Not Guitar Related: No Petrol Cars Uk 2030? |
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May 24 2021, 05:53 AM
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And then there's this as well.
https://www.motorious.com/articles/news/uk-...sic-car-buyers/ I also recently read about a new tax or fee for older cars that are driven x amount of hours per week or something to that effect somewhere in Europe. This post has been edited by AK Rich: May 24 2021, 05:57 AM |
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May 24 2021, 07:24 AM
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Yes, we know about it, personally I can't see them getting the infrastructure in place by then, the transition period will be a long one. Are the moment most car parks only have a couple of E charging points.
Ford have an electric Mustang out that is nothing like the "real" one https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e Porsche have one out that by all accounts is brilliant https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/taycan/ta...mp;gclsrc=aw.ds Jaguar have the iPace https://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pac...lsrc=aw.ds& All the above are fully electric, there are others, particularly in the smaller hatchback sector. I'm gonna miss the induction and exhaust music of performance cars 
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May 24 2021, 11:56 AM
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I'll miss not hearing a car coming up behind me when I cycling. Got quite a shock when a BMW i8 overtook me silently the other day
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May 25 2021, 08:26 AM
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The knock on effect will be HUGE eventually. Think of all the little independent garages that service cars, petrol stations will decline, the engine supply chain will be gone, hundreds of thousands of jobs, they can't all be replaced with battery making jobs.
I haven't heard about racing bans yet, the majority of our business is based on engines being rebuilt for performance, fast road, track days, racing etc, we're not involved in F1 any more. We had a big drop in work when the BTCC went from unlimited engines per year down to three. We supplied three teams, we used to make 120 parts three or four times a year for each team, now that's down to 12 components at the beginning of the year for each team. That had a hit on turnover so imagine the big supply companies, the raw material industries, oem component manufacturers etc. I seriously can't see the infrastructure being sorted. Even things like holiday home parks will need charging points for every home, they also need to address range and charging time, people don't want to be stopping for three hours on their journey to top up the battery. Lots to think about and I don't think the government have thought about it enough. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 25 2021, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ May 25 2021, 08:38 AM)  I think it's the right step to take, but whether it can be done by 2030 I'm less sure of. But I do like to see things like this being planned out, so we can care more about the planet. In my opinion we have nothing to lose as humans by caring more about the planet, instead of exploiting it. I think we need to be even better about that - from forest burnings to fossil fuel. I agree 100% with looking after the planet more but the lithium industry isn't all that good for the environment https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/...op%20irrigation. There is a fuel that is very green, and when burnt the only emission is water, it's called hydrogen. There are problems with storage as it is highly flammable https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-fuel-basics I saw a program recently and a scientist has developed a hydrogen paste cartridge that is safe and you could exchange at a garage (service station) as easily as putting petrol in. I can't remember the whole concept though, or production costs but that would be a great way to go. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 25 2021, 03:29 PM
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It's obviously the way of the future and we've known that for at least the last 40 years.
Out here in Cali we've been talking about 'green' energy since I was in elementary school. When they get the battery distance to 400 miles (644 km) or some seriously fast charging, I'm in. *I need to be able to make it to San Francisco (from L.A.) in 6 to 8 hours. Two years ago I bought what I'm assuming will be my last completely gas powered vehicle. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 25 2021, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 25 2021, 08:31 PM) Pay 30 percent in tax when you go to register the car to get a plate. You probably won't believe this but the registration tax for a purchase of a new vehicle (car) here in Denmark is 150%, only recently lowered from 180%. At least for cars over €26000 or so. "The registration tax applied to new cars in Denmark is value-based and amounts to 85% of the car's taxable value up to DKK 197,700 (€26,500), and 150% for the value above, according to the ACEA 2020 Tax Guide. The parties have agreed that an extra tier will be introduced, whereby a lower 25% tax rate will be applied to the car’s value up to DKK 65,000 in 2021. The 85% tax rate will then be applied up to the slightly higher value of DKK 202,200 in 2021, with the 150% rate above that level." https://www.thelocal.dk/20151120/whats-the-...gistration-tax/ This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: May 25 2021, 08:08 PM |
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May 25 2021, 08:04 PM
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I really don't think there will be an industry for small manufacturers of batteries, they will be mass-produced oem supplied and replaced. There wouldn't be any way that we could be world leaders as we are now known, the processes will be the same for all batteries.
I'm hoping that there will be classic motorsport based on the internal combustion engine for many years to come. The impact on the environment will be negligible once all of the petrol/diesel cars are off the road. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/weekend-...l-cars/3221786/ I can only think that we would have to go into general sub contract engineering but that would be a huge financial investment and a lot of wasted machinery like our in-house designed 600 ton forging press, all of our bespoke fixtures, jigs etc with many machines being modified by the manufacturer to hold the fixtures before being delivered to us. We can always revert them but as said, ££££££££ I'm pretty sure internal combustion engines will be providing us with an income for a long time yet. QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 25 2021, 07:31 PM) As a member of the industry that will be directly impacted, I wanted to ask if you are going to start making changes to your business??? -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 26 2021, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ May 25 2021, 08:25 PM) I've never even seen a car that is fully electric. Come to my neck of the woods  -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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