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bleez View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 12:43 PM
Jul 1 2014, 12:43 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	I mentioned in my new ibby thead about the angle of the trem. Not having much experience with them Im not sure if it needs to be setup. can anyone tell from these pics if it looks wrong? [attachment=37782:T1.jpg] [attachment=37783:t2.jpg] You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Mertay View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 01:27 PM
Jul 1 2014, 01:27 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5.667 Joined: 27-May 13 From: Turkey / izmir	Yeah it seems the trem. is actually a bit low and angled to the body too much. First fix the angle then adjust height to your preference, finally intonation You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- http://mertay.wordpress.com/

Monica Gheorghev... Monica Gheorghevici View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 1 2014, 01:38 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 2.324 Joined: 12-July 13 From: Bucharest, Romania	Typically, the tremolo should look parallel to the body of the guitar if things are setup properly. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

AK Rich View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 05:41 PM
Jul 1 2014, 05:41 PM	Learning Guitar Hero Posts: 3.553 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Big Lake, Alaska	It has been my experience that Ibanez guitars are setup pretty well right off the shelf , so I am a little surprised to see this. It definitely should be flat. Does your Ibanez have a spring tension dial on the back? It makes setup go a bit smoother. Have it setup , or dive in and do the deed yourself. [attachment=37784:Picture_11.jpg] You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

SpaseMoonkey View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 06:22 PM
Jul 1 2014, 06:22 PM	GMC:er Posts: 951 Joined: 8-May 11 From: Warren, Ohio	http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/angle.htm My RG920, thats how mine is setup. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page.

bleez View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 09:03 PM
Jul 1 2014, 09:03 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	Rich, unfortunately I dont have one of those wheels on the back. thanks for the pics, guys, very helpful. So, basically, the trem should be sitting more level like the green line and not like the white line ( which it is now ) ? [attachment=37787:t3.jpg] Im going to take it back to the store at the weekend and ask them to do it, so I just want to be sure what it is Im asking them to do Also, can anyone give me an idea on how long it might take the average guitar dude to set this up properly, Just so I have a rough idea of the size of the job Im asking them to do. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Sensible Jones View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 1 2014, 09:19 PM	GMC:er Posts: 7.277 Joined: 2-January 09 From: London-ish. UK.	QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 1 2014, 09:03 PM) Rich, unfortunately I dont have one of those wheels on the back. thanks for the pics, guys, very helpful. So, basically, the trem should be sitting more level like the green line and not like the white line ( which it is now ) ? [attachment=37787:t3.jpg] Im going to take it back to the store at the weekend and ask them to do it, so I just want to be sure what it is Im asking them to do Also, can anyone give me an idea on how long it might take the average guitar dude to set this up properly, Just so I have a rough idea of the size of the job Im asking them to do. Exactly, green line is where it should be! In all honesty, if your local dude can't do it in a half hour or under then there's something wrong! When you take it to the shop ask if you can watch what he's doing so that you get an idea of how to set it up yourself. They shouldn't mind you watching! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!

SpaseMoonkey View Member Profile	Jul 1 2014, 09:57 PM
Jul 1 2014, 09:57 PM	GMC:er Posts: 951 Joined: 8-May 11 From: Warren, Ohio	Just open up that back plate, give each screw a half turn then re-tune it. Then my guess is another half turn each screw and you should be about spot on or super close to it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page.

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 2 2014, 12:29 AM
Jul 2 2014, 12:29 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Yup it should be flat If you have the double/triple spring system underneath, you can just tighten the big screws in to the body or you can just have it setup and intonated at the shop Make sure to tell them you want the action low and loose and you want the trem flat and floating. And for goodness sake put 9s on it QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 1 2014, 04:03 PM) Rich, unfortunately I dont have one of those wheels on the back. thanks for the pics, guys, very helpful. So, basically, the trem should be sitting more level like the green line and not like the white line ( which it is now ) ? [attachment=37787:t3.jpg] Im going to take it back to the store at the weekend and ask them to do it, so I just want to be sure what it is Im asking them to do Also, can anyone give me an idea on how long it might take the average guitar dude to set this up properly, Just so I have a rough idea of the size of the job Im asking them to do. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

bleez View Member Profile	Jul 2 2014, 08:14 AM
Jul 2 2014, 08:14 AM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	thanks for the info guys, that's perfect. Hmmm Im kinda tempted to try and set it up myself now I'll watch a few vids and see how confident I feel after that You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

SpaseMoonkey View Member Profile	Jul 2 2014, 09:27 AM
Jul 2 2014, 09:27 AM	GMC:er Posts: 951 Joined: 8-May 11 From: Warren, Ohio	The worst that can happen is you need to turn the screw the other way and loosen the tension to bring it back up. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page.

