Hybrid Picking Dilemma!
ConnorGilks
Dec 30 2012, 03:18 AM
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Well, I suppose it's not a dilemma by definition... but I'm having trouble deciding on something. Let me explain...

For the past few years I had worked hybrid picking into my playing quite naturally over time (never really practiced it, just got quite good at it quite quick while goofing around), and I do pull it out on occasion to pull off some cool/unique licks or just to get a certain sound.

I feel like there's a lot more cool stuff I can do with it when it comes to licks and unique approaches to the guitar, but the reason I don't use it more is because I don't like the sound. Now, I do use hybrid picking because I feel that twang and aggression is necessary sometimes, so that's when I use it of course. But on the other hand I see guys like Brett Garsed, Guthrie Govan and Marshall Harrison that have amazing hybrid picking technique, where you don't get the twang, it's just a very soft attack.

Now of course I know it's partly the tone they use, but it's mostly technique from what I've heard from Harrison and Garsed. So here's my question, do I practice both types of hybrid picking where all the notes are uniform (same volume and attack, without the twang) and the aggressive country style hybrid picking, or should I just use a pick for the licks where I want an even sound? It's a bit tougher, but it's a much more even tone if I use a pick. It just requires more dexterity with my picking hand when it comes to playing the same licks.

Thoughts?

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Ben Higgins
Dec 30 2012, 11:27 AM
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Well, I'm a great believer in the answer always lies in the question.

If I asked myself that question, it would prompt me to ask 'Well, what do I want it to sound like, not what should I sound like ?'

What sound do you prefer, Connor ? You're allowed to do whatever you want with the guitar, however you want to. Cut through all extraneous temptation of techniques and cut right through to the sounds that truly speak to you. Therein lies your answer. smile.gif

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QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Dec 30 2012, 02:18 AM) *
Well, I suppose it's not a dilemma by definition... but I'm having trouble deciding on something. Let me explain...

For the past few years I had worked hybrid picking into my playing quite naturally over time (never really practiced it, just got quite good at it quite quick while goofing around), and I do pull it out on occasion to pull off some cool/unique licks or just to get a certain sound.

I feel like there's a lot more cool stuff I can do with it when it comes to licks and unique approaches to the guitar, but the reason I don't use it more is because I don't like the sound. Now, I do use hybrid picking because I feel that twang and aggression is necessary sometimes, so that's when I use it of course. But on the other hand I see guys like Brett Garsed, Guthrie Govan and Marshall Harrison that have amazing hybrid picking technique, where you don't get the twang, it's just a very soft attack.

Now of course I know it's partly the tone they use, but it's mostly technique from what I've heard from Harrison and Garsed. So here's my question, do I practice both types of hybrid picking where all the notes are uniform (same volume and attack, without the twang) and the aggressive country style hybrid picking, or should I just use a pick for the licks where I want an even sound? It's a bit tougher, but it's a much more even tone if I use a pick. It just requires more dexterity with my picking hand when it comes to playing the same licks.

Thoughts?


I have the exact question as you do tongue.gif to myself and I also found the answer - to each situation, a specific solution smile.gif Use the pick when needed and use hybrid/ chicken pickin' where needed. In the end, it all comes down to what you want to obtain from your instrument in respect to the musical context where you are at that certain point wink.gif That's my approach smile.gif

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ConnorGilks
Jan 1 2013, 03:31 AM
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See, it's not so much the sound... because I'm just trying to achieve a sound similar to my pick when hybrid picking, without the twang. I think it's more of "Do I want to put in the effort to play licks slightly easier by hybrid picking them softly, or do I want to do a bit more work and use my pick for those licks which will give me perfectly consistent tone, but make leaps harder.

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Jan 1 2013, 02:31 AM) *
See, it's not so much the sound... because I'm just trying to achieve a sound similar to my pick when hybrid picking, without the twang. I think it's more of "Do I want to put in the effort to play licks slightly easier by hybrid picking them softly, or do I want to do a bit more work and use my pick for those licks which will give me perfectly consistent tone, but make leaps harder.


If you want the picking sound, well, buddy get to work and practice those big leaps using your pick only! smile.gif

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I agree with the last Cosmin sentence. If you want to sound like a pick when you use your fingers, the only reason why you would use it is when you want to play to play 2 or more separated strings at the same time (for example a triad using strings 5 - 2 and 1).

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QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Dec 30 2012, 02:18 AM) *
Well, I suppose it's not a dilemma by definition... but I'm having trouble deciding on something. Let me explain...

For the past few years I had worked hybrid picking into my playing quite naturally over time (never really practiced it, just got quite good at it quite quick while goofing around), and I do pull it out on occasion to pull off some cool/unique licks or just to get a certain sound.

I feel like there's a lot more cool stuff I can do with it when it comes to licks and unique approaches to the guitar, but the reason I don't use it more is because I don't like the sound. Now, I do use hybrid picking because I feel that twang and aggression is necessary sometimes, so that's when I use it of course. But on the other hand I see guys like Brett Garsed, Guthrie Govan and Marshall Harrison that have amazing hybrid picking technique, where you don't get the twang, it's just a very soft attack.

Now of course I know it's partly the tone they use, but it's mostly technique from what I've heard from Harrison and Garsed. So here's my question, do I practice both types of hybrid picking where all the notes are uniform (same volume and attack, without the twang) and the aggressive country style hybrid picking, or should I just use a pick for the licks where I want an even sound? It's a bit tougher, but it's a much more even tone if I use a pick. It just requires more dexterity with my picking hand when it comes to playing the same licks.

Thoughts?


Originally the guitar was played with the fingers, not with the pick. The electric guitar and modern techniques have changed that. But I think the pure music, classical, acoustic, no amps, is the most human sounding. I think using the hybrid picking give our instrument achieves a more human expression. I use it almost always helps me feel closer to my guitar, more in touch with her. How do you play it? As you want. When should you use it? When you feel like. The important thing is to get a personal sound of the guitar at all times. No rules, feel free to do so or not.

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ConnorGilks
Jan 2 2013, 02:21 AM
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Sorry, I should rephrase... it's more of a "uniform/legato" sound I'm going for than the sound of my pick.

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Jan 2 2013, 01:21 AM) *
Sorry, I should rephrase... it's more of a "uniform/legato" sound I'm going for than the sound of my pick.



Than the answer lies in hybrid picking, does it not? smile.gif

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