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Posted by: ItSME3 Jan 26 2012, 03:22 PM
My Neighbour got this thing. He is a studio guy. He will sell most of his old equipment now. THis thing here is all he needs. I played around for 1-2 h with that thing and believe me it is amaaaaazing. It really makes such perfect copies of your amps that you wont need the amps any longer. However it has no real power amp so live you need to run it through a PA. Anyway we profiled a dumble clone (ceriatone) and a 65 Amps Empire. Both are really boutique.
The profiles were hardly distinguishable from the original. Ammmaaazing
For you guys that do studio work that thing is just incredible. Some stuff sucks though (slightly instable software, no power amp ) but I guess firmware upgrades will help.
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/158/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guitar_Amplification_Redefined.html
here a vid that show how this thing reacts to picking dynamics etc. just like the original amp you profiled
http://youtu.be/tvscgj7_IBE
here some presets that the amp comes loaded with were used
http://youtu.be/34D-iEtAW58
nice high gain bogner profile
http://youtu.be/43-RYEGZp-0
and here some nice explanations of the amp
vid 2 and 3 explain the whole profiling process and show showcase some sounds
http://youtu.be/sZWMzwwsVe0
http://youtu.be/ywDUAw7ck8g
http://youtu.be/q1QBwUerxeM
Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 27 2012, 11:06 AM
You know somethings expensive when the refuse to show the price! 
Posted by: ItSME3 Jan 27 2012, 11:14 AM
Its 1400 Euros street price in Germany. Quite expensive. That's why I don't buy it 
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 27 2012, 03:06 PM
That's a great concept, we had it on the site some half a year ago when it showed up on some of the shows. I think it's a great concept, but the menu and knobs look a bit confusing, and software looked buggy then too (some delay on the knobs and all that). These are all small problems, I think they are capable of polishing it up
Posted by: ItSME3 Jan 27 2012, 05:23 PM
Its really not hard to dial in a good tone or operate the thing in general. Whats really awesome is that you can change all kind of parameters on your profiles. THe profile of the 65 amp wie did was so livelike and then you can still change things like adding transients to bring out the pick attack. Incredible
Posted by: thefireball Jan 27 2012, 05:34 PM
That's nice!! Kinda like POD Farm live!
Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 28 2012, 12:29 AM
Very interesting, I'd had it in my possession:)
Posted by: PosterBoy Jan 28 2012, 07:00 AM
I'm not sure how accurate and nice it will be once you tweak parameters away from the initial profile, as it's got nothing to base it's data on.
Cosmetically it doesn't look great.
I'll stick with the Axe FX Ultra
Posted by: JaxN4 Jan 28 2012, 07:05 AM
I'll stick with the Axe FX Ultra
+1
Posted by: ItSME3 Jun 25 2012, 03:57 PM
tested that thing against an axe fx ultra yesterday. The Kemper wins easily
Posted by: Opetholic Jun 25 2012, 04:11 PM
Haven't watched all the youtube videos but how exactly does profiling work ?? Do you actually need the amplifier head you want to profile? That would somehow defile the purpose
Posted by: Yash Jun 25 2012, 04:14 PM
I'll read about it and express my views
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 25 2012, 05:01 PM
Interesting machine! I didn't know this one but it seems to be a really good emulator. I have never used the Axe but I can suspect that this one is similar in quality to it. Does anybody have one of these?
Posted by: Mudbone Jun 25 2012, 05:51 PM
You can download the models other people have copied from their own amps
Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 26 2012, 08:42 AM
How long have you spent with the Axe Fx, it takes time to learn (there are a lot of parameters for tweaking). Then you factor in the studio quality effects as well, I wouldn't say the Kemper wins easily.
I'm not saying the Kemper is rubbish by any means it sounds great. I don't like the look of it, and can't see why it wasn't made in rack format.
Posted by: ItSME3 Jun 27 2012, 10:30 AM
I'm not saying the Kemper is rubbish by any means it sounds great. I don't like the look of it, and can't see why it wasn't made in rack format.
ok lets be precise. The amp section alone, sounds imo a lot better in the kemper. Also the equalization and tone shaping is really good. You can def. change the tonal characteristics of your profiles in an absolute musical and organic sounding way. The FX section of the axe FX is no doubt way better than the kemper FX. The Kemper more or less simulates stomp boxes which means they are modeled in the chain before the amp. However the reverbs are really nice and lush. The dist. pedals are ok but not incredibly detailed. But the Kemper also has an FX loop so you can use external FX as my buddy does. Anyway I agree the thing looks not very pleasing. However, he puts it on top of his rack which leads to many questions after concerts according to him
. So using the Kemper for the amps and the FX from the Axe FX is the ultimate combination.
