Was This The Most Important Guitar Ever Made? |
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Jan 24 2022, 10:59 PM
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Interesting video from Mr Buck.
What do you think about the Esquire? Is like to own an original  https://youtu.be/KOhl3DV8FHo -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 26 2022, 02:37 AM
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Certainly one of the most important of all time. To this day we see tele clones from just about everyone who builds guitars. Even hardcore metal folks have embraced the shape, if not the pickups.  QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 24 2022, 05:59 PM)  Interesting video from Mr Buck. What do you think about the Esquire? Is like to own an original https://youtu.be/KOhl3DV8FHo |
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Jan 26 2022, 06:29 AM
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It was odd seeing the first Esquire with a three a side headstock and I found it interesting how the first Esquires had only one pickup but had a three way toggle switch for different tones.
The Esquire preceded the Telecaster and was the first solid body by Fender in 1950 so was the Esquire the most important guitar ever made? Who knows? But it certainly has its place in guitar history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Esquire -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 26 2022, 03:56 PM
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Obviously yes, the Tele is arguably the most or one of the most important electric guitars.
And now I'll argue that ... IMO the first Fender solid body electric bass (I'm arguing) in '51 was more important to the development of the future of not just electric guitar but rock music in general. Leo called it a Precision Bass and it looked like a cross between what would become the Stratocaster ('54) and a Telecaster ('50). Huh, you say. Before the P-bass, the low end was held down by a player using an acoustic upright bass and was mic'd (look at early Elvis footage). The bands couldn't play that loudly. The invention and adoption of the Fender Bass made it so that now the drums could really pound and the electric guitar could really push into an amp. In fact the first "loud" guitar amp was a bass amp. The Fender (TV-front) Bassman amp with a 15" speaker in 1952 (eventually switching to a 4x10" design). This is the amp that Jim Marshall copied for the first JTM45. I'll conclude this little diatribe by noting that the P-Bass was so popular, ubiquitous and revolutionary that up until the early 70s, the generic term for 'electric bass' was Fender Bass. Some old guys still use the term and on old studio session music charts for the bass you can see it written on the part. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 26 2022, 03:59 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 26 2022, 07:10 PM
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Just to be pedantic and clarify, Chris Buck's video is about the Esquire primarily, I know folks will argue that the Tele is the same with an extra pickup but I just wanted to point it out as both replies have said that "yes the Telecaster was important......."
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 26 2022, 10:47 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 26 2022, 10:34 PM
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Broadcaster had two pkups. The name was changed to Telecaster because Gretsch had a set of drums named Broadkaster.
The Esquire was/is the single pkup model (and is a bit of a different animal). I still stand by my assertion that the P Bass is more revolutionary than either. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 26 2022, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 26 2022, 09:34 PM) Broadcaster had two pkups. The name was changed to Telecaster because Gretsch had a set of drums named Broadkaster. The Esquire was/is the single pkup model (and is a bit of a different animal). I still stand by my assertion that the P Bass is more revolutionary than either. My mistake, I've edited it now, I meant primarily about the Esquire.  I'd love to own an original Esquire. I used to hate the Telecaster but I love my Baja 50s Tele and I'm sure I'd love owning an Esquire
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 26 2022, 11:02 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 26 2022, 11:12 PM
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The general consensus regarding the main tonal difference between the Esq. and the Tele is due primarily to the fact that there's no extra string pull or dampening from the magnets of a second pickup. Also of note is that Esquires, starting in 1951, were routed for two pickups. Most buyers of Esquires put a second pickup in and it's actually very difficult to find a 1950s Esq that doesn't have a neck pkup added. The 'no truss rod' thing of the originals was also a deal breaker. They warped really quickly, especially in any clime beyond SoCal.
This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 27 2022, 02:44 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 27 2022, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 27 2022, 03:38 AM) But I get it, you are a stickler Bane of my life 
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