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Posted by: Alex Lewis Aug 23 2008, 06:48 PM

Ive had enough i really have after rewatching some kind of monster recently i realised that metalica have not done

ANYTHING woth listening to since about 1992.

St Anger has sold over 2 million copies and is by far THE worst metal album of the noughties in my opinion and i can't

believe that collectively everyone myself included ( i bought both st anger and the dvd myself! ) has let them get fat off

their old reputation, whilst other fantastic and worthy bands struggle to make ends meet.

I have already heard the majority of material from death magnetic on previews and once again i'm not that impressed,

yes it is probably the best thing they have done in 15 years however I cannot bear to part with anymore hard earned

cash on a band who have already been multi millionaires many times over and have in the past had the audacity to

moan about a few kids downloading their album ( no i don't agree with illegal downloads either but why did no other

band complain about the exposure it managed to give them except probably the most sucessful band in metal?).

I would love to hear everyones thoughts on this but personally I won't be buying this record.


Instead if you want to hear some still fantastic thrash metal bands try

Testament - formation of damnation

Death Angel- killing season

Anthrax- We have come for you all

Slayer- Christ illusion

Megadeth- United abominations

oh and dont forget

Exodus- Tempo of the damned

by the way i dont expect anyone to agree with me but it would be nice if somebody felt the same

Posted by: audiopaal Aug 23 2008, 06:53 PM

I'm not gonna boycott them if the album's good, we don't know yet wink.gif
I never bought St.anger or the Dvd, I just didn't like it..


But the albums listed at the end of your post are all awesome smile.gif



edit: typo!

Posted by: Fsgdjv Aug 23 2008, 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 23 2008, 07:48 PM) *
Ive had enough i really have after rewatching some kind of monster recently i realised that metalica have not done

ANYTHING woth listening to since about 1992.

St Anger has sold over 2 million copies and is by far THE worst metal album of the noughties in my opinion and i can't

believe that collectively everyone myself included ( i bought both st anger and the dvd myself! ) has let them get fat off

their old reputation, whilst other fantastic and worthy bands struggle to make ends meet.

I have already heard the majority of material from death magnetic on previews and once again i'm not that impressed,

yes it is probably the best thing they have done in 15 years however I cannot bear to part with anymore hard earned

cash on a band who have already been multi millionaires many times over and have in the past had the audacity to

moan about a few kids downloading their album ( no i don't agree with illegal downloads either but why did no other

band complain about the exposure it managed to give them except probably the most sucessful band in metal?).

I would love to hear everyones thoughts on this but personally I won't be buying this record.


Instead if you want to hear some still fantastic thrash metal bands try

Testament - formation of damnation

Death Angel- killing season

Anthrax- We have come for you all

Slayer- Christ illusion

Megadeth- United abominations

oh and dont forget

Exodus- Tempo of the damned

by the way i dont expect anyone to agree with me but it would be nice if somebody felt the same

TLDR

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 23 2008, 06:57 PM

Yeah, same here, I bought both the CD and the DVD, and MAN was I pissed mad.gif
I've also heard some of the stuff from the new album, and I don't like it any more
than St.Anger.... In my mind Metallica DIED
After the release of "Black" - album... But that's just my opinion, and there might be some
good stuff on the new album also smile.gif I don't know, but I don't think I'm still gonna buy it
tho I'm not boycottin' anything smile.gif

Posted by: Enucleation Aug 23 2008, 07:52 PM

This is ridiculous. If you don't like the album then dont buy it. forming an organized boycott of a band really just doesn't say a lot for you.

It's not as if they are releasing songs every now and then for some extra cash, they are trying to write whaty they feel and enjoy it's one thing if the band puts together songs they don't care about to make some money but the fact that it's been 4 or so years since st anger would stand against that.

Edit: OK that wasn't exactly nice of me. I apologize.

Posted by: Matt23 Aug 23 2008, 07:59 PM

Yeh i agree they became really bad after the black album but if thats what they want to write then let them they left 4 albums of good music behind.

Posted by: MickeM Aug 23 2008, 10:16 PM

Why spend so much energy being negative? People are looking forward to this album. Just don't buy their stuff if you don't like it and be satisfied with that, calling for a boycott seem a bit excessive. dry.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2008, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 23 2008, 11:16 PM) *
Why spend so much energy being negative? People are looking forward to this album. Just don't buy their stuff if you don't like it and be satisfied with that, calling for a boycott seem a bit excessive. dry.gif


I agree - canalayse the energy into non-stop practicing instead - you will benefit alot more from it! (eventually you will be able to proove your point and make even better albums than Metallica...hopefully!)

