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Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 7 2006, 11:53 AM

Can someone recommend me good but not too expensive recording software?
I'm not big on gear and stuff, but I could really use this.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: texasamp Oct 9 2006, 01:51 AM

QUOTE (RIP Dime)
Can someone recommend me good but not too expensive recording software?
I'm not big on gear and stuff, but I could really use this.

Thanks in advance.

I use Sound Forge 7.0, it has many effects and does really good. I think Kris uses this as well.

Regards,
Darrell-

Posted by: recklessftw Oct 9 2006, 04:06 AM

For recording wavs I use just goldwave (wav editor) and make all my drums and synth, bass in FL Studio 6. FL does great, it's a good all in one but there's a learning curve. Great once you get the hang of it.

Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 9 2006, 05:06 AM

Cool, thanks, how much do those cost???

Posted by: recklessftw Oct 9 2006, 05:14 AM

http://www.flstudio.com/ starts at $49 but the $99 is better, the fruity edition. You can get a demo off the site.

Enjoy my friend!!

Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 9 2006, 06:58 AM

Has anyone tried this?? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sony-Acid-Music-Studio-6?sku=703492
It fits my budget better.

But I came across some sites that says you can download Sound Forge 7.0 for free :think , is that for real?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 9 2006, 08:47 AM

Actually I use Nuendo 2.0 - but it's pretty expensive software. There are some light version of cubase which are cheap and work nicely.

If you learn Cubase you have understood the basis for a powerful recording tool.

There is also a freeware called audacity.

/K

Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 9 2006, 09:33 AM

Hmm....thanks guys I got alot of coices to consider now. I probably have to think about it for a while though, because I want good recording software but I can't spend more than a 100$ or so. :think
I still welcome suggestions though. smile.gif

Posted by: texasamp Oct 9 2006, 10:29 AM

I use audacity at times. I will use Amazing Slow Downer for the fast blues solo's by srv where I need to hear the pick scraps and ghost bends that are almost impossible get while at normal speed. But mostly I use my ears :]

Darrell-

Posted by: isaac Oct 9 2006, 01:19 PM

erm while on the topic of recording, i'd like to ask erm kris what prog u use to make backing tracks?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 9 2006, 04:54 PM

QUOTE (texasamp)
I use audacity at times. I will use Amazing Slow Downer for the fast blues solo's by srv where I need to hear the pick scraps and ghost bends that are almost impossible get while at normal speed. But mostly I use my ears :]

Darrell-


Yes the ears are cheap and extremely effective! biggrin.gif

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erm while on the topic of recording, i'd like to ask erm kris what prog u use to make backing tracks?


Most backing tracks on gmc are recorded with a bos BR-600 digital recorder, ie no computer.

Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 22 2006, 04:18 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 9 2006, 04:54 PM) *
Most backing tracks on gmc are recorded with a bos BR-600 digital recorder, ie no computer.


Wow, I check out a video for the BR-600, and wow!! That thing is cool!!! cool.gif
But is it easy to use for a beginning recorder? unsure.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 22 2006, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (RIP Dime @ Oct 22 2006, 05:18 AM) *
Wow, I check out a video for the BR-600, and wow!! That thing is cool!!! cool.gif
But is it easy to use for a beginning recorder? unsure.gif


Yes fairly easy - it's explained step-by-step in the manual how to record, just follow that.

--Kris

Posted by: RIP Dime Oct 23 2006, 12:00 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 22 2006, 07:08 PM) *
Yes fairly easy - it's explained step-by-step in the manual how to record, just follow that.

--Kris


Cool. cool.gif I'll probably save for one of those then.
Thanks

/Jeff

Posted by: paperclip Nov 12 2006, 09:44 AM

I would recommend reaper. I have Cubase and a few others; but for laying down some tracks and doing some real-time vst stuff reaper is awsome. I also included the latest shareware version

http://www.cockos.com/reaper/

Posted by: Nick Nov 12 2006, 03:58 PM

check out the software thread also in this forum

Posted by: Guitar1969 Nov 14 2006, 05:57 AM

QUOTE (RIP Dime @ Oct 7 2006, 02:53 AM) *
Can someone recommend me good but not too expensive recording software?
I'm not big on gear and stuff, but I could really use this.
Thanks in advance.


