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Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 07:55 PM
Nov 11 2009, 07:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	hey guys, i was hoping someone can explain this to me: i am plugging my digitech rp500 as a pre amp into the power amp of my blackstar ht-5 (5 watt) head. the weird thing is, the volume is MUCH MUCH MUCH louder! right now i am playing with the master volume at 9 o clock (a quarter of the way up) and it is playing with the volume i usually would get at maybe 10-12 o clock...i cant even turn it to 12 o clock with out 1 palm muted pick shaking the entire house. can anyone explain this? thanks! MArc You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

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ZakkWylde View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 10:21 PM
Nov 11 2009, 10:21 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	I think your Digitech rp500 is just pushing the Poweramp of the Blackstar harder than the actual Preamp of the HT-5. Can you lower the output of your Pedal? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 10:30 PM
Nov 11 2009, 10:30 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	yeah i can, its not a problem, i just think its a cool fix to the "blackstar" not being loud enough problem...i guess ill be using this pedal as pre amp for practice and gigs then i guess the next obvious question would be....is it bad? the only thing i see going south is that it might wear out the poweramp tubes faster than normal You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 11:02 PM
Nov 11 2009, 11:02 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Hmm I think this should be safe. Your digitech is giving out hotter signal to poweramp thus power increase. Nice tweak you found out.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 11:05 PM
Nov 11 2009, 11:05 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	I dunno how much the poweramp can take...if it's built to withstand the full output of the amps preamp, you might damage it with putting more than the preamps maximum output into it... To be on the safe side: Try not to crank it to the max and it should be fine! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

MickeM View Member Profile	Nov 11 2009, 11:11 PM
Nov 11 2009, 11:11 PM	Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader Posts: 8.562 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Stockholm, Sweden	QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Nov 11 2009, 10:30 PM) i guess the next obvious question would be....is it bad? the only thing i see going south is that it might wear out the poweramp tubes faster than normal The signal is stronger from the Digitech than from the actual preamp. Is it bad? A slight signal strength increase isn't bad, it's like an OD into the preamp, or an EQ with boost in the loop. It'll just wear out the poweramp tube quicker, that's all. If that's bad or not depends on weather you think it's worth it or not You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My bands homepage All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Nov 14 2009, 02:20 AM
Nov 14 2009, 02:20 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Several techs told me that putting processors with hot signals in front of a tube amp can damage it. Not sure if this applies to HT5, but I wouldn't consider this a proper way to make it more louder. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Marc_Maiden View Member Profile	Nov 14 2009, 06:48 PM
Nov 14 2009, 06:48 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.164 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fremont, CA	dont worry ivan, i havent been cranking it at all, i just use it to "hear" what im playing. when i use the processor live, i put it in the loop and work it like a stompbox with modeling off You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Marc Current Set up: Atomic Reactor 2x12 Cab/power amp with a Digitech rp1000 as a preamp Schecter c1 plus electric guitar

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Nov 16 2009, 01:00 AM
Nov 16 2009, 01:00 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Ah, no problem mate, just gave my opinion. I'm not entirely sure if this can damage the amp to be honest, but just wanted to give a "better safe than sorry" kind of opinion. cheers You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

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