Posted by: IDontWantMyUsername Aug 23 2008, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 23 2008, 11:34 PM) *
I agree - canalayse the energy into non-stop practicing instead - you will benefit alot more from it! (eventually you will be able to proove your point and make even better albums than Metallica...hopefully!)


Best tip so far! laugh.gif

Posted by: VinceG Aug 23 2008, 10:51 PM

Well, I guess I'm with you to a point. I probably won't buy the album just because I have more bands/albums to worry about rather than hold on to every Metallica news. People have the right to care so be it. Don't whine just because people are still supporting them. Have you heard the new Cryptopsy record? Its terrible, and I really would hold to it as the most sell-out move in Metal history, plus its also worse than St. Anger.

Posted by: SEANCD2005 Aug 23 2008, 11:13 PM

I for one have always liked there albums, st anger being my least favorite, but there stuff has alwas been good imo. Just because it hasnt always been like there early days doesnt mean its not good. ive heard some of the songs on death magnetic and im realy excited , sounds good so far , so no boycott hear

Posted by: erik Aug 23 2008, 11:16 PM

Yeah, I'm not that impressed either.. If Death Magnetic and St. Anger didn't have the Metallica logo on them, they wouldn't even have been released.. tongue.gif

I'm gonna download Death Magnetic when it comes out. If it's good, which I greatly doubt, I will buy the CD.

Posted by: IDontWantMyUsername Aug 23 2008, 11:19 PM

I won't buy the CD, but I think a boycott would be too much. They are only doing what they love, does that offend you in any way?

Posted by: swingline Aug 23 2008, 11:25 PM

I just think they need to stop. They're like strait to DVD Disney movies, you know their trying but the product still sucks anyway.

Posted by: Gerardo Siere Aug 24 2008, 12:23 AM

I likeeverything from metallica except for he albums before from And justice for all, that must be I´m not a trash fan.

Posted by: IDontWantMyUsername Aug 24 2008, 12:23 AM

QUOTE (swingline @ Aug 24 2008, 12:25 AM) *
I just think they need to stop. They're like strait to DVD Disney movies, you know their trying but the product still sucks anyway.


Haha, that's the best comparison I've heard in a while laugh.gif

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Aug 24 2008, 12:34 PM

many years ago I learned a lesson about cd's... just don't buy them without checking them out before. When St. Anger was released I checked out the album, I didn't like it at all, and therefor I didn't buy it, very simple. But why should I boykott the new one in case it is good? What is the sense in punishing a band for a bad album that they once released, when the new one is great? You should punish yourself if you spent money on a cd that you don't like, after all I am sure nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy it wink.gif
When death magnetic is released I will listen to it, if I think it is good, I will buy it, if I think it is bad I won't, end of story.

Posted by: Nazgul Aug 24 2008, 12:56 PM

I like all Metallica stuff, the older and the newer albums, and I think the new album is gonna be great, though Master Of Puppets is unbeatable. A boycott is just .... funny. rolleyes.gif Anyways, as a Metallica-Fan one should have all albums, even if they aren't that good.

Posted by: PanicProne Aug 24 2008, 03:35 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 23 2008, 11:34 PM) *
I agree - canalayse the energy into non-stop practicing instead - you will benefit alot more from it! (eventually you will be able to proove your point and make even better albums than Metallica...hopefully!)

Swedish: Haha. Pedagogen Kristofer Dahl har talat!
(Sorry couldn't come up with a good english translation of that).

I have to say. St anger isn't the best of albums. But I absolutely love the documentary and it made me appreciate the album a lot more from a creative point of view and as a musician. I have to say now, that I've never been one of those hardcore metallica fans. well, they have done some killer songs but I for example think reload is one of their best albums. and what they think themselves and most of their fans think about that.. well. we all know that story.

As far as a boycott. Eh. I'm vegetarian but still I don't boycott people who eat meat. I just don't eat it myself. and yes, I know. there are more militant veggie-people than me so maybe it wasn't such a good example. but the bottom line is. (Swedish: och här kommer pedagogiken in igen) that positive attitude always pays of more. It's scientifically proven that happy people live longer and that it's way more effective to praise someone when they do something right/good instead of yelling at them when they fail or do something wrong.