Check out Traction II, distributed by Mackie now - Its in you price range and has a cult following due to its full featuredness, but easy interface.

But you will still need a decent guitar interface/audio card to get decent results with all the software packages.

Posted by: RIP Dime Nov 14 2006, 12:32 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely look them up. Hey, anybody ever use Pro Tools?

Posted by: n0x Nov 27 2006, 04:04 PM

My uncle recommends Sonar 4 to me.. I just downloaded it and it looks pro ;o.. however, my PodXT live requires lots of bandwidth to be connected to my pc via USB, so i gota sort me out a USB hub or something >_<

Posted by: fretdancer Nov 27 2006, 05:14 PM

QUOTE (n0x @ Nov 27 2006, 05:04 PM) *
My uncle recommends Sonar 4 to me.. I just downloaded it and it looks pro ;o.. however, my PodXT live requires lots of bandwidth to be connected to my pc via USB, so i gota sort me out a USB hub or something >_<

I use a POD XTL to record - I dont think it takes ANY computer resources?...I dont run the sound through the USB though as I did not find that very good - I use the left or right outputs into either "line in" or "mic" inputs into the sound card (you need a lead making up that goes from a standard guitar jack (1/4") to a mini jack (1/8") but you can easily buy these any length you want from ebay for instance. Then make sure that the software you are using is accepting that input as a recording device.

I am sure I am making this sound all horribly complicated but its not, its so simple - its one cable from POD to computer and the POD take up no computer power/bandwith or whatever - its simply an input device with the tone pre shaped. It takes up no more resources than a microphone plugged into your soundcard. In essence, thats all it effectively is.

Posted by: n0x Nov 28 2006, 12:58 AM

QUOTE (fretdancer @ Nov 27 2006, 08:14 PM) *
I use a POD XTL to record - I dont think it takes ANY computer resources?...I dont run the sound through the USB though as I did not find that very good - I use the left or right outputs into either "line in" or "mic" inputs into the sound card (you need a lead making up that goes from a standard guitar jack (1/4") to a mini jack (1/8") but you can easily buy these any length you want from ebay for instance. Then make sure that the software you are using is accepting that input as a recording device.

I am sure I am making this sound all horribly complicated but its not, its so simple - its one cable from POD to computer and the POD take up no computer power/bandwith or whatever - its simply an input device with the tone pre shaped. It takes up no more resources than a microphone plugged into your soundcard. In essence, thats all it effectively is.


hehe cheers for the advice biggrin.gif. POD XTL, great piece of equipment init tongue.gif but the prob is im using a laptop with a shitty inbuilt soundcard. How would I get through my pod as a midi device? You can't do that unless you plug in the POD directly via USB device or something similar, correct? I might be wrong, I don't know much about this subject hehe. I've got me one of those transformer jacks that changes from a 1/4" to a 1/8" input for the mic, but it dooesnt work so well with my guitar leads.. Ill get me another one then and ill try it out ;D or better so illt ry find the actual lead.

Rock on! biggrin.gif

Posted by: fretdancer Nov 28 2006, 10:16 AM

QUOTE (n0x @ Nov 28 2006, 01:58 AM) *
hehe cheers for the advice biggrin.gif. POD XTL, great piece of equipment init tongue.gif but the prob is im using a laptop with a shitty inbuilt soundcard. How would I get through my pod as a midi device? You can't do that unless you plug in the POD directly via USB device or something similar, correct? I might be wrong, I don't know much about this subject hehe. I've got me one of those transformer jacks that changes from a 1/4" to a 1/8" input for the mic, but it dooesnt work so well with my guitar leads.. Ill get me another one then and ill try it out ;D or better so illt ry find the actual lead.

Rock on! biggrin.gif

Re Midi devices...I dont know ANYTHING about midi - I can see the Pod has a midi out so presumably....

as for your experience not working so well - there is a output level selecter at the rear of the Pod XTL - make sure you tweak that - its the little knob that you can barely notice - next to the "left" output.. make sure that is set correctly for your card. Also you can adjust the sound input via the sound settings in control panel and finally make adjustments to the sound you hear in your recording software. It should sound fine - I am sure you will have a mic input - you just need to adjust the levels to get it right. - bear in mind they may be too high and need turning down that may be the problem !! start at zero and work up - you may be getting distrorted sound if the levels are high - in a mic input you dont need high input levels.

