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Posted by: Finny Jul 9 2011, 10:45 PM

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Riff_Master_II-Melodic_Death_Metal/

Hi.

About 20 seconds into this when the drum beat changes I constantly get thrown out of the beat. I'm not even able to play it with the slowest backingtrack. Can someone tell me if the riff changes a bit at that point? It sounds like hit the low E an extra 2-3 times like this:( But it doesnt add up...?)

D#||-------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------------|
A#||-------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------------|
F#||-------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------------|
C#||-------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------------|
G#||-------------------|--------7--8-----5-----7---|-----8-----10-----12-----7-|-----5-----7-----8-----7---|
D#||-------------------|--000---0----0-----0------|--0-----0------0------0-----|--0-----0-----0-----0-----|


(EDIT: This adds up,and sounds close but a bit weird...)
D#||-------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|--------------------------|
A#||-------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|--------------------------|
F#||-------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|--------------------------|
C#||-------------------|-----------------------------|----------------------------|--------------------------|
G#||-------------------|--------7---8------5-------|--7-----8-----10-----12---|-----7-----5-----7-----8--|
D#||-------------------|--0--0---0----0------0---|-----0------0------0--------|--0-----0-----0-----0-----|

instead of the beginning when he plays like this:

D#||-------------------|----------------------------|-------------------------------|----------------------------|
A#||-------------------|----------------------------|-------------------------------|----------------------------|
F#||-------------------|----------------------------|-------------------------------|----------------------------|
C#||-------------------|----------------------------|-------------------------------|----------------------------|
G#||-------------------|-----7-----8-----5-----7--|-----8-----10-----12-----7--|-----5-----7-----8-----7--|
D#||-------------------|--0-----0-----0-----0-----| --0-----0------0------0-----|--0-----0-----0-----0-----|


But i just cant figure out what happends there that adds up..Would be nice if someone could help me out!

Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 10 2011, 11:21 AM

Hi Finny, I've had a listen to where the drums change at 0:21 and Lian plays the same riff. Just one open E string like the rest. What is confusing you is the change of beat, plus the extra double kick patterns in the drums probably.

It still has a count of 1,2,3,4 - 1,2,3,4.

What is changing is the accent of the snare drum, but the pace of the riff stays the same. Try listening again and imagine a metronome clicking away with the drums, going 1,2,3,4 - 1,2,3,4 all the way through.

The first beat is a typical thrash rhythm, where the snare falls on the 'offbeat' between 1 & 2.
The second beat is more straightforward with the snare falling on the 2.

I hope that makes sense ?

Posted by: Finny Jul 11 2011, 07:20 PM

Yeah spot on on man!
It was the accent of the snare drum that was throwing me off.

Thanks a lot:)

Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 11 2011, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Finny @ Jul 11 2011, 07:20 PM)