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Posted by: MickeM Jan 15 2009, 01:55 PM

Red ring of death or whatever it's called. I had it before, more than a year ago, and yesterday I think out 2 yr old gave the box a hard push or something... at least his older brothers blame him.
Now there are three out or four blinking, but the unit works fine. Games play fine, it loads from the HD and everything seem to work. But still it's blinking.

I have a vague memory of that this blinking can be reset, that it's indicating something was wrong but isn't neccessarily anymore.

So, does anyone know if it can be reset?

I googled and found that unplugging everything and then starting up should be fine but not for my box it isn't. It's still blinking. And as far as I understand three blinking lights should also render the Xbox unplayable, which mine isn't.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 15 2009, 02:02 PM

That's why I bought a PS3. They designed it to work

But I hope you get it fixed. Unfortunately I know my friends in total have been through 25 XBox 360s (About 30 people) and my mates with PS3s still have their machines running strong

It's because they use cheap parts but there should be a way to reset the blinking.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 15 2009, 02:43 PM

Did you turn the 360 off for an hour before putting back on as it may be an overheating issue?

Posted by: MickeM Jan 15 2009, 02:47 PM

Yeah it was off overnight.

If this (my second) Xbox crashes on me I'm buying a PS3 since MS warranty for red ring faults isn't valid anymore.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 15 2009, 02:50 PM

It's normally one of two things with the 360. The first is overheating because of cheap parts and the second is because of the cheap parts heating up they expand and can become dislodged partly so the internal components need fixing. But if it was knocked something inside could have become dislodged but they are really easy to break. It's all well and good them charging a lot less than PS3 but they have to use cheap components whereas Sony actually loses money on every PS3 they sell but the components are of high quality.

Don't buy a PS3 just yet though as they are about to drop the price to $200 supposedly or around about there. But seriously lots of my mates 360s have broke and they have swapped. It's a great console but badly put together.

Posted by: superize Jan 15 2009, 02:58 PM

I also am having problems with my xbox.....

one day when i was playing the game freezed and i had to restart the xbox but it just keept doing it again and agin and agin.....

Yesterday whe i started it it never started and i got the red ring on my consule.......

Dont know either what is wrong

Posted by: Enucleation Jan 15 2009, 03:23 PM

I had it recently. If it is 3 lights then you can send it off and they will fix it for free, any more or less than 3 and you have to pay unless you are still under warranty.

Check the xbox website, I guess.

Posted by: MickeM Jan 15 2009, 03:45 PM

Exactly that happened the first time my broke. It froze a few times for a few days then the red ring.

MS sent UPS to pick it up and sent it to germany for repair. Mine was beyond that appearantly since they sent me a new one.
Call MS to see if their warranty is still valid!! Now your 1 year warranty but they had one before so they repaired all broken 360's at no cost for the customer and no matter if you had warranty or not. I think they took that away though but it can't hurt to ask them.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 15 2009, 03:50 PM

They stopped it I think. That's why I stay away from them because they just break too easily. I hope you get it sorted anyway.

Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 15 2009, 04:05 PM

The old ones break too easily, If you get one now you should be completely in the clear and Ok, Or if you repair it should never happen again. But the PS3 is abuilt like a german Panzer tank, thing is a beast, I love it

Posted by: Marc_Maiden Jan 15 2009, 05:28 PM

i had an old 360, sent it in, they replaced with the new gen 360 parts so it doesnt have any problems...call microsoft and see if they will let you send it in again...

usually microsoft is good about these kind of things..


id never trade in my 360 for a ps3....just not worth it for me

Posted by: helo92 Feb 12 2009, 02:43 PM

some old ones have this problem

but if your box isn't older than 3 years replacing shouldn't be a problem

my brother had the ring 2 times but they fixed it within a week

same for me

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 12 2009, 02:51 PM

That's why your missing out on the best console available. Not just for games but for Blu Ray films also. It is by far the best console for games just on PS3 and for it's technological brilliance. I wish people weren't so tight on things and not buy a PS3 because it costs a lot. It costs a lot because it contains a hell of a lot of technology that XBox 360 and Wii just can't compare with.

