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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 23 2015, 09:29 PM

Hey friends! Welcome to my new collab!

This one is based on a Punk Rock backing track taken from my new http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/20-Punk-Bands-In-one-song/.

If you listen to the backing, you'll identify 3 parts from the lesson (DieToten Hosen, Rise Against and Social Distortion) You can go to those parts in the lesson to learn the chords and rhythm.

 Punk_Collab_Backing.mp3 ( 1.17MB ) : 293



You can record solos over the whole backing or you can choose one part and solo over it. The same goes for the vocals, you can create lyrics and vocal lines for the part that you like more.


Tempo: 90 bpm


Guitar Solos:

If you are planning to solo over this one, you can use G major over the first (Die Toten Hosen), A minor (Rise Against) over the second one and G major over the third one (Social Distortion). You can use also use the Pentatonic scales.

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


Vocals:

Everybody is invited to record vocals and write lyrics.


Files:

You can share audio files for the audio mix and also a video or picture for the final video.


Deadline: January 10th


Who is in?



FINAL VIDEO & COMMENTS:

Ok friends! This is the final video for this amazing collab!!



I’m really glad with the final results of this one so thanks everybody who joined this one and specially Gitarrero for writing lyrics and singing vocals for this one.

Participants:

Gabriel Leopardi – Rhythm Guitar & Vocals
Gitarrero – Vocals & Guitar arrangements
Trigger - Lead Guitar & arrangements
MossRoller – Lead Guitar
Phil66 – Guitar melodies in verse
Kristofer Dahl – Epic Guitar Solo
Procyon – Second Epic Solo
Tflava - More Guitar epicness!
Todd – Classic Metal Guitar Solo
Chris GLP – Punky Solo



Some extra comments:

Gitarrero: You have composed really tasty vocal melodies and lyrics for this one. I think that it’s time to form your punk band and tour with Die Toten Hosen! Your guitar track is also epic and could be full used if this weren’t a collab with many players. By the way, I noticed that the verse riff fits great in the mix. Keep rocking!

Trigger76: Your solo is very tasty. I love how your tone fits with the backing. I think that the use of wah wah and the guitar harmonics are killer choices. Everything is perfectly played so you rock mate. Congrats!

MossRoller: Your phrasing is very tasteful, I enjoy listening to your hole solo over and over. Except by some little sections where lines direction is not totally defined, the overall is killer! Thanks for the cool looking video!

Phil66: I’m glad that you’ve decided to join this one! It’s a pity that I didn’t receive a video from you but your name is shown on screen. It’s not easy to add a guitar solo when vocals are sounding, but in this case, your solo fit great! Thanks mate!

Procyon: Your solo is really cool and could be an instrumental song by itself. You managed really well structure and have a very Satch feel. Well done!

Tflava: You are a very hard worker student and I’m glad to find that your playing is becoming very musical. There are things to clean in your solo, and technique to adjust but the idea is clear and cool to hear. Keep working!

Chris GLP: Killer solo, perfect technique and Gibson Les Paul warmness. Your solo is very enjoyable and fits really well with the style. Thanks for your entry!

Bleez: As I've said via PM, there was something wrong with the scale choices for your solo so I couldn't make it fit. I'm sorry about it!

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 23 2015, 10:28 PM

I'll have a go, it sounds tricky with all the changes but I'll try smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 23 2015, 11:15 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 23 2015, 06:28 PM) *
I'll have a go, it sounds tricky with all the changes but I'll try smile.gif



Don't worry about changes, you can jam over the first section in E minor if you are not comfortable with changes.

Posted by: WeePee Dec 23 2015, 11:21 PM

Oh, yes. I'm in smile.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Dec 23 2015, 11:23 PM

let try the punk attitude !!!

Laurent

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 24 2015, 08:22 AM

You had me at E MINOR!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 24 2015, 10:51 AM

IN!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: bleez Dec 24 2015, 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Dec 24 2015, 07:22 AM) *
You had me at E MINOR!

LOL! works for me as well!
IN cool.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 24 2015, 01:50 PM

Awesome guys!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: tflava Dec 24 2015, 04:54 PM

I'm also in this time!.

This time i wont be too late smile.gif


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 24 2015, 06:00 PM

QUOTE (tflava @ Dec 24 2015, 12:54 PM) *
I'm also in this time!.

This time i wont be too late smile.gif



Great mate! You're welcome! smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Dec 24 2015, 09:31 PM

Yep!! I should be able to get something done!!

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 24 2015, 10:12 PM

Struggling, waiting for others to post to get some inspiration laugh.gif

Posted by: MossRoller Dec 25 2015, 06:04 PM

Hi, Well I'll give this a shot. I patched together a few rough guitar takes.
Not sure if this very punkish though.

 PunkCollabGMC_Moss_Take1.mp3 ( 929.13K ) : 188

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 26 2015, 08:04 PM

QUOTE (MossRoller @ Dec 25 2015, 02:04 PM) *
Hi, Well I'll give this a shot. I patched together a few rough guitar takes.
Not sure if this very punkish though.

 PunkCollabGMC_Moss_Take1.mp3 ( 929.13K ) : 188



Hi mate! Thanks for your take! I like what you've done over each section! There are many cool ideas that will help me to build a great song. The only parts that shows little issues are the connection between parts where you keep a note which doesn't fit good with the new part starting, but this is not a problem because I'm going to combine this with other takes.

If this is your final take please remember to share the only guitar file.

