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Jan 9 2016, 07:53 PM
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Something like this would do ya
 http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-18i8 two mics and direct record would be no prob here. You could however, get the two channel usb version much cheaper, record direct an re-amp. but I've noticed people are very reluctant on that, especially at first. But yeah, that four input would take care of everything Too bad you cant find cheap 11 racks there. I usually record one mic through the xlr and then my 11 rack tone and dry tone all at once over usb. QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 01:29 PM)  Sorry, what I meant was you don't HAVE to use FireWire but it is compatible with FireWire but you can use usb. BUT I've since found out there is no USB only FireWire and ADAT so that unit is not for me anyway
 That's the kind of thing I will have eventually and another mic. Sorry for the confusion mate  |
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Jan 9 2016, 08:16 PM
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Thanks Mertay and Todd.
Actually Todd, THIS has just appeared. It's almost worth buying now and putting to one side until I've got the Peavey and the current mic sorted. But we know that would never happen, a new piece of gear sitting in its box??? No no no no  Can you record two mics and direct with the Elevenrack, I'm liking the idea of doing that eventually. Cheers UPDATE: Eeeeek, scrub that Elevenrack, £90 shipping so must be coming from the States.  OK, another test, bridge pickup on PRS Ace, clean channel on Blackstar with gain on full, first time ISF control all left, 2nd centre, 3rd all right. See if you can hear anything different other than the ISF, all other recordings have been done with ISF central. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/blackstar-full-gain-clean Some pics to see the difference to the Blackstar and a couple of none comparison pics      Thank you gentlemen This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 9 2016, 09:01 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 10 2016, 05:15 AM
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The 11 Rack has only 1 XLR input/mic preamp on board. So not meant for multiple mic recording. For that your looking at a dedicated multichannel audio interface
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 02:16 PM) Thanks Mertay and Todd. Actually Todd, THIS has just appeared. It's almost worth buying now and putting to one side until I've got the Peavey and the current mic sorted. But we know that would never happen, a new piece of gear sitting in its box??? No no no no Can you record two mics and direct with the Elevenrack, I'm liking the idea of doing that eventually. Cheers UPDATE: Eeeeek, scrub that Elevenrack, £90 shipping so must be coming from the States. OK, another test, bridge pickup on PRS Ace, clean channel on Blackstar with gain on full, first time ISF control all left, 2nd centre, 3rd all right. See if you can hear anything different other than the ISF, all other recordings have been done with ISF central. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/blackstar-full-gain-clean Some pics to see the difference to the Blackstar and a couple of none comparison pics Thank you gentlemen |
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Jan 10 2016, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 07:16 PM) See if you can hear anything different other than the ISF, all other recordings have been done with ISF central. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/blackstar-full-gain-clean The hint of reverb? |
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Jan 10 2016, 03:05 PM
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The reverb is set the same as the others but I angled the mic about thirty degrees point to the other cab and had the other cab running too. My ears aren't tuned in enough to know if you could hear the other cab at all.
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Jan 11 2016, 02:00 PM
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Peavey has arrived. I'll mic it up when I get home
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 11 2016, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 11 2016, 01:00 PM) Peavey has arrived. I'll mic it up when I get home Awesome!
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Jan 11 2016, 10:19 PM
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Ok, so far I think the cab sounds better than the direct XLR. Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference going from 1watt to 20 watts using the direct XLR.
I used my Mexican HSH Strat so I could use single coil on the clean tones (bridge and neck). I do think there is a lot of potential here Ok, here's some recordings with direct XLR: Clean Vol 5, bass, midd, treb all at 5, reverb at 3, Vari-class full a/b, master volume 8. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/clean-xlr https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/gain-5-xlr https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/gain-10-xlr https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/gain-10-with-boost-xlr And here are some with the mic. Clean vol 3 master volume 2.5. On the gain channel I could only run master vol at 1.8. All done in 5watt mode. Eq and Vari-class as above. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/clean https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/lead-gain-5 https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/lead-gain-10 Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 11 2016, 10:30 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 11 2016, 11:10 PM
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Thanks Mertay,
The cab was the Harley Benton. I used my Mexican HSH Strat so I could coil tap for the cleans. Apparently the direct xlr emulates a mic 8" away from cone. I haven't messed with the Vari-Class but I found it interesting that when using class A the power output can be reduced by up to 60% Thanks Mertay, I'm pleased with it and the new cab. I'm wondering if I should get rid of the other Blackstar cab. I can only go down to 8ohms with this head and in need 4ohms if I run two 8ohm cabs at once. When using the xlr direct I can't have the speaker on because the output is low so the volume knob has to be up on 8. Would the PreSonus work in between amp and interface so I can hear the cab? Is there anything you'd like me to try for you to hear? Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 11 2016, 11:18 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 12 2016, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jan 11 2016, 11:05 PM) When using the xlr direct I can't have the speaker on because the output is low so the volume knob has to be up on 8. Would the PreSonus work in between amp and interface so I can hear the cab? Could you open this a little? so the xlr and cab. can both work at the same time? Thanks Mertay, Yes you can output to the cab AND the xlr, there is a speaker defeat button on the back. You can also use headphones with the speaker on or off and the usb out with speaker on or off. I think you can actually use the xlr out, the usb out AND headphones all at the same time with the speaker on or off. I'll experiment but I won't let it have too much impact on my practice My problem is, I like so many different guitar tones I struggle to settle on one for myself and it changes with my daily mood  Cheers Phil Update: I've just remembered, when I got the PreSonus mic preamp, I turned down the mic preamp in the GT-001. I'll check that out as soon as I get chance
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 12 2016, 08:59 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 12 2016, 10:58 AM
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I have GAS for a purplish flamed maple top ibanez, with matching headstock, if such thing even exists
Edit: Also a Marshall full stack with my own concert room to crank it up 
This post has been edited by Fran: Jan 12 2016, 10:59 AM -------------------- Guitars:
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Jan 12 2016, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (Fran @ Jan 12 2016, 09:58 AM) I have GAS for a purplish flamed maple top ibanez, with matching headstock, if such thing even exists I'm sure Rob Balducci has one of those that he used for his Violet Horizon album. I'll try to find a pic
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 12 2016, 12:04 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 12 2016, 12:08 PM
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That's not exactly what you want Fran, but it is sweet. Mr Balducci's Violet Horizon RG
 Thanks Mertay, Don't forget I need to check the mic preamp gain in the GT-001 too Cheers Update: I had got the preamp for the mic input set very low in the GT-001 because I had been using it with the PreSonus. This is direct xlr again. Seems better to me. When you get five minutes please have a listen. Thank again for your time and patience. I'm going to experiment a little now so you will have some peace for a few days 1 watt mode. Clean vol 5, master vol 3: https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/clean-xlr-gt001-preamp-adjusted Gain 5, Master vol 2.8 https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/crunch-xlr-gt001-preamp-adjusted Gain 10, Master vol 2 https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/drive-xlr-gt001-preamp-adjusted-2 This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 13 2016, 08:56 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 13 2016, 02:03 PM
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Thanks Mertay
The gain in the GT 001 was on full and I still wasn't hitting 0db on the clean setting. I'll have a go in a day or two. Cheers buddy. Update. If you want to hear it with a backing look HERE It's not superb playing at all, it's a theory workshop but it's in a mix, it has some added chorus from the GT-001 too. Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 13 2016, 10:36 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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