But I have my PS3 so I'm happy. I just think people are missing out on high quality entertainment with not having a PS3.

Posted by: MickeM Feb 12 2009, 03:21 PM

I had the first batch of 360's that came to Sweden, that one had the red ring of death and died for real, the display froze. MS sent UPS to pick it up and it was sent for repair. But instead of fixing it they send me a new one as replacement. Made in 2007 I think it says in the back.
So it's a fairly new one, but the strange things is I can still play like normal while the three red lamps are flashing. I stopped caring.

Posted by: helo92 Feb 12 2009, 03:40 PM

360 got better games and the games both consoles have are often weaker in graphics at the ps3

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 12 2009, 03:55 PM

I have had both systems and ended with with a PS3. IMO the best system out there.
Maybe its becaue I only paid $200 bucks for my 60gig PS3.

Just my $.02.

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Feb 12 2009, 03:59 PM

Xbox360>PS3 anyday for me.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 12 2009, 04:01 PM

The graphics blow the XBox 360 out of the water. The best console game for graphics is Metal Gear Solid IV. I'm not a huge Metal Gear fan but that is the only game on a console that blows your mind graphics wise and comes close to Crysis with graphical supremacy. 360 doesn't have better games. What games does it have that are better than Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Metal Gear Solid IV, LittleBigPlanet. It can't compete hence why they have to make sure they charge nothing for the console.

The PS3 is a graphical beast. The X Box 360 isn't as powerful. I think I read somewhere that the PS3 hasn't been ran to even 60% of its graphical capability yet so expect some stunning games this year on the PS3 Gran Turismo 5, God Of War new game, Uncharted 2 I can't wait. What has XBox 360 got? Nothing

Posted by: Moon Boots Feb 12 2009, 04:01 PM

This is true. As making games for the ps3 is very difficult a lot of companies design the games for the 360 and then port them over to the ps3 - this results in the ps3 having lower quality and often glitchy games.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 12 2009, 04:03 PM

For what reason do you believe that?

PS3 is better even if you just consider the fact it has a Blu Ray player which costs close to as much as a PS3 normally anyway.

Posted by: Moon Boots Feb 12 2009, 04:08 PM

Not true - you are vastly exaggerating the differences in the graphics (and sounding like a fanboy ).

When comparing the graphics of a game that is on both consoles the graphics are quite evenly matched except that the 360 games graphics are normally a tiny bit better due to not having been ported over. The difference is negligible. It doesn't make a difference that the ps3 has extra power because developers can't utilise it.

And which console has the best games is entirely down to opinion.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 12 2009, 04:17 PM

I wouldn't agree on the graphics but it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically. Like Motorstorm: Pacific Rift especially and MGS IV. I don't know of any XBox 360 games that are particularly worth playing and that is my opinion but I think the reason not as many people buy a PS3 is solely down to the price.

I know one thing that would switch it around and I've been waiting years for it. Sony and Square Enix have a virtual blank cheque if they release what everyone wants and that's Final Fantasy VII remade for the PS3 like that tech demo long ago. I think it will happen and if they package PS3's with FFVII they'd fly off the shelves.

I dislike the XBox 360 as I really thing the system is rubbish. It's cheaply put together and breaks far too easily and it doesn't have a Blu Ray player. It doesn't have any games solely on XBox 360 that I want to play and I just don't like it. I am a fan of Sony and I think the PS3 is a brilliant console. That isn't just because I love Sony it's because I genuinely think what they have created is a piece of technological brilliance. I don't think the 360 can be compared to that and it only sells well because like I said it's very cheap but cheaply made and also it came out 12 months before the PS3. I think this is the year for the PS3 with God Of War, Killzone and Gran Turismo getting new releases. And if Final Fantasy VII does happen then it'd be huge.