Posted by: tflava Dec 26 2015, 08:18 PM

Hello Guys,

Here a first shot.
Just some ideas. Maybe you have some advice?

Thanks already.

greetz Tim[attachment=43703:punk_colab.wav]

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 26 2015, 11:35 PM

Hi Tim, thanks for your recording!

Your takes over part 1 and 2 sounds better to me. The first one (over Die Toten Hosen) could be improved by targeting more chord notes. You are playing a very melodic idea so most of the notes are long. I recommend you to re-check them and see which ones could be switched by a chord note which will make your solo more connected with the backing. I suggest doing this exercise: Choose the note that you like less from the solo and change it for a third of the chord that is sounding. Then tell me if you feel it improves it.

The solo over the second part starts ok, but then the ideas are not clear, you need to re-work the following phrases. Try simpler stuff.


Posted by: MossRoller Dec 28 2015, 05:33 AM

Hi everyone,
Well I still needed to record a video, so I tried to fix those ugly notes on this take.

That red Rec light and trying to play standing up... sad.gif
Would you like the 'guitar only' files from both takes or is the one from this video fine?

I found out it's really important to light up that green screen...

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 28 2015, 01:58 PM

Lots of tasty melodies and a really cool looking video! You rock mate. Thanks a lot! smile.gif

Please share the guitar only file from the video take.

Anybody else working on this one? Any lyrics or vocal ideas?


Posted by: Phil66 Dec 28 2015, 07:53 PM

Much harder than I anticipated to come up with ideas. I think it's harder for me with fast paced backing. Also this time of year messes with routines and schedules sad.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 29 2015, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 28 2015, 03:53 PM) *
Much harder than I anticipated to come up with ideas. I think it's harder for me with fast paced backing. Also this time of year messes with routines and schedules sad.gif

Cheers



You have a message at the mentoring thread. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 29 2015, 02:07 PM

Thanks Gab,
I've replied wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 29 2015, 04:09 PM

Me too. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 29 2015, 05:30 PM

And me laugh.gif

Posted by: Procyon Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM

This backing sounds awesome! I think I'm in too - here is something like my first idea...

 punkCollab___Procyon.wav ( 8.75MB ) : 114
 

Posted by: Trigger76 Dec 30 2015, 02:40 PM

[quote name='MossRoller' post='724724' date='Dec 28 2015, 04:33 AM']Hi everyone,
Well I still needed to record a video, so I tried to fix those ugly notes on this take.

That red Rec light and trying to play standing up... sad.gif
Would you like the 'guitar only' files from both takes or is the one from this video fine?

I found out it's really important to light up that green screen...


Good job Moss really like the melodies you've put together, some of it reminded me of Vai type note selection.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 30 2015, 03:11 PM

QUOTE (Procyon @ Dec 29 2015, 01:57 PM) *
This backing sounds awesome! I think I'm in too - here is something like my first idea...



Hi Procyon!! This solo sounds really good! Your phrasing is very tasty on this one! I'm happy to find your take for this collab here. Thanks for joining mate.

Remember to share the only guitar file.



QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Dec 30 2015, 10:40 AM) *
Good job Moss really like the melodies you've put together, some of it reminded me of Vai type note selection.



Hi friend! Welcome to the forum! Great to find your comment here. Are you planning to join this collab? You're invited!

Posted by: Trigger76 Dec 30 2015, 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 30 2015, 02:11 PM) *
Hi Procyon!! This solo sounds really good! Your phrasing is very tasty on this one! I'm happy to find your take for this collab here. Thanks for joining mate.

Remember to share the only guitar file.






Hi friend! Welcome to the forum! Great to find your comment here. Are you planning to join this collab? You're invited!


Thanks for the welcome :-) I'll pop a track down for sure, just joined the site, it's a great site love how it's all structured, nice to see an active forum too.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 31 2015, 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Dec 30 2015, 01:19 PM) *
Thanks for the welcome :-) I'll pop a track down for sure, just joined the site, it's a great site love how it's all structured, nice to see an active forum too.



Great to read this! Enjoy GMC and let me know if you need any guidance withy our practice.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 2 2016, 04:39 PM

8 days friends! smile.gif

Posted by: Procyon Jan 2 2016, 10:01 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 30 2015, 04:11 PM) *
Hi Procyon!! This solo sounds really good! Your phrasing is very tasty on this one! I'm happy to find your take for this collab here. Thanks for joining mate.

Remember to share the only guitar file.


Thank you, Gab!
Yes, of course I will post the guitar only track - but I want to polish my solo a little bit before. Maybe I will be able to record a video, too.

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 3 2016, 12:42 PM

QUOTE (Procyon @ Dec 29 2015, 04:57 PM) *
This backing sounds awesome! I think I'm in too - here is something like my first idea...


nice job \m/

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 3 2016, 07:17 PM

My knowledge of punk is fairly limited, this is my first quick stab at it, admittedly it sounds like the love child of Green Day and Blink182 ;-0



 Rough_Punk_Idea.mp3 ( 1.59MB ) : 94
 

Posted by: Procyon Jan 3 2016, 10:32 PM

So here are the final files... still not as perfect as it should be, but I had to do it now because I will have only little time for guitar playing in the near future mad.gif

I tried to create some sort oft punkish video... ?! laugh.gif




@Trigger76: hey, that's great stuff - go ahead!

 punkCollabProcyonFinal.wav ( 8.75MB ) : 99
 punkCollabSoloProcyon.wav ( 8.59MB ) : 86
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 4 2016, 04:37 AM

QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Jan 3 2016, 03:17 PM) *
My knowledge of punk is fairly limited, this is my first quick stab at it, admittedly it sounds like the love child of Green Day and Blink182 ;-0



Hey mate! This is great! It sounds VERY punk. It's simple, catchy and melodic as the great bands would do it. You can polish your playing a little more but it's not totally necessary for this collab. I'll wait for your guitar only take and maybe a video?


