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Posted by: bleez Jun 7 2015, 02:39 PM

Probably in the 'ear of the beholder' kinda thing but I thought it would be interesting to hear what different peoples idea of a 'perfect' tone would be.
The tone this dude has is probably one of the best Ive ever heard. Granted, if he is using some of the gear in the vid ( and why would you not! ) we are talking a '68 les paul and a dumble amp in the mix of other stuff so..... kinda exclusive stuff but, man, it sounds amazing!


any examples of your 'perfect' tone?

Posted by: Opetholic Jun 7 2015, 03:28 PM


Demo starts around 4:04

Posted by: Tom51 Jun 7 2015, 04:16 PM

Gregor Hilden is one of my favorites too. In this video he has a great tone only with an overdrive (okko) and delay (spacetime) and Fender amp.What a tone! Of course he plays a Fender Strat here tongue.gif



And this tone is also very tasty!


Posted by: bleez Jun 7 2015, 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jun 7 2015, 03:28 PM) *

Demo starts around 4:04

That's some proper metal cool.gif I was listening to 'jaws of life' from his suspended animation album, he sounds great on that track, not that he ever sounds bad!, but it sounds a lot like that tone.

QUOTE (Tom51 @ Jun 7 2015, 04:16 PM) *
Gregor Hilden is one of my favorites too. In this video he has a great tone only with an overdrive (okko) and delay (spacetime) and Fender amp.What a tone! Of course he plays a Fender Strat here tongue.gif


That is stunning!
I watch a lot of his videos on youtube and no matter what guitar he plays it always sounds amazing. He's ridiculously good.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jun 7 2015, 09:31 PM

Cool thread. I like all of the examples given here.

For me the amazing tone is the one that suits the mood of the backing/song and the guitarists playing style.

So its extremely 'relative' - and this is also the reason why using someone else's patch is not always the best idea (though it can be a great starting point).

Some examples of killer tones from our lessons - though very different.

Just listen to this (free software) based sound:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Ballad-Soloing-Dynamics-And-Phrasing/

Or this crunchy and super tight rhythm sound:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metal-for-beginners-Megadeth-1/

Stephs on-the-verge-of break up sounds are epic. You can find them everywhere in his lessons, this one has lots of them:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/25-Jazz-Fusion-Licks/

Guido's well defined and crunchy JSX hi-gain delivers everytime, and shows how expressive hi-gain can be. Example
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Dorian-Meets-Mixo/

Sorry if this turned into a plug, I guess I am preaching to the choir biggrin.gif

Posted by: Chris S. Jun 7 2015, 09:40 PM



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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jun 7 2015, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Chris S. @ Jun 7 2015, 10:40 PM) *


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That super mario sound is the best tone in he world and Herman Li is the best guitarist in the world!! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Posted by: bleez Jun 7 2015, 10:14 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jun 7 2015, 09:31 PM) *
Cool thread. I like all of the examples given here.

For me the amazing tone is the one that suits the mood of the backing/song and the guitarists playing style.

So its extremely 'relative' - and this is also the reason why using someone else's patch is not always the best idea (though it can be a great starting point).

Some examples of killer tones from our lessons - though very different.

Just listen to this (free software) based sound:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Ballad-Soloing-Dynamics-And-Phrasing/

Or this crunchy and super tight rhythm sound:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metal-for-beginners-Megadeth-1/

Stephs on-the-verge-of break up sounds are epic. You can find them everywhere in his lessons, this one has lots of them:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/25-Jazz-Fusion-Licks/

Guido's well defined and crunchy JSX hi-gain delivers everytime, and shows how expressive hi-gain can be. Example
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Dorian-Meets-Mixo/

Sorry if this turned into a plug, I guess I am preaching to the choir biggrin.gif


Great tonage is abundant with the GMC instructors. Its weird, I never used to care much for a single coil 'fender-ish' sound at all but over the last few years Ive totally got right into it. That Ballad lesson by Darius is a perfect example of awesome IMO.
maybe Im just getting old but goddamnit I want a telecaster!!

* I also think Herman Ri is cool ph34r.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jun 8 2015, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 7 2015, 11:14 PM) *
Great tonage is abundant with the GMC instructors. Its weird, I never used to care much for a single coil 'fender-ish' sound at all but over the last few years Ive totally got right into it. That Ballad lesson by Darius is a perfect example of awesome IMO.
maybe Im just getting old but goddamnit I want a telecaster!!

* I also think Herman Ri is cool ph34r.gif


Definitely getting old wink.gif

Posted by: Darius Wave Jun 8 2015, 08:29 AM

Fell honored to me mentioned as example smile.gif The "Single coil thing" seems to be common. I've been pretending Single doesn't exist for years but once that "switch" in my mind has switched and I bacame a fan of it smile.gif

Posted by: WeePee Jun 8 2015, 10:02 AM

QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 8 2015, 01:14 AM) *
...Im just getting old but goddamnit I want a telecaster!!...


Did someone mention a Tele ?