So..oh whatever. I guess I'll stop here before I get even more off topic.

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Aug 24 2008, 03:49 PM

i did not like ST anger,but thing I did not like was the production(that ugly snare smile.gif ),but there was some very good songs there.Problem is,people expect some kind of monster album from them,the best songs.and the best every thing.But,they are human as well,and I am shore that they are doing the best they can.Far to say,money is not problem for the,they are steal make money form the "Kill em all",so,I don't expect any thing.But if I like ti I will buy it,vice versa.

Posted by: Alex Lewis Aug 25 2008, 05:12 PM

QUOTE (Enucleation @ Aug 23 2008, 07:52 PM) *
This is ridiculous. If you don't like the album then dont buy it. forming an organized boycott of a band really just doesn't say a lot for you.

It's not as if they are releasing songs every now and then for some extra cash, they are trying to write whaty they feel and enjoy it's one thing if the band puts together songs they don't care about to make some money but the fact that it's been 4 or so years since st anger would stand against that.

Edit: OK that wasn't exactly nice of me. I apologize.



Fair point, boycotting a record is probably not the best solution however i still urge others to listen to the album before

going out to buy it just because "its metallica" and make your own mind up about whether it is worth listening to or not

in this respect i think Marcus bang on!.

Music is totally subjective and I want to encourage people to have their own opinions about it, and i don't take offence easily (comes with being from the uk) so i respect your view no need for apologies.



Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Aug 25 2008, 05:40 PM

How can you Boycott an album you didn't hear yet ? I'll take a good listen and than judge it! smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Lewis Aug 25 2008, 05:44 PM

have heard so far cyanide unforgiven 3 and parts of other songs so yes indeed it may be to early to tell nut so far i'm not impressed and yes boycott as i said earlier is a bit extreme

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Aug 25 2008, 06:18 PM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 24 2008, 01:34 PM) *
When St. Anger was released I checked out the album, I didn't like it at all, and therefor I didn't buy it, very simple.


Same here, one friend bought the album and when I came into his house I had listened and of course I didn't like it, so I'm never gonna buy this album.
But there fact is that lot of people buy the album because is a Metallica's album. The true and sad reality !!

Posted by: PhoeniX Aug 25 2008, 08:31 PM

Well i listened to a few songs of the album, and i liked it, If you want to do it go to www.myspace.com/metallica

Posted by: Bedlam Aug 25 2008, 08:56 PM

Why so much hate? Metallica is one of the greatest bands to ever come around. I can't tell you how much Kirk and James have influenced myself and pretty much everyone that's a member here. Yes, they've put out some crappy albums, but at least give them a little respect and wait until the new ablum comes out before bashing them. It will probably be no Master of Puppets, but it has potential to be better than 90% of the crap on the radio now...

Posted by: Guitarman700 Aug 25 2008, 10:25 PM

QUOTE (Bedlam @ Aug 25 2008, 03:56 PM) *
Why so much hate? Metallica is one of the greatest bands to ever come around. I can't tell you how much Kirk and James have influenced myself and pretty much everyone that's a member here. Yes, they've put out some crappy albums, but at least give them a little respect and wait until the new ablum comes out before bashing them. It will probably be no Master of Puppets, but it has potential to be better than 90% of the crap on the radio now...

theres so much hate because they are WAYYYYYY overrated. metallica were never anything new, even when they came out. there were always other bands who were faster, better, and heavier. nowadays, they just try to ride whatever metal trend is most popular at the time, in the hopes of making another dollar.
Edit: on the topic of the new album, it sounds, to me, very boring and contrived. i believe "Crap" would be a proper descriptor.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Aug 27 2008, 12:08 PM

thats nonsense in my opinion, there are always bands that are faster, harder, more brutal or whatever, but all this is not what makes a band a good one. Metallica had some great albums that defined a certain sound, and when they moved away from that sound many people freaked because they just can't accept the fact that a band whants to develop and not play the same stuff over and over again. I never like load, I never liked reload and I won't even comment on St. Anger, but I respect the fact that they tried something different. Would you really like it if they would keep rleasing Puppets over and over again? I would be bored to death by now I guess, even though Puppets is their best album in my opinion...
*edit* forget what I just said, Lightning is better biggrin.gif