QUOTE (Procyon @ Jan 3 2016, 06:32 PM) *
So here are the final files... still not as perfect as it should be, but I had to do it now because I will have only little time for guitar playing in the near future mad.gif

I tried to create some sort oft punkish video... ?! laugh.gif




@Trigger76: hey, that's great stuff - go ahead!



You rock mate, thanks a lot for your effort. This is great. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 5 2016, 01:33 PM

5 days to go friends! We still need more solos, lyrics and vocals!!

Who else is in?

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 5 2016, 01:36 PM

I keep trying but nothing sounds punk enough to me.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 5 2016, 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:36 AM) *
I keep trying but nothing sounds punk enough to me.



I'd like to hear. It doesn't need to sound punk, it should sound just cool.

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 6 2016, 03:10 PM

Hi Gab, I have also tried to play something to the second part of the track... I have made my own solo so "difficult" for me that I am at the absolute limit... laugh.gif laugh.gif

 Punk_Collab_1.mp3 ( 647.75K ) : 88
 

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 6 2016, 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 23 2015, 10:29 PM) *
Tempo: 80 bpm


Fyi I don't think this is correct, it should be 90 bpm.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 6 2016, 05:43 PM

Totally right Kris, it's now fixed. It's 90 / 180 bpm.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 7 2016, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (ChrisGLP @ Jan 6 2016, 11:10 AM) *
Hi Gab, I have also tried to play something to the second part of the track... I have made my own solo so "difficult" for me that I am at the absolute limit... laugh.gif laugh.gif



Hi Chris! I've missed this one at first. I think that your solo sounds interesting. I would only like to suggest to practice it a bit more to polish the phrases and the connections among them.

Just a detail, in the first bend you are reaching a note that is out of scale, try bending to a chord tone. The chord sounding there is Am so you could bend to A, E or C.


Posted by: tflava Jan 7 2016, 04:06 PM

Hey man,

Is it possible to record my thing tomorrow?
Or is that too late?

GreetzTim

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 7 2016, 05:24 PM

Hi Gab & Team,

Haven't had a lot of time to do much with this and thought I should tidy what I had up originally and get it posted so you at least had something to work with so anyway here it is attached my Green182day effort ;-) , the vid(as punky as I could make it look...errr sorry) is downscaled to get the upload to work, hope its ok. Audio is clipping a bit on the vid but figure you'll be overlaying a new mix?

https://youtu.be/xoO42RwGUk0

All the best,
Trev

 Punk_Lead_GTR___07_01_2016_16.05.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 82
 GMC_Punk_Collabration_Trigger76_.mov ( 59.11MB ) : 135
 

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 7 2016, 11:11 PM

I had a (rather long) jam session over this backing today! blink.gif

https://www.facebook.com/kristofer.dahl/videos/10154081388752069/

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 8 2016, 10:09 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 8 2016, 12:11 AM) *
I had a (rather long) jam session over this backing today! blink.gif

https://www.facebook.com/kristofer.dahl/videos/10154081388752069/


Here are the files. It is just the first cue.

I started audio from point 0 and included your pre-count.

http://we.tl/rAZQZnzMRL

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 8 2016, 01:52 PM

QUOTE (tflava @ Jan 7 2016, 12:06 PM) *
Hey man,

Is it possible to record my thing tomorrow?
Or is that too late?

GreetzTim



yes! It's possible! smile.gif

QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Jan 7 2016, 01:24 PM) *
Hi Gab & Team,

Haven't had a lot of time to do much with this and thought I should tidy what I had up originally and get it posted so you at least had something to work with so anyway here it is attached my Green182day effort ;-) , the vid(as punky as I could make it look...errr sorry) is downscaled to get the upload to work, hope its ok. Audio is clipping a bit on the vid but figure you'll be overlaying a new mix?

https://youtu.be/xoO42RwGUk0

All the best,
Trev




Fantastic!! Your solos and guitar melodies will add a lot to the song! You composed very tasty lines that reminds me to many 90's 00's pop punk bands. And your video looks very cool. Great job. Thanks a lot for joining!

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 8 2016, 06:09 AM) *
Here are the files. It is just the first cue.

I started audio from point 0 and included your pre-count.

http://we.tl/rAZQZnzMRL




Great! There is a lot happening in your solo and sounds very Dahl's style. It's great to see how you keep developing your own voice in guitar.

Thanks for joining Kris!

Posted by: tflava Jan 8 2016, 03:49 PM



Hey man!

I tried to make the best of it. Hope you like it smile.gif

Here is the guitar only an the vid of the recording.

Thanks already.[attachment=43777:punk_col...guitar_1.wav]


Greetz Tim

[attachment=43778:punk_collab_video.AVI]
Forgot this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RHfl9be92s

if you cant see the youtube

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 9 2016, 09:38 AM

Hey guys, do we have any lyrics yet?
Would love to record vocals today or tomorrow. If needed, I can try to write some lyrics too.

