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Posted by: Goliath Nov 15 2007, 03:54 AM

Are thsoe fancy shmancy cables really worth it?

Posted by: Muris Nov 15 2007, 04:08 AM

Not sure of "fancy shmancy" but GOOD cable does make difference in sound,no doubt!! smile.gif

Posted by: Ryan Nov 15 2007, 04:11 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 14 2007, 09:08 PM) *
Not sure of "fancy shmancy" but GOOD cable does make difference in sound,no doubt!! smile.gif

Really muris? How does it effect the sound? does it make it more clean of a sound, or just less interference or what?

Ive always wanted to know how much the better cords effect the sound!!

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 04:13 AM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Nov 14 2007, 10:11 PM) *
Really muris? How does it effect the sound? does it make it more clean of a sound, or just less interference or what?

Ive always wanted to know how much the better cords effect the sound!!


A lot of cheap cables make noise and don't sound as good. You should get good cables if your looking for less noise (or no noise) and a better, clearer sound out of your guitar and amp.

Posted by: Goliath Nov 15 2007, 04:15 AM

QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 15 2007, 04:13 AM) *
A lot of cheap cables make noise and don't sound as good. You should get good cables if your looking for less noise (or no noise) and a better, clearer sound out of your guitar and amp.



How high end are we talking here? There are monster cables that are like $50 for 12 feet, which just seems ridiculous, but I doubt the 9$ cables are getting the job done either.

Where's the sweet spot? Any sort of rating or something to look for?

Posted by: Ryan Nov 15 2007, 04:16 AM

QUOTE (Goliath @ Nov 14 2007, 09:15 PM) *
How high end are we talking here? There are monster cables that are like $50 for 12 feet, which just seems ridiculous, but I doubt the 9$ cables are getting the job done either.

Where's the sweet spot? Any sort of rating or something to look for?

I bought some 10 foot cables for 15 bucks, there ibanez, and they are doing really good for me.

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 04:18 AM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Nov 14 2007, 10:16 PM) *
I bought some 10 foot cables for 15 bucks, there ibanez, and they are doing really good for me.


I have Ibanez 15 footers also and they sound like sh*t.

QUOTE (Goliath @ Nov 14 2007, 10:15 PM) *
How high end are we talking here? There are monster cables that are like $50 for 12 feet, which just seems ridiculous, but I doubt the 9$ cables are getting the job done either.

Where's the sweet spot? Any sort of rating or something to look for?


You could look for ratings on a guitar site like musiciansfriend.com or just read the details on it. I'll look for an example and post it.

Posted by: Muris Nov 15 2007, 04:19 AM

Not only it's clearer but sound is a lot more brighter and LOUDER!!! smile.gif

It was maybe 5-6 years ago,I have been using Planet Waves cable,
which is fine cable tho but I had it for 2 years or som.
I had a show and friend of mine wanted to jam with my bend.
He plugged his Strat(I had Axis,a lot more power the Strat) with his cable into my gear
and I was like.."man,you wanna burn my stuff??"
He bought brand new Klotz cable(not too long as well) with Neutrik jacks that morning. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 04:21 AM

Ok here. This cable looks decent so here is an example.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Monster-Cable-S100-14-Straight-Angled-Instrument-Cable-?sku=331639

Monster cables are good and they aren't always 50 dollars. I think Live Wire and Planet Wave are usually good too. Just look around and ask your local guitar store clerks what they think about it if you are looking for a good quality cable.

Posted by: Muris Nov 15 2007, 04:24 AM

QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 15 2007, 04:21 AM) *
Ok here. This cable looks decent so here is an example.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Monster-Cable-S100-14-Straight-Angled-Instrument-Cable-?sku=331639

Monster cables are good and they aren't always 50 dollars. I think Live Wire and Planet Wave are usually good too. Just look around and ask your local guitar store clerks what they think about it if you are looking for a good quality cable.


Absolutely,there are many great cables and jacks,just don't but the cheapest or som. smile.gif




Edit spelling: "but" is something totally different ,"buy" is fine laugh.gif

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 04:26 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 14 2007, 10:24 PM) *
Absolutely,there are many great cables and jacks,just don't but the cheapest or som. smile.gif


Yep. smile.gif

Posted by: Animosity Nov 15 2007, 04:48 AM

Monster is the way to go, in my opinion. I got a 12 foot cable for $30. Sure it is expensive but Monster has the greatest policy ever. If the cable shorts out on you, stops working properly, or even if you cut it, you can take the broken cable into any retailer that sells Monster products and get a new cable on the spot, no charge to you.

What can I say - I love Monster Cables! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Muris Nov 15 2007, 04:51 AM

Glory to Monster then!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: jeff Nov 15 2007, 04:58 AM

QUOTE (Animosity @ Nov 14 2007, 10:48 PM) *
Monster is the way to go, in my opinion. I got a 12 foot cable for $30. Sure it is expensive but Monster has the greatest policy ever. If the cable shorts out on you, stops working properly, or even if you cut it, you can take the broken cable into any retailer that sells Monster products and get a new cable on the spot, no charge to you.

What can I say - I love Monster Cables! biggrin.gif
Really! Cool. I never knew that. I've stayed away from them because of the cost, but maybe it's something to consider.

