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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Esp Or Ibanez
Posted by: Jelle Feb 8 2008, 12:11 AM
Hey,
I'm kinda in a bind here.
I'm planning on buying a new guitar.
I got a budget around 2000 €.
So what is the better choice?
An ESP eclipse II (vintage black) or an comparable guitar by ibanez?
curious about your opinions.
grtz
Posted by: Gen Feb 8 2008, 12:13 AM
I would go for the eclipse II without any doubt.
Posted by: RandomVictim Feb 8 2008, 12:24 AM
Ibanez Jem you wont regret it
Posted by: Hisham Feb 8 2008, 12:29 AM
i think if you have a money should be lespaul or USA strato
Posted by: MickeM Feb 8 2008, 01:06 AM
Between the two I'd go for the ESP
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM
I wouldn't get either but if I was forced in a life or death situation I'd go for ESP as I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez
Posted by: Goliath Feb 8 2008, 09:29 PM
That's really apples and oranges. I'd take the Eclipse II over a Gibson, but I like metal and Gibsons aren't really equipped for it out of the box quite like an ESP.
Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 8 2008, 10:13 PM
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 8 2008, 07:15 AM)
I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez
OMG, you didn't just say that!!!
Posted by: preownedguitar Feb 11 2008, 10:09 AM
There have been some very good cheese boards to date. I take it as a compliment!
Posted by: ZakkWylde Feb 11 2008, 12:12 PM
I've never played an Esp that suited me perfectly but I would always choose one before an Ibanez. It would be the best if you take the eclipse and a comparable Ibanez and try them out a a music store. You will definitely prefer one of them.
Posted by: Scott Gentzen Feb 11 2008, 12:53 PM
QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Feb 11 2008, 06:12 AM)
I've never played an Esp that suited me perfectly but I would always choose one before an Ibanez. It would be the best if you take the eclipse and a comparable Ibanez and try them out a a music store. You will definitely prefer one of them.
That's some great advice...doing an A/B test in a shop.
I own an older version of the Eclipse now alongside an 80's Ibanez. I can do my own test, but what I have isn't like what you're going to try out new in a guitar shop. Both brands have some interesting stuff across different price points.
For what it's worth, I prefer how the Roadstar sounds and I prefer how the Eclipse feels. But what it comes down to is my own preferences and the individual characteristics of each guitar. I'm sure there's an Ibanez out there that I prefer the feel of and an ESP that sounds better.
Posted by: Tomotoms Feb 11 2008, 01:02 PM
According to this poll, more GMC members use Ibanez than any other type of guitar.
There's no real way anyone can tell you what to go for as you'll have your own individual preference for sound and feel. Personally I prefer Ibanez.
Posted by: Jelle Feb 12 2008, 12:11 AM
well thanks for the advice,i'll try them both and see what fits me..
And yes if i had the money i'd buy both of them
Posted by: Pavel Feb 12 2008, 12:50 AM
I think you got all the advice you could in the above posts Try them both and see it for yourself
Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 12 2008, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM)
I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez
I want to see this !!!
Posted by: Muris Feb 12 2008, 01:42 AM
Sorry for interception but for 2000 € you can get something like
Pensa,Musicman,PRS,Suhr,Gibson etc or even to build a fine custom.
Both Ibanez and ESP are cool brands but you can spend
you money on more classy instrument,
no offense tho, that's just my personal opinion .
Posted by: Tomotoms Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 12 2008, 12:42 AM)
Sorry for interception but for 2000 € you can get something like
Pensa,Musicman,PRS,Suhr,Gibson etc or even to build a fine custom.
Both Ibanez and ESP are cool brands but you can spend
you money on more
classy instrument,
no offense tho, that's just my personal opinion .
More classy than a JEM?!?!?!?
Ok, it might look like a bachelors pad in the 80s, but the tone...THE TONE!!!
Posted by: Muris Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM
QUOTE (Tomotoms @ Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM)
More classy than a JEM?!?!?!?
Ok, it might look like a bachelors pad in the 80s, but the tone...THE TONE!!!
Mostly because of TONE,richness of the tone,yeah
Posted by: Goliath Feb 12 2008, 03:57 PM
If you get an Eclipse, I wouldn't get the EMG models, if you're paying that kind of scratch for those quality woods, let them have a chance to affect the tone, and not just belt out the old constant that EMG is heralded for. You could buy a cheaper guitar with EMG's if you want that crunch. I'd look at the SD loaded Eclipse.
the SD Eclipse I'd put against the JEM for tone every day. Evolution/Basswood isn't for everyone. JEM will be more playable unless you're an LP fan where you need that heft.
Both are fine instruments. You really can't go wrong, you just need to figure out what suits your tastes.
Posted by: vikingraider1 Feb 17 2008, 02:13 AM
Mate, go for a vintage Charvel Model 6. These are the best kept secret when it comes to guitars. Just read the reviews on harmony central. And you'll have change from your budget to keep the missus sweet when she discovers that you've bought a new axe.
In the words of Erroll Brown from Hot Choclate... "Everyone's a winner"
Posted by: Trond Vold Feb 17 2008, 04:19 AM
In my opinion, I would say ESP are overpriced and you get more guitar for the money with an Ibanez.
Ibanez SZ-2020EX <-- i think this one is just beautiful, and with a nice price..
But, for 2000€.. you should definetly go for something REALLY good, like a Suhr or a custom Quicksilver (not sure how easy it would be to get one if you live outside of the US though).
Posted by: bsamn Feb 18 2008, 02:52 PM
Yea bro just like muris said...
Classy man....i say BC Rich WArlock baby
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 18 2008, 02:55 PM
QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 12 2008, 12:38 AM)
In my spare time I will try and make one
I might even start a blog lol. Can a cheeseboard sound better than an Ibanez
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 18 2008, 02:57 PM
QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Feb 17 2008, 03:19 AM)
In my opinion, I would say ESP are overpriced and you get more guitar for the money with an Ibanez.
Ibanez SZ-2020EX <-- i think this one is just beautiful, and with a nice price..
But, for 2000€.. you should definetly go for something REALLY good, like a Suhr or a custom Quicksilver (not sure how easy it would be to get one if you live outside of the US though).
I was gonna get a Suhr but went for a Caparison instead. The Suhr was good but a few bits on them feel really cheap. The trem system felt like it was from the local hardware store
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