Christian

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 9 2016, 10:28 AM

Todd here! I hope I'm in time smile.gif

Here is the solo with backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


Solo without backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


PREVIEW

video file zipped
 Punkcollab.mp4.zip ( 12.87MB ) : 102

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 9 2016, 02:56 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 9 2016, 05:38 AM) *
Hey guys, do we have any lyrics yet?
Would love to record vocals today or tomorrow. If needed, I can try to write some lyrics too.

Christian



That would be awesome mate!! I'll start mixing this one on Monday so if you can submit anything today or tomorrow we can make this one a hit! smile.gif

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 9 2016, 06:28 AM) *
Todd here! I hope I'm in time smile.gif

Here is the solo with backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


Solo without backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


PREVIEW

video file zipped
 Punkcollab.mp4.zip ( 12.87MB ) : 102




You rock Todd!! Thanks a lot for your take! smile.gif

QUOTE (tflava @ Jan 8 2016, 11:49 AM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RHfl9be92s

if you cant see the youtube




It sounds great! Thanks a lot mate! smile.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 9 2016, 07:39 PM

Thanks smile.gif I added some dissonant/out of key notes when you switched keys for some punk flavor smile.gif I'm using this in todays chat lesson also. Looking forward to the final!
Used Th2 and a brunetti (italian) head. Here is the patch.

 th2_416.xml.zip ( 2.41K ) : 74




QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 9 2016, 08:56 AM) *
You rock Todd!! Thanks a lot for your take! smile.gif


It sounds great! Thanks a lot mate! smile.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 9 2016, 09:04 PM

Gabe, I hate to say it but the first section seems to be G Major, not E minor. I did solo in E Minor in the first part and it gave it an out of tune/dissonant sound which sounded punk so I kept it but it's entirely out of key IMHO smile.gif The first sections Rood notes are actually G Major.

I know it's a bit late to say this now as the due date has past, but for those who struggled a bit to make E Minor fit, don't worry, it's not you, it's just punk music!

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 23 2015, 03:29 PM) *
Hey friends! Welcome to my new collab!

This one is based on a Punk Rock backing track taken from my new http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/20-Punk-Bands-In-one-song/.

If you listen to the backing, you'll identify 3 parts from the lesson (DieToten Hosen, Rise Against and Social Distortion) You can go to those parts in the lesson to learn the chords and rhythm.

 Punk_Collab_Backing.mp3 ( 1.17MB ) : 293



You can record solos over the whole backing or you can choose one part and solo over it. The same goes for the vocals, you can create lyrics and vocal lines for the part that you like more.


Tempo: 90 bpm


Guitar Solos:

If you are planning to solo over this one, you can use E minor over the first (Die Toten Hosen), A minor (Rise Against) over the second one and G major over the third one (Social Distortion). You can use also use the Pentatonic scales.

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


Vocals:

Everybody is invited to record vocals and write lyrics.


Files:

You can share audio files for the audio mix and also a video or picture for the final video.


Deadline: January 10th


Who is in?

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 9 2016, 10:09 PM

Okay, here's my go. It actually is about as good as the many many punk bands I saw in my youth in backstreet pubs, a lot of them didn't really know what they were doing they were just enjoying it and making a statement with their lyrics so I think I can get away with this one being a bit shoddy wink.gif I couldn't think of anything for the piece before this so I've faded it in.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/punk-collab-with-backing

Files:
 Punk_collab_with_backing.wav ( 7.79MB ) : 72


 Punk_collab_guitar_only.wav ( 7.79MB ) : 84


After posting this I realised I hadn't checked my tuning, when I did it was not good. Sorry Gab. This was a total improve and probably the best feeling I got so I wouldn't be able to reproduce it. I can try tomorrow to come up with something again if you want as I know you won't use something out of tune. I'm so angry with myself and my ear isn't good enough to notice, especially when playing short notes and as quick as this. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
I guess I was being a little bit too "live punk" as I suspect they were very often out of tune when playing live, like Mr Jones . laugh.gif

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 10 2016, 12:02 PM

Hi Gab... here my try for the second part of the collab... it was a very good improvisation training for me smile.gif

The bendings at the beginning and the end... it was the first time that I wanted disharmonious bends laugh.gif





 chris_glp_without_back.mp3 ( 601.63K ) : 69
 chris_glp_collab.zip ( 24.5MB ) : 78
 

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 10 2016, 01:41 PM

OK, another improv this time in tune wink.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/punk-collab-with-backing-ii

 Punk_collab_with_backing_II.wav ( 7.41MB ) : 91


 Punk_collab_guitar_only_II.wav ( 7.41MB ) : 65


Cheers

Posted by: bleez Jan 10 2016, 02:51 PM

Here's what I got. I just done the second part of the backing as I didnt like what I had for the first part at all dry.gif




with backing
[attachment=43825:punk_collab_bleez.wav]

guitar only
[attachment=43826:punk_col...ar_bleez.wav]

vid file
[attachment=43827:punk_take2.wmv]

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 10 2016, 05:03 PM

Hey guys,

I wrote some lyrics in the spirit of punk ;-)

This is the first verse and chorus. I've also got a second verse if we need one.

Messing around with the guitar now, let's see if I can come up with something.

