Guitar Chat with Muris etc. 2007-07-30 |
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Aug 8 2007, 07:35 PM
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05:45:07 muris: HEEELP
05:45:09 muris: SOS 05:45:40 muris: Anybody???? 15:59:41 kjutte: hey 16:16:17 GuitarDude: hi all 16:28:55 Nick325: hey 16:30:01 kjutte: hoi 17:35:09 jeff: Hey Muris 17:36:32 muris: hey 17:36:35 muris: :) 17:37:29 muris: how'e it going? 18:42:40 Little Wing: hello 18:42:53 muris: hey there 18:43:05 muris: nice nick :) 18:43:07 Little Wing: i see it's busy in here 18:43:10 Little Wing: ::D 18:43:17 muris: yeah 18:43:23 muris: I'm here 18:43:25 Little Wing: yer great song is little wing 18:43:31 muris: for sure 18:43:52 Little Wing: wot tym is it where you are 18:44:02 Little Wing: here in london it's 11.45 18:44:13 muris: 12;44 am 18:44:18 muris: small diference 18:44:24 Little Wing: where is that? 18:44:29 muris: Sarajevo 18:44:42 Little Wing: bosnia? 18:44:45 muris: yep 18:45:00 Little Wing: geography coming in handy there LOL 18:45:05 Little Wing: so wot music u like 18:45:09 muris: aha :) 18:45:26 muris: well I've been profi player fo about 19 years 18:45:34 muris: guess I like all kinds oif music 18:45:41 muris: sory 18:45:41 Little Wing: great 18:45:48 muris: 10 years 18:45:51 muris: fast typing 18:45:52 muris: :) 18:45:54 Little Wing: ive been playin for maybe 2 years now 18:46:01 muris: cool 18:46:08 muris: any progress? 18:46:13 Little Wing: yup 18:46:23 Little Wing: been practicing vibrato today 18:46:38 Little Wing: i struggle vibrato wen im bending, it sounds horrible 18:46:51 muris: yeah 18:46:56 muris: that's tricky part 18:47:07 muris: I have a student here with same problems 18:47:15 muris: adding vibrato to a bend 18:47:18 Little Wing: oh wow, you teach 18:47:23 muris: sure 18:47:25 Little Wing: any tips for that 18:47:29 muris: here at GMC and in private 18:47:39 muris: and on some other sites as well 18:47:48 Little Wing: great stuff 18:47:55 muris: well,guess that practicing is the best tip 18:48:05 Little Wing: for sure 18:48:09 muris: but here is another 18:48:16 muris: do the bend 18:48:18 muris: hold it 18:48:39 muris: and slightly release string and pull it back up 18:48:43 muris: and repate that 18:48:47 muris: in diferent timing 18:48:58 Little Wing: thanks 18:49:11 muris: hope that;ll help 18:49:19 muris: let me know if you need anything else 18:49:44 Little Wing: oh wow 18:49:48 Little Wing: that helped a lot! 18:50:06 Little Wing: coz i was bending it back down but by just realing pressure sounds better allready 18:52:02 Little Wing: how often do you practice 18:52:05 Little Wing: or you did 18:52:09 muris: not that much 18:52:18 muris: I'm palying/recording all the time :) 18:52:26 Little Wing: lucky 18:52:29 muris: but used to practice for abut 5-6 hours per day 18:52:45 Little Wing: like me 18:52:49 Little Wing: well i try 18:52:53 Little Wing: sometimes im lazy 18:53:37 Little Wing: im going to go 18:53:43 Little Wing: hope to spk to you again 18:53:48 Little Wing: take care 18:53:50 muris: of course 18:53:53 muris: you too 18:53:55 muris: see ya 18:53:57 Little Wing: bye bye 18:57:27 Owen: hey :P 18:57:42 Owen: *whip* 18:57:49 muris: holy 18:57:52 muris: that hurts 18:57:53 muris: lol 18:57:57 Owen: lol 18:58:01 Owen: Whats up? 18:58:05 muris: all fine 18:58:07 muris: you? 18:58:15 Owen: I'm admiring the Collaboration 18:58:29 Owen: and asking myself how I'ma gonna get away with the other one I signed up for lol 18:58:37 muris: ohh yeah 18:58:41 muris: it was a great job 18:59:20 Owen: at the mo I'm having major problems, my mate broke my mic stand so I'm having to go for DI, which sadly results in a lot of hum from the amo 18:59:20 muris: you are talking of new one? 18:59:27 Owen: amp* 18:59:30 Owen: yeah! 18:59:40 muris: I got it wrong 18:59:45 muris: but wish you luck! 18:59:52 Owen: well I was talking about the old one 18:59:59 Owen: then I moved on to the new one :P 19:00:05 Owen: I'm everywher lol 19:00:15 muris: so you're quite active in colabs 19:00:17 muris: great :) 19:00:53 Owen: well not really, I'm sorta dreading this, everyones better than moi :P 19:01:37 muris: no matter 19:01:43 muris: it's great experience 19:02:51 Owen: your custom guitar looks awesome 19:02:53 Owen: nice colour 19:03:46 muris: thanks:) 19:03:55 muris: we made burst together 19:04:03 muris: you can see me wearing the mask :) 19:04:44 Owen: cool 19:05:20 muris: friend of mine runs that custom shop 19:05:24 Owen: takes a while to get it nice :P 19:05:30 muris: ohh yeah 19:05:33 muris: lot of time 19:05:44 Owen: I sanded my guitar down from this horrible orange laquer 19:05:54 Owen: it was horrible 19:06:06 Owen: nasty puke colour 19:06:08 Owen: lol 19:06:15 muris: lol 19:06:25 muris: this one is kind a nature 19:06:33 muris: with burst 19:06:40 muris: looks really nice 19:06:44 Owen: took ages though, my circulation was killing after the hours of sanding 19:06:50 muris: and with black hardware 19:06:53 muris: awesome 19:07:27 muris: not sure if I got it correct 19:07:31 muris: what is sanding? 