GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ Love To Play Without A Pick...
Posted by: Darius Wave Jul 29 2013, 11:47 PM
Hi guys. Just wanted to share a video from a last gig of one of my bands - Jamming Cherry. It shows some of other things I do aside from heavy rockin'. Hope You'll enjoy. BTW...I love to play with fingers only...
Posted by: The Professor Jul 29 2013, 11:50 PM
NIce! I'm a finger picker myself. Always get strange looks from folks when I play fingerstyle electric, but it works for me. Thanks for sharing!
Posted by: Darius Wave Jul 29 2013, 11:54 PM
Thank You Matt! Indeed fingers have a hidden power
Posted by: The Professor Jul 29 2013, 11:57 PM
For sure. I often get asked about why I play with a pick, so I wrote out my story a little while ago, might be interesting if you're a fellow fingerstyle player.
I can't make a full switch to fingers but I agree with the concepts You point out in Your article. I think It's a very good way of building tension if You start with fingers and finish with the pick...at least for the things I usually play. But I will never say to anyone that any of those is better or worse )) I was beginning on the classical guitar in a music school so playign with right hand fingers was always familiar...but years later I started to use it with electric soloing
Posted by: The Professor Jul 30 2013, 12:17 AM
Yeah, everyone has to make their own choices for sure. I started with a pick, then switched after about 8 years to fingers only. It's been 10 years since then and I don't miss the pick. But I play a certain style of music where I don't need a pick. If I was doing more metal or shred stuff, I would break out the pick, but for the jazz and Brazilian music I do fingers work great.
Posted by: sumitnxt Jul 30 2013, 04:13 AM
Great song
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 30 2013, 04:59 AM
I use pick, but I'm getting closer to start using more my fingers. I have to train a bit my right hand. I really like the tone and the feeling that you can get using fingers, even more for jazz and blues styles. If you haven't checked Andre Nieri new lesson, you should. He combines pick with fingers in a very smooth way.
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Jul 30 2013, 07:07 AM
Like I said on your Facebook page, this song sounds great. I love that piano intro and for a minute I miss my piano (I’m at office). But when I heard it your solo I realize again why I am obsessed with the guitar. The guitar sound it gives me the feeling that I can’t replace it with any thousand pianos. I have the same mad pleasure when I play and when I hear electric guitars. I’m not a big fan for acoustic guitar.
I like the sound when using the finger because it’s much warmer. But I prefer a combination between pick and finger. For me to use the finger is ok for short musical parts.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 30 2013, 08:01 AM
I love finger picking as well - for me it's a combo between fingers and pick - as long as you can give notes the expression that you desire, it's all great.
Jeff Beck, John Mayer and Mark Knopfler are among my favorites in what regards electric playing and in the acoustic realm... All the new breed of players that perform percussion and slap/pop techniques on the acoustic guitar are great!
Like I said on your Facebook page, this song sounds great. I love that piano intro and for a minute I miss my piano (I’m at office). But when I heard it your solo I realize again why I am obsessed with the guitar. The guitar sound it gives me the feeling that I can’t replace it with any thousand pianos. I have the same mad pleasure when I play and when I hear electric guitars. I’m not a big fan for acoustic guitar.
I like the sound when using the finger because it’s much warmer. But I prefer a combination between pick and finger. For me to use the finger is ok for short musical parts.
I like piano but always misses the that wiade range of articulation that guitar has I'm not surprised most piano players go directly to some jazz-like playing. They have no muting, pinch harmonics, bends, slides etc...at lest not so many articulation tools as the guitar...so they mess witrh the harmony
Matt...Of course You're right...Unfortunately I'm not a kind of player addicted to some specyfic genre so I could define myself with some particular technique, one amp and one guitar that I'll be know for having all my life Currently I'm maybe more up to trying to add some blues or fusion flavour to my playing rather than trying to become a different type of player
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 30 2013, 07:01 AM)
I love finger picking as well - for me it's a combo between fingers and pick - as long as you can give notes the expression that you desire, it's all great.
Jeff Beck, John Mayer and Mark Knopfler are among my favorites in what regards electric playing and in the acoustic realm... All the new breed of players that perform percussion and slap/pop techniques on the acoustic guitar are great!
Jeff Beck is actually my number one...because of his uniqe "weird" tones. If a kid at home would play like Jeff probably his parents would make him stop and said " Kid...go and learn how to play...instead of all those falses You make" But Jeff is a player who does all those "falses" and they sit as hell
Posted by: audiopaal Jul 30 2013, 09:06 AM
Nice vid, and nice playing
I can barely use my fingers, hehe.. I'll play some fingerstyle rock every now and then, but that's as far as I go. I Wish I could play more fingerstyle though... Maybe, when I'm done with my Rock/Pop/Funk/ cover of Deep Purple's Stormbringer, I can practice some more If I ever get done with it that is
Posted by: Darius Wave Jul 30 2013, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (audiopaal @ Jul 30 2013, 08:06 AM)
Nice vid, and nice playing
I can barely use my fingers, hehe.. I'll play some fingerstyle rock every now and then, but that's as far as I go. I Wish I could play more fingerstyle though... Maybe, when I'm done with my Rock/Pop/Funk/ cover of Deep Purple's Stormbringer, I can practice some more If I ever get done with it that is
For me it might be weird cause I've started from playing with fingers only but I can understand You...cause I see many friends wondering why do I use fingers See above Matt's cool article
Posted by: Headbanger Jul 30 2013, 10:30 AM
Awesome Darius...Nice feel and I enjoyed very much...Its nice to see you perform...you are a true showman!
