gabriel and Chris... excellent !! Very melodic.... I personally found Kris's chord choices challenging... but when I listened to it it inspired this funny little polka type melody in my head which is what I went with, so it's really interesting to see the melodic directions that you've taken.. much like Kris's guitar lines himself !

Can't wait to hear this !

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 29 2010, 09:20 PM

I know, it's somehow challenging, but that makes it really fun!

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 29 2010, 10:18 PM

thanks Ben!

yea, a very challenging backing, it took a little while to get it together but echoing Daniel, that added an extra fun element to it

I`m looking forward to Kris piecing this together, will be cool!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 29 2010, 10:28 PM

thank you Ben!! and yes, it's a very challenging backing!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 30 2010, 09:06 AM

What a killer, wacky backing! Great job on that, very unexpected! I did a take over a small chunk in a pitch black room using my fret light guitar. Here is the video clip. I can post the track as well later if you decided to use it in the mix Let me know what you think

Posted by: MirkoSchmidt Aug 30 2010, 10:12 AM

waahhaaa, thats sounds absolutly crazy! i llove it daniel!

Posted by: maharzan Aug 30 2010, 11:30 AM

I gotta record what I have but my guitar is giving me troubles...

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 30 2010, 03:39 PM

Some very cool stuff in there Todd - please send the track, I need to fiddle around with the different takes for a while before I can determine what will work.

Also best is if you can send me a fairly unprocessed guitar track. Last time I had problems with your take in the mix - I think it was because the sound was "scooped". It works very well for the metal sound but a midrange poor sound is hard for me to fit in the mix.



Sorry I should of course have mentioned something about this!

You can try the following scales if you are using standard tuning.

B major / Ab minor / Ab minor pentatonic
you can also try
Eb minor / Eb minor pentatonic

If you are using Eb tuning (like me)

C major / A minor / A minor pentatonic
you can also try
E minor / E minor pentatonic

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 30 2010, 04:45 PM

nice take! that's a whacky guitar!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 30 2010, 10:45 PM

KRISTOPHER:
Thanks I'll send the track today. Sorry about the massive "scoop", I typically do quite a bit of scooping out the mids as I do play a lot of metal. I didn't think how much of a pain it would be to mix in without any midrange. I'll "unscoop" this one and pull off as much processing as possible.

DANIEL:
Yeah it's a bit of a wacky instrument, It's a "Fretlight Guitar" It has LEDs built in to the frets. I lit up the Eb Minor Scale while I was soloing. Once you know your scales it's just a cool effect, but when learning it can be a handy tool

HERE IS MY TAKE
*File starts at 0:00 and my take starts at 1:28 so it should lay in to your DAW and just work.
*Stereo Mp3 320kps
*No Delay or Reverb although I Have my mac farther back from the amp so it does sound like the room.
*Unscooped so there is actually some midrange
 Todd_BigCollab_Take1.mp3 ( 8.17MB ) : 283

Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 31 2010, 03:44 PM

Great playing there, Todd... you've a very natural, relaxed legato style there... excellent !

Kris, we do not envy you in having to try and make one whole song out of all these crazy takes... but we know you'll deliver the goods as you always do !!!! I'm really hoping loads of people have had a go at this, in particular GMC students... will be brilliant !

Posted by: Mudbone Aug 31 2010, 04:06 PM

So Todd, do you think that Fretlight guitar is any good? Or is more a gimmick than anything else?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 31 2010, 04:41 PM

OK we need more takes for this collab! Who is working on it?!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 1 2010, 02:58 AM

I must say I was skeptical at first and when I got it, it did need a setup. But I must say after using it for a bit I think it's an amazing teaching/learning tool. Some folks (mostly hard core purists, God bless'em) think it's "cheating" to use a tool like the fretlight. I'd say those folks should skip it. But I really wish this was around when I was first learning all my scales and the neck, it would have sped things up a bit.

if you are a visual learner, this kind of thing can be a big help especially at first. Also, they are working on software that will let me record a lesson, and the student goes to the web site and plugs in their guitar and the frets light up in sequence as to what I want them to play. Spiff

To be completely open about it, I'm endorsed by Fretlight. But I went to them, not the other way around. I really wanted to see if the guitar was worth bothering with. I must say I'm convinced. Although it's NOT a stage or studio level pro guitar, it's a very handy tool that I have a lot of fun teaching and playing with.

Todd






Thanks I went 180 degrees away from alternate picking the heck out of it as I am often tempted to do as I love to alternate pick. This is a really great collab and I can't wait to hear how it turns out! It's soooooo far outside normal with the contrasting polka/metal thing that it really strikes me as brilliant and or crazy, or both!

