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Posted by: audiopaal Oct 19 2009, 11:49 PM

Hi people.

I traded in my Bogner Duende amp today.
Right after work I went and picked up my new baby biggrin.gif

I recorded some clips right after I got it home and had played around with it a little,
and I thought I'd let you guess what it is tongue.gif

I've been trying out tons of amps to find the right one.
I was looking for the perfect clean/crucnh sound.
Now I've found the best clean sounding amp there is, for me (at least the best I've heard yet).
Sounds like what I've been looking for for a long time smile.gif


Here's a clip:

With backing:  what_amp.mp3 ( 4.12MB ) : 247

Guitars Only:  what_amp_guitars.mp3 ( 4.12MB ) : 216


The amp is mic'ed up with a Shure Beta57a.
Added a tiny bit of reverb on the guitars in Cubase (and Delay on the solo/melody guitars).
Recorded in a hurry, but sounds pretty good, in my opinion at least wink.gif
I'm gonna work some more on mic placement etc., but for now I just wanna play biggrin.gif

Hope you like it smile.gif
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The new amp is... *drumroll*

REINHARDT THE 18

This is pictures of the actual amp:














Designers description:
Our first product, and still one of the all time favorites is the 18. Based on the 18 watt Marshall ™ with a few circuit changes. Goes anywhere from sweet clean tones, to classic rock, to heavier gain, but not too heavy. Think AC/DC, Van Halen, ABB, etc. This amp does it all, and does it so well. Touch sensitivity on either channel is second to none. Play lightly, it's sweet cleans, dig in a little and its mild bluesy overdrive. Dig in harder and its Classic rock at its finest. No need for pedals with this, but it loves a good boost as well. Do not confuse with the original 18 watt Marshall amp, this amp has all that, and much more.

The first channel, or "normal" channel is based on the stock amp, nice chimey cleans to a killer smokey blues. Great feel and dynamics.

The second channel or "bright" channel is the hotrodded channel. This channel has had the tremolo removed, and another gain stage and full range EQ added in its place. With a master volume on this channel, it can go from amazing chimey clean to nice crunchy gritty blues, to a killer classic and hard rock tone. No over the top heavy muddy gain here, but a killer hot plexi level.

For those who wonder if 18 watts is enough to gig with, the answer is YES. Several customers report that its great to be able to turn an amp up enough at a gig to get that sweet power tube distortion without being yelled at be the soundman, or the club owner. Easily loud enough to be heard over all but the most heavy handed drummer.

Amps come standard with

* PEC Mil Spec pots
* GT/Mullard RI 1212AX7/ ECC83, JJ ECC803, TungSol RI 12ax7OR EI ECC83
* JJ EL84
* EH 6CA4/EZ81 rectifier
* Transformers are Heyboer copies of the original Radio Spares trannies
* Mallory 150 caps, 1% tolerance resistors, all teflon wire and shieled input cable for low noise.




I'll write a review on it after spending some more time with it,
and I'll post some new clips (different styles) in the next few days smile.gif

Congratulations Xuestor! You were the only one who guessed it right biggrin.gif

Posted by: Marc_Maiden Oct 20 2009, 12:32 AM

sounds like a vox chime to me smile.gif

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 20 2009, 12:36 AM

I would say Vox, but who knows smile.gif

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 12:39 AM

Thanks for the votes guys smile.gif
After work tomorrow I'll tell you what it is, and write a bit about it smile.gif

Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Oct 20 2009, 04:13 AM

I also think it's a Vox.

Posted by: maharzan Oct 20 2009, 06:04 AM

That is so clean and warmth.. thats what I love on tube amps. smile.gif

I voted for Fender twin... never tried vox.. but might be.

Posted by: Boson Oct 20 2009, 06:48 AM

Whatever it is it sounds really good, I live the sound a lot.

I like what you are playing too, any chance you could post the backing, I wouldnt mind having a try at it myself.

Cheers.

Posted by: Staffy Oct 20 2009, 07:38 AM

I can't tell exactly...but if its a stock amp, its not Marshall or Fender..... so I will go for Vox, since it have a vintage warm sound. Btw. I learned yesterday by shredding forums about amps, that there is some really dirty tricks that can be done here, I believe that these electronic guy's can make my dog sound like a Marshall if necessary! But the point here is that don't expect a "stock" amp to sound like Your favourite players amp, since these guy's have technicians who's adjusting the bias of the tubes, replacing the tubes with different kinds, replacing capacitors & resistors and other spooky stuff. I thought I was pretty good on electronics, but this is like rocket science....

//Staffay

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 08:20 AM

QUOTE (Boson @ Oct 20 2009, 07:48 AM) *
Whatever it is it sounds really good, I live the sound a lot.

I like what you are playing too, any chance you could post the backing, I wouldnt mind having a try at it myself.

Cheers.

Thanks smile.gif

Sure, I'll post the backing when I get home from work!


QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 20 2009, 08:38 AM) *
I can't tell exactly...but if its a stock amp, its not Marshall or Fender..... so I will go for Vox, since it have a vintage warm sound. Btw. I learned yesterday by shredding forums about amps, that there is some really dirty tricks that can be done here, I believe that these electronic guy's can make my dog sound like a Marshall if necessary! But the point here is that don't expect a "stock" amp to sound like Your favourite players amp, since these guy's have technicians who's adjusting the bias of the tubes, replacing the tubes with different kinds, replacing capacitors & resistors and other spooky stuff. I thought I was pretty good on electronics, but this is like rocket science....