19:08:14 Owen: taking off all the old coating, with a sander (not sure how to explain that) 19:08:17 Owen: maybe a picture 19:08:55 Owen: http://benchmark.20m.com/reviews/RidgidBel...BeltRelease.gif 19:09:14 muris: got it 19:09:41 muris: called that way cause it leaves lot of sand in the air :) 19:10:12 Owen: well yeah, because your rubbing a material off with the sandpaper 19:10:24 muris: yep 19:11:27 Owen: but yeah, got any tips for this collab, I know all the minor pentatonic boxes in each key, I'm just unsure how to approach it 19:11:56 muris: try it in melodic sence 19:12:13 muris: not just running at fretboard 19:12:25 muris: cause many will run :) 19:12:57 Owen: :P well I'm going to have to go slow anyway, my fast playing is nowhere near as good as everyone elses 19:13:00 muris: I did a small lesson about it 19:13:05 muris: have you seen it? 19:13:11 Owen: so I guess it will have to be more melodically orientated 19:13:18 muris: sure 19:13:21 Owen: nope, whats the name/link? 19:13:23 muris: it's all about melody 19:13:27 muris: hmm 19:13:37 muris: it's in excercises 19:13:48 muris: pentatonic substituion 19:14:26 muris: http://www2.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-gui...esson/index.htm 19:14:40 Owen: ah yeah, I found it 19:15:06 muris: ok 19:16:05 Owen: so would different keys work with the one andrew posted, it doesnt have to strictly be just A minor? 19:16:32 muris: sory 19:16:34 muris: reconected 19:16:46 muris: you asked something? 19:16:50 Owen: ah, its ok, my pc does that all the time 19:17:02 Owen: so would different keys work with the one andrew posted, it doesnt have to strictly be just A minor? 19:17:14 muris: just look at my lesson 19:17:22 muris: I use 3 pentatonics 19:17:32 muris: cause they all fit in same minor scale 19:17:59 muris: same stuff with every key 19:19:23 Owen: k 19:19:53 Owen: I'm not a major theory buff at the moment, :P I need to stop being lazy and learn more :) 19:20:07 muris: what is the key in colab BT? 19:20:51 muris: ? 19:21:06 Owen: A minor I think... 19:21:15 muris: well then 19:21:22 muris: use same I did 19:21:33 muris: what is chord progression? 19:21:49 muris: wait 19:22:18 Owen: just says its an A minor progression, I cant tell by ear 19:22:54 muris: let me listen to it 19:22:58 muris: gait a sec 19:23:43 muris: ok :) 19:23:54 muris: this is a tricky 19:24:03 Owen: oh damn :P 19:24:25 muris: use A minor,B minor and E minor at the end of part 19:24:40 muris: but still keep it melodic 19:25:10 Owen: end of part? 19:26:09 muris: yeah 19:26:16 muris: like circle 19:26:24 muris: when chord is E 19:26:29 muris: can you hear it? 19:27:20 Owen: yeah 19:27:38 Owen: I think so... 19:27:47 muris: there you go :) 19:28:37 Owen: cool. this promises to be fun :P, now I just need to make sure i'm not getting loads of feedback :P 19:28:48 muris: ok :) 19:28:58 muris: I just aplied to play as well :) 19:30:34 Owen: I think its outta places 19:30:52 Nick325: hey 19:30:55 muris: yeah 19:30:57 muris: just saw 19:31:00 muris: crap :) 19:31:04 Owen: =/ shame 19:31:08 Owen: hey nick 19:31:12 Nick325: sup 19:31:37 Nick325: muris i like ur custom guitar 19:31:48 muris: hey nick 19:31:49 Owen: we were just talking about the collab stuff, + yeah its awesome isnt it 19:31:52 muris: hi and thanks :) 19:31:58 chast: hi :D 19:32:03 Owen: hey :) 19:32:04 muris: well hello 19:32:12 muris: looks like we are into party again 19:32:14 Nick325: muris is it build from scratch or parts 19:32:29 muris: hmm,guess parts 19:32:45 muris: what do you mean by scratch? 19:33:03 Nick325: like you start from nothing just like a blank piece of wood 19:33:15 muris: ohh yeah 19:33:26 muris: Mirza has real wood library 19:33:36 Nick325: ive been wanting to build my own for a little while 19:33:49 muris: so is it from parts? 19:33:57 muris: no? 19:34:16 Nick325: i didnt start it yet 19:34:25 muris: guys,my neglish sucks,need help here :) 19:34:43 Nick325: but i might build from scratch since my dad is good with woodworking 19:34:56 muris: so mine is from scratch? 