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Posted by: sted Jun 3 2009, 01:29 PM

just wondering if this is worth investing in? any thoughts?

Posted by: audiopaal Jun 3 2009, 02:22 PM

I think it's very good actually

I could post a few samples for you tomorrow if you want?
I got it, and some of the presets(!) are very good!

And if you tweak.. *mmmm*

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 3 2009, 02:24 PM

It definitely is. I started using it as soon as it was out, and it definitely models the best cleans and crunch sounds out there. It doesn't have any distortion pedals, only fuzz, but there are other third party VST plugs that I've found useful as distortion, like Tubescreamer's Secret, which is awesome replica of TS808 tone.
Very much worth the buy if you ask me, way better than GR3 as far as Fender clean and crunch goes.

Posted by: audiopaal Jun 3 2009, 02:46 PM

Yeah, it got the best cleans for a VST Plug-In, no doubt
Although the best crunch sounds comes from the http://softube.com/vintage_amp_room.php in my opinion
But the Fender Amplitube comes very close!

Have you tried it Ivan? It's awesome

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 3 2009, 04:09 PM

I've tested it, but I'm not sure if it is better than AF. There is nothing in it that cannot be achieved with AF as well. It's got a nice crunch but very little features, cannot be compared to full sized software like AF IMO.

Posted by: audiopaal Jun 3 2009, 04:19 PM

All the microphone placements cannot be achieved by AF, but it's a much simpler design.
It's designed to be like a miced up amp, with a few specific amps and does that REALLY well in my opinion

Posted by: sted Jun 3 2009, 07:22 PM

That would be great mate if you could, the You Tube demo's arent that great, is it available as a download?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 3 2009, 10:31 PM

Mic placement is more flexible in VAR, but AF has 12 different cabinets and 9 microphones to choose from. Add the Off/On axis, and Far/Near option, very good air control, and other features like dual stomps/amp/cab/racks mode for stereo output, and other stuff, I think it's reasonable enough to say that it is a better choice. The price of VAR is 300$ and AF 200$, and I don't feel that VAR is worth it to be honest. It is a good plug no mistakes there, but just not good enough for the money if you ask me.

Posted by: audiopaal Jun 3 2009, 10:46 PM

I obviously disagree with you, hehe..
I got them both for a reason, they can both do things the other can't.
VAR does some things better than AF and vice versa, so I believe it's worth the money

I couldn't do without it to be honest, some of the crunch sounds are the best out there (plug-ins) imo..

But of course, AF is much more versatile overall, and you can more sounds out of it plus some greater cleans and more control

Posted by: ItsMe Jun 3 2009, 10:55 PM

I think you should check Revalver MKIII. Better clean and cruch sound imo than both competitors. Needs allot more tweaking though. Sounds awefull right out off the box. But then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu2xW-CXz04&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljzYURqev2s

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 3 2009, 11:27 PM

Do you actually need VAR just for crunch? If you use them both why not transferring to AF completely, I'm sure you can make AF sound better than VAR regarding any kind of sound that it has to offer, you just need to tweak it around a bit.

Posted by: audiopaal Jun 3 2009, 11:31 PM

Well, I use them both when I'm double tracking, sounds great

Posted by: sted Jun 4 2009, 09:57 AM

I dowloaded the demo pack last night for AF, had a few problems with it. Really bad latency was first thing I noticed, dont know if this just needs a tweak on the settings. The background noise from the amp models was the worst thing though, I know its meant to be authentic valve tone but this was horrendous, again could be settings but not had this problem with other modelling software.
The amp range looks great, bit disappointed with the lack of stomps but you did point that out. anyway i'll play with it for the next 10 days and see how it pans out.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 4 2009, 10:09 AM

You need a good audio interface and a solid computer to run AF, what do you use?

Posted by: sted Jun 4 2009, 10:16 AM

All through my Toneport UX2, then into my new fostex powered monitors. PC has a 3800+ amd processor and 2GB corsair RAM.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 6 2009, 11:27 PM

Try to lower down the resolution in preferences (down left corner of AF)