//Staffay

I know what you mean, there is so many modifications you can do to an amp.
Some players still use stock amps though, but many, as you say, have them modified for their needs.
I get confused only by thinking of the electronics part biggrin.gif

Posted by: MickeM Oct 20 2009, 09:21 AM

I'm pretty sure it's not the Marshall, I don't hear Vox or Fender either.
Folding on the Reinheart and Savage amps.

Leaves me with what I hear, an Egnater Rebel smile.gif


EDIT: I hope it's not a Marshall since I put it the way I did wink.gif

Posted by: Staffy Oct 20 2009, 09:22 AM

QUOTE (audiopaal @ Oct 20 2009, 09:20 AM) *
I know what you mean, there is so many modifications you can do to an amp.
Some players still use stock amps though, but many, as you say, have them modified for their needs.
I get confused only by thinking of the electronics part biggrin.gif


The reason I was browsing around yesterday, was for getting some inspiration for doin some mods on my Marshall and Fender since I know what tone I want to have in both of them. I supposed in my stupidness that a small thing such as an effect-loop in my Marshall should be an easy task.... It was'nt..... laugh.gif

But as I wrote in another thread, Im hooked up with a guy in Denmark that do mods, and I will record my amps during the process, and try to post it here for evaluation....

Btw. I discovered that the Eminence speakers in most Fender amps sounds awful.... so I've ordered a couple of different celestians instead and might as well try one from Weber, that is supposed to have a sweet, brown sound.

//Staffay

Posted by: Xuestor Oct 20 2009, 02:04 PM

Reinhardt The 18!

Posted by: JVM Oct 20 2009, 02:53 PM

I would guess... AC30, or bassman. None of the others seem to quite fit really..

Posted by: Fran Oct 20 2009, 03:58 PM

I voted Egnater Rebel 20, but it's a wild guess really smile.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Oct 20 2009, 04:00 PM

Congrats!
Is it a Vox? It sounds great!
Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about the Bogner?

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Oct 20 2009, 05:00 PM) *
Congrats!
Is it a Vox? It sounds great!
Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about the Bogner?

Thanks, it sounds pretty good smile.gif
I didn't dislike anything about the Bogner, it's a great amp!
I just fell in love with the sound of this amp a while ago when I tried it.
It has less features, but the clean/crunch in this amp is just stunning smile.gif

I'll need a good pedal to riff some thunderous metal, but that's ok..
Because I got one suitable for that biggrin.gif

Ok, I'll narrow it down for you... It's not a Vox wink.gif

I'll tell you all soon, I'm gonna start updating the first post soon smile.gif

Posted by: Praetorian Oct 20 2009, 05:45 PM

Egnater Rebel 20?

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Praetorian @ Oct 20 2009, 06:45 PM) *
Egnater Rebel 20?

I'll narrow it down some more... Nope biggrin.gif

Posted by: JVM Oct 20 2009, 06:06 PM

My bet goes for the bassman then! Though it could just as easily be the Savage..

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 06:33 PM

I mic'ed with the Shure Beta57a centered in front of the cone,
to get that Voxy high end chime.
And I believe that fooled quite some people biggrin.gif

Sorry JVM, not Bassman or Savage either tongue.gif

First post updated smile.gif

Posted by: Marc_Maiden Oct 20 2009, 06:33 PM

that is a really good looking amp!



congrats man! she sounds like she would take pedals like a champ

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Oct 20 2009, 07:33 PM) *
that is a really good looking amp!



congrats man! she sounds like she would take pedals like a champ

Thanks biggrin.gif

Yeah, the pedals I've tried so far works great! smile.gif

Posted by: Boson Oct 20 2009, 06:37 PM

That amp has a nice retro look to it. Cool sound too.

Posted by: Trond Vold Oct 20 2009, 06:51 PM

Awesome smile.gif Didnt know you were getting a new amp!

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 20 2009, 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Boson @ Oct 20 2009, 07:37 PM) *
That amp has a nice retro look to it. Cool sound too.

Thanks smile.gif
I'll post the backing later today smile.gif


QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Oct 20 2009, 07:51 PM) *
Awesome smile.gif Didnt know you were getting a new amp!

No, I guess I forgot to tell you tongue.gif

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 20 2009, 11:54 PM

Congratulations Paal, may it serve you well! (until the next one ofc) biggrin.gif

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 21 2009, 06:43 AM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Oct 21 2009, 12:54 AM) *
Congratulations Paal, may it serve you well! (until the next one ofc) biggrin.gif

Thanks biggrin.gif

Posted by: Xuestor Oct 21 2009, 09:49 AM

I was the first one to vote Reinhardt biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: audiopaal Oct 21 2009, 10:00 AM

QUOTE (Xuestor @ Oct 21 2009, 10:49 AM) *
I was the first one to vote Reinhardt biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

You were the only one biggrin.gif
The other vote came after I revealed it wink.gif

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Nov 23 2009, 04:11 PM

I loved the audio clips you uploaded, very clear tone,

Posted by: audiopaal Nov 23 2009, 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 23 2009, 04:11 PM) *
I loved the audio clips you uploaded, very clear tone,

Thanks biggrin.gif
I'm really happy with the sounds so far, great amp!

Next week I finally got some time to record again, so I'm gonna post some more clips.
Hopefully you'll like them as well smile.gif

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