Just For The Curious, chord scales
Saoirse O'Shea
Aug 9 2007, 09:23 AM
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I was in two minds whether or not to post this link in Andrew's Theory board and thread and finally decided not to as I didn't want to confuse. However I do think that what AH has to say, particularly about viewing a chord as part of a scale/family of notes is interesting and fits well with everything that Andrew has said in the theory section so far.

Couple of minor bits: this is pretty advanced stuff (to me anyway); note the position of AH's left hand thumb - I've been playing these extended and closed and open piano voiced chords for some time and I find most impossible to play with thumb wrapped around the neck; note the use of stacked triads and inversions; note also the use of scale notes in arpeggiated (that a word?) runs.

Final bit - harmony - some might find some of what AH does a bit dissonant. That, arguably, though is because most of us have a less developed/more restricted sense of harmony. It becomes less dissonant and more musical as we get more used to listening to less traditional western musical. This becomes really interesting if we then start talking about 'inside' vs 'outside' playing. In an advanced harmonically rich sense there is arguably no 'outside' playing. I'd suggest that a phrase only sounds 'outside' because we are not used to hearing the musical development used. That's not the same as saying that any note will do - it won't - it's about progression and resolution. Nonetheless 'outside' is a good term to encapsulate this as we play outside the root scale only to resolve back to it and recentre. Note - in Walliman's great video lesson on this site about 'outside' a key phrase /point (perhaps THE key) is the need to resolve back to root/tonic or a major tonal centre. Without doing that we can easily lose track of where the progression is headed. BTW someone once made the point that you can only really start to play 'outside' well once you really have a good understanding of 'inside' - again why Andrew's theory lessons are so good.

Apologies I've rambled on a bit. Here's the link: Holdsworth - chord scales

Cheers,
Tony

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Aug 9 2007, 01:23 PM
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