19:34:57 Nick325: :) 19:35:13 Nick325: umm did you just start with a wood blank 19:35:16 muris: mean,we had just a piece of wood 19:35:26 Nick325: o ya i guess 19:35:29 muris: ok 19:35:31 muris: thanks :) 19:35:50 Nick325: i think its more fun to build from scratch instead of buying parts 19:36:06 Owen: hardwork tho 19:36:09 chast: did you build a guitar own your own so far? 19:36:10 muris: of course 19:36:10 Nick325: ya 19:36:17 chast: on 19:36:17 muris: this way iot's full custom 19:36:27 muris: not me 19:36:35 muris: friend of mine is working all the job 19:36:42 muris: he runs this custom shop 19:36:46 Nick325: me? no 19:36:55 chast: so you got it for free ? :D 19:36:56 Nick325: muris are they emg pickups on it 19:37:07 muris: no,Stan Hinesley custom shop 19:37:09 Nick325: i didnt build mine yet chast 19:37:11 Nick325: o 19:37:41 chast: i think im too goofy for building a guitar ^^ 19:37:49 Nick325: lol 19:37:53 muris: btw,he just sent me new pickups for Musicman Axis :) 19:38:00 Nick325: for free? 19:38:04 muris: yeah 19:38:10 Nick325: awsome 19:38:12 muris: I'm his endorser 19:38:21 Nick325: whats an endorser 19:38:24 chast: how do you get on with buying new pickups ? im scared if i should buy some new ones 19:38:28 muris: I promote him 19:38:34 Nick325: o 19:38:52 muris: and few other brands as well 19:39:10 muris: like light pick etc :) 19:39:29 chast: i also want to get things for free :p 19:39:43 Nick325: lucky 19:39:47 muris: well,play hard and you'll jhave it for sure 19:39:53 muris: no big mystey about it 19:40:03 Nick325: ya but you have a cd and you play live 19:40:10 muris: yeah 19:40:22 Nick325: lucky:| 19:40:23 muris: but i have all that cause I've been working hard righr? 19:40:30 Nick325: ya 19:40:35 muris: you see :) 19:40:47 Nick325: how long have you been playing 19:40:55 chast: where do you live ?^^ 19:40:58 muris: about 13-14 years 19:41:04 muris: I'm from Sarajevo 19:41:06 muris: Bosnia 19:41:09 Nick325: o ive been playing for 3 years 19:41:18 Nick325: i live on long island, new york 19:41:21 Nick325: usa 19:41:22 muris: great 19:41:28 muris: home of Satch :) 19:41:30 chast: im playing for 2,5 years now i thiknk 19:41:36 Nick325: ya 19:41:41 chast: im living in michelstadt, germany :/ 19:41:46 Nick325: my friend lives where he was born 19:41:49 chast: no music shop here^^ 19:41:51 Nick325: in westbury ny 19:41:55 muris: hey,we are \neighbours then :) 19:42:03 muris: mean,at least we're on same continets 19:42:04 muris: lol 19:42:08 chast: :D 19:42:21 Nick325: and im far away:( 19:42:42 Nick325: be right back 19:42:48 muris: ok 19:43:08 chast: hm, i hate sweeps :D 19:43:16 muris: lol 19:43:18 muris: why? 19:43:35 Owen: I cant sweep :P 19:43:39 Owen: yet... 19:43:44 chast: because i cant do pavels lesson completely xD 19:43:55 Owen: I looked at the beginner one 19:43:57 muris: http://murisvarajic.com/eng/index.php?opti...4&Itemid=48 19:44:02 Owen: and was like "wth?" 19:44:05 muris: check this one out :) 19:44:08 muris: you might like it 19:44:51 chast: oO 19:45:01 Owen: :P thats what I thought 19:45:02 Nick325: back 19:45:03 chast: too hard for me :D 19:45:16 muris: there's a tab 19:45:20 muris: just take it slow 19:45:23 chast: i can see 19:45:31 Nick325: im starting to get sweeping down its just the muting i need to work on 19:45:31 Owen: I cant get the muting, everything I do just rings out 19:45:35 chast: hey, some of you can transcribe me a small lick ? 19:45:46 Nick325: ok 19:45:48 Owen: when you do sweep picking are you fully muting or are you muting after you play? 19:45:56 muris: after 19:46:08 muris: or in real time 19:46:09 Owen: so your muting one string at a time at that speed? 19:46:16 muris: but that5;s not like palm muting 19:46:25 muris: just a slight touch on the strings 19:46:53 Nick325: do you mute the string you play just a little? 19:47:16 muris: enough to get them silenced,yeah 19:47:33 Nick325: even the string your playing 19:47:37 muris: not like real muting 19:47:46 Nick325: just slightly 19:47:47 Owen: what if your action is not level ? =S 19:48:07 muris: well,palm is not that shaped to mute G,avoid B and mute high E 19:48:09 muris: :) 19:48:13 chast: http://www.kram-hochladen.de/download.php?id=OTgzMDc= someone can transcribe me that one ? 19:49:17 Nick325: muris whats the latest lesson you made? 19:49:40 muris: economy picking I think 19:49:48 muris: chast,this is the lick 19:49:57 muris: take position on 12 fret 19:49:58 Nick325: o but which one will be up on gmc as a new lesson? 19:50:02 muris: e minor pentatonic 19:50:15 Nick325: like licks? 19:50:20 muris: yeah 19:50:23 chast: yeah muris 19:50:25 Nick325: awsome' 19:50:28 chast: i know but it cant get it 19:50:29 muris: I'm transcribing it for you now 19:50:32 Nick325: when will it be up 19:50:40 muris: bend G string on 14 fret 19:50:41 chast: thats only thing i know thats its on 12th fret :D 19:50:43 muris: whole tone 19:51:00 muris: then B string 12 fret 19:51:09 muris: E string 12 fret 19:51:18 muris: B string 15 and 12 fret 19:51:26 muris: and just loop it 19:51:34 chast: cool, thank you :) 19:51:39 muris: anytime :) 19:51:52 chast: do you think transcribing is important for guitarists? 