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Jun 5 2009, 12:24 AM
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You should learn theory, theory nicely explains everything you hear
and helps to understand what comes to you from outside AND what comes from you as well!! That's composing, you hear melody/harmony in your mind and you instantly know what is it, you can transpose it to any key etc. Now, writing for real orchestra demands some other type of knowledge, knowing all instruments in orchestra, notes range for each, clefs and on and on. That is heavy one and will take you pretty lot of time. Instead of learning all those specs about orchestra instruments I suggest you to get some nice VST with orchestra sounds, use your ear and theory knowledge to compose some pieces, it's fun. 
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Jun 5 2009, 12:30 AM
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Hey Muris yeah i already use VST for that so i have all the instruments and what not but i still think its important to know how to play each of those ie not making one instrument play a chord on its own because thats impossible instead it has to be spread out.
Just an out of topic thing here but, what is a music matrix and how does it work? http://musictheory.net/utilities/html/id98_en.html |
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Jun 5 2009, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jun 5 2009, 01:30 AM)  Hey Muris yeah i already use VST for that so i have all the instruments and what not but i still think its important to know how to play each of those ie not making one instrument play a chord on its own because thats impossible instead it has to be spread out. Just an out of topic thing here but, what is a music matrix and how does it work? http://musictheory.net/utilities/html/id98_en.html I checked link but I have no idea what is it for, never mind.  Here are few hints about orchestra instruments, you should play only ONE note per instruments (tuba, oboe, clarinet, trumpet etc), you can play 1, 2 or even more notes on string instruments ( violin, viola, cello etc). Those are some basic rules about how those instruments work, rest of it is pretty much up to you and your ears.
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Jun 5 2009, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jun 5 2009, 02:10 AM) I've just found out by chance that this matrix thing is all to do with serial music. I get how this works now but there's one thing i don't understand and thats how you get to your initial 12 prime notes because you never compose with all 12 notes not usually You can compose with all 12 notes very easily, even within one key, any key. You use other notes (out of key) as passing or neighbor notes, pretty simple.
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Jun 5 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jun 5 2009, 11:16 AM) Flight of the Bumblebee? Never heard it ill search for it thanks |
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Jun 5 2009, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jun 5 2009, 12:43 PM) Never heard it ill search for it thanks Here you go !
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Jun 5 2009, 01:02 PM
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Or even better, Muris' take
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Jun 5 2009, 03:42 PM
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Haha!
Great take! -------------------- www.youtube.com/Wallimann
www.davidwallimann.com |
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Jun 5 2009, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jun 5 2009, 12:13 PM) Give me an example of a piece of music that does. I've never heard a melody line that used all 12 notes, or a chord progression that used 12 notes. Generally the maximum you have in a key is 7 notes and now and then 8. Of course this excludes modulation. Actually i tell a lie i have heard something that used all 12 notes but to be honest with you it sounded awful It doesn't have to be chromatic note by note at all. Per example, lets say we are in key of Em so we use Em minor scale. And progression is something like Em, C, Am, D and Bm. Em minor scale has notes E, F#, G, A, B, C and D so we need few more to cover all 12. F note can be played over Bm chord as a lead to F# which is strong note. G# note would work nicely over Am chord as a lead to A note, strong note. Bb(A#) note works fine over Em or Bm, it leads to B note which is strong one. C# note leads to D so you can use it over D or Bm chord. D# note obviously leads to E so it'd work fine over root chord, Em chord. D, D# and E is tiny chromatic line and I'm sure you've played similar lick many times. Once more, this approach is just on passing notes but it still covers all 12. You can put all 12 notes in progression as well but most likely it'd sound a bit jazzy. And it can be done within one key with couple of altered chords of course.
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