Posted by: audiopaal Aug 27 2008, 12:33 PM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 27 2008, 01:08 PM) *
*edit* forget what I just said, Lightning is better biggrin.gif


That's the spirit, Ride the lightning is their best album! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Guitarman700 Aug 27 2008, 12:45 PM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 27 2008, 07:08 AM) *
thats nonsense in my opinion, there are always bands that are faster, harder, more brutal or whatever, but all this is not what makes a band a good one. Metallica had some great albums that defined a certain sound, and when they moved away from that sound many people freaked because they just can't accept the fact that a band whants to develop and not play the same stuff over and over again. I never like load, I never liked reload and I won't even comment on St. Anger, but I respect the fact that they tried something different. Would you really like it if they would keep rleasing Puppets over and over again? I would be bored to death by now I guess, even though Puppets is their best album in my opinion...
*edit* forget what I just said, Lightning is better biggrin.gif

with all due respect, and considering i used to be a huge metallica fan, i wish they would just go away. its embarrassing. i have no trouble with trying something new, but it has to be good as well. they desperately want to be relevant again, but the music world has moved on. they didnt change their sound for the sake of newness, they did it for this ---->$$$$$
they got greedy, unfortunately, and it cost them dearly.

Posted by: Alex Lewis Aug 27 2008, 09:27 PM

Certainly opened a can of worms with this one,

I certainly give Metallica alot of credit for their earlier material and I agree bands do need to try other sounds also but they must certainly also keep some of the key ingredients they had in the first place.

For example:-

Tool: each album is very different and yet you can still hear the links between them? with Metallica they kind of lost their way but I think St Anger proved that some bands seem to be have more diehard fans than others?

The reason I posted this thread is because I'm kinda fed up with being dissapointed with these guys. In addition I think an objective standpoint needs to be taken with any each new release based on its merit alone, not on a bands past?.

In this respect having now heard my apocalypse, cyanide, the day that never comes and the unforgiven 3 in their entirety I certainly don't think this album will be worthy of the praise it will undoubtedly recieve from fans and critics alike but thats only my opinion?.

Alex

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Aug 28 2008, 12:24 PM

QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Aug 27 2008, 01:45 PM) *
with all due respect, and considering i used to be a huge metallica fan, i wish they would just go away. its embarrassing. i have no trouble with trying something new, but it has to be good as well. they desperately want to be relevant again, but the music world has moved on. they didnt change their sound for the sake of newness, they did it for this ---->$$$$$
they got greedy, unfortunately, and it cost them dearly.


Don't you think that concerning money, they best they could have done would have been releasing the black album part 2 instead of load? If money was the only driving force for the last 3 albums then their plan went terribly wrong, because neither load, nor reload, nor St. Anger sold as much as the previous albums sold.
Just to make this clear, I am not trying to defend the band or the last 3 albums, I also didn't like them, but I think any band on this planet has the right to record whatever they feel like recording, after all nobody forces us to buy such albums.
And therefor I don't see the point in bashing them so much now. I will check out the new one when it is released, if I like it I will buy it, if not, well, then I won't buy it, thats it. I just don't see the need for all this flaming and bashing

Posted by: KubaSzafran Aug 28 2008, 01:43 PM

I totally agree with Marcus. Nobody forces you to buy it. Cyanide and The Day That Never comes aren't maybe masterpieces, but they don't make me boycotting whole album.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 28 2008, 02:00 PM

I agree with Marcus. It's cool that they are always experimenting and trying to do different albums. It would be very boring if they continue recording the same album every year, and all of you would be saying: Metallica always records the same album.. they are on this for the money.. ohmy.gif

My favourite album is the black album and they get this album trying to do something different from the previous ones. I also like LOAD and off course I have to say that Ride the lightening and Master of Pupets are metal masterpieces for me.

Posted by: edguy Aug 28 2008, 02:13 PM

Yeah i think Markus choose the right words. For me Metallica is the best band around the metal scene.
I saw them live 2006 and it was so great to feel the spirit they have. James is one of the coolest guys on stage I ever saw.
And i also like the Load and Reload Album and St Anger well it is an another story. Sometimes i like to listen to it but sometimes i dont like it. But then i have 1000 of other records i can listen to.

So I definitely buy the new Album and see if it is good or bad but i think it is not neccessary to flame and say Metallica only record albums for money and they sold their souls or something.