19:51:59 muris: sure 19:52:09 muris: playing by ear is way too important 19:52:25 muris: you see 19:52:28 chast: i also think so but i only can get some powerchords^^ 19:52:41 muris: and don't have guitar in my hands at the moment 19:52:45 chast: or something like G, C, Am 19:52:45 muris: :) 19:53:27 muris: nick,you asked more about lesson? 19:53:36 Nick325: ya 19:53:41 Nick325: when will it be on gmc 19:54:16 Nick325: ur next lessons 19:54:20 Nick325: lesson* 19:54:42 muris: probably tomorrow night 19:54:49 Nick325: k cool cant wait 19:54:49 muris: was busy a lot lately 19:54:53 muris: ok :) 19:56:30 Nick325: *meow* 19:56:41 muris: lol 19:56:43 muris: hi cat 19:56:47 Owen: random lol 19:56:48 Nick325: hello muris 19:57:09 chast: we need a cow like kristofer did :D 19:57:15 Nick325: ya haha 19:57:33 Nick325: remmeber the "bad mother finger" 19:58:09 Owen: haha, that was funny :P 19:58:24 Owen: I liked his UG lesson where he was talking about sweep picking 19:58:31 Owen: then started saying what we could do with it 19:58:32 Nick325: o didnt see that one 19:58:33 Owen: and he goes 19:58:40 Owen: "Show it to your mooother" 19:58:46 muris: lol 19:58:48 Nick325: can you send me the link to it 19:58:55 Nick325: kris is funny 19:58:55 Owen: speed picking even* 19:59:22 muris: too funny :) 19:59:34 Owen: http://www.ultimate-guitar.tv/guitar_lesso...eedpicking.html 19:59:47 Owen: I think thats the one 20:00:00 Owen: its about a 1/3 of the way In I believe, although I could be wrong 20:00:35 Nick325: he has a fro lol 20:01:12 Owen: haha, I gtg sleep calls 20:01:20 Owen: talk to you later guys :P 20:01:22 Nick325: cya 20:01:23 muris: really great aproach to lesson :) 20:01:33 Owen: thanks for the advice muris! 20:01:50 Owen: I'll worry more about it tomorrow :D 20:01:59 Nick325: wat 20:02:02 Nick325: what* 20:02:10 Owen: the collaboration thingy :P 20:02:15 Nick325: o 20:02:41 Nick325: so 20:02:56 muris: bye 20:03:01 muris: he left 20:03:19 Nick325: so 20:03:48 Nick325: r u good at sweeping muris 20:04:06 muris: thanks :) 20:04:26 Nick325: i was asking if you were but i guess you are 20:04:38 Nick325: lol 20:04:40 muris: lol 20:05:24 muris: so sory I was busy last couple of weeks 20:05:34 muris: must make it upo to you guys 20:05:49 muris: I'm doing few cool lessons at the moment 20:05:59 muris: hope you'll like them :) 20:06:06 Nick325: ok 20:06:15 Nick325: what are they called 20:06:34 muris: well,one is about finger picking 20:06:39 Nick325: ok 20:06:48 muris: one is in style of,,cant tell the name :) 20:06:53 Nick325: y not 20:07:05 Nick325: please;) 20:07:06 chast: some suprise is fine :p 20:07:12 muris: and another one is funk st5uff 20:07:18 chast: yeah :> 20:07:21 muris: hard but still funk 20:07:26 chast: funk is great 20:07:31 Nick325: k kool i saw that it was requested 20:07:36 chast: yeah by me^^ 20:07:38 muris: yeh 20:07:40 Nick325: o 20:07:45 Nick325: lol 20:07:49 muris: that got me thinking and it's almost done 20:07:50 muris: :) 20:07:58 chast: great :D 20:08:05 muris: ;) 20:08:11 Nick325: cant you tell just tell me n chast who the in the style of is? ;) 20:08:26 chast: i dont know oO 20:08:29 muris: lol 20:08:35 muris: must wait guys 20:08:39 Nick325: please:D 20:08:46 chast: lol i really dont know it^^ 20:08:47 Nick325: ok fine :| 20:08:55 muris: ahh,it wont be a surprise then 20:09:26 Nick325: use ur custom guitar in one of your lessons when its done 20:10:08 muris: of course :) 20:10:14 Nick325: :D 20:10:17 muris: can't wait to get mu hands on it 20:10:39 Nick325: when will it be 20:10:42 chast: hm wasnt there a lesson about synchronising left and right hand ? 20:10:58 muris: every lesson is about sync I guess 20:11:22 Nick325: o ya 20:11:24 muris: more practicing will get you better sync 20:11:37 chast: i thought there was a lesson especially about sync 20:11:48 muris: doubt it 20:11:56 Nick325: no but there is 2 that helps me syncing 20:11:59 muris: cause it's not that specific stuff 20:12:08 muris: like picking,legato etc 20:12:23 Nick325: hand control lesson and string skipping help me 20:12:28 Nick325: when syncing 20:12:28 muris: yeah 20:12:41 muris: and look for ohter as well 20:12:54 muris: per exaplme my alternate picking lesson 20:12:58 chast: ah right that was hand control i was looking for 20:13:06 Nick325: ya 20:13:18 muris: just slow it down 20:16:13 chast: im fascinated about that transcribe without guitar oO 20:16:22 muris: ahh 20:16:25 muris: small job 20:16:39 muris: I'm doing it all the tim 20:16:45 muris: time* 20:16:57 chast: hm, when did you start transcribing without guitar? 