Posted by: JaxN4 Jun 27 2012, 11:05 AM
Honestly there is no one thing that is better than the other. It's all about what sounds good to your ears.
I haven't heard about the Kemper besides this thread. But I can say since the AXE FX2 released a TONE MATCHING program.... it's amazing. send a isolated guitar track of your favorite player to the axe.... then record your guitar, then press a button, and bam you have a near perfect match... Free updates to fix bug's and forum support... You can't lose...
But, each to their own. :-)
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 27 2012, 11:27 AM
NOW THAT IS AWESOME! Sort of putting a bit of KEMPER in to the AXE Effects! Nice Once you can do the tone matching, you really do have nearly unlimited tones at your disposal.
The KEMPER technology is great, but I really hope they realease a plugin. Imagine being able to download any amp sound from online and have in your DAW. DROOOOOOOOLLLL!
Todd
I haven't heard about the Kemper besides this thread. But I can say since the AXE FX2 released a TONE MATCHING program.... it's amazing. send a isolated guitar track of your favorite player to the axe.... then record your guitar, then press a button, and bam you have a near perfect match... Free updates to fix bug's and forum support... You can't lose...
But, each to their own. :-)
. So using the Kemper for the amps and the FX from the Axe FX is the ultimate combination.I actually suggested this same idea in another thread.
The kemper really does an amazing job with tube emulation and detailed reconstruction of tone. So using a Kemper to replicate a given head, then the axe for routing, effects, etc. would be truly awe inspiring IMHO. But unless one wants to sell a kidney, the price of both is just crazy. Maybe someday
Posted by: ItSME3 Jun 27 2012, 12:59 PM
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 28 2012, 12:55 PM
So, if I understand correctly, this is a comparison done on the same track and as the image changes, the device in the image is featured on the soundtrack?
Posted by: ItSME3 Jun 28 2012, 01:01 PM
exactly
Posted by: ElHombre Jun 28 2012, 07:08 PM
The price is similar to the FX Ultra.
The FX II is higher in price, how is the kemper compared to that one?
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Jun 30 2012, 10:52 AM
If you wanna searing, REAL in-your face metal tone, this's the amp you'll ever need ,
Not some digital modeling amps 
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 30 2012, 10:59 AM
Not some digital modeling amps
Looking good, neighbor!
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 30 2012, 12:10 PM
Not some digital modeling amps
Spiff little amp! And STUFFED with Tone! Not to mention easy to carry!
The Kemper is sorta like stuffing an ENGL/MESA/MARSHAL all in to a suitcase. Handy
Even fakes the cabinet. The only place it sorta falls down is FX. IT's got 4 stomp box slots, but the AXE FX ULTRA II now does nearly as well with Amp emulation and does far better with routing and FX stacking/layering. But don't get me wrong, I'd love to have either one. But I'd really love both as a plugin for my DAW.Todd
Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 2 2012, 06:30 AM
The profiles were hardly distinguishable from the original. Ammmaaazing
For you guys that do studio work that thing is just incredible. Some stuff sucks though (slightly instable software, no power amp ) but I guess firmware upgrades will help.
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/158/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guitar_Amplification_Redefined.html
here a vid that show how this thing reacts to picking dynamics etc. just like the original amp you profiled
http://youtu.be/tvscgj7_IBE
here some presets that the amp comes loaded with were used
http://youtu.be/34D-iEtAW58
nice high gain bogner profile
http://youtu.be/43-RYEGZp-0
and here some nice explanations of the amp
vid 2 and 3 explain the whole profiling process and show showcase some sounds
http://youtu.be/sZWMzwwsVe0
http://youtu.be/ywDUAw7ck8g
http://youtu.be/q1QBwUerxeM
I have heard about them! And those amps are amazing!!! I want one!
Posted by: Bossie Jul 6 2012, 07:27 PM
http://www.tonymckenzie.com/axe-fx-II.htm
Posted by: Max Sokolov Jul 6 2012, 09:07 PM
As I remember, tone matching feature appeared in latest Axe FX II firmwares too!
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