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/gmc-punk-collab-vocals

Edit:

And here is the guitar solo:

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/punk-collab-guitar-wbt

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 11 2016, 03:59 AM

Awesome guys!! It's really cool to have so many guitar solos for this one! Thank you very much for your takes. This collab is very promising. smile.gif

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 10 2016, 01:03 PM) *
Hey guys,

I wrote some lyrics in the spirit of punk ;-)

This is the first verse and chorus. I've also got a second verse if we need one.

Messing around with the guitar now, let's see if I can come up with something.

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/gmc-punk-collab-vocals

Edit:

And here is the guitar solo:

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/punk-collab-guitar-wbt




Hey mate! As I've said via PM, this idea sounds good to me! Could you please share the lyrics here to let me or any other GMCer add some backing vocals for this one?

Also, remember to share the only vocals final takes when you have them.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 11 2016, 05:15 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 9 2016, 05:04 PM) *
Gabe, I hate to say it but the first section seems to be G Major, not E minor. I did solo in E Minor in the first part and it gave it an out of tune/dissonant sound which sounded punk so I kept it but it's entirely out of key IMHO smile.gif The first sections Rood notes are actually G Major.

I know it's a bit late to say this now as the due date has past, but for those who struggled a bit to make E Minor fit, don't worry, it's not you, it's just punk music!



Hi Todd, you're right! It's my fault. sad.gif

However, as both G major and E minor share the same notes, and I suggested using Pentatonic scale I think that this shouldn't have been a problem, unless using too much C note over G chord... (as you did sad.gif ). This note is part of the scale but it's a fourth which is not a great place to stay too much.... except if you are SO punk rock. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 11 2016, 07:51 PM

Hey Gab,

here are the raw vocal files.
Two for the chorus (I sang one version more aggressive and one a bit higher) and a separate one for verse 1 and verse 2.

My guitar files are in my post above.

As for the video, can you give me time till tomorrow to record it? biggrin.gif

Christian

Oh, here are the lyrics:

Verse 1:
Sitting in my office, got punk in my head
listening to Bad Religion and Minor Threat
my boss comes in and takes offense
I swear someday I will Rise Against.

Verse 2:
I come home to my wife and she kisses my neck
but I can only think of Anti Flag
from the backyard I can hear my Offspring
but I turn up The Ramones and then I sing

Chorus:
The KKK took my baby away
now I just play guitar all day
don't want no job or a family
just play guitar at GMC

 Punk_collab_Chorus_version_1.mp3 ( 766.53K ) : 68
 Punk_collab_Chorus_version_2.mp3 ( 766.53K ) : 65
 Punk_collab_First_Verse.mp3 ( 602.45K ) : 62
 Punk_collab_Second_Verse.mp3 ( 602.45K ) : 58
 

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 12 2016, 01:47 AM

You nailed it!! I spent waaay to much time using the C over the G chord thinking it should work. If it wasn't for this I'd have never noticed. But the dissonant sound gave it a punk vibe so I kept it all smile.gif

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 11 2016, 11:15 AM) *
Hi Todd, you're right! It's my fault. sad.gif

However, as both G major and E minor share the same notes, and I suggested using Pentatonic scale I think that this shouldn't have been a problem, unless using too much C note over G chord... (as you did sad.gif ). This note is part of the scale but it's a fourth which is not a great place to stay too much.... except if you are SO punk rock. biggrin.gif


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 12 2016, 04:44 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 11 2016, 03:51 PM) *
Hey Gab,

here are the raw vocal files.
Two for the chorus (I sang one version more aggressive and one a bit higher) and a separate one for verse 1 and verse 2.

My guitar files are in my post above.

As for the video, can you give me time till tomorrow to record it? biggrin.gif

Christian

Oh, here are the lyrics:

Verse 1:
Sitting in my office, got punk in my head
listening to Bad Religion and Minor Threat
my boss comes in and takes offense
I swear someday I will Rise Against.

Verse 2:
I come home to my wife and she kisses my neck
but I can only think of Anti Flag
from the backyard I can hear my Offspring
but I turn up The Ramones and then I sing

Chorus:
The KKK took my baby away
now I just play guitar all day
don't want no job or a family
just play guitar at GMC




Thanks a lot mate! Yes, I can wait for your video. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 12 2016, 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 9 2016, 06:28 AM) *
Todd here! I hope I'm in time smile.gif

Here is the solo with backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


Solo without backing
 ToddWithBacking.mp3 ( 1.56MB ) : 92


PREVIEW

video file zipped
 Punkcollab.mp4.zip ( 12.87MB ) : 102



Hey Todd, I've just noticed that you didn't send me your guitar only file.

QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Jan 7 2016, 01:24 PM) *
Hi Gab & Team,

Haven't had a lot of time to do much with this and thought I should tidy what I had up originally and get it posted so you at least had something to work with so anyway here it is attached my Green182day effort ;-) , the vid(as punky as I could make it look...errr sorry) is downscaled to get the upload to work, hope its ok. Audio is clipping a bit on the vid but figure you'll be overlaying a new mix?

https://youtu.be/xoO42RwGUk0

All the best,
Trev



The same here, Trev, I need your guitar only file.

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 12 2016, 06:36 PM

Hey Gab,

here are all the files you asked for biggrin.gif

The videos can be found here:
First Verse and Chorus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ebws7z1g9n5bxi/Punk%20collab%20First%20verse%20and%20chorus.mp4?dl=0
Second Verse and Chorus:https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwypj5z5bwo5mke/Punk%20collab%20Second%20Verse%20and%20Chorus.mp4?dl=0
Guitar Solo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s684njqael0a3bo/Punk%20collab%20guitar.mp4?dl=0

Cheers

Christian

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Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 12 2016, 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 12 2016, 05:28 PM) *
Hey Todd, I've just noticed that you didn't send me your guitar only file.