I often put my pick down and use fingers only...it seems almost more natural...
Posted by: dcz702 Jul 30 2013, 12:11 PM
Wow that was great. I really liked your solo. I'm starting to work on jazz lessons and this was very inspiring. Id like to check some more out like this.
Posted by: Darius Wave Jul 30 2013, 01:20 PM
QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jul 30 2013, 09:30 AM)
Awesome Darius...Nice feel and I enjoyed very much...Its nice to see you perform...you are a true showman!
I often put my pick down and use fingers only...it seems almost more natural...
So we all feel something attracting in playing fingers!
QUOTE (dcz702 @ Jul 30 2013, 11:11 AM)
Wow that was great. I really liked your solo. I'm starting to work on jazz lessons and this was very inspiring. Id like to check some more out like this.
Thank You Dave! This is an irony of a life..
Most of things I play in live bands are more like this - pop, blues, funky a bit o fusion but my web image is something completely different. Maybe this was just I way of making true some of the rock metal fantasies...that are not coming out in the band work
Posted by: SirJamsalot Jul 30 2013, 05:28 PM
I started off with classical guitar lessons, and got accustomed to finger picking. My fingernails aren't very good though, so the tone I get from finger picking is pretty much only flesh tones Then I went electric and it's been mostly picking with a pick, but I enjoy fingerpicking with my accoustic. When I recently picked up the bass, I fell in love with finger-picking style - mostly for the rhythm aspect. It just feels really natural to keep a rhytym using only fingers and it's really *fun* doing it that way on bass. I haven't tried using a pick on bass yet Not sure if I care to.
Chris!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 31 2013, 07:48 AM
QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jul 30 2013, 07:34 AM)
Jeff Beck is actually my number one...because of his uniqe "weird" tones. If a kid at home would play like Jeff probably his parents would make him stop and said " Kid...go and learn how to play...instead of all those falses You make" But Jeff is a player who does all those "falses" and they sit as hell
His individuality is striking indeed - if my kid would play like that, I would devote my whole life into helping him make it big
Posted by: Darius Wave Jul 31 2013, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 31 2013, 06:48 AM)
His individuality is striking indeed - if my kid would play like that, I would devote my whole life into helping him make it big
Support from the parents makes miracles! I was always very gratefull for my fathers help...He was guiding my playing since the very beginning
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 31 2013, 01:53 PM
Also talking about this topic... I really like how Kotzen is playing nowadays... using just finger picking. However I wonder if it's true that he plays all this rocker riffs just with fingers live, as he plays in this video:
Posted by: Darius Wave Aug 1 2013, 08:35 AM
I still remember Kotzen with his full of colors Ibanez from an old VHS lesson
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 1 2013, 08:47 AM
Good point here Gabe - I see Kotzen's evolution towards fingerstyle as a very interesting one. Honestly, his youth albums - the shreddy ones have no appeal to me whatsoever, but after he began his evolution into a bluesier shredder, his music became incredibly attractive to me. Especially because he also sings so damn well!
Posted by: Darius Wave Aug 1 2013, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 1 2013, 07:47 AM)
Good point here Gabe - I see Kotzen's evolution towards fingerstyle as a very interesting one. Honestly, his youth albums - the shreddy ones have no appeal to me whatsoever, but after he began his evolution into a bluesier shredder, his music became incredibly attractive to me. Especially because he also sings so damn well!
Agree...awesome voice for the playing he actually does!
I love this song with this particular live version
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 2 2013, 08:26 AM
You can hear the big influences that soul/ funk and rnb had on him There is an interview in which he speaks about how he found vinyls with James Brown and such and how they changed his world - it's on one of his DVDs, tho I can't remember which one
Posted by: StaceyD Aug 5 2013, 01:46 PM
I love your playing Darius!
I've had to switch to playing with a pick the last couple of days cause of injury, and I've discovered I don't miss it that much, plus it sounds much more expressive and natural. Plus you can go from a gentle brush to a full out snap/pop so the tonal range is great!
Thanks for that Winery Dogs link Gabriel, what a power trio! I've never heard of them and they're playing over here next month so perfect timing!
x
Posted by: Darius Wave Aug 5 2013, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (StaceyD @ Aug 5 2013, 12:46 PM)
I love your playing Darius!
I've had to switch to playing with a pick the last couple of days cause of injury, and I've discovered I don't miss it that much, plus it sounds much more expressive and natural. Plus you can go from a gentle brush to a full out snap/pop so the tonal range is great!
Thanks for that Winery Dogs link Gabriel, what a power trio! I've never heard of them and they're playing over here next month so perfect timing!
x
Thanx Stacey! I'm glad You enjoy it I usually use hybrid picking but in the more pop/blues/funk playing very often start my solos with fingers only I also like this very "slide'ish" feel while doing bends