Todd

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 2 2010, 08:33 PM

I was really busy this month with gigs and everything, but I managed to work on a short take. Didn't have a clear idea on what to play, so I hope this short improvisation will be cool. I must confess it was hard for me to play over the whole track cause the chords changed in a very strange way, so I've chosen the "easiest" part for me The country part is great tho, but just didn't quite managed to play and blend all the parts effectively in the solo.

Posted by: Fre Sep 2 2010, 08:53 PM

@ Todd
Wow! That guitar looks really nice, just like your playing!
But, would the LED's have a cooler effect without the computer lights behind them?
I mean if you turn a few degrees that the LED's are only surrounded by darkness?

@ Kris and Daniel
Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated.
I'll try to play something over the backing.
If I find something ok I'll record it (if I find some recording tools).

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 2 2010, 11:43 PM

here's mine

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 2 2010, 11:59 PM

Daniel this is just KILLER! I have no idea where you come up with this stuff but it's just great. Your creativity and technique really shine here.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 3 2010, 02:30 AM

[quote name='Fre' date='Sep 2 2010, 03:53 PM' post='498073']
@ Todd
Wow! That guitar looks really nice, just like your playing!
But, would the LED's have a cooler effect without the computer lights behind them?
I mean if you turn a few degrees that the LED's are only surrounded by darkness?

I just turned off the main lights and left my coputer stuff on, but yeah, it would show up better with that stuff off. Good call

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 3 2010, 03:30 AM

Love it The intro is almost like a Mario Brothers game then gets really Evil. Well done!

Todd

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 3 2010, 12:03 PM

Excellent Lian - this was perfect, I liked everything about it. The polka melody was spot on. Also The singing will provide a very cool and needed contrast to all the guitar work. Also I love the fact that there is both growling and clean in there - definitely my favorite type of singing! Awesome!

Please send me the guitars-vocals-only file!

PS What lyrics do you sing? (I might have some on screen text in the coming video)



Thanks a lot for your take Ivan - a lot of cool stuff to use here.

I have also got two killer takes from Marius Pop and Ben - I am very excited to get mixing now as we are starting to get a good amount of content!

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 5 2010, 03:31 PM

Hi Kris,
though I am intimidated (like most students, as it looks?) by the killer takes of the instructors I improvised a bit today and shot a video for the whole BT. There are quite a few mistakes, but maybe you can use some of the things I've done. Would be cool for sure!
Christian

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 5 2010, 07:25 PM

Thanks so much for posting this Chris - I think you put your heart into this one and I am quite sure we will use parts of it. Also it was an excellent idea to record rhythm guitars - it's a very natural way to fit even more people in the tune.

So PLEASE PLEASE - if you are a student - give this collab a shot! We don't need flashy stuff just solid melodies or rhythm guitar - anything will do! You don't have anything to loose!

I have started mixing this but I am waiting for Lian's killer track as I think it will play an important role (can't get his melodies out of my head!)

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 6 2010, 01:26 AM

gush!!!! this is beyond awesome! you are an excellent player!

I really enjoyed the take,

so fluid and tasty

nice one!

Loved the syncopation



thanks Mirko! apreciate it!

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 6 2010, 11:34 AM

Yes... I agree with Kris.... students DO please get involved too... it's a brilliant way to give yourself a new challenge and also it reminds us all what guitar playing and music in general is all about - having fun, joining in with other players from different backgrounds/styles, inspiring each other...

Never feel anyone is better than you.. after all, when we all pick up our guitars.. we are all students and we never stop learning whether your name is Steve Vai or Yngwie.. we all have so much to learn and so much further to go !

Amazing playing Ivan, I really enjoyed that.... you've got some crazy left hand ideas and ability.. love it !!

Love it, Lian... you'll definitely bring some attitude to the collab ! Great melodies too :-)

Posted by: MigeZ Sep 6 2010, 06:51 PM

Schoolwork (essays and stuff) are taking all of my free time atm but I'll give it a shot if I have time Kris which parts should I use (the parts not used by other ppl yet or something cuz I can't really compete with masters D) I mean like part 1.25-2.23 (numbers are totally random )

Posted by: Alexiaden93 Sep 6 2010, 07:51 PM

What on Earth have you been eating man ?! Argentinian gunpowder?! That was AWESOME

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 6 2010, 09:59 PM

hehehe, yes it was!

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 7 2010, 01:13 PM

Hey Kris,

I recorded another take today (audio only), I hope you can use parts of it! Looking forward for the final mix.

