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Mark. View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 08:55 PM
Mar 11 2008, 08:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 847 Joined: 8-January 08	removed You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Mark.: Dec 14 2009, 10:19 PM

Hisham Al-Sanea View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 10:28 PM
Mar 11 2008, 10:28 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.085 Joined: 19-October 07 From: middle east / lebanon	if you want to write a song or a melody you should choose a key or scale for example like A.minor or E.Major or harmonic scales so you can try to play on this scale what you are choosed it. but you must have a little talent for composing a song . . go step by step as you said you need a sofware and i see thats you have it. you can compose a melody on GP5 but i dont know if you can treating with this software . you can do every things . if you dont know about how the functions so you can read that in the "help" . other thing if you have a knowlledge with staff notes thats temporary to start composing for improvising thats i can call it playing on stage . and thats comming from your creation and feelings so you have to start to compose a solo or melody as i said try any scale and go step by step i think you will have the result. have anice day... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- email me *my video lessons* *instructor board*

Tuubsu View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 10:49 PM
Mar 11 2008, 10:49 PM	GMC:er Posts: 795 Joined: 28-August 07 From: Lappeenranta, Finland	everybody knows scales are good, but myself I usually find them limiting me so I don't use them. I have composed only one song with a scale it was "Angel with broken wings" and the scale E mixolydian, and you can count from my signature how many songs I've done completely with ear. The thing I'm saying here is scales=good and scales=not a rule. I guess this needs a little imagination but I haven't got band and I only play the guitar, but I can imagine what the drums or keyboards would sound like, and I write those ideas down and test them every time I get to together with some fellow musicians... so far none of those Ideas have failed. So close your eyes and try to imagine. Maybe your being too harsh on your own creations for thinking they all sound like improvisations, theres no rule on what improvisation should sound like. Every time you come up with a melody or riff.... atleast for me their almost never perfect, thats why I recommend on playing those melodies/riffs like 100 times in a row and try different variations each time, you just might hit the jackpot that way. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Anyone can learn to play fast, like anyone can learn to type quickly. But not everyone can write a book. - Yngwie J. Malmsteen Idols: Jason Becker (ex-Cacophony, ex-David Lee Roth, Solo) Marty Friedman (ex-Cacophony, ex-Megadeth, Solo) Niccolo Paganini (Solo) Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen....Duh!) Frederic Chopin (Solo)

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 10:52 PM
Mar 11 2008, 10:52 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	1. You sing the melody you want and then you play it - it is the best solution imo. 2. Ideally you should write notes or tabs You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

chast View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 11:08 PM
Mar 11 2008, 11:08 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 807 Joined: 20-July 07 From: Germany	About that "Idea forgetting"-thing, just record every improvisation you do So you don't lose the vibe and you don't forget the idea You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "They play it extremely fast, it doesn't make any sense, but it's Slayer so it makes a lot of sense" :)

Kyle Logue View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 11:18 PM
Mar 11 2008, 11:18 PM	Drum instructor Posts: 273 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Nacogdoches, TX	Go Here and i'll try to help you out with a live video feed! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Trond Vold View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 11:19 PM
Mar 11 2008, 11:19 PM	Instructor Posts: 3.497 Joined: 16-February 08 From: Norge!	Writing melodies is really individual and can vary from song to song Sometimes you just get the melody you want in your head, and other times if you know what you want the melody to fit ontop of, you decide on a scale. I dont think there's any definite answer on how to write a melody. If you improvise a few times first, you can also get a melody emerging from that. As far as writing stuff down with no real music software, then you can always use free tools like PowerTab or Tuxguitar. Tuxguitar support multitrack, powertab is just the basic guitarpart. http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/ http://www.power-tab.net/guitar.php You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio Amp: Marshall JMP-1 -> Rocktron Velocity 100 -> Marshall JCM-900 Lead 4x12 FX and stomps: T.C Electronics G-Sharp, Korg SDD-1200, Emma Transmorgrifier, BYOC Tribooster, GGG Green Ringer, Dinosaur Overdrive, Voodoo Lab SuperFuzz, Sovtek Bassballs, Line6 Tap Tremolo, EHX Screaming Bird. ___________________________________________________ My Lessons! My Instructor Board! My Myspace!