The same here, Trev, I need your guitar only file.



Hey Gab,

I can see my guitars only in the previous post as an MP3 under the vid link ?? I'll send you the guitar only MP3 link again on PM just to be sure. Any problems please give me a shout I'll be online for a few hours.

Thanks
Trev

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 12 2016, 09:54 PM

My bad! Just sent you a PM with the zipped file.

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 12 2016, 12:28 PM) *
Hey Todd, I've just noticed that you didn't send me your guitar only file.




The same here, Trev, I need your guitar only file.

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 12 2016, 10:04 PM

closed ?

Todd suggest me to participate, but i arrive after the battle.....

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 12 2016, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jan 12 2016, 06:04 PM) *
closed ?

Todd suggest me to participate, but i arrive after the battle.....

Laurent



It's closed but if you upload your take and video (or photo) today I'll find a place for you in the final mix.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 14 2016, 04:24 PM

Ho everybody! I wanted to tell you that I have the mix for this one and now I'm working on the video. I have to say that this will be one of the best GMC collabs you've ever heard!!! biggrin.gif

Please Phil check my PM about the picture or video to add it to the clip!

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 14 2016, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 14 2016, 03:24 PM) *
Ho everybody! I wanted to tell you that I have the mix for this one and now I'm working on the video. I have to say that this will be one of the best GMC collabs you've ever heard!!! biggrin.gif

Please Phil check my PM about the picture or video to add it to the clip!



Great stuff, the contributions on the thread have been cool, look forward to seeing the end result, well done all, and thanks for the effort on our behalf Gab ;-)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 14 2016, 04:38 PM

Edit: Solved

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 14 2016, 09:05 PM

Hi Gabriel

Sorry , these days i had to do with childs and myself, so i cannot do anything.

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 14 2016, 09:58 PM

Ok friends! This is the final video for this amazing collab!!



I’m really glad with the final results of this one so thanks everybody who joined this one and specially Gitarrero for writing lyrics and singing vocals for this one.

Participants:

Gabriel Leopardi – Rhythm Guitar & Vocals
Gitarrero – Vocals & Guitar arrangements
Trigger - Lead Guitar & arrangements
MossRoller – Lead Guitar
Phil66 – Guitar melodies in verse
Kristofer Dahl – Epic Guitar Solo
Procyon – Second Epic Solo
Tflava - More Guitar epicness!
Todd – Classic Metal Guitar Solo
Chris GLP – Punky Solo



Some extra comments:

Gitarrero: You have composed really tasty vocal melodies and lyrics for this one. I think that it’s time to form your punk band and tour with Die Toten Hosen! Your guitar track is also epic and could be full used if this weren’t a collab with many players. By the way, I noticed that the verse riff fits great in the mix. Keep rocking!

Trigger76: Your solo is very tasty. I love how your tone fits with the backing. I think that the use of wah wah and the guitar harmonics are killer choices. Everything is perfectly played so you rock mate. Congrats!

MossRoller: Your phrasing is very tasteful, I enjoy listening to your hole solo over and over. Except by some little sections where lines direction is not totally defined, the overall is killer! Thanks for the cool looking video!

Phil66: I’m glad that you’ve decided to join this one! It’s a pity that I didn’t receive a video from you but your name is shown on screen. It’s not easy to add a guitar solo when vocals are sounding, but in this case, your solo fit great! Thanks mate!

Procyon: Your solo is really cool and could be an instrumental song by itself. You managed really well structure and have a very Satch feel. Well done!

Tflava: You are a very hard worker student and I’m glad to find that your playing is becoming very musical. There are things to clean in your solo, and technique to adjust but the idea is clear and cool to hear. Keep working!

Chris GLP: Killer solo, perfect technique and Gibson Les Paul warmness. Your solo is very enjoyable and fits really well with the style. Thanks for your entry!

Bleez: As I've said via PM, there was something wrong with the scale choices for your solo so I couldn't make it fit. I'm sorry about it!

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 14 2016, 10:11 PM

Sorry Gab,

I missed getting a picture to you in time, I've been at a trade show all day so couldn't do anything today, I've sent you some before I noticed this had been posted sad.gif

Thanks for the collab Gab, this is awesome that students and tutors alike have made a song that could be on an album.My monitors must not be very good, I can only just hear my part laugh.gif We should release "GMC: The best of so far" smile.gif

Ready for the next smile.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 14 2016, 10:45 PM

nice job folks !!!!

i like it !

Laurent

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 15 2016, 07:02 AM

Gab, many thx for that awesome video!!! Unbelievable what you have done with these many different sound and video files!!

That is epiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic!!! cool.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 15 2016, 08:40 AM

Haha,
thanks for the feedback and for putting it all together. It's awesome!
Great collab, can't wait for the next one!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 15 2016, 08:41 AM

YEAH!! biggrin.gif This is an amazing result!

Looking back at it, my take felt a bit out style wise - it's safe to say I feel 'outdone' by GMC students biggrin.gif You guys rock!

And I got a very warm feeling by seeing Gitarero lead the punky way cool.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 15 2016, 08:48 AM

I think I'm happy that I made you feel warm, Kris biggrin.gif

Posted by: tflava Jan 15 2016, 10:22 AM

Thanks for the hard work man.

