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GMC Forum _ Collaborations _ Muris's Free Colab No 2!

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 2 2009, 10:11 PM

Ok, we're having many members who have missed collab thread
this morning so I though it would be cool
to start another one right away. wink.gif

This one includes different backing tho,
it's from serial called Lydian Phrasing.

Same rules as for previous collab I mentioned, no copy,
do your own stuff but keep it Lydian of course,
E Lydian and Bb Lydian.

We have 10 spots for this, be quick!!

Here's backing track.
 Lydian_Phrasing__BT_90_bpm.mp3 ( 779.43K ) : 346


Participants:
enforcer
SonofDestiny
Smells
Outlaw2112
Zynex
opeth.db
Rated Htr
leedbreak
DeepRoots
JamesT
Post your takes in upcoming uploads thread of course,
I'll need mp3 with backing and mp3 without backing.

Posted by: enforcer Feb 2 2009, 10:27 PM

Please add me to the list biggrin.gif

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 2 2009, 10:29 PM

Muris,
What is the purpose of the Mp3 with and without backing?

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Feb 2 2009, 10:29 PM

I'm in smile.gif

Posted by: SonofDestiny Feb 2 2009, 10:32 PM

I'm IN! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 2 2009, 10:45 PM

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Feb 2 2009, 10:29 PM) *
I'm in smile.gif


I was thinking to give a room to guys who missed previous collab.
And you signed over there so would you mind passing on this one? smile.gif

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 2 2009, 10:29 PM) *
Muris,
What is the purpose of the Mp3 with and without backing?


I need to hear your take with backing cause
I might have troubles when mixing guitar only mp3s,
not everyone is exporting file from the same spot. smile.gif

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 2 2009, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 2 2009, 10:45 PM) *
I need to hear your take with backing cause
I might have troubles when mixing guitar only mp3s,
not everyone is exporting file from the same spot. smile.gif

Thanks for the info!! I am now enlightened!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Smells Feb 2 2009, 11:36 PM

I`ll give this a go please mate smile.gif

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 2 2009, 11:38 PM

Muris,
I'm on your fusion collab so you can take me off of this one if you need space for people who didn't get a chance to get in on the first one. smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 2 2009, 11:49 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 2 2009, 11:38 PM) *
Muris,
I'm on your fusion collab so you can take me off of this one if you need space for people who didn't get a chance to get in on the first one. smile.gif

Ohh, I didn't realize that!

Ok,you're off now but I'll get you back on the list if we don't get
more players soon enough. wink.gif

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Feb 3 2009, 12:02 AM

I would like to participate if there are any spots left...

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 3 2009, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:02 AM) *
I would like to participate if there are any spots left...

You're in. smile.gif

Posted by: Zynex Feb 3 2009, 12:09 AM

Count me in Muris smile.gif. Im currently practicing the Lydian phrasing intermediate lesson smile.gif. So Im pretty used to this backing track.

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 3 2009, 12:11 AM

Man I wish I had the talent to be a part of these.. sad.gif

Oh well..

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 3 2009, 12:13 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 3 2009, 12:11 AM) *
Man I wish I had the talent to be a part of these.. sad.gif

Oh well..

Opeth,
I saw your Improv from your SI lesson. You are PLENTY good to take part in these collabs. It isn't a contest, it is about learning. I say sign Opeth up Muris wink.gif

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Feb 3 2009, 12:19 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 3 2009, 12:11 AM) *
Man I wish I had the talent to be a part of these.. sad.gif

Oh well..

Yeah, just do it and learn from it...

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 3 2009, 12:23 AM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 2 2009, 06:13 PM) *
Opeth,
I saw your Improv from your SI lesson. You are PLENTY good to take part in these collabs. It isn't a contest, it is about learning. I say sign Opeth up Muris wink.gif


Thanks brother.

I guess Im just not sure even what to do. WHat I want to do I hear in my head but can not translate it to my fingers.
And when I see you all play my confidence goes down the drain...

I get the learning part but Its like a freshman wanting to play omn the senior football team.



Posted by: Toroso Feb 3 2009, 12:26 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 2 2009, 06:23 PM) *
Thanks brother.

I guess Im just not sure even what to do. WHat I want to do I hear in my head but can not translate it to my fingers.
And when I see you all play my confidence goes down the drain...

I get the learning part but Its like a freshman wanting to play omn the senior football team.



What you sed bro. And you're FAR better than I am.

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 3 2009, 12:30 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 3 2009, 12:23 AM) *
Thanks brother.

I guess Im just not sure even what to do. WHat I want to do I hear in my head but can not translate it to my fingers.
And when I see you all play my confidence goes down the drain...

I get the learning part but Its like a freshman wanting to play omn the senior football team.

Dan,
You just did a lesson on scales. Pick a box in the key your are working on for the backing track and start coming up with some licks. They don't need to be flashy or anything. The point here is to get your mind thinking about how to follow a chord progression, how to come up with licks. You can do it man. Remember my children analogy? laugh.gif laugh.gif JUST DO IT!! SIGN HIM UP MURIS!! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Toroso @ Feb 3 2009, 12:26 AM) *
What you sed bro. And you're FAR better than I am.

Toroso,
You have made a lot of progress just in the couple of months that I have been aware of your playing. You are doing the right thing. Don't be intimidated by someone who is "better" than you. We are all here to learn. Did you listen to the shredcast today? EVEN MURIS SAYS HE IS STILL LEARNING!! laugh.gif Keep working man and sign up for this collab!!

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Feb 3 2009, 12:46 AM

Its all about learning.... thats why we are all here

When is the deadline for this one?

Posted by: Rated Htr Feb 3 2009, 01:01 AM

I guess I can try it out smile.gif

Posted by: leedbreak Feb 3 2009, 01:06 AM

QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Feb 2 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I guess I can try it out smile.gif


if not full, I will do one.

Posted by: DeepRoots Feb 3 2009, 01:10 AM

Myself aswell please if we're not already full!

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 3 2009, 01:28 AM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 2 2009, 06:30 PM) *
Dan,
You just did a lesson on scales. Pick a box in the key your are working on for the backing track and start coming up with some licks. They don't need to be flashy or anything. The point here is to get your mind thinking about how to follow a chord progression, how to come up with licks. You can do it man. Remember my children analogy? laugh.gif laugh.gif JUST DO IT!! SIGN HIM UP MURIS!! biggrin.gif


Fair enough man.. I can try it. Although I am on baby watch this week so if you decide not to take me Muris it will be understood..

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 3 2009, 01:42 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 3 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Fair enough man.. I can try it. Although I am on baby watch this week so if you decide not to take me Muris it will be understood..

COOL DAN!! biggrin.gif Congrats on the boy as well, AWESOME!!

Posted by: JamesT Feb 3 2009, 07:15 AM

I'm in for this. ... if it's not already too late!


Jim.

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 3 2009, 08:03 AM

QUOTE (JamesT @ Feb 3 2009, 07:15 AM) *
I'm in for this. ... if it's not already too late!


Jim.


You're in James and we have a