Posted by: Moon Boots Feb 12 2009, 04:35 PM

Sigh. Well, http://www.joystiq.com/2009/01/01/joystiqs-top-10-of-2008-left-4-dead/ list of `top 10 games from 2008` has 2 of the top 3 games as 360 games. I think that the 360 has better games - but this isn't important as depending on your personal opinion either could have better games.

A quick google search reveals http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6191251/index.html. As you can see there is very little difference graphically. The 360 pics have slightly more detail if anything. The difference is minimal.



Well, this sums it up. Don't make outlandish statements like `it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically` just because you like one of the companies more than the other. Its bizarre and is unhelpful to those who may be reading this thread to help them decide which console to buy.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 12 2009, 04:42 PM

Graphic Tests that companies have done bring PS3 out on top. Not games websites but actual technology recording sites. Plus that list of top games is awful lol. Fable 2 is an awful game and a hell of a lot worse than the first. I would actually like to play Left 4 Dead but I wouldn't buy a 360 just for that.

The graphical power of the PS3 is more than the 360. That is FACT. It isn't me saying that. But graphics aren't everything. Gameplay is more important and I still think the PS3 wins. I'm just trying to make people see past the cheap price of the 360 and show that if you spend the extra cash you get a lot better machine.

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Feb 12 2009, 04:55 PM

For one, I could care less about the quality of my movies considering the fact that my T.V is Hi-def, and I do admit to PS3 having better graphics. But online wise, everyone is on Xbox360. New games that just hit the scene, hit it first on Xbox 360. People who have technical problems with the 360 ( Such as myself) find themselves getting everything repaired with ease and now it appears that there are hardly anymore frequently occuring problems with most Xbox users. I mainly play Xbox360 for the online experience. Ps3 doesnt come close to comparing with it. I know many people that have an Xbox360 and a Ps3 and they choose the Xbox over the Ps3 not for graphics, but for online play. Thats what I'm after.

Posted by: Moon Boots Feb 12 2009, 04:57 PM

Yes, the hardware is on top but the hardware itself isn't what you play - you play the games. And the games are on an equal footing with the 360.



I thought fable 2 was fantastic - it comes down to opinion.



The graphical power means nothing unless developers can use it - and so far - they haven't been able to. Maybe they will in the future, but at the moment they haven't. It could be a million times more powerful than the 360 but if developers can't use the power then it makes no difference.



Its just opinion!!! - it just comes down to opinion.



Thats great, but I think the best way to do that is to be objective and honest about the differences rather than just pandering to one side and warping the truth to fit your own views.

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Feb 12 2009, 06:31 PM

Clearly someone in here needs to Organize their Confusion.

All your doing is stating your opinion, one that I believe is wrong.
Yes, we get it. PS3 has great graphics. Yes , we get it. Your a huge Sony fan and if Sony was a girl you would marry her solely based on her appearence (graphics).

But saying things like " Fable 2 is an awful game and is a hell of alot worse then the first ",
Is just making you look bad.

Saying one console is better then another is dumb. Its all based on personal taste, maybe if you spent a little more time with an Xbox360, you might appreciate it a little more then just being a 100% Sony Addict.

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 12 2009, 06:52 PM

The great debate lives on even here at GMC.

If I had a nickel for everytime I have heard this argument......

Posted by: Marc_Maiden Feb 13 2009, 06:36 PM

PS3 has a watered down blue ray player, not as nice as an external one you can buy.


the PS3 CAN have better graphics than an xbox 360, however, no body has made a game yet that harnesses the PS3's power so for now, the 360 is ahead (dont believe me, check gamespot.com 's ps3/xbox graphic comparisions)

360 right is squeezing out more juice these days, and its gonna get crazy when the halo 3 expansion comes out and the new battlefield games as well!!

Posted by: Joruus Feb 16 2009, 09:38 PM

And the laser of the blue ray has high chance of breaking just after warenty expires (1 year)
Wich Sony can repair for you if you pay them 200€
(atleast that was the case here in the Netherlands, i don't know if their service is like that everywhere:P)