Greetings

Edguy

Posted by: jacmoe Aug 28 2008, 05:07 PM

Some of you really should get a life! laugh.gif

Posted by: JuanMV Aug 28 2008, 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 23 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Ive had enough i really have after rewatching some kind of monster recently i realised that metalica have not done

ANYTHING woth listening to since about 1992.


That's YOUR opinion.

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 23 2008, 02:48 PM) *
i can't believe that collectively everyone myself included ( i bought both st anger and the dvd myself! ) has let them get fat off their old reputation, whilst other fantastic and worthy bands struggle to make ends meet.


Metallica has been and probably is one of the best and most succesful bands in metal history. There is not and "old" or "new" reputation. You must judge a band for what it did in its entire career, and therefore I cannot be negative about Metallica, even if I did not like St. Anger either, or even if I do not like the new album. The other bands did not make it as Metallica did because they are not as good as Metallica. Period. Otherwise they would have made it.

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 23 2008, 02:48 PM) *
I cannot bear to part with anymore hard earned cash on a band who have already been multi millionaires many times over and have in the past had the audacity to moan about a few kids downloading their album ( no i don't agree with illegal downloads either but why did no other band complain about the exposure it managed to give them except probably the most sucessful band in metal?).


There is nothing wrong with a band making millions of dollars. After all, they all want to make money. Why did not other bands complain? Well... there is a famous war strategist that said "do not interfere when somebody else is destroying your enemy". Besides, if, I don't know, Testament wanted to go against illegal downloads, they would not have had the same impact, right?

Metallica has reached a point in which it does not matter if the average metalhead thinks everythig they produce is not good. They are just too big. And yes, if you do not like what they are doing, just do not listen to it!

Posted by: JVM Aug 28 2008, 10:40 PM

QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Aug 27 2008, 07:45 AM) *
with all due respect, and considering i used to be a huge metallica fan, i wish they would just go away. its embarrassing. i have no trouble with trying something new, but it has to be good as well. they desperately want to be relevant again, but the music world has moved on. they didnt change their sound for the sake of newness, they did it for this ---->$$$$$
they got greedy, unfortunately, and it cost them dearly.


Guitarman, I know you and I tend not to agree on the subject of metallica ( biggrin.gif ). So I'll try to word my say here carefully! But I must disagree with you about your view. If every attempt to do something different was a success, we wouldn't have bad music against which to compare the good music. Failure, in my opinion, is absolutely essential and this pertains to almost everything in life. Arguably, they failed on St. Anger. I didn't like it. I did like Load, and reload to a lesser extent. But even if you didn't, you have to give them props for trying. Even if they failed.

I can't see it as them attempting to ride on trends set by other bands, if nothing else the amount of time between each of the albums recently should prove they aren't in this for the money. The labels are undoubtedly pushing them to make another Puppets, and probably have been for years, but yet they still take their time (four years is a long time for another album, you can bet the record company is not totally happy with that).

Posted by: Guitarman700 Aug 29 2008, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (JuanMV @ Aug 28 2008, 05:17 PM) *
The other bands did not make it as Metallica did because they are not as good as Metallica. Period. Otherwise they would have made it.


if that was true, and popular=good, then that would mean that hannah montana and britney spears are the best bands ever. popular DOES NOT equal good.

Posted by: Sondre Aug 30 2008, 12:50 AM

The funny thing is that Load, reLoad and St. Anger would be fantastic albums, if they werent Metallica. But the fact that it is Metallica, and NOT trash makes the die hard fans say its shit. Personaly i only like a few songs from Load / Reload and TBA, but i love all the early albums, and St. Anger. After all, St. Anger is REAL heavy metal, where the early albums are thrash metal. wink.gif

Posted by: JuanMV Aug 30 2008, 01:47 AM

QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Aug 29 2008, 07:33 PM) *
if that was true, and popular=good, then that would mean that hannah montana and britney spears are the best bands ever. popular DOES NOT equal good.


I never said that Metallica was good because they are popular. You are saying that. I only said that Metallica is a good band. In other words, their music is great.

Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Aug 31 2008, 10:26 AM

Boycott Metallica? They'll sure sell a few million copy...if you don't like don't buy it, but don't try to build up a team of boycott fans...I'm an huge fan of Metallica, and the best album for me is the Black album...so even if I don't prefer the trash era I'm a fan, a big fan!