I want this soooooo badly tongue.gif

A Jim Root model

Posted by: Darius Wave Jun 8 2015, 10:14 AM

Haha tongue.gif I suppose it was not about "just looking like tele" tongue.gif Tele with humbuckersis no longer THE TELE people seems to grow-up to biggrin.gif

Posted by: WeePee Jun 8 2015, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jun 8 2015, 01:14 PM) *
Haha tongue.gif I suppose it was not about "just looking like tele" tongue.gif Tele with humbuckersis no longer THE TELE people seems to grow-up to biggrin.gif

Should we call it a modern day Tele ? laugh.gif

Posted by: Darius Wave Jun 8 2015, 10:36 AM

Hard to tell since we said time for tele comes when You're getting old biggrin.gif

Posted by: bleez Jun 8 2015, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jun 8 2015, 08:05 AM) *
Definitely getting old wink.gif

I would like to disagree..... but rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (WeePee @ Jun 8 2015, 10:23 AM) *
Should we call it a modern day Tele ? laugh.gif

that jim root tele is a beast!
2 humbuckers / 1 volume / no tone knob = no messing about! smile.gif

Posted by: Bossie Jun 9 2015, 05:06 AM

Gregor Hilden is also a private collector and seller of guitars....great guy that selects his stock carefully .
He does it with heart and soul....if you fancy a nice les paul or somthing else...check his page!!

http://www.gregorhilden.de/

Posted by: bleez Jun 9 2015, 08:27 AM

QUOTE (Bossie @ Jun 9 2015, 05:06 AM) *
Gregor Hilden is also a private collector and seller of guitars....great guy that selects his stock carefully .
He does it with heart and soul....if you fancy a nice les paul or somthing else...check his page!!

http://www.gregorhilden.de/


He has some of the nicest guitars Ive seen and he makes them all sound amazing. The guy is like a textbook definition of tasteful playing ohmy.gif

Posted by: Bossie Jun 12 2015, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 9 2015, 07:27 AM) *
He has some of the nicest guitars Ive seen and he makes them all sound amazing. The guy is like a textbook definition of tasteful playing ohmy.gif


i totally agree..and watching that vid you posted there makes me happy...that's a wonderful tone!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 13 2015, 07:39 AM

Some great examples!! smile.gif Big shock, here comes some heavy bits smile.gif

First up Eric Johnson with some single coil spiff smile.gif


how about COC with some very spiff KRUNCH/CHUNK and serious groove to boot.
VOTE WITH A BULLET


I just have to throw this in, as it's the start of my "Search for Tone" way back when smile.gif Just the Barrrruuuttttz


Posted by: bleez Jun 14 2015, 02:28 PM

Im kinda regretting this topic now. Its just highlighting how much my own tones sound like ass huh.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 15 2015, 01:39 AM

I'm liking your tone personally smile.gif Very organic and "Amp Sounding" not "processor sounding". Just keep pushing it smile.gif Adding a compressor is a great idea on lead stuff. Is there a Multiband Compressor on the unit?

QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 14 2015, 09:28 AM) *
Im kinda regretting this topic now. Its just highlighting how much my own tones sound like ass huh.gif rolleyes.gif


Posted by: Mudbone Jun 15 2015, 03:19 AM

This is my favorite solo on Youtube. I watch this every time I feel down about my playing, it lifts my spirits. Danny Roffe managed get an amazing tone from relatively average equipment - a Vox Tonelab and an Alesis Quadraverb. He also uses a DiMarzio Pro 54 noiseless single coil. This is equipment tone snobs will turn their noses up to in dismissal.

It just so happens that Danny Roffe is a beast on guitar, which helps laugh.gif


Posted by: bleez Jun 15 2015, 08:33 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 15 2015, 01:39 AM) *
I'm liking your tone personally smile.gif Very organic and "Amp Sounding" not "processor sounding". Just keep pushing it smile.gif Adding a compressor is a great idea on lead stuff. Is there a Multiband Compressor on the unit?

Thanks Todd. Im trying my best smile.gif Im considering adding a couple of tone city overdrive pedals in with the pod to see how it sounds.
It has a few compressors in the pod -
Tube Comp
Red Comp
Blue Comp
Vetta Comp
Boost Comp
might be one more, cant remember offhand.


QUOTE (Mudbone @ Jun 15 2015, 03:19 AM) *
This is my favorite solo on Youtube. I watch this every time I feel down about my playing, it lifts my spirits. Danny Roffe managed get an amazing tone from relatively average equipment - a Vox Tonelab and an Alesis Quadraverb. He also uses a DiMarzio Pro 54 noiseless single coil. This is equipment tone snobs will turn their noses up to in dismissal.

It just so happens that Danny Roffe is a beast on guitar, which helps laugh.gif



Damn that is some nice playing smile.gif

Posted by: MisterM Jun 16 2015, 06:48 PM

Hi Bleeze, Hi GMC

Greg is a greatest guitarist,
its tone is beautiful but I think acoustic out of his apartment made ​​things.
I can listen to music for hours



Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 16 2015, 08:23 PM

I had a Line 6 amp head (VETTA) that had a line 6 processor built in to it which was handy smile.gif The guys in Meshuggah used this same head on tour for a couple of years. It had the same exact set of compressors. I liked the boost comp and tube comp but they all did the job smile.gif Here is a quick tone test I did with the VETTA using some high/low gain bits.