Christian

Posted by: Jitty Sep 8 2010, 11:03 AM

Well, inspired by Gitarrero's bravery I decided to record a take today. My better guitar is in the shop now and I'm going to get it back soon and record another take with that one, because the guitar I used goes out of tune really easily and I think it went out of tune in the take. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't left out of this one.

I used the ending section in my solo because I haven't heard anybody else use it, but if Kris has a big finale planned I can do a new solo in a different spot, no big deal.

Please give me some feedback so I can change it and do another better take!
 Big_GMC_Collab.mov ( 25.8MB ) : 299

Posted by: Bear Rose Sep 8 2010, 04:29 PM

Gonna take a shot at it sometime soon, I'm hoping.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 9 2010, 12:22 PM

Excellent! One could tell you had a melodic "red thread" through out this take. The only place I felt you were into too deep was at 00:08. The arpeggio idea is really cool - but it's not played convincingly.

Please send me the guitar only file so I can experiment with your take! You can either send it as it is (and I will see if I can find a work around for the 08 spot - ie by cutting in someone else there) or record again.

All in all we should be able to use your take, though! ( But I cant tell 100% until I have got your file though)

TO EVERYONE - WHAT WE NEED:

We need more takes over the polka section. Give it a shot!

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Sep 9 2010, 05:15 PM

wow ivan, looks like you improved your playing a LOT to me, i love your playing man!

Posted by: Jitty Sep 9 2010, 07:05 PM

Thanks Kris for the feedback. Is this take better?
 GMC_Big_Collab_Final.mov ( 24.45MB ) : 190

 GMC_Big_Collab_No_BT.mp3 ( 702.78K ) : 229

Posted by: maharzan Sep 10 2010, 06:35 PM

I have a beginning few seconds composed but yet to be recorded. If its the Polka you are refering to, that would be great. I think you can use it at the later part as well right?

I will tune up my guitar and see if I can post it tomorrow.

Thanks.

Posted by: maharzan Sep 11 2010, 03:59 AM

Okay, I am too throwing my ideas out there.. Let me know if it can make to the finals so I can record it again.

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 11 2010, 02:11 PM

thanks a lot man! liked yours too



I was completely sure that my waws had been uploaded... sorry.

lyrics are totally scientific and tells a deep story about cosmos and astrology.
...
no, kidding!!! I just say:
Can I play guitar on a steroid?
on the moon... even best!

as you can see, as a writer I'm a great guitar player



hahahaha!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 12 2010, 10:14 PM

Ok I have done quite some progress on the mix this evening. My ears and brain are much to tired to post anything now (I think it sounds great right now but there is a risk I wake up tomorrow and think the opposite..!)

I really liked this take, very interesting melody and groove. I will do my best to fit it in - watch this space!

Posted by: maharzan Sep 13 2010, 04:17 AM

Great.. Thanks Kris.

Posted by: Bear Rose Sep 13 2010, 05:27 AM

I hope its not too late for me!

I did a few takes over the backing track and here's my favorite one. I feel like my best stuff is over the polka part, so I hope that you can fit me in as well, Kris. If not, its all good.



PS: I soloed over the majority of the track, so feel free to pick and choose whichever part you like best!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 13 2010, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the files Bear!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 14 2010, 08:46 PM

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 15 2010, 12:29 AM

ok, kris,sould I upload the video here?

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 15 2010, 12:41 AM

some cool ideas in there!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 15 2010, 02:12 AM

These takes have been very cool I think I'm going to try the Polka part again.

Todd

Posted by: maharzan Sep 15 2010, 03:03 AM

Great.. can't wait to hear how the final mix sounds like.. When is it coming?

Posted by: Bear Rose Sep 16 2010, 06:03 PM

Thanks, Daniel! It was definitely a lot different than what I'm used to, so I had to try some new things. Glad you liked it!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 16 2010, 10:14 PM

Ok I have a first draft for you!

A few comments - I think everyone got their spot except for Jitty. Jitty did a good job with his solo and would have made if it hadn't been for the fact that he chose to play over the choruses where we had some really strong takes already - which I prioritized for the sake of the whole tune.

I am a very big fan of Lian's work and would have loved to hear his singing all over the tune - I ended up putting his vocals on the last chorus simply because I wanted Gabriel on the first chorus (to have the shreddiest stuff at the end) and Lian's and Gabriel's stuff didn't blend too well. However you will notice Lian appears in the background on all choruses.

The most popular spot was the stick after the first chorus - and I managed to squeeze everyone in by playing two different takes simultaneously and hard pan them. I think it created a really cool contrast.