Iluha View Member Profile	Mar 11 2008, 11:21 PM
Mar 11 2008, 11:21 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Mar 11 2008, 11:52 PM) 1. You sing the melody you want and then you play it - it is the best solution imo. 2. Ideally you should write notes or tabs These will be my suggestions as well You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

Dejan Farkas View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 12:46 AM
Mar 12 2008, 12:46 AM	Instructor Posts: 3.035 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Sarajevo, Bosnia	1. As Trond said the writing is an individual thing, but basically the difference between a melody and a improvisation is that improvisation is something common, something that will not draw your attention much because you heard something similar many times and it's just a bunch of phrases, while melody stands out, has some kind of meaning and it's original. So basically you need to find out what do you want to write, what do you want to say, what emotions to express and let the melody come out from your head, not from your fingers 2. The best is to learn notes, tabs are not so good since you cannot write the length of each note, just the pitch. Or to get some software like Reaper and to record all the ideas. I don't know how you function, but I cannot tell to myself that I will write a song and to do it. The melodies usually come itself. Some weeks ago, one evening, I was very tired and got to bed, and one melody started to play in my head, so I turned on the light, took a pen and paper and wrote it down because I knew in the morning it would be lost if I don't do so. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/dejanfarkas Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

steve25 View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 12:54 AM
Mar 12 2008, 12:54 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.197 Joined: 19-April 07 From: Wiltshire, England	QUOTE (Dejan @ Mar 12 2008, 01:46 AM) 1. As Trond said the writing is an individual thing, but basically the difference between a melody and a improvisation is that improvisation is something common, something that will not draw your attention much because you heard something similar many times and it's just a bunch of phrases, while melody stands out, has some kind of meaning and it's original. So basically you need to find out what do you want to write, what do you want to say, what emotions to express and let the melody come out from your head, not from your fingers 2. The best is to learn notes, tabs are not so good since you cannot write the length of each note, just the pitch. Or to get some software like Reaper and to record all the ideas. I don't know how you function, but I cannot tell to myself that I will write a song and to do it. The melodies usually come itself. Some weeks ago, one evening, I was very tired and got to bed, and one melody started to play in my head, so I turned on the light, took a pen and paper and wrote it down because I knew in the morning it would be lost if I don't do so. That happens to me so often, i hear something in my head but it's never in your bedroom when you've got your guitar in your hand is it? It's always at the checkouts at the supermarket or when you're at work/college . Thing is, i don't know how to write it down either because i can't tab something that i'm not playing. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Tuubsu View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 01:14 AM
Mar 12 2008, 01:14 AM	GMC:er Posts: 795 Joined: 28-August 07 From: Lappeenranta, Finland	QUOTE (Dejan @ Mar 12 2008, 01:46 AM) 1. As Trond said the writing is an individual thing I wanna actually put some weight on this point, cos I think I missed it in my post. If you ask around I bet you find out that people have so many different approaches on the matter. Me for example I don't think about anything(scales, chord progressions, keys etc.) about 90% of the time when I'm composing, I have it all planned in my head and I now in my head how the next part should sound so I make it sound like that and I'm sure there are some people who couldn't do it this way, because it's individual. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Anyone can learn to play fast, like anyone can learn to type quickly. But not everyone can write a book. - Yngwie J. Malmsteen Idols: Jason Becker (ex-Cacophony, ex-David Lee Roth, Solo) Marty Friedman (ex-Cacophony, ex-Megadeth, Solo) Niccolo Paganini (Solo) Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen....Duh!) Frederic Chopin (Solo)

Dejan Farkas View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 01:53 AM
Mar 12 2008, 01:53 AM	Instructor Posts: 3.035 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Sarajevo, Bosnia	QUOTE (steve25 @ Mar 12 2008, 12:54 AM) That happens to me so often, i hear something in my head but it's never in your bedroom when you've got your guitar in your hand is it? It's always at the checkouts at the supermarket or when you're at work/college . Thing is, i don't know how to write it down either because i can't tab something that i'm not playing. It happens to me as well, and then I sing it silently until I get home Tuubsu - you are right, you don't have to think about the theory and the technique, knowing them may help you to easier write and reproduce the sounds you hear You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/dejanfarkas Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