20:17:09 muris: no idea 20:17:14 muris: i just hear it 20:17:20 muris: and I know what is it 20:17:33 muris: it comes with lots of listeninhg andf playing 20:17:48 muris: singing also helps a lot 20:17:59 muris: at least to me 20:19:21 chast: im happy if i get the chords of let it be :D 20:19:31 muris: that's cool tho 20:19:38 muris: must start with something 20:19:50 chast: yeah 20:19:53 chast: i like it also 20:20:01 muris: of course 20:20:04 muris: a great tune 20:20:04 chast: but pretty hard aht the beginning 20:20:08 chast: for me 20:20:19 muris: I know 20:20:34 chast: but my teacher always tells me "transcribing is soooooooo important" :D 20:20:34 Nick325: whats transcribing 20:20:38 muris: I was spending hours with my tape recorder 20:20:46 muris: rewind 20:20:55 muris: i broke about 10 of them 20:20:56 muris: lol 20:20:59 chast: :D 20:21:05 Nick325: whats trascribing? 20:21:07 chast: transcribing is hearing out the chords 20:21:10 chast: or the licks 20:21:13 Nick325: o 20:21:18 chast: solos whatever^^ 20:21:23 Nick325: ok 20:22:23 chast: you also should do it :D 20:22:37 Nick325: how does it help u 20:22:56 chast: hm, im having fun :p 20:23:01 chast: training your ear 20:23:06 Nick325: o 20:23:31 chast: muris you know some easy song for transcribing ? :o 20:23:40 muris: hmm 20:24:00 muris: i started with Metallica,Pink Floyd,Dire Straits 20:24:05 muris: Fade to Black? 20:24:16 chast: i already know that one^^ 20:24:28 chast: saw that lesson by kris on freelicks.net ;) 20:24:29 muris: welcome home? 20:24:40 muris: intro 20:25:11 chast: that pickingstuff ? 20:25:44 muris: think so 20:25:54 muris: but you can play it with fingers as well 20:26:32 Nick325: i have a question 20:27:06 Nick325: how do you come up with sweeps is it from scales? or something else 20:27:29 muris: sweeps are mostly arpeggios 20:27:45 muris: minor,major or some more complex stuff 20:27:48 Nick325: what are apreggios? (heard of them before) 20:27:59 muris: chord played note by note 20:28:07 muris: not like strumming 20:28:08 Nick325: o 20:28:33 Nick325: but pavels sweeping lessons arent chords 20:28:45 muris: link me? 20:28:53 Nick325: k 20:29:39 Nick325: http://guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/s...etude/index.htm 20:29:54 Nick325: http://guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/s...hapes/index.htm 20:30:20 AIB234: evening everyone 20:30:23 Nick325: hey 20:30:30 AIB234: how it going? 20:30:39 chast: allright so far 20:30:51 AIB234: that's good 20:31:18 AIB234: I think today is the day before I get sick and I'm having one of those guitar days where I feel like I can't play anything properly so I thought I'd kill my time in here instead. 20:31:39 Nick325: good choice 20:31:54 AIB234: haha. well it looks pretty... well, not so lively in here 20:32:14 Nick325: muris do you understand wat im saying 20:33:02 muris: first link is all about arpeggios 20:33:09 Nick325: really 20:33:09 muris: let me look at second 20:33:11 Nick325: o 20:33:19 Nick325: well where can i learn apreggios 20:33:33 AIB234: if you know chords you know arpeggios. 20:33:44 AIB234: arpeggios are just chords except you pick one note at a time 20:33:47 muris: same in second 20:33:50 muris: yeah 20:34:01 muris: it's chord but played note by ntoe 20:34:18 Nick325: well like in pavels sweep lessons how are those chords 20:34:19 AIB234: like when people do sweeps, they are playing arpeggios in most cases 20:34:43 muris: you must find notes of the chord 20:34:52 muris: mostly they are 3 inside 20:35:00 muris: root,3rd and 5th 20:35:31 muris: just take a better look at those lessons and replies as well 20:35:42 muris: you'll get in fast I'm sure 20:36:17 AIB234: chords are much easier to see with the 5 string and 6 string sweeps as opposed to the 3 string as well, nick 20:36:40 Nick325: ok well like if its a C-Major 5 String sweep starting at 15th fret wat chord is that 20:36:54 muris: C major 20:37:05 AIB234: It's a C. If you know that all the notes start over on the 12th fret, all you're doing is making a C Chord 20:37:21 muris: it's same grip as C major on first frets 20:37:24 AIB234: Bar the 12th fret on your guitar and then make a C chord with your other fingers. That's the shape. 20:37:41 muris: but in octave higher 20:37:48 AIB234: rgr 20:37:50 Nick325: ok i see it no 20:37:54 Nick325: now* 20:38:12 AIB234: And if I am correct... the 3 string sweeps are usually just a root, 3rd, and 5th 20:38:26 muris: yeah 20:38:26 AIB234: At least, for us just beginning to sweep :) 20:38:33 muris: almost every time 20:38:45 AIB234: So it's harder to see the shape because it's not normally what you play for the chord 20:38:49 Nick325: which notes are the 3rd and 5th if its a C-Major sweep 20:39:03 AIB234: C, E, G 20:39:05 muris: look at it as a C major chrodf 20:39:09 muris: nor C major sweep 20:39:20 muris: sweeping is just a technique 20:39:37 Nick325: ok then which notes are 3rd and 5th if its a c chord 20:39:45 muris: E and G 20:40:33 