It did a sort of DIME tone pretty well wink.gif It did cleans very well. Just couldn't make it Djent.



QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 15 2015, 03:33 AM) *
Thanks Todd. Im trying my best smile.gif Im considering adding a couple of tone city overdrive pedals in with the pod to see how it sounds.
It has a few compressors in the pod -
Tube Comp
Red Comp
Blue Comp
Vetta Comp
Boost Comp
might be one more, cant remember offhand.




Damn that is some nice playing smile.gif


Posted by: bleez Jun 16 2015, 11:08 PM

QUOTE (MisterM @ Jun 16 2015, 06:48 PM) *
Hi Bleeze, Hi GMC

Greg is a greatest guitarist,
its tone is beautiful but I think acoustic out of his apartment made ​​things.
I can listen to music for hours


So nice smile.gif He makes it look effortless as well. He really is a brilliant guitarist.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 16 2015, 08:23 PM) *
I had a Line 6 amp head (VETTA) that had a line 6 processor built in to it which was handy smile.gif The guys in Meshuggah used this same head on tour for a couple of years. It had the same exact set of compressors. I liked the boost comp and tube comp but they all did the job smile.gif Here is a quick tone test I did with the VETTA using some high/low gain bits.

It did a sort of DIME tone pretty well wink.gif It did cleans very well. Just couldn't make it Djent.

that was some beefy toneage! It really did clean up nice, that was a very cool sounding clean you had. The last one was like Rick Wakeman on steroids biggrin.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 17 2015, 08:12 PM

The clean tones were my fave thing about VETTA smile.gif I did like that you could do two amp sims at once and have each do something different. It did a great job on Dimebag type tones but I couldn't get it to tighten up without using a actual stomp box overdrive for boost and then pulling back the gain on the amp sim. I"ve owned the Vetta and the Pod XT so I've been able to get somewhat familiar with their internal options. If I remember correctly, the vetta had a graphic eq with sliders though which is a bit different and the XT used the older EDIT software which was a bit different than the HD edit.

Both of mine were previous gen units and the HD series is the generation after. Now they are on to yet another generation of algorithms with the HELIX. I did notice that many of the bits from the Vetta/XT seem to be still part of the HD in terms of what they are called, like the list of compressors. I wonder if it will stay the same on the helix?


QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 16 2015, 06:08 PM) *
So nice smile.gif He makes it look effortless as well. He really is a brilliant guitarist.


that was some beefy toneage! It really did clean up nice, that was a very cool sounding clean you had. The last one was like Rick Wakeman on steroids biggrin.gif


Posted by: bleez Jun 20 2015, 09:42 AM

Hey Todd, I was just watching your new soldano clone videos ohmy.gif WOW! you are getting some monstrous tones out of that.


are you playing it through and actual Randall 4x12 here? it sounds immense!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jun 22 2015, 02:50 AM

Thanks! smile.gif Yup, it's just the preamp going through a power amp and into the Randall 4x12. It's an ancient cab with the original Jaguar speakers in it (the ones DIME used waaay back when). I did another vid with it in the FX LOOP of my 11 rack. Turned off the amp section in the 11 and just used the cam sim. I was pretty shocked how well it worked. smile.gif




QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 20 2015, 04:42 AM) *
Hey Todd, I was just watching your new soldano clone videos ohmy.gif WOW! you are getting some monstrous tones out of that.


are you playing it through and actual Randall 4x12 here? it sounds immense!

Posted by: Sensible Jones Jun 22 2015, 01:30 PM

Can we have a 'Tone' based thread without mentioning Mr Timmons????



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Posted by: bleez Jun 28 2015, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jun 22 2015, 01:30 PM) *
Can we have a 'Tone' based thread without mentioning Mr Timmons????

LOL! probably not biggrin.gif He is a little bit good rolleyes.gif

I would also give a shout out to Steve Rothery. He's clearly went to the school of Gilmour but that's no bad thing cool.gif
Im not a massive fan of 'post fish' Marillion but I do like Mr Rothery's playing and tone.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jul 2 2015, 05:39 PM

Plenty of players with great tone. One that I always liked was Shawn Lane's:


Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 2 2015, 06:10 PM

Shawn Lane had killer tone smile.gif Most of it really was in his hands. He had a cool way of using fx too. He was a fellow Southerner and Georiga native smile.gif It was very sad to watch him slowly eat/drink himself to death though sad.gif

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Jul 2 2015, 12:39 PM) *
Plenty of players with great tone. One that I always liked was Shawn Lane's:



Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jul 2 2015, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 2 2015, 06:10 PM) *
Shawn Lane had killer tone smile.gif Most of it really was in his hands. He had a cool way of using fx too. He was a fellow Southerner and Georiga native smile.gif It was very sad to watch him slowly eat/drink himself to death though sad.gif


Didn't he suffer from some sort of disease or something that he got medicine for that caused his weight to increase? Can't remember exactly now.

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