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post Jun 3 2019, 09:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPuiBk4WmH0...72X5_qEDYlzEVrE

Friend of mine shared on FB. He thought the cpu meter was an analyzer smile.gif)))

There is 1000 orchestral tracks, run by 56-core cpu and 1.5Terrabyte Ram


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post Jun 4 2019, 01:37 AM
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Slight correction, it's 56 Threads but not cores. The max on the new mac is 28 cores from the new XEON server chip. The board has only one slot, so dual processsing units is not on deck. However, with that many cores, multiple cpus is probably over kill. Each core is multi threaded resulting in 56 threads. Multi threading has been on intel chips for quite some time. I have a quad core i7 which has eight threads and it looks like eight cpus in activity monitor but sadly, it's not.
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The new units finally have open pci slots and bays/ram that you can change etc. Finally they figured out after 7 years that people buying a high end workstation don't want all the bits soldered in so that they can't be changed. People are still running old mac towers to this day. You still see them in studios all time. People were slow to adopt the black trash can mac. Many folks switched to macbook pros (like me) or imacs.

The bad news is the new tower is

$6,000!!!!!!!!

That's just NUTS imho. I'm not going to be getting one. I'll keep using my trusty macbook pro. I did recently get a Macbook air as a backup unit though. They are getting really cheap. A dual core unit with Gb of ram and an 128gb ssd goes about $300. It will run LOGIC X and that's the main reason to own one imho.
Anyone planning on spending 6k on a new mac?
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 3 2019, 04:44 PM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPuiBk4WmH0...72X5_qEDYlzEVrE

Friend of mine shared on FB. He thought the cpu meter was an analyzer smile.gif )))

There is 1000 orchestral tracks, run by 56-core cpu and 1.5Terrabyte Ram


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post Jun 4 2019, 07:44 AM
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OMG it does not use proprietary hardware solutions - this is what pro mac users have been wishing for- for such a long time!!! To me this feels like a killer move by Apple!!!!



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post Jun 4 2019, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 4 2019, 12:37 AM) *
The bad news is the new tower is

$6,000!!!!!!!!

That's just NUTS imho.


It's not a typical home computer thats for sure biggrin.gif

Some might consider it cheap for a company-use computer though. I mean if it give a power close to 2-3 computers of today than doesn't sound like a bad deal, I'll consider the day when I make a 1000 track song tongue.gif

PS; For those who don't know, a typical song we listen daily uses around 50 tracks (usually less) smile.gif

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$999 for the monitor stand!


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post Jun 5 2019, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 4 2019, 11:26 AM) *
It's not a typical home computer thats for sure biggrin.gif

Some might consider it cheap for a company-use computer though. I mean if it give a power close to 2-3 computers of today than doesn't sound like a bad deal, I'll consider the day when I make a 1000 track song tongue.gif

PS; For those who don't know, a typical song we listen daily uses around 50 tracks (usually less) smile.gif


True. However as soon as you throw video in to the mix, livestreaming, etc - then you can never have enough power.

For example you might want to use logic pro plugins in realtime when livestreaming - without audible latency. This would open up for amazing possibilities.

I have already done a little of this, as you can see this livestream is quite different:
https://www.facebook.com/kristofer.dahl/vid...58028182757069/


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post Jun 5 2019, 10:50 PM
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True smile.gif However, as a home recordist, I've got a tight budget as I'm sure many people do. This is an great machine and it's long overdue. They are going to be in studios all over the world for sure. It's just too expensive a price point for the average home recordis imho. Which is sad sad.gif The good news is that the new MAC MINI is a very powerful machine for the price and I think those are a great choice for home studios. Ola Englund is using one. For me, I"ll stick with my macbook pro. It's a quad i7, 16gb of ram, 1tb ssd. It cost Less than a mac Mini and is more than powerful enough to run Logic X while doing full HD video capture.


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jun 5 2019, 03:12 AM) *
True. However as soon as you throw video in to the mix, livestreaming, etc - then you can never have enough power.

For example you might want to use logic pro plugins in realtime when livestreaming - without audible latency. This would open up for amazing possibilities.

I have already done a little of this, as you can see this livestream is quite different:
https://www.facebook.com/kristofer.dahl/vid...58028182757069/


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post Jun 8 2019, 01:50 PM
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Apparently if you already own an Apple monitor with an Apple stand, you don't need the $1000 dollar stand.
I'll assume that most folks buying a $5000+ mac pro desktop already have the stand.
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Still, $999 for a monitor stand? That's a bit, well, nuts. Wouldn't you agree? For that kind of money, you can buy a decent mac mini to run a home studio with. Or just the stand for a monitor. It's a bit ridiculous in terms of price imho. I'm a Mac user and fan, and even I'm shocked and a bit disgusted by price points on the new big rig.

I'm a long time mac user and I certainly don't have one of those stands. Folks that have been using macbooks, like me, often use a big HD monitor as the primary screen option. Having a billion pixels is great of course, but for a home studio, also seems a bit overkill.

These rigs are going to be great for those shooting and editing in 4k workflows. As I work at NON 4k, (E.G. standard HD) I can't see justifying the expense. But I'm working on a budget. Folks with 10 thousand dollars to blow on a tower and monitor will be happy i'm sure.

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 8 2019, 10:02 AM) *
Apparently if you already own an Apple monitor with an Apple stand, you don't need the $1000 dollar stand.
I'll assume that most folks buying a $5000+ mac pro desktop already have the stand.
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post Jun 10 2019, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jun 4 2019, 08:44 AM) *
OMG it does not use proprietary hardware solutions


I might have spoken too so soon - there does seem to be some proprietary hardware somehow involved with all those pciex slots. Will do some more reading.

Announcing that stand for $1000 does seem lika a very a bad PR move indeed - however I don't think it is uncommon to find expensive high-end stands in the pro market.


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post Jun 10 2019, 12:23 PM
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That seems like a whole heap of money for a Cheese Grater!!!!!
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This is real biggrin.gif



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One "Gotcha" is that it's designed for EIGHT K workflows but the display only supports 6k!!!!!
So even though you are paying 1k for the stand and huge money for the monitor, it still won't show you EIGHT k. You have eto basically guess a bit. Still, very few people at home need Eight k displays. Having worked in a University, worked in a post production facility and spoken with apple reps over the years, I'd say this new tower is meant for facilities, schools, etc. For most folks at home, a Mini or macbook pro is more than enough in most cases. I've had projects with wads of virtual instruments and several tracks of full HD video and had no problem adn mine is just a quad core.

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jun 10 2019, 01:48 AM) *
I might have spoken too so soon - there does seem to be some proprietary hardware somehow involved with all those pciex slots. Will do some more reading.

Announcing that stand for $1000 does seem lika a very a bad PR move indeed - however I don't think it is uncommon to find expensive high-end stands in the pro market.


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