Posted by: JVM Aug 31 2008, 03:16 PM

QUOTE (Sondre @ Aug 29 2008, 07:50 PM) *
The funny thing is that Load, reLoad and St. Anger would be fantastic albums, if they werent Metallica. But the fact that it is Metallica, and NOT trash makes the die hard fans say its shit. Personaly i only like a few songs from Load / Reload and TBA, but i love all the early albums, and St. Anger. After all, St. Anger is REAL heavy metal, where the early albums are thrash metal. wink.gif


True. If it was another band that had come out and released Load and followed up with Reload, they would be a huge band in their own right I guarantee you.

Posted by: Bucket86 Aug 31 2008, 03:31 PM

Boycott one of the biggest bands in the world to try to punish them... hmmmmm
That doesnt add up in my mind.

Thats just like trying to boycott fuel companies.

even if you got 1000 people to do it, the sheer mass and need for the oil market would outweigh it far too much.

And i dont really see a point in it, I have liked all three songs ive heard from death magnetic, (Cyanide, The day that never comes, and My Apocolypse) Im buying the album the day it comes out b/c those three songs are in my oppinion the best ive heard since black album, but thats all a matter of taste, you know?

I dont think this boycott thing is very mature either, you bought St. Anger and you were disappointed, its your fault for spending the money, not Metallica's.

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Aug 31 2008, 03:54 PM

St anger isnt their best stuff, but it still has some good cuts on it.... listen to frantic and some kind of monster

Posted by: Alex Lewis Aug 31 2008, 08:07 PM

screw it i'm feeling antagonistic so here what i really think about metallica....

OVERRATED and UNDESERVING people who have always played music that has been extremely derivative of what has gone before and whose main creative forces were Dave Mustaine and the fantastic CLiff Burton if you buy death magnetic more fool you because there is far better and more deserving bands out there who need some attention not a band who release something as appauling as St Anger,


I beg to differ with alot of people here (and not because of the style of the music) both load and reload were awful mixed bag albums (particularly reload!) if you want to listen to good alt rock there are far better examples of this from many bands but to name a couple try Alter Bridge and Corrosion of Conformity, and St Anger was an abysmal nu-metal release so if you want to listen to some nu-metal try korn selftitled instead.


there i said it

Posted by: JuanMV Aug 31 2008, 09:34 PM

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 31 2008, 04:07 PM) *
screw it i'm feeling antagonistic so here what i really think about metallica....

OVERRATED and UNDESERVING people who have always played music that has been extremely derivative of what has gone before and whose main creative forces were Dave Mustaine and the fantastic CLiff Burton if you buy death magnetic more fool you because there is far better and more deserving bands out there who need some attention not a band who release something as appauling as St Anger,


I beg to differ with alot of people here (and not because of the style of the music) both load and reload were awful mixed bag albums (particularly reload!) if you want to listen to good alt rock there are far better examples of this from many bands but to name a couple try Alter Bridge and Corrosion of Conformity, and St Anger was an abysmal nu-metal release so if you want to listen to some nu-metal try korn selftitled instead.


there i said it


Alex, two things:

1. Metallica created amazing albums after Dave and Cliff were gone.
2. With all due respect, who are you to say what is good or bad? Those are YOUR opinions man. We can talk about why you liked or disliked Metallica's last three albums, but you just cannot say that an album or band is not good only because you think so. I personally liked Load and Reload, so speak for yourself.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Sep 1 2008, 08:12 PM

well, after all everybody on this planet has his own taste in music, if you like Metallica, listen to them and have fun, if not, well, there are one or two other bands on this planet that you could check out I guess, so no need for flaming and bashing.

Posted by: JVM Sep 1 2008, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Aug 31 2008, 03:07 PM) *
screw it i'm feeling antagonistic so here what i really think about metallica....

OVERRATED and UNDESERVING people who have always played music that has been extremely derivative of what has gone before and whose main creative forces were Dave Mustaine and the fantastic CLiff Burton if you buy death magnetic more fool you because there is far better and more deserving bands out there who need some attention not a band who release something as appauling as St Anger,


I beg to differ with alot of people here (and not because of the style of the music) both load and reload were awful mixed bag albums (particularly reload!) if you want to listen to good alt rock there are far better examples of this from many bands but to name a couple try Alter Bridge and Corrosion of Conformity, and St Anger was an abysmal nu-metal release so if you want to listen to some nu-metal try korn selftitled instead.


there i said it


I agree that St. Anger was pretty bad overall, though I like a couple songs on it. If you want MY opinion, alter bridge is a horrible band born from the ashes of a horrible band, though CoC is okay (and from my area smile.gif). In my opinion, neither band has done anything better than Load.