Sensible Jones View Member Profile	Jul 2 2014, 04:08 PM
Jul 2 2014, 04:08 PM	GMC:er Posts: 7.277 Joined: 2-January 09 From: London-ish. UK.	QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 2 2014, 08:14 AM) thanks for the info guys, that's perfect. Hmmm Im kinda tempted to try and set it up myself now I'll watch a few vids and see how confident I feel after that PM me if you need a hand. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!

bleez View Member Profile	Jul 2 2014, 04:25 PM
Jul 2 2014, 04:25 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jul 2 2014, 04:08 PM) PM me if you need a hand. thanks matey, very kind of you I'll do a bit of reading on the subject and see if its something Im up to trying. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 3 2014, 07:42 AM
Jul 3 2014, 07:42 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Hey mate - I also learned how to set these up myself and adjusting the springs with the screwdriver as Spase suggested, is pretty much the way to do it. Drive the screws in for a turn each and re-tune to guitar, if it's still angled, try a quarter of a turn for each and re-tune. Do this until the guitar is tuned and the trem is not angled anymore. See, this is why I totally dislike Floyd Rose systems Too much fuss Let us know how it went, ok? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

bleez View Member Profile	Jul 3 2014, 08:32 AM
Jul 3 2014, 08:32 AM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 3 2014, 07:42 AM) See, this is why I totally dislike Floyd Rose systems yeah..... It did cross my mind as well hopefully I'll get into the swing of them. I dont know if adjusting it with affect the intonation, it might be best to take it back to the store and watch the guy doing it first You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Sensible Jones View Member Profile	Jul 3 2014, 03:15 PM
Jul 3 2014, 03:15 PM	GMC:er Posts: 7.277 Joined: 2-January 09 From: London-ish. UK.	QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 3 2014, 08:32 AM) yeah..... It did cross my mind as well hopefully I'll get into the swing of them. I dont know if adjusting it with affect the intonation, it might be best to take it back to the store and watch the guy doing it first If, at some point, the intonation was originally set correctly then it shouldn't be affected by tightening the Claw Screws to get it reset correctly. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!

bleez View Member Profile	Jul 3 2014, 09:18 PM
Jul 3 2014, 09:18 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jul 3 2014, 03:15 PM) If, at some point, the intonation was originally set correctly then it shouldn't be affected by tightening the Claw Screws to get it reset correctly. Well that's cool I just assumed it would get messed up by adjusting the trem, awesome. thanks dude. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 3 2014, 10:40 PM
Jul 3 2014, 10:40 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Should be ok as long as you don't adjust the saddle pieces Just takes a screw driver to tighten the two screws on bottom but loosen the strings a bit first so that you don't pop them QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 3 2014, 04:18 PM) Well that's cool I just assumed it would get messed up by adjusting the trem, awesome. thanks dude. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 4 2014, 10:50 AM
Jul 4 2014, 10:50 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	I think that taking it to a pro setup and watching closely how it's done would be the greatest first step for you as a first time Floyd user. For me, the experience of one of my former guitar teachers who taught me how to do it and then supervised me while doing it a few times, was invaluable, as now I became surefooted in the operation. See if the guy at the setup is willing to share his craft a bit You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 4 2014, 09:08 PM
Jul 4 2014, 09:08 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Well said You can flatten the trem with a simple scredriver but having it setup and intonated by a pro is a good idea QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 4 2014, 05:50 AM) I think that taking it to a pro setup and watching closely how it's done would be the greatest first step for you as a first time Floyd user. For me, the experience of one of my former guitar teachers who taught me how to do it and then supervised me while doing it a few times, was invaluable, as now I became surefooted in the operation. See if the guy at the setup is willing to share his craft a bit You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

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