Another 2 Mass Shootings In One Weekend |
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Aug 5 2019, 12:07 AM
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Yup, another mass shooting in Ohio less than a day later. More people dead and wounded. No info on the shooter yet. This is truly getting epidemic. I hope we can get through the weekend without another mass killling.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-oh...oter/index.html QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 4 2019, 05:06 PM)  you forgot the one in Ohio
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Aug 5 2019, 12:29 AM
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Does the TV ever give info on such reasoning/psychology of these murderers? I wonder if its actually a form of suicide...
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Aug 5 2019, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Aug 5 2019, 04:38 PM) ... I can't recall an incident where shooters weren't connected to a terrorist or some kind of evil organization. I made a search about the Ohio weapon; https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/...=410&crop=1 Magazines seem custom (but likely sold 3.rd party product). It doesn't seem like a hunting weapon, if not also for war then what's the purpose? but as said the weapon is only a part of the story, I watched some USA channels and all they argue are guns and Trumps politics. I think it should be handled deeper than that. This post has been edited by Mertay: Aug 5 2019, 06:12 PM |
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Aug 5 2019, 06:12 PM
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he last two shootings were both done with assault style rifles. The majority of our mass killings here have all been done with assault style rifles. It's true the majority of "crimes' are with hand guns. However, the majority of MASS SHOOTINGS are in fact done with assault style rifles with large capacity magazines. "assault style" weapons, meaning they look like AR15 or AK47 rifles but are not fully automatic. Still, with high capacity magazines, we see high death rates just like we saw this weekend.
Here is a timeline of all the shootings this year. Notice that most of them were done with "assault style" rifles. It's a long list. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/...-mass-shootings Sure, shootings happen all over the world, but mass shootings that happen pretty much year around not in a war zone? That is pure USA baby. We lead the world in mass shootings by a HUGE margin. Just sharing the fact here. This is a chart up to before Trump hit the white house.  So yeah, we have way way way way more mass shootings than all of the rest of the world combined. It's an epidemic. The most concerning thing is that we are having more and more each year. Here is a chart to show the alarming trend.  Mass Shootings are something of a tradition here. They happen all the time. All year round. They have been happening more since we got our new president. Not saying there is a direct correlation, just saying, it's gone up. Sadly, these are not going to stop as we have no way to stop them. Al we can do is try to be careful when in a public place and grieve when the next one happens. QUOTE (AK Rich @ Aug 5 2019, 12:38 PM) Mass shootings happen all over the world, not just in the USA. The vast majority of gun crimes committed in the US are committed with Pistols/Handguns. The Rifles that have been used in mass shootings in the US are more like hunting rifles than they are weapons of war. They are not automatic weapons but semi automatic, meaning that a pull of the trigger only produces one shot, like a hunting rifle, not multiple shots like weapons of war which are fully automatic or select fire. The weapons claimed to be "Assault Rifles" are not actually assault rifles or weapons of war at all. They only resemble assault rifles in appearance and do not function like a weapon of war. you are correct. That is NOT a hunting rifle. These attacks are mostly done with "assault style" rifles that are semi automatic (one trigger pull one bullet) versions of MILITARY WEAPONS. QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 5 2019, 01:08 PM) I can't recall an incident where shooters weren't connected to a terrorist or some kind of evil organization.
I made a search about the Ohio weapon; https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/...=410&crop=1 Magazines seem custom (but likely sold 3.rd party product). It doesn't seem like a hunting weapon, if not also for war then what's the purpose? This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Aug 5 2019, 07:28 PM |
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Aug 5 2019, 07:32 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and state that white supremacy and xenophobia are not "mental illness".
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Aug 5 2019, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 5 2019, 06:12 PM) Here is a timeline of all the shootings this year. Notice that most of them were done with "assault style" rifles. It's a long list. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/...-mass-shootings you are correct. That is NOT a hunting rifle. that link you have only mentioned 9 out of 18 that had an AR( too many , of course ) , so most is a slight exaggeration . In these stories , there were right wing , Muslim and socialists - this is a mental issue , to put blame on One Ideology is to do it injustice. And it is a hunting rifle but I am not going to put a feral hog hunting with AR link It is also one of the best defensive weapons for a woman because it is easy to control as Mertay pointed out FBI statistics state that there are 500,000 to 3 million defensive uses with fire arms every year QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 5 2019, 10:21 PM) Thanks for the explanation, what does the pro-gun side of USA offer as solution? it is a constitutional right that government can't take away , and it is put in to keep a tyrannical government away "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Every tyrannical government started with gun confiscation In the Us ,the government should fear the governed not the other way around FBI stats state 500,000 to 3 million people protect them selves with guns every year there are 32,000 gun deaths every year 2/3 are suicide 8000 are gang on gang , the left over number out of 330 million people is very small percentage , of course I don't want to see any deaths , but IMO to start stripping away our freedoms our founding fathers fight and died for does not make sense to me |
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Aug 6 2019, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 5 2019, 10:57 PM) I didn't mean for gun rights (I know its hot debate though), I mean about these kinds of crimes to prevent them. well..many of the laws we have are not followed, in the case nicholas cruz , this is a short from this link, there was also a policy with broward county sheriff to not arrest school kids to keep crime rates low "Authorities agreed to treat twelve different misdemeanor offenses as school-related issues, not criminal ones. The results impressed the people who initiated the program. Arrests dropped from more than a thousand in 2011-2012 to less than four hundred just four years later." https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/20...dent_lives.html Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/20...l#ixzz5vlwcoheb Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/...lly-ill/553487/ Florida.BROWARD COUNTY SHERIFF / REUTERS In the years before 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz allegedly killed 17 people in a Florida high school on Wednesday, his behavior was strange, but not necessarily criminal. And not necessarily suggestive of a specific mental illness, either. He seemed fixated on guns and on killing animals, and his mother would sometimes call the police on him in an effort to manage his behavior. Some news reports have also said that Cruz has been “in and out of mental-health treatment,” though his diagnosis is not clear. This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Aug 6 2019, 12:29 AM |
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