AIB234: and if you need to know why, you get to go read Andrew's theory lessons :P 20:40:43 Nick325: so if it was tabbed out just those it would be 3 fret a string 2 fret d string and 0 on g string 20:41:06 muris: yeah 20:41:25 muris: or 15 on A,14 on D and 12 on G 20:41:32 muris: octave higher 20:41:58 Nick325: ok but arent 3 string sweeps usually on the top 3 string 20:42:09 muris: that;s not the case 20:42:18 muris: you cab play any strings you want 20:42:32 Nick325: o 20:42:33 muris: they just CANT send you to jail 20:42:36 muris: :) 20:42:54 AIB234: It's easier to start on the higher strings 20:43:05 muris: agree 20:43:12 AIB234: Playing sweeps cleanly is hard enough on those strings let alone having others to worry about when you play in the middle 20:43:12 Nick325: lol 20:44:30 Nick325: muris would you mind making a lesson on this cause im sure other ppl would find this helpful and help me to 20:44:46 muris: lesson in sweeping? 20:45:01 Nick325: or like theory of sweeping like what i was asking 20:45:34 muris: there's no much theory about it 20:45:37 muris: only one 20:45:42 muris: said a million times 20:45:45 Nick325: ok nvm 20:45:50 muris: less talk,more practicing 20:45:54 muris: lol 20:45:57 AIB234: rofl 20:46:18 muris: but I can make one 20:46:20 muris: no worries 20:46:29 Nick325: :( im just like bad at that stuff 20:46:36 muris: it's just that you have many lessons that cover this topic already 20:49:53 chast: do you like jack johnson ?^^ 20:50:13 muris: never heard of him,must admit 20:50:22 chast: hm, i like him 20:50:28 chast: some music to chill on 20:51:24 Nick325: the reason i was asking was becuase i was wondering how you come up with sweeps 20:51:36 muris: just practicing 20:51:38 muris: realy 20:51:50 muris: listening to guys like Malmsteen,Gilbert etc 20:51:59 muris: and practicing a lot 20:52:45 AIB234: I must ask... doesn 20:53:02 AIB234: 't that ever get boring to listen to? I mean, I like it, but I can't sit and listen to a whole album 20:53:24 muris: used to listen to it 20:53:32 muris: when I was hard metal head 20:53:34 muris: :) 20:53:37 AIB234: haha 20:53:53 AIB234: I really appreciate their technique and style... but to me I find it's get quite mundayne 20:54:10 muris: tastes are different again 20:54:54 chast: http://www.ultimate-guitar.tv/guitar_lesso...ep_picking.html here is another lesson for sweep picking 20:55:10 muris: I'll take some sleep guys 20:55:15 AIB234: night muris 20:55:18 muris: have a great rest of the chat tho :0 20:55:21 muris: see ya soon 20:55:24 chast: good night 20:55:27 muris: night 20:55:28 muris: bye 20:56:01 Nick325: thanks chast 20:56:43 chast: that was the first lesson i saw about sweep picking^^ 20:57:01 Nick325: i saw that one on youtube 20:57:07 Nick325: ive been practicing 20:57:13 Nick325: it 20:57:39 chast: allright^^ 20:57:45 chast: but sweeping is hard 20:57:59 Nick325: AIB234 i like that technique u came up for hearing notes 20:58:16 Nick325: ya dude 20:58:32 Nick325: i gtg to ttyl 20:58:44 AIB234: haha 20:58:50 AIB234: I didn't come up with it but thanks ;) 20:58:54 chast: well, now we are alone :D 20:59:00 chast: what was he talking about ? 20:59:04 AIB234: what's that supposed to mean? ;) 20:59:10 chast: ;D 20:59:14 AIB234: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=5715 20:59:29 chast: ah 20:59:40 chast: i already read this 21:00:37 chast: im gonna try it if im a bit more motivated than today 21:00:47 AIB234: haha yeah I'm not too motivated today 21:00:54 AIB234: not feeling overly well and things on my guitar aren't going so well 21:01:21 chast: i just dont want to play today, i dont know why 21:02:13 chast: so what do you do right now besides chatting ß?^^ 21:02:41 AIB234: I have my guitar in my hands and I'm just dinking around with scale fragments while thinking about what I should do, haha! What about you? 21:03:25 chast: played some warcraft before, tried to practice guitar but i have no fun on playing it today, and now im listening to jack johnson and somking 21:04:00 AIB234: haha 21:04:02 chast: and pavel makes me crazy with his sweeping^^ 21:04:03 AIB234: Smoking, tsk tsk 21:04:14 chast: i know, i know ;) 21:04:17 AIB234: Pavel makes me crazy with sweeping, AP, and legato 21:04:18 AIB234: haha 21:04:22 chast: yes^^ 21:04:40 chast: im practicing his luca turili style of lesson 21:05:04 chast: this sweep wont work :/ 21:06:23 chast: where do you live ?