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skennington View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 04:54 PM
May 21 2009, 04:54 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	Do you guys think they make that much of a difference? Anybody have non F-spaced pickups in a FR equipped guitar and what are your thoughts on the output? The difference is 2mm (I think), which to me seems to be quite minimal but who knows, may make all the difference in the world... Anyways, wanted to get some input from the great minds of GMC.. Cheers! Steve You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 05:20 PM
May 21 2009, 05:20 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	i do, i am using a PAF pro non F spaced on my ibanez, i know that for ibanez, F spaced doesnt matter too much, but F spaced was actually designed for fender guitars(hence the F in F spaced), so i dont know about those. i even think my blues bucker in the neck of my ibby isnt fspaced, but i can safely say that i have my dream tone and awesome sustain with this combo You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

skennington View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 05:36 PM
May 21 2009, 05:36 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	Thanks for the input Marc. I'm sure a lot of people are getting good tone with standard pole pickups in a floating bridge guitars, glad to hear you are happy with yours. I'm looking at different p'up combination's for an older guitar I have so want to be sure I don't install a set of standards to only find they are tone suckers.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 05:47 PM
May 21 2009, 05:47 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	what pick ups are you lookin to put in your guitar? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

skennington View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:03 PM
May 21 2009, 06:03 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ May 21 2009, 12:47 PM) what pick ups are you lookin to put in your guitar? Current combination's I'm looking at are... Dimarzio; Evolution (B ) Tone Zone (N) Kent Armstrong; Ultra Distortion (B ) PAF (N) Stan Hinesley; Scorpion (B ) Zen (N) Also looking at some Bill Lawrence models too. Really want the Hinesley's but they are on the upper end of the price range but some of the best! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by skennington: May 21 2009, 06:04 PM -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:12 PM
May 21 2009, 06:12 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	Standard Spacing is 50 millimeters while F-Spacing is 53 millimeters (F is for Floyd Rose, not Fender) It is possible to use standard spacing on floyd guitars and vice-versa but it's not ideal as the pole pieces aren't directly below the strings which MIGHT cause some problems on some playing situations like extreme bendings or so... Which guitar is getting new pickups and what do you want to play with them? -also you might want to look at Bareknuckle Pickups if you go for handwound custom pickups You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

skennington View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:25 PM
May 21 2009, 06:25 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 21 2009, 01:12 PM) Standard Spacing is 50 millimeters while F-Spacing is 53 millimeters (F is for Floyd Rose, not Fender) It is possible to use standard spacing on floyd guitars and vice-versa but it's not ideal as the pole pieces aren't directly below the strings which MIGHT cause some problems on some playing situations like extreme bendings or so... Which guitar is getting new pickups and what do you want to play with them? -also you might want to look at Bareknuckle Pickups if you go for handwound custom pickups Going in an older Jackson DXMG with an Original Floyd. Looking for a big fat bluesy neck tone to all out mayhem from the bridge. My DK2 has the 81/85 combo (had the 18v mod which I don't like) so has since been removed. I've looked at the Bareknuckle's and have heard some great things about them, but damn there expensive. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:40 PM
May 21 2009, 06:40 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	Id go with that Evo/Tone Zone combo, you can get really great tones that arent over powering at all so many artists use that combo and they are relatively less expensive than the others you mentioned You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:43 PM
May 21 2009, 06:43 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 21 2009, 07:12 PM) Standard Spacing is 50 millimeters while F-Spacing is 53 millimeters (F is for Floyd Rose, not Fender) It is possible to use standard spacing on floyd guitars and vice-versa but it's not ideal as the pole pieces aren't directly below the strings which MIGHT cause some problems on some playing situations like extreme bendings or so... Very well said. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

MickeM View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 06:49 PM
May 21 2009, 06:49 PM	Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader Posts: 8.562 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Stockholm, Sweden	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 21 2009, 07:12 PM) (F is for Floyd Rose, not Fender) Actually, it's for both. Heritated initially from Fender size but they found it suitable to give the F double meaning. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My bands homepage All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello

skennington View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 09:15 PM
May 21 2009, 09:15 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	Thanks for the feedback guys! Much appreciated. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

JVM View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 09:43 PM
May 21 2009, 09:43 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 2.878 Joined: 2-June 07 From: Raleigh-Durham, NC	On a similar topic, I was looking at hard tail strat bridges yesterday. Some of them have a slightly wider string spacing than others. Does that affect much besides playability? These are the ones I was looking at: Fender #1 Fender #2 Callaham * The first fender one says "humbucker spacing". What is that supposed to mean? [edit] * FYI, the callaham can be found about halfway down the page. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by JVM: May 21 2009, 09:45 PM -------------------- Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals.

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 09:46 PM
May 21 2009, 09:46 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	IMHO if you want to go for dimarzio in your Jackson I would go for a Paf Pro in the Neck if you want a bluesy tone, the Tone Zone is too dark sounding and powerfull for that stuff, it's more of a shred pickup... If you consider Duncans then go for a Sh-5 in the Bridge and a Sh-1 in the Neck (that's the combination in Emir's guitar I think). If you want more metal then take an SH-6 for the bridge and an Sh-1 Bridge version for the neck (to compensate the volume with the bridge output) I went all out on Bareknuckles because the pound to Euro ratio was great and I got three pairs for three guitars and they absolutely blow me away with sound and built quality... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

jer View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 10:01 PM
May 21 2009, 10:01 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 21 2009, 03:46 PM) If you consider Duncans then go for a Sh-5 in the Bridge and a Sh-1 in the Neck Not the SH-5 The TB-5 I just made this mistake. F spacing with duncan is called the Trembucker. I bought a SH-5 only to rip the damn thing out and wait for a TB-5 to arrive..... I love the pickup though! I have the TB-5 and the SH-2n Jazz You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 10:06 PM
May 21 2009, 10:06 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	Yeah ofcourse you're right Jer, Trembuckers. In fact make sure that you order your pickups in your spacing (if possible) and with short mounting legs (because the long ones don't fit under a Floyd Rose guitar like in Jer's case) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	May 21 2009, 11:21 PM
May 21 2009, 11:21 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	dimarzio blues bucker is also a great neck pick up, i have one in my neck and its awesome...the way it works is that it has one of the coils at full power, and the other very very very very low so its like having a single coil bit a little more humbucker in it to take out the noise You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

skennington View Member Profile	May 22 2009, 12:39 AM
May 22 2009, 12:39 AM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 21 2009, 04:46 PM) IMHO if you want to go for dimarzio in your Jackson I would go for a Paf Pro in the Neck if you want a bluesy tone, the Tone Zone is too dark sounding and powerfull for that stuff, it's more of a shred pickup... If you consider Duncans then go for a Sh-5 in the Bridge and a Sh-1 in the Neck (that's the combination in Emir's guitar I think). If you want more metal then take an SH-6 for the bridge and an Sh-1 Bridge version for the neck (to compensate the volume with the bridge output) I went all out on Bareknuckles because the pound to Euro ratio was great and I got three pairs for three guitars and they absolutely blow me away with sound and built quality... Thanks ZW, I'll look into the PAF Pro as well, looks to be similar to the KA PAF (output wise) KA has Alnico and Ceramic versions of this p/up. I have considered some SD combo's but who knows, there's a sea of choices out there. The Jackson that the new p/up's will go in is Basswood and not Alder just so you guys know, and the trem is a MIG OFR. Thaks again for the help you guys! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

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