Bear will noticed I sliced his take up quite badly! =D Also if there are takes in there you don't recognize it's Ben Higgins at 0:17 and Marius Pop at 02:17 and the last chorus.

I personally think we achieved a fantastic blend of styles in here - and find the tune to be much more than just a guitar show off.

This is just a draft mix so any comments you have got are appreciated. Also I ask you to please start sending me video - preferably as high quality mp4 as possible! I feel that this video will be something truly special and can't wait to get it up at youtube and GMC frontpage.

 big_collab_draft.mp3 ( 5.09MB ) : 305

Posted by: Jitty Sep 16 2010, 10:16 PM

That's too bad I didn't make it. Maybe next time.

Posted by: thefireball Sep 16 2010, 10:20 PM

I'm kinda sorry that I didn't enter. I just never worked with this type of music. It would be hard to improvise over.

Posted by: maharzan Sep 17 2010, 06:24 AM

sounds great!! I m in there too. will post a video soon.

Posted by: Vaidya Sep 17 2010, 08:16 AM

Sounds good.Congrats, everyone

Posted by: Chris Evans Sep 17 2010, 09:06 AM

urgh, no speakers or headphones at work will have to wait till I get home!, looking forward to listening to the first mix

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 17 2010, 09:52 AM

I like it, I can even hear my rhythm take in the background, thanks for that! So what video should we shoot? Just a short one were we play our part?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 17 2010, 09:54 AM

That will work!

Posted by: Chris Evans Sep 17 2010, 05:29 PM

really cool, love all the takes, really excellent, i`ll get to work on some vid

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 17 2010, 09:09 PM

Well done It's got depth and texture and is waaaay out there which is great. I like the hard pan dueling guitar thing. It actually took some practice just to listen to it and let my ears lose focus a bit so I could take it all in at once. It's a dense mix and works really well.

How about the video?

Todd

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 17 2010, 09:38 PM

awesome! love it Kris!

Posted by: maharzan Sep 18 2010, 07:02 AM

Here is mine..

For those who like to check online and doesn't have quicktime.



Thanks for checking.

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 18 2010, 05:33 PM

amazing takes! I hadn't heard some in there

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 18 2010, 06:07 PM

Here is my video, got a special guest in it...



And here is the downloadable file (no sound in this one):

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 19 2010, 04:00 AM

Here is my vid that I shot when I recorded. I'd shut the lights off to show my Fretlights. It's a quictime .mp4 file. But I can convert the source to anything needed.

 Big_Collab_Todd_Take_1.mp4 ( 7.4MB ) : 152


Todd

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 19 2010, 10:01 AM

This is shaping up great....!!! Some crazy stuff in there... looking forward to the final video

Posted by: maharzan Sep 19 2010, 11:17 AM

me tooo.. I m excited to be in the first video collab.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 19 2010, 11:45 AM

Thanks for all the vids - when I have them all I will start working on the final collab video.

Also please let me know if you have got any comments on the mix. I already sense I need to adjust some levels here and there -so hopefully you can expect the final mix to be a lot better.

Posted by: maharzan Sep 19 2010, 12:35 PM

Overall it sounds awesome. The start is bashing and creates the excitement to want to listen to.. I kind of thought the mid section (where the polka part is) was missing something. It felt a bit empty compared to what started out (heavy distortion and solos). and it seemed to have been prolonged (many of those slow (non heavy) takes made it to this space) so probably didn't blend well together for a overall song or kind of pushed brakes in there? Just my thought.

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 19 2010, 01:00 PM

Hi Kris,
I think the overall mix sounds great. Just had the impression that my rhythm take in the polka part has a very low volume. It's perfectly normal that the solo that is played over it is louder, but maybe you can raise the volume just a little...

Posted by: TylerT Sep 19 2010, 10:58 PM

Here is my take!!

Hope im not too late! Its sounding great so far!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 20 2010, 04:03 AM

uh dude!

loved it!

lots of attitude and agressive playing! and you took your risks too

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 20 2010, 10:14 AM

Excellent stuff there, Tyler !!!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 20 2010, 02:18 PM

Great playing TylerT!!!

Posted by: thefireball Sep 20 2010, 03:43 PM

If there's still time, I might enter.

Posted by: Bear Rose Sep 20 2010, 10:41 PM

Here's my video file. I included the whole thing because I couldn't tell exactly where all the parts you used were.

