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GMC Forum _ THEORY _ A Hungarian Minor And How To Apply?
Posted by: SlyRy Aug 23 2011, 01:14 AM
On the following link, it states the chords derived from the A Hungarian Minor are:
C minor, D7 flat fifth, E flat aug, G major, A flat 7th, and B minor sixth
Are these the ONLY chords you can play an A Hungarian minor too?
If I wrote a song in regular AM, could I play the A Hungarian minor over it? I ask because the A Hungarian minor, has notes , which are not in the key of AM (Eb and G#)
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 23 2011, 03:07 AM
I've never used this scale but you can check these two lessons by Ramiro where you'll find good explanations and musical examples...
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/exotic-scales-hungarian-minor/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/exotic_scales_hungarian_minor_solo/
Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 23 2011, 09:21 AM
C minor, D7 flat fifth, E flat aug, G major, A flat 7th, and B minor sixth
Are these the ONLY chords you can play an A Hungarian minor too?
If I wrote a song in regular AM, could I play the A Hungarian minor over it? I ask because the A Hungarian minor, has notes , which are not in the key of AM (Eb and G#)
I don't know the scale either but I would still use it over Am if I wanted to. The way I see it is like this; it's no different than people playing the 'blue note' or chromatice 'outside' notes over a chord so there is no reason at all why you can't play a scale that has notes outside of that chord. The key with exotic modes (same as any other scale) is to make it work and sound like it fits instead of sounding like you're just running up and down an exotic mode.. so try and avoid licks that sound like exercises
I would probably combine an exotic mode with the natural minor of that chord, perhaps use the mode for a run that links up some phrases together ?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 23 2011, 03:14 PM
C minor, D7 flat fifth, E flat aug, G major, A flat 7th, and B minor sixth
Are these the ONLY chords you can play an A Hungarian minor too?
If I wrote a song in regular AM, could I play the A Hungarian minor over it? I ask because the A Hungarian minor, has notes , which are not in the key of AM (Eb and G#)
Sure you can use hungarian minor or any other variation, it will just depend if you need to sit down and work this scale properly. In other words - unless you are familiar with this pattern very well (and you should be, it's almost identical to Am, except with the addition of Eb and G# right?), you will spend some time analyzing.
It's all about the strong notes mate. If you compose using Am key chords, you will use Am, C, Dm, Em, F, G, Bdim.. Each of these chords have strong notes.
Let me give you an example:
You place Am-G as your harmonic background. This is Am key. Am has A C E notes, and Gmajor has G B D notes. If you stick with those strong notes over these chords, and in between use Eb and G#, it will sound good most of the time, depending on the arrangement. If you start or end your phrase over Am chord on any other notes than A C and E, it will sound "weak", and if you start and end on Eb or G#, it will sound very out of key.
Posted by: Mudbone Aug 23 2011, 03:47 PM
If Michael Jackson was still alive he would probably get excited by the name of this thread 
Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 23 2011, 04:25 PM
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 23 2011, 04:57 PM
my my my...
Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Aug 23 2011, 05:40 PM
This song is based on the hungarian minor !
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 23 2011, 06:55 PM
O-oh
Posted by: Daniel Realpe Aug 24 2011, 12:03 AM
this song has something! that Joe...such a good composer
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