Well done!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 15 2016, 11:06 AM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 15 2016, 08:48 AM) *
I think I'm happy that I made you feel warm, Kris biggrin.gif


It only last for 30 seconds - then it becomes a cold and wet sensation ph34r.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 15 2016, 11:20 AM

A killer job by all! Great job on putting it all together as well!

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 15 2016, 11:34 AM

Good job fella's, I enjoyed being part of it ... some good comradery smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 15 2016, 01:23 PM

I'm glad that you liked!! I can't stop listening to this song. Gitarrero you have to write your own Punk album!

Kris, I love how your solo fits in this song. The backing goes mid tempo, progressions changes and your solo is so expressive. It gives the track a very refreshing feel.


Posted by: fzalfa Jan 15 2016, 01:31 PM

and when a new collab ?
what sort of ?

Laurent

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 15 2016, 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 15 2016, 01:23 PM) *
I'm glad that you liked!! I can't stop listening to this song. Gitarrero you have to write your own Punk album!


Thanks man! It means a lot, coming from an awesome punk composer such as yourself.
Ville and I are working on new songs as we speak for our project FinGer, and the plan is to have an album ready later this year smile.gif

Christian

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 15 2016, 03:35 PM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jan 15 2016, 09:31 AM) *
and when a new collab ?
what sort of ?

Laurent



Style suggestions? biggrin.gif


QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 15 2016, 09:41 AM) *
Thanks man! It means a lot, coming from an awesome punk composer such as yourself.
Ville and I are working on new songs as we speak for our project FinGer, and the plan is to have an album ready later this year smile.gif

Christian



Awesome! You can count with me if you need any help! smile.gif

Posted by: Procyon Jan 15 2016, 04:11 PM

Wow, this is awesome!! Well done everybody - great song with great lyrics! Thanks a lot Gab for your amazing mix and your feedback, I'm proud to be part of this!

Posted by: WeePee Jan 15 2016, 04:47 PM

Wow you guys did good. I'm sorry I didn't have the time to work on this. I'm in for nexr collab for sure wink.gif

And wait for our (Me+Gitarrero) new punk song. It's almost ready cool.gif

https://soundcloud.com/finger-7

Posted by: Sensible Jones Jan 15 2016, 05:32 PM

Wow!!
Awesome job guys!!!
smile.gif smile.gif

Posted by: AK Rich Jan 15 2016, 06:33 PM

Congrats to everyone on another fine collab. Great job everyone! Except for Kris. Kris! Sit up straight man, and quit trying to eat your guitar while soloing! Sorry , I just couldn't resist yanking your chain a bit on that one. cool.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Jan 15 2016, 07:20 PM

How about a melodic death metal collab next biggrin.gif
Sure would be fun to write and record some lyrics for such a song...

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 15 2016, 08:38 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 15 2016, 03:20 PM) *
How about a melodic death metal collab next biggrin.gif
Sure would be fun to write and record some lyrics for such a song...



I like the idea! What bands do you have in mind?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 15 2016, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Jan 15 2016, 06:33 PM) *
Congrats to everyone on another fine collab. Great job everyone! Except for Kris. Kris! Sit up straight man, and quit trying to eat your guitar while soloing! Sorry , I just couldn't resist yanking your chain a bit on that one. cool.gif


Practicing as we speak!!!!! tongue.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 15 2016, 09:22 PM

Thought I'd add locations just to show how extra awesome these collabs are. A great global effort by all smile.gif

Participants:

Gabriel Leopardi – Rhythm Guitar & Vocals (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
Gitarrero – Vocals & Guitar arrangements (Rottweil, Germany)
Trigger - Lead Guitar & arrangements (Unknown)
MossRoller – Lead Guitar (Mississippi, USA)
Phil66 – Guitar melodies in verse (The Black Country, England)
Kristofer Dahl – Epic Guitar Solo (Stockholm, Sweden)
Procyon – Second Epic Solo (Switzerland)
Tflava - More Guitar epicness! (Den Helder, Holland)
Todd – Classic Metal Guitar Solo (Atlanta, USA)
Chris GLP – Punky Solo (Germany)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 15 2016, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:22 PM) *
Thought I'd add locations just to show how extra awesome these collabs are. A great global effort by all smile.gif

Participants:

Gabriel Leopardi – Rhythm Guitar & Vocals (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
Gitarrero – Vocals & Guitar arrangements (Rottweil, Germany)
Trigger - Lead Guitar & arrangements (Unknown)
MossRoller – Lead Guitar (Mississippi, USA)
Phil66 – Guitar melodies in verse (The Black Country, England)
Kristofer Dahl – Epic Guitar Solo (Stockholm, Sweden)
Procyon – Second Epic Solo (Switzerland)
Tflava - More Guitar epicness! (Den Helder, Holland)
Todd – Classic Metal Guitar Solo (Atlanta, USA)
Chris GLP – Punky Solo (Germany)


Indeed - we've overcome traditional boundaries!

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 15 2016, 09:58 PM

Hi Gab, whats about the piano backing I have made? Something new for a collab...

You know the piano backing... cool.gif smile.gif

 gmc_friends.mp3 ( 2.94MB ) : 150
 

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 16 2016, 09:27 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 15 2016, 08:38 PM) *
I like the idea! What bands do you have in mind?


Somethin like Opeth ,Amorphis, Paradise lost, a mix of that !