^^ 21:06:37 AIB234: ontario, canada 21:06:38 AIB234: how's about you? 21:06:49 chast: germany 21:06:56 AIB234: far away from me! 21:06:58 chast: one hour from frankfurt am main 21:07:06 chast: in a small town called michelstadt 21:07:16 AIB234: cool\ 21:07:29 chast: we have no music shop here :( 21:07:36 AIB234: Nor in my town 21:07:44 chast: we had one but only for 2 or 3 weeks x_X 21:07:51 chast: than he has gone away 21:08:01 AIB234: that's too bad 21:08:11 chast: in frankfurt is a big one but i dont get there often 21:08:25 chast: no car^^ 21:08:32 AIB234: :\ 21:08:48 chast: gmc is very international i like it 21:09:06 AIB234: yeah definitely 21:09:31 chast: a good possibilty to improve my english :) 21:09:35 AIB234: haha 21:09:41 AIB234: it's quite good as far as I can tell 21:09:51 chast: thanks^^ 21:09:55 chast: what time is it now in canada? 21:10:05 AIB234: 9pm 21:10:16 chast: we have 3 o'clock in the night 21:10:22 AIB234: pretty late! 21:10:24 chast: i have holidays at the moment 21:10:25 chast: :D 21:10:27 AIB234: nice 21:10:34 AIB234: I have to work tomorrow... but I believe I am getting sick 21:10:40 AIB234: :\ 21:10:45 chast: hm, that sucks 21:10:49 AIB234: yeah 21:10:59 AIB234: but at least I might get a day off work and play some guitar ;D 21:11:02 chast: what do you work ? 21:11:09 chast: hehe, thats fine =) 21:11:12 AIB234: I am a computer engineer for a university 21:11:26 chast: everywhere some computer engineers at gmc :D 21:11:35 AIB234: yeah :) 21:11:41 chast: im going to school^^ 21:11:57 AIB234: Me too. What are you going for? 21:12:21 chast: 11th grade in germany at "gymnasium" what its called in germany 21:12:34 AIB234: ah 21:12:41 AIB234: I am going into my second year of college 21:12:58 chast: i dont know that system, its always confusing me 21:13:03 AIB234: hehe 21:13:06 chast: you finished high school ? 21:13:11 AIB234: Yes 21:13:16 AIB234: 2nd year above high school 21:13:23 chast: ah 21:13:29 AIB234: Kind of like grade 14, except for computers :P 21:13:36 chast: :> 21:13:59 chast: i have school till 13th grade and than i can go to university 21:14:09 chast: or work ^^ 21:14:17 AIB234: We used to have Grade 13, but then it was eliminated 21:14:35 chast: yeah, it is the same here, its going to be eliminated 21:14:54 chast: but i dont know when they will eliminate it 21:15:07 AIB234: We did not have to do ours, we had a choice 21:15:09 AIB234: Do you have to do it? 21:15:21 chast: yes 21:15:23 AIB234: That sucks 21:15:31 chast: there is a test 21:15:35 chast: called g8 zug 21:15:42 AIB234: weird 21:15:57 chast: where you finish in 8 years instead of 9 21:16:06 AIB234: yeah 21:16:12 chast: probably in 2 years or something everybody finishes with 8 years 21:16:23 chast: but i have to do 9 :D 21:16:31 AIB234: I'm glad I didn't have to! 21:16:40 chast: you dont like school ? :P 21:16:42 AIB234: Got to move away from home a year earlier :P 21:16:56 AIB234: Not high school. I like college a lot. 21:17:21 chast: i dont like it... but i always having troubles reaching the next grade because im too lazy ;) 21:17:25 AIB234: hahaha 21:17:28 chast: but = because^^ 21:18:01 AIB234: I am lucky. I have a really good memory and I don't study much, but I get really good grades. 21:18:25 chast: my memories arent bad at all but at some courses i just suck 21:18:30 chast: like french 21:18:38 chast: or chemistry 21:18:46 AIB234: I had to take french in grade 9 and then I didn't take it again lol 21:18:48 AIB234: I hated it 21:18:53 chast: i hate it :D 21:19:02 chast: but i have it now my last year 21:19:06 AIB234: Did you not have options to choose what ot take? 21:19:25 chast: we had to take a 2nd foreign language 21:19:34 AIB234: In my last year the only course I HAD to take was English 21:19:43 chast: we could choose between latin and french 21:19:45 AIB234: I chose all my other 7 courses 21:20:10 chast: we got completely different system^^ 21:20:14 chast: s 21:20:16 AIB234: Yeah it sound like it 21:21:00 chast: so you can chose your courses, nothing you else you have to take than english? 21:21:06 AIB234: Only in my last year 21:21:25 AIB234: I had to take some other courses in earlier years, but you get more options as you go higher in grades 21:21:33 chast: after 11th grade we can choose 2 courses we want to have intensive 21:21:42 AIB234: Wow, that's not too many options 21:21:51 chast: and you can cancel shit like french :D 21:22:08 chast: no we dont have many options :/ 21:22:19 AIB234: hehe 21:22:24 chast: but it isnt that bad 21:22:29 AIB234: And it's funny because Canada's second language is French :P 21:22:33 chast: ^^ 21:22:46 chast: i just dont understand that language 21:22:52 AIB234: either do i, LOL 21:23:03 AIB234: In fact I don't understand any other language 21:23:14 AIB234: I know a bit of French... but not much. Not enough to get me by. 21:23:26 chast: i can order beer in france 21:23:29 chast: thats enough :D 21:23:57 chast: you have some favourite courses? 