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Take 2: Alternate Picking Chops, Lesson By David Wallimann
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Anders Karlsson
May 19 2016, 05:19 PM
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Original lesson: Alternate Picking Chops by David Wallimann

Hi, here is my second attempt. I hope i have developed my synchronisation a bit. I have "restarted" this lesson by going back to a slow tempo and then gradually raise it. I'm not fully satisfied but this is the best for now.

Enjoy:)



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Todd Simpson
May 20 2016, 03:09 AM
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WELL DONE!!! Those chops actually sound like some I swore I wrote at some point smile.gif Your technique here is good. You are keeping your right hand pretty planted on the mute to prevent string noise and provide good distinct tone. Also, your right/left hand synch is very synched. Even good pick position. In short, I think you got this one. smile.gif Your timing is good as well, you are not rushing or lagging, just staying on beat and this is very important in a piece like this. If you drift it becomes apparent very quickly. I can hear blood on the fretboard and I like it smile.gif

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QUOTE (Anders Karlsson @ May 19 2016, 12:19 PM) *
Original lesson: Alternate Picking Chops by David Wallimann

Hi, here is my second attempt. I hope i have developed my synchronisation a bit. I have "restarted" this lesson by going back to a slow tempo and then gradually raise it. I'm not fully satisfied but this is the best for now.

Enjoy:)



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Darius Wave
May 20 2016, 08:53 AM
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Hey Andres! smile.gif

The stuff you are attempting to play here, is not an easy one. Funny thing is actually I would thought it's Todd's lesson smile.gif

No being serious. I had to put my earphones to precisely judge what's happening. I can agree with Todd on your good efficiency of muting unwanted noises and quite nice hand sync. Your playing is even (picking strength wise and tone wise). That's a good thing and comparing to your previous take you have truly managed to improve your sync smile.gif

Unfortunately I can't agree on timing thing. You tend to start picking to early like in the 0:14-0:15 spot or 0:40 (final note to early). At some points I feel it's more a scratch of the pick than actuall tone of the note. Consider having some experiments with pick angle - your high strings sounds sort of pal muted while in the original lesson all notes are "open".

I think you are missing some checkpoints in your "thinking while playing method". Try to focus on 1st note of each 4 from those16th notes groups. Try to play that one a little harder and match it with the backing track.

Personally I'm myself a huge fan of palm muted runs on low strings (as you did in this take) but palm muting solves the problem of unwanted noises and it's a totally different stroy than removing those noises while playing "open" notes. I think it's worth to go for non-muted take, like in the original lesson, to see how your hands work. It can expose some problems to be solved so it's worth giving it a try smile.gif

Anyway it's a piece of visible, hard work from you and it doesn't go for waste. Keep up the good work and keep us updated so we could try to help you best we can smile.gif

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Ben Higgins
May 20 2016, 09:40 AM
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Hi Anders, you've got a very economical picking technique with small, relaxed movements. The speed is obviously within easy capability for you.

The two areas that are letting you down at the moment:

Timing - you're rushing ahead of the beat in many cases. To help you with this, have mental reference points to focus on.. I find that keeping a quarter note count in your head can help. You don't have to actually count 1,2,3,4 but be aware of those beats and try to accent them by picking them with slightly more force, to keep yourself locked in with the count. So, for every group of 6 notes, you emphasise the 1st note of each group... that will keep you locked in with the quarter notes of the beat.

Fretting hand coordination - your fingers are not completely synch'd up with your picking hand. The only way to improve this is to be methodical. Isolate each 3 note per string shape and cycle them with a click. Try it in both directions, with it ascending from the index finger and descending from the pinky or 3rd finger. Do that with all shapes that you will use. Only when you are comfortable that those 3 note per string shapes are locked in with your picking should you put them all together.

It seems like a lot of stuff to think about but they're only minor corrections.. the coordination might take some time so be prepared to put in the work for that. Once you've got coordination, you've always got it smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
May 20 2016, 03:24 PM
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Hi friend,

I think that the instructors already shared what's happening on this take. I also think that your technique is very promising and with some more practice your alternate picking technique will be totally killer. However, I consider VERY important to slow down a bit and practice at a more comfortable tempo, not very slow but slower than this one to be sure that you are picking with the correct timing and with both hands in perfect sync.

The secret to master this kind of patterns is to work on small blocks so I recommend you to isolate different sections and work on them as exercises over metronome or a drum loop.

Here you can find some other alternate picking exercises that will help: ITC.

Keep on the hard work!

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Fran
May 23 2016, 11:25 AM
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Edit: See new comments from Kris below smile.gif

Looking forward to your next take!

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Kristofer Dahl
May 24 2016, 08:45 AM
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Hi Anders - and welcome to REC! biggrin.gif (Trevligt med lite svenskt folk - välkommen välkommen cool.gif )

You are very close to getting your first REC title with this lesson - and it is clear you are working hard on your chops. Keep working on it and you will be shredding with the best.

However I am worried a passing grade on this take will be like a green light for you to push speed further - wehereas what you really need is to gain control and cleanliness as pointed out by instructors.

For this reason I will not let this take pass. Hopefully you can understand where this decision is coming from.

I am very much looking forward to a third take - but be sure to give it lots of more pracitcing time, and focus on being relaxed in both hands while practicing it much slower than your "top speed".

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