I've always understood that the main difference is that the cheaper cables may pick up interference but there was not much difference between the mid-priced cables and the higher end ones as long as they were properly shielded. But I trust what Muris says about it and I'll check it out now. If it benefits the signal where it is noticible, by all means I would be interested.

The more I think about it, it may be the same scenario where someone buys a really expensive stereo system but cuts costs on the speakers.

Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 05:49 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 14 2007, 10:24 PM) *
Absolutely,there are many great cables and jacks,just don't but the cheapest or som. smile.gif
Edit spelling: "but" is something totally different ,"buy" is fine laugh.gif



Muris i see you say cables AND Jacks?Are you talking about the input jack thats in your guitar?Is there also a big difference in input jacks>?

Posted by: Pavel Nov 15 2007, 05:53 AM

I'll have to get some decent cables which go between my pedals. The short cables i have are sucky-sucky biggrin.gif so i should look for something better.

Posted by: MickeM Nov 15 2007, 06:17 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 15 2007, 04:08 AM) *
Not sure of "fancy shmancy" but GOOD cable does make difference in sound,no doubt!! smile.gif

+1 on good cables. I never used any fantastic cables so I wouldn't know if it's worth it. But besides a better sound from good cords compared to cheap ones they will last a lot longer.

The cheap cords I have and had, all of them break in one way or another.

Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 06:20 AM

QUOTE (Pavel @ Nov 14 2007, 11:53 PM) *
I'll have to get some decent cables which go between my pedals. The short cables i have are sucky-sucky biggrin.gif so i should look for something better.



I do know that those make a big difference from experience .I had some crappy ones then got some high quality ones and i had better tone and more volume

Posted by: Muris Nov 15 2007, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (shredmandan @ Nov 15 2007, 06:20 AM) *
I do know that those make a big difference from experience .I had some crappy ones then got some high quality ones and i had better tone and more volume


Yep,tone AND volume biggrin.gif

Posted by: Zephyr Nov 15 2007, 08:18 AM

QUOTE (Animosity @ Nov 14 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Monster is the way to go, in my opinion. I got a 12 foot cable for $30. Sure it is expensive but Monster has the greatest policy ever. If the cable shorts out on you, stops working properly, or even if you cut it, you can take the broken cable into any retailer that sells Monster products and get a new cable on the spot, no charge to you.

What can I say - I love Monster Cables! biggrin.gif


The same is true with Planet Waves.

I've got a 15 footer Planet Waves with a mute switch that is very helpful, you don't have to worry about popping or anything when you unplug/plug things in.

Posted by: Understudy Nov 15 2007, 08:55 AM

I had a cable problem last weekend actually. I had cheap cables from Musician's Friend, like 9 dollars each. I plugged into my wah and terrible noises exploded and then silence. I feared my Carvin had taken a dump on me , switch the cable , it was fine for 2 minutes and then the same thing. Fortunate I had 2 old Dimarzio cables in my bag. I since ordered a few 21 foot Monster Cables from Musician's Friend, 40 something bucks each, they are great , no noise and have a lifetime warranty. I was told I could cut it in half with scissors and they would still replace it. +1 for the monsters man , good cables.

Posted by: Rock Nov 15 2007, 10:49 AM

QUOTE (Understudy @ Nov 15 2007, 02:55 AM) *
I had a cable problem last weekend actually. I had cheap cables from Musician's Friend, like 9 dollars each. I plugged into my wah and terrible noises exploded and then silence. I feared my Carvin had taken a dump on me , switch the cable , it was fine for 2 minutes and then the same thing. Fortunate I had 2 old Dimarzio cables in my bag. I since ordered a few 21 foot Monster Cables from Musician's Friend, 40 something bucks each, they are great , no noise and have a lifetime warranty. I was told I could cut it in half with scissors and they would still replace it. +1 for the monsters man , good cables.


I agree. You can't skimp on cables especially if you have spent some dough on a quality guitar and amp. Good cables definitely make a difference. I also chose Monster due to their quality and lifetime replacement policy.

Posted by: kahall Nov 15 2007, 12:14 PM

I have a 25' cable that I got when I first started and thought it was fine until I bought a 12' monster cable. I could hear everything I was doing so much better, which at this point is not necessarily a good thing.

Posted by: Ryan Nov 15 2007, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 14 2007, 09:18 PM) *
I have Ibanez 15 footers also and they sound like sh*t.
You could look for ratings on a guitar site like musiciansfriend.com or just read the details on it. I'll look for an example and post it.

They dont suck, what are you talking about?

Posted by: Hardtail Nov 17 2007, 10:52 AM

To be honest you don't need High End cables. Just make sure you're not getting junk cables and you should be fine. If you are regularly performing then perhaps you can look into high-grade cables but the improvement in sound from moderate cables will be minute.

Some Cable examples....

Crap cable:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Gear-Standard-Guitar-Cable?sku=330199

Moderate cable:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/DiMarzio-Instrument-Cable?sku=332100

High-End cable:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Monster-Cable-Rock-14-Straight-Instrument-Cable?sku=331650

Hardtail

Posted by: VinceG Nov 18 2007, 03:37 AM

If you want to buy some Monster Cables go for gold tips because they are meant to give your *rock* sound a much clear definition than standard cables. I don't have one but my Monster Cables are the best. You can't go wrong either because if your monster stop working for any, and I mean any, reason then Guitar Center will replace it no questions asked.

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