21:25:09 AIB234: hahaha 21:25:22 AIB234: I do not know what my courses are like for this year. I am on a work term. 21:25:37 AIB234: But last year I liked almost all my courses quite a bit. 21:25:45 chast: do you like math ?:D 21:26:01 AIB234: Not overly. I am quite good at it but I don't enjoy it much. 21:26:11 chast: i like it 21:26:20 AIB234: To each his own I suppose :P 21:26:33 chast: and physic if you talk about the right topic 21:26:44 chast: this year was really boring 21:26:48 AIB234: haha 21:26:53 AIB234: I took calculus in high school 21:26:58 AIB234: It's pretty amazing all the things you can do with it 21:27:12 chast: yes 21:27:19 chast: but its kinda weird 21:27:27 AIB234: But yet it all makes perfect sense 21:28:07 chast: the only topic i cant handle at math is geometry 21:28:25 chast: that has something to do with me :D 21:28:30 chast: i also cant draw 21:28:36 AIB234: I can't draw worth crap 21:28:42 chast: and my sense of orientation is shit 21:29:04 chast: i also cant 21:29:11 AIB234: haha 21:29:27 chast: got a 4 this year, which is a D 21:29:34 AIB234: ooho 21:29:37 AIB234: not so good 21:29:41 chast: but my teacher told me it was quite far away from an E 21:29:49 chast: wasnt 21:29:50 chast: ^^ 21:29:55 AIB234: E does not exist over here :) 21:30:10 chast: you only have A to E ? 21:30:22 chast: D 21:30:24 chast: ^^ 21:30:37 AIB234: A-D and then F 21:30:39 AIB234: lol 21:30:43 chast: we got 1-6 21:30:47 chast: 1 is the best 21:31:04 AIB234: Understandably so 21:31:20 chast: you also can get a 4+ 21:31:22 chast: or 4- 21:31:30 AIB234: In elementary school we had levels like that 21:31:32 chast: good 4 or bad one :D 21:31:37 AIB234: Then in highschool we got percentages 21:31:45 AIB234: and now in college I get Grade Point Average, or GPA 21:31:52 chast: but in 11th grade it changes to anonter system 21:32:00 chast: with points from 0 to 15 21:32:22 AIB234: I don't understand why they just can't stick to 1 system 21:32:26 AIB234: Especially over here 21:32:27 chast: me too 21:32:37 AIB234: Because all the systems relate to percents. Just give me a grade out of 100 21:32:49 chast: i dont understand why they change the system after 10 years of school oO 21:32:53 AIB234: yeah 21:32:55 AIB234: Like over here 21:33:03 AIB234: A level 4 = 80% or above 21:33:17 AIB234: a grade of A = 80% or above 21:33:25 AIB234: and in GPA, 4.0 = 80 or above 21:33:28 chast: i like this system more with the points, they should do it from beginning 21:33:30 AIB234: So just stick to percents, I think 21:33:59 chast: thats weird 21:34:06 AIB234: lol 21:34:06 AIB234: it's silly 21:34:09 chast: yes^^ 21:34:24 chast: how old are you ? 21:34:40 AIB234: 19 21:34:45 chast: im 18 21:34:57 AIB234: cool 21:35:21 chast: with 18 you get full rights in germany 21:35:29 chast: voting in politics etc. 21:35:37 AIB234: In Canada you get weird rights at dfifferent ages 21:35:38 chast: drinking vodka :D 21:35:43 AIB234: 16 you can drive 21:35:56 AIB234: 18 you can vote and you are considered an adult 21:36:01 AIB234: 19 you can drink 21:36:04 AIB234: *shrug* 21:36:05 chast: in germany you can drive with 18 but they are on a way to change it to 17 21:36:41 AIB234: cool 21:36:44 chast: yes here it is the same with 18 you are considered an adult 21:36:55 chast: beer you can drink with 16 21:37:03 chast: but only beer 21:37:04 AIB234: haha 21:37:09 AIB234: that's stupid 21:37:14 chast: and with 18 all the other stuff^^ 21:37:25 chast: but many kids under 16 are drunken here 21:37:43 AIB234: same here 21:38:00 chast: its no problem to get some alcohol here 21:38:17 chast: its also a problem in politics 21:38:30 AIB234: It's not hard to get alcohol here underage either 21:38:45 AIB234: They always ask for ID at the store, but that's not too hard to get arouhd when you have 19 year old friends 21:39:57 chast: same here 21:40:06 chast: or they dont even ask for ID sometimes 21:40:14 AIB234: haha 21:40:26 AIB234: I don't drink so it does not bother me :) 21:40:33 chast: i like drinking :D 21:40:43 AIB234: I have, but I don't enjoy that much 21:40:49 AIB234: Though I do enjoy laughing at drunk people 21:41:00 chast: :D 21:41:21 chast: drunk people can pretty funny as long as they dont get aggressive 21:41:27 AIB234: yeah 21:41:30 AIB234: that's bad news bears 21:42:03 chast: when im drunken i just talk much^^ 21:43:15 chast: how much do you pay for beer ? 21:44:38 AIB234: sorry I am back 21:44:43 AIB234: Don't know, I don't buy it 21:44:55 AIB234: Though I know some of it sells for $24CDN for 24 cans 21:45:29 chast: whats this in us $ ? 21:45:35 AIB234: About the same nowadays 21:45:42 AIB234: The Canadian Dollar is on par with the US one 21:45:48 chast: ah okay 21:46:35 chast: so im going to read now and than i will sleep 21:46:42 chast: good night =) 21:46:42 AIB234: alright man good chatting with you 21:46:50 AIB234: cheers |
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