Final tip is this - make sure the speakers on your laptop are turned off or down, use a seperate line out to your amp (you have 2, left and right) use one to the puter and one to the amp - DONT listen to your playing throught the computer speakers - only listen through those during playback of the recording. otherwise the "lag" will make it sound really bad if you monitor it live.
monitor your sound as you play through your amp.

hope that helps.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 28 2006, 10:31 AM

QUOTE (n0x @ Nov 28 2006, 02:58 AM) *
hehe cheers for the advice biggrin.gif. POD XTL, great piece of equipment init tongue.gif but the prob is im using a laptop with a shitty inbuilt soundcard. How would I get through my pod as a midi device? You can't do that unless you plug in the POD directly via USB device or something similar, correct? I might be wrong, I don't know much about this subject hehe. I've got me one of those transformer jacks that changes from a 1/4" to a 1/8" input for the mic, but it dooesnt work so well with my guitar leads.. Ill get me another one then and ill try it out ;D or better so illt ry find the actual lead.

Rock on! biggrin.gif



To my knowledge - you only need to connect midi devices to the pod if you want to "deep edit" the amp settings (etc.). Most settings can be reached through pod's physical interface - so midi really isn't a must.

For recording you can go through "audio in" on the computer or usb. I'd probably go for usb - not to get loss in sound quality because D/A and A/D (A=analog, D=digital).

Posted by: PickNGrin Nov 28 2006, 02:40 PM

When you get into recording, the options and set-ups are endless.
I use n-track studio, at $45.00 it's just an all around great deal and very suitable for a home recording type use like me.
Go to fasoft.com for a FREE trial version --the trial has limitations of course, but it got me hooked enough I bought the whole package and I love it, no regrets, been using it two years.

Posted by: n0x Nov 28 2006, 09:51 PM

Cheers for the tips boys, much appreciated. Hehe yeah, the level knob I got that set pretty low incase it doesnt overdrive my amp.. And i gota switch from "amp" to "line" setting, and the studio setting too.. That bloody PODXTL manual is huge!

So pretty much this is how my setup(s) should be - One lead connected via the POD XTL input to my guitar. As for output (left and right), one cable (left) goes into the amp, and one cable(right) with a 1/8" head plugs into the "microphone" input port on my laptop with my speakers turned off? Unless, I decide to use USB ofcourse. Right? ;o. So, that's 3 guitar cables in total yeh?

I'll give this a try Thursday and i'll let u guys know, and perhaps even record something and upload it here:D. That is, if what was stated above in my post is true. (my setup)

Posted by: fretdancer Nov 28 2006, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (n0x @ Nov 28 2006, 10:51 PM) *
Cheers for the tips boys, much appreciated. Hehe yeah, the level knob I got that set pretty low incase it doesnt overdrive my amp.. And i gota switch from "amp" to "line" setting, and the studio setting too.. That bloody PODXTL manual is huge!

So pretty much this is how my setup(s) should be - One lead connected via the POD XTL input to my guitar. As for output (left and right), one cable (left) goes into the amp, and one cable(right) with a 1/8" head plugs into the "microphone" input port on my laptop with my speakers turned off? Unless, I decide to use USB ofcourse. Right? ;o. So, that's 3 guitar cables in total yeh?

I'll give this a try Thursday and i'll let u guys know, and perhaps even record something and upload it here:D. That is, if what was stated above in my post is true. (my setup)


How you describe it is pretty much exactly how I am set up - I record into Adobe Audition, in that program there is a line goes right accross the bottom of the screen which displays the "input level" so you can pretty much set the output of the POD to match the desired level on screen and off you go. I have put a couple of recordings in the uploads board previously and so you can hear how it sounds from the way I do it. I am pretty happy with how simple it all works.
Adobe audition saves recordings as MP3's and you can add backing tracks, even have the backing track play through the computer speakers as you record (to do that you need to turn off monitor input in the advanced sound settings through control panel so you dont hear your guitar becuase of the lag)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 3 2006, 08:37 PM

Good thread with lots of information! biggrin.gif

Posted by: n0x Dec 5 2006, 10:43 AM

Indeed biggrin.gif

Adobe audition - Is that a recording software, or is it only used for "editing" tracks, etc. ?

Is it free? Where can I get it?

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