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jer View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 05:59 PM
Dec 20 2008, 05:59 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	So I got a new computer. Intel quad core 4GB ram Vista 64. I'm just having too many Vista issues/incompatabilities and I'm considering going back to XP Pro. I imagine I'll see a performance increase even though I'm going back to a 32bit OS. Thoughts? 32bit XP Pro vs 64bit Vista with this hardware. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

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valentino View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 06:07 PM
Dec 20 2008, 06:07 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 24-September 08 From: Madrid, Spain	I think all people using Vista are beta testers of a crappy OS. I got a new computer 6 months ago and my first action was, search all driver for XP and then install XP. I think that was the smartest movement I did. I don't mind about 64 bits or 32, it's just XP or Vista, so, my opinion is XP. BTW there is a XP 64 aswell, so if you want to use your 64bit processor you don't need to use Vista if you don't want. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- If somebody finds a slice of finger call me please, surely is mine

jer View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 06:42 PM
Dec 20 2008, 06:42 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	I dont know that 64bit XP is the way to go either. It'd be like a half step back to good. I guess my biggest question is how much of the quad core processor is wasted in XP 32? And how much of the ram is wasted there as well? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Pedja Simovic View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 07:19 PM
Dec 20 2008, 07:19 PM	Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia	QUOTE (jer @ Dec 20 2008, 06:42 PM) I dont know that 64bit XP is the way to go either. It'd be like a half step back to good. I guess my biggest question is how much of the quad core processor is wasted in XP 32? And how much of the ram is wasted there as well? I heard 3 gbs of ram is wasted on 32 bit XP - max! I am getting new computer with same specs as yours so I was asking around a week ago about everything. Its better to stick with XP in my opinion You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Video Lessons

skennington View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 07:32 PM
Dec 20 2008, 07:32 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	Same issues here. I have a quad core machine with 3gb of ram and 32 bit Vista. The most trouble I'm having is with IE. It crashes a lot! I seem to have found the issue but not the solution Seems McAfee and Vista don't like each other much. McApbho.dll is said to be the culprit, which is part of the anti-spam. I've shut it off but doesn't help. I'm thinking about removing it all together.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

lcsdds View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 07:36 PM
Dec 20 2008, 07:36 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	Everybody should just switch to a Mac!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

jer View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 08:14 PM
Dec 20 2008, 08:14 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	its a variety of stuff. Little vista quirks here and there. I have all updates nd all new 64bit drivers. Sound is one issue. I have an EMU 1212m card with Vista drivers and it gets all kinds of static whenever there is network traffic. UNACCEPTABLE. MS knows about this too. Its a documented vista issue. Lack of support for lots of apps too. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

opeth.db View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 08:22 PM
Dec 20 2008, 08:22 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	Another prpblem too Jer is that 4gig of ram is not enough if your moving to 64 bit O/s. Its esentially like having 1 gig in an XP machine. I went back to Xp abount a month ago. Ya know...everything just works in XP. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

Pedja Simovic View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 08:31 PM
Dec 20 2008, 08:31 PM	Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Dec 20 2008, 08:22 PM) Another prpblem too Jer is that 4gig of ram is not enough if your moving to 64 bit O/s. Its esentially like having 1 gig in an XP machine. I went back to Xp abount a month ago. Ya know...everything just works in XP. Wise advice coming from you You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Video Lessons

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 08:39 PM
Dec 20 2008, 08:39 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Well if you can't run favorite software and/or hardware you use , on Vista 64bit I would recommend going back to XP...You will definitely see the improvement in performance any way... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

jer View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 10:13 PM
Dec 20 2008, 10:13 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	The machine came with 4GB of ram and Vista 64. It seems to run fine as far as overall speed. But yeah, screw it. XP here I come. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Fran View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 11:09 PM
Dec 20 2008, 11:09 PM	Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator Posts: 8.451 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Spain	What's the advantage of 64 bit vista? My girlfriend is going to give me a new laptop with vista 32bit and 2 GB of ram this Christmas. I'm not fond of vista but being a laptop designed for vista I guess I'll use it. Anyway it will be a huge improvement over my XP with 512 Ram current laptop You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC

jer View Member Profile	Dec 20 2008, 11:23 PM
Dec 20 2008, 11:23 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	Thats a great question Fran. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Dec 21 2008, 12:09 AM
Dec 21 2008, 12:09 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	You can run Vista but it is not recommended if you are used to XP and it's apps. I think Vista is worth the try but be prepared for some minor sacrifices with software and drivers. Some things just won't work. If you go with Vista i advise you really take some time to investigate if every software and driver you use will work with it. If you see that there is a number of drivers&software that is unsupported - forget it and stick to XP for now, at least till the end of 2009 when XP will really be old OS. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

jer View Member Profile	Dec 21 2008, 12:13 AM
Dec 21 2008, 12:13 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	I'm not going to Vista. I started with Vista and am now moving to XP. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

opeth.db View Member Profile	Dec 21 2008, 12:27 AM
Dec 21 2008, 12:27 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	QUOTE (jer @ Dec 20 2008, 06:13 PM) I'm not going to Vista. I started with Vista and am now moving to XP. Good choice. I have been playing with Vista for a while and have to start to roll it out soon where I work for some customers of mine. Its ok. I think its fine for the average user. Surfing the net, writing a resume, or playing a game but getting into some stuff that we do here. Recording, Mixing, playing with different tyoe audio drivers(WDM,ASIO) I have to conclude that Vista is just not stable in those areas yet. I wonder for the hardcore video producer what he thinks. Im sticking to XP for now. But...remember XP ran like garbage at first. It only runs great now 3 service packs and 30+ updates later. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

jer View Member Profile	Dec 21 2008, 12:38 AM
Dec 21 2008, 12:38 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	The biggest problem for me is sound. If I have music playing and browse the web I get static. I'm getting audio dropouts in Sonar I never got before.... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Skewlbuzz View Member Profile	Dec 21 2008, 11:52 AM
Dec 21 2008, 11:52 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 295 Joined: 14-July 07 From: Copenhagen, Denmark	Sounds weird.. I've run Vista 64bit for a year now and I haven't had any problems really.. You sure you've updated everything, OS, drivers for your hardware, your software? I know there was a lot of compatibility issues back when it was released. There still is some I guess, but that's due to 64bit and not Vista.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard 2008 Fender Squier '51 --------------------- Amp(like): Blackstar Series One 45 Line6 POD Studio UX1 Marshall MG15CDR --------------------- Effects: Dunlop Crybaby 535Q DigiTech Whammy Z.Vex Fuzz Factory Dunlop MXR Carbon Copy

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