Mark. View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 06:49 PM
Mar 12 2008, 06:49 PM	GMC:er Posts: 847 Joined: 8-January 08	removed You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Mark.: Dec 14 2009, 10:19 PM

Fsgdjv View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 06:54 PM
Mar 12 2008, 06:54 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.255 Joined: 12-April 07	I have to say something about scales. Scales are good, and you gain a lot by knowing them, etc. But, when writing songs, I don't really pay attention to any scales, I just write something and then later figure out scales so I can tell the bass player what key it's in, etc. That's just one way of doing it, but it got a lot easier for me when I stopped thinking about scales when composing, and just play something. Ears are more important than theory, if it sounds good, it is good. If it looks good on the theory and sounds crap it's not good, but yeah, theory can also be really helpful at times. Just it's good to learn to ignore it. (This is all coming from a super noob who has only finished 2 songs in his entire life, so don't take what I say too literary) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Practice Agenda

Robin View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 07:02 PM
Mar 12 2008, 07:02 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.483 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Alta, Norway	QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Mar 12 2008, 06:54 PM) I have to say something about scales. Scales are good, and you gain a lot by knowing them, etc. But, when writing songs, I don't really pay attention to any scales, I just write something and then later figure out scales so I can tell the bass player what key it's in, etc. That's just one way of doing it, but it got a lot easier for me when I stopped thinking about scales when composing, and just play something. Ears are more important than theory, if it sounds good, it is good. If it looks good on the theory and sounds crap it's not good, but yeah, theory can also be really helpful at times. Just it's good to learn to ignore it. I completely agree. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Robin Myspace - Creep Colony Myspace - Creep Colony - Paralyzed

Nemanja Filipovi... Nemanja Filipovic View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 07:14 PM
Mar 12 2008, 07:14 PM	Singing Instructor Posts: 3.391 Joined: 23-January 08	take a simple chord progresion....A D A D A E...and if you can loop that in GP..and then as Ivan sad try to sing melody to that...I use an old Sony voice reccorder(tape)...and do exactly that...loop some progresion and than just sing the melody.....always do good for me You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my video lessons and instructor board! Participate im my new Crazy Blues Collaboration

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 08:57 PM
Mar 12 2008, 08:57 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Listen to Nemanja he is wise You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Capt.Z View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 09:50 PM
Mar 12 2008, 09:50 PM	GMC:er Posts: 999 Joined: 18-February 08 From: Detroit (unfortunately...)	Im learning modes. I took the lesson on pentatonic shifting. Just learn some boxes, and go from there. Good luck! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- GMC IS TIGHT DAWG

JVM View Member Profile	Mar 12 2008, 10:13 PM
Mar 12 2008, 10:13 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 2.878 Joined: 2-June 07 From: Raleigh-Durham, NC	Scales are a great place to start. But they will not make you a great guitar player, you have to learn to play with your ears. Marty Friedman for example, admits knowing very little about the theory side of music and plays by ear. Some people will tell you you'll be stuck playing pentatonics if you do that, but that's not true IMO (or at least if you listen to marty ). So I say scales are a good place to start... and they make a good guideline but don't necessarily follow them religiously. Therefore my advice to you Mark, is just to practice improvising and creating melodies. A safe way to start is to make melodies on one string. From there you can embellish them. But use your ears. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals.

Juan M. Valero View Member Profile	Mar 13 2008, 08:57 AM
Mar 13 2008, 08:57 AM	Instructor Posts: 4.270 Joined: 6-August 07 From: Girona - Spain	QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Mar 11 2008, 10:52 PM) 1. You sing the melody you want and then you play it. absolutely agree !!! the most important is to play with your mind, not with your hands You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit : www.myspace.com/juanmvalero Video lessons ; Instructor board ; Recording lessons

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