Also I'd have to agree with Juan and say that while I think Mustaine is an awesome artist and Cliff was one of the best bassists of all time, Metallica has definitely proven themselves beyond Cliff and especially Mustaine.

Even if you want to argue that Metallica has been derivative their whole career (which I disagree on), they've certainly perfected and mastered what came before and turned it into their own, which is something the majority of bands out there can't claim.



Posted by: Marek Rojewski Sep 1 2008, 09:22 PM

Is it so hard to understand that some people do like Metallica, and what is more, they are looking forward to listening AND after that, judging the new album? I am sure that there are better albums out there than the upcoming one, but still I am waiting for the chance to listen the whole material, and hope that I will find some stuff that would satisfy me.

The part about Mustaine and Burton makes me wonder do we have one of the "uber" Megadeth fan here? There was a topic about Metallica vs Megadeth fanboys behavior, and the conclusions were quite obvious... --> get a life...

Posted by: 2mazzo Sep 1 2008, 09:51 PM

I like all metallica albums exept S&M and I`m probably the only one digging the St.Anger album too. Boycott their new album is the last thing I will do. After listening to audio samples of all 10 tracks on Death Magnetic I`m pretty shure I`ll by the album. And I totaly agree with Marcus, there is no need for bashing! We have all our own taste in music.

Peace out!

Posted by: VinceG Sep 3 2008, 06:22 AM

So I'd hate to promote this but, Death Magnetic has been leaked (finally haha).

I could honestly say that I am pleasantly surprised by how decent the album is. Its not bad at all, and you all know how I feel about the beloved Thrash Metal. Its not thrash by any means, but a few thrashing moments here and there, quite sloppy actually. I'd say its much better than Black Album, much more intricate, complex, less whiny, more heavy metal, quite predictable at most times, but decent nonetheless. The 2 songs that legally came out was actually the weakest of all. I'll just let you guys simmer this opinion down, and hear for yourself.

You know whats a more shocking news, Metallica is actually happy the album was leaked.

Posted by: blindwillie Sep 3 2008, 07:23 AM

QUOTE (VinceG @ Sep 3 2008, 07:22 AM) *
So I'd hate to promote this but, Death Magnetic has been leaked (finally haha).

I could honestly say that I am pleasantly surprised by how decent the album is. Its not bad at all, and you all know how I feel about the beloved Thrash Metal. Its not thrash by any means, but a few thrashing moments here and there, quite sloppy actually. I'd say its much better than Black Album, much more intricate, complex, less whiny, more heavy metal, quite predictable at most times, but decent nonetheless. The 2 songs that legally came out was actually the weakest of all. I'll just let you guys simmer this opinion down, and hear for yourself.

You know whats a more shocking news, Metallica is actually happy the album was leaked.

Yepp. I'm in shock ohmy.gif

Thanks for your quick review, sounds promising now.

Posted by: shroom Sep 5 2008, 10:06 PM

Sorry can't help you dude. DM is one of the best albums this decade..

Posted by: midnight Sep 7 2008, 08:41 AM

...Yep, It's good....wow. Some amazing heavy music, some moments are explosively brutal.

This stuff is going to sound crushing live.

Buy what you like, if you don't like it...

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 7 2008, 09:45 AM

Just checked out this topic... There is no need to boycott the Tallica, if the album is cool, why not buy it? If the album is bad, than it doesn't deserved to be bought, and that is good enough boycott for me. smile.gif

Posted by: Duncan Sep 8 2008, 04:32 PM

Metallica have never been any good. They started as an average at best thrash band and just went downhill.

Posted by: Antipolitik Sep 13 2008, 11:02 PM

I bought many albums... and Death Magnetic is the best for me in many many years.
The album is rocksolid trash, love Hetfield's voice. They are just too good those old farts...
I can't stop listening to it... weeeehaaaa....

One thing, Trujillo should've raised the bass level before mixdown and master but... still cool.

Posted by: J.T. Sep 23 2008, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 1 2008, 09:12 PM) *
well, after all everybody on this planet has his own taste in music, if you like Metallica, listen to them and have fun, if not, well, there are one or two other bands on this planet that you could check out I guess, so no need for flaming and bashing.


My thought exactly!!!

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