 Big_GMC_Collab_Bear_Video.mp4 ( 68.25MB ) : 161

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 23 2010, 05:24 AM

wou! Amazing mix of styles! Everybody did an awesome job and Kris... you really worked hard! Can't wait to see the full video!!
I'll be sending my video as soon as possible!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 23 2010, 10:33 AM

Oh my It's a shame you didn't submit it earlier - the take rocks! Unfortunately the collab is closed - but there will be a new one after this one so no worries.

Posted by: TylerT Sep 24 2010, 06:29 AM

Count me in man!!

Posted by: thefireball Sep 25 2010, 02:21 AM

Well, i'm glad there will be another one. I don't know how to handle polkas. Can't wait to see it though!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 27 2010, 02:48 PM

hehe love the mouse! (I hope it was intentional)

If I am not mistaken we are waiting for Chris Evans' and Ben Higgins' videos - when I have got those I will start video editing as soon as I get some free time!

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 28 2010, 07:32 PM

Haha! Actually, it's a dwarf hamster (see, no long tail, looks liek a miniature bear), his name is Homer and yes, it was intentional. He's always really curious and my guitar always catches his interest (as you can see).

Posted by: maharzan Sep 29 2010, 01:03 PM

common.. bring it fast guys... I can't wait to see the final version..

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 29 2010, 01:20 PM

Don't worry, my friend.. Kris recieved my vid last night so soon we shall see a mega vid !!!

Posted by: Bear Rose Sep 29 2010, 06:18 PM

I can't wait to see it!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Sep 29 2010, 08:09 PM

c'mon!!!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Sep 30 2010, 11:32 AM

This is one breathtaking collab judging from the mix and takes I heard so far! Can't wait to see it edited - will be a guitar show off blast

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 30 2010, 05:24 PM

me cannot wait either

Posted by: Chris Evans Sep 30 2010, 09:49 PM

Hi Kris, sorry for the delay in getting this vid posted.

Had a lot of problems with sync/quality etc!! I ended up having to do it in .wmv to get some quality at least, was totally unable to sync the backing to it but did record a single guitar audio at the same time so you will be able to sync with the main backing.

I need another new vid camera!!!!! argh!

 Movie_0001.wmv ( 975.09K ) : 145

Posted by: maharzan Oct 7 2010, 02:00 AM

I know I am an impatient man.. knock knock!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 7 2010, 01:59 PM

I don't blame you

The current status is that I have improved the audio mix working with levels and eq - there was lots of low ends buzzying things up.

I have started synchronizing/aligning the videos and encountered some problems in the cases I had to use flv files, but nothing unsolvable!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 7 2010, 02:25 PM

awesome!!!

Posted by: thefireball Oct 8 2010, 02:45 AM

Can't wait to hear it!

Posted by: maharzan Oct 8 2010, 08:48 AM

Thats great Kris.. really looking forward to the final mix.

Posted by: Ben Higgins Oct 9 2010, 08:44 AM

Absolutely.. can't wait to hear and see this !!

Posted by: Fran Oct 10 2010, 01:16 PM

Can't wait either, it will be a blast

Posted by: thefireball Oct 10 2010, 10:09 PM

Really enjoyed that first draft of the mix! can't wait!!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 11 2010, 01:49 AM

Also looking forward to the video

Todd

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Oct 12 2010, 12:53 AM

same here! Anxiously waiting!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 19 2010, 12:57 PM

....and as can be seen on the GMC frontpage - we are now live!! Fantastic work guys (more praising http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=36953)

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Oct 19 2010, 01:50 PM

wow!! excellent job at the editing board!! Great to see this finally! Thanks for that spot!

Posted by: Ben Higgins Oct 19 2010, 02:57 PM

WOO-HOO ! Great job Kris.... and well done everybody... it ROCKS. BIG TIME !

Posted by: Vaidya Oct 19 2010, 04:43 PM

OMG!!! That was soo awesome! Kick-ass playing from everybody!

Posted by: flamen Nov 1 2010, 05:30 AM

awesome colab! i just renewed my account due to this video! reminded me how awesome this site is. It's been a while, over 2 years since i was on here, and 2 years ago i was a beginner on guitar so now i think i'll take alot more from the lessons

Posted by: superize Nov 1 2010, 07:33 AM

Welcome back man

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 1 2010, 11:20 AM

Hehe good to hear - I hope to see you in the next one!

Posted by: flamen Nov 1 2010, 03:05 PM

thx superize!

thx, would be awesome if i got in one eventually.. time to practice

Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 2 2010, 03:09 AM

Can't wait for the next one I think I might not play in the dark next time.

Todd

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 2 2010, 09:56 AM

No you are going to see the light next time!