Laurent

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 18 2016, 12:40 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 15 2016, 08:48 PM) *
Indeed - we've overcome traditional boundaries!


Trigger - Dublin, Ireland

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 18 2016, 01:26 AM

QUOTE (ChrisGLP @ Jan 15 2016, 05:58 PM) *
Hi Gab, whats about the piano backing I have made? Something new for a collab...

You know the piano backing... cool.gif smile.gif



I love how this sounds... it would be a very epic tune. What do you think guys?

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 18 2016, 11:14 PM

Yeah could be good. I can imagine Mr Vai doing something amazing with that.

Let's do it smile.gif we could do a whole piece or just a few seconds, wink.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 18 2016, 11:22 PM

CHris

I love your tune, i can do somethin on and share ?

Laurent

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 19 2016, 02:47 AM

Awesome!! What is the album called? Several ideas just write themselves smile.gif Love the title of the band!


QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 15 2016, 07:41 AM) *
Thanks man! It means a lot, coming from an awesome punk composer such as yourself.
Ville and I are working on new songs as we speak for our project FinGer, and the plan is to have an album ready later this year smile.gif

Christian

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 19 2016, 08:53 AM

QUOTE
I love how this sounds... it would be a very epic tune. What do you think guys?


let's work on ??

my guitar vacation are over (in fact, it really be effective for some minutes)

Edit:

This is a small improvised jam on the Chris Backtrack

https://soundcloud.com/laurent-377054242/friend-gmc

an early one, i still have new idea while writing this post..... Mojo is back !

i think this is for me a good occasion to work around slow play expression, on this on i use the volume pedal, not mastered but i'll do !

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 19 2016, 01:42 PM

That's beautiful Laurent! It's cool to see that you find this backing as inspiring as me... I think that we should do something big... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 19 2016, 01:44 PM

I need to know the key please wink.gif

Thanks

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 19 2016, 01:59 PM

QUOTE (ChrisGLP @ Jan 15 2016, 09:58 PM) *
Hi Gab, whats about the piano backing I have made? Something new for a collab...

You know the piano backing... cool.gif smile.gif


YEAH! Sounds beautiful Chris, we should go for this biggrin.gif I would be in!

Btw have you recorded it to a click track?

QUOTE (Trigger76 @ Jan 18 2016, 12:40 AM) *
Trigger - Dublin, Ireland


It's awesome to have you here mate! biggrin.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 19 2016, 02:10 PM

A minor or C major

Laurent

QUOTE
That's beautiful Laurent! It's cool to see that you find this backing as inspiring as me... I think that we should do something big...


yes WE can do something awesome, but we need a longer BT, chris ??? take your piano and play plz

Laurent

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 19 2016, 02:11 PM

Thx Kris... I have made this backing with EZKeys Grand Piano... With this software you can choose different styles (ballads, blues, etc.). Each style consists of different modules (intro, verse, bridge, chorus, etc.). Now you have the possibility to combine these different modules as you want and create the chords and speed... and much more possibilities... Its awesome! smile.gif

Laurent, lets wait what Gab decides which collab is the next... smile.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 19 2016, 02:15 PM

QUOTE
Laurent, lets wait what Gab decides which collab is the next... smile.gif


Even if Gabriel decide to do another thing, nothing forbid us to do something with this BT.

Laurent

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 19 2016, 02:26 PM

Yes sure Laurent... I am happy that you like the backing, thx smile.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 19 2016, 02:28 PM

yes, this one is whispering nice stuff to my ears !

can you give the chord progression ?

Laurent

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 19 2016, 02:34 PM

QUOTE (ChrisGLP @ Jan 19 2016, 02:11 PM) *
Thx Kris... I have made this backing with EZKeys Grand Piano... With this software you can choose different styles (ballads, blues, etc.). Each style consists of different modules (intro, verse, bridge, chorus, etc.). Now you have the possibility to combine these different modules as you want and create the chords and speed... and much more possibilities... Its awesome! smile.gif


Ah interesting - I will check it out as I am not skilled at playing and programming piano.

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 20 2016, 09:30 AM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jan 19 2016, 01:10 PM) *
A minor or C major

Laurent


Thanks Laurent,
Do you have a really good ear or do you work it out some other way? I'd love to be able to do that smile.gif
Cheers

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 20 2016, 11:06 AM

QUOTE
Thanks Laurent,
Do you have a really good ear or do you work it out some other way? I'd love to be able to do that smile.gif
Cheers


Hi Phil,

I work on ear training, reconizing notes, chords , intervals

Not easy

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 20 2016, 11:45 AM

Yeah, very hard,

I'm getting better at relative pitch very slowly but perfect pitch is light years away.

Are you confident it is in the key you said?

Cheers

Posted by: ChrisGLP Jan 20 2016, 12:51 PM

Hi Phil, the key is E minor.... the chord progression follows today....

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 20 2016, 12:53 PM

Eminor ?

i play on in Aminor, and it's ok

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 20 2016, 01:19 PM

Ahhh,

I thought you knew exactly wink.gif I could play in any key over it and it would sound ok to my ears biggrin.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jan 20 2016, 02:38 PM

it's an error from me

i play Eminor...... why i talk about A...... i promise, i 'm not drunk !

edit:

Sound good for me !

https://soundcloud.com/laurent-377054242/friend-solo-try

Eminor

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 20 2016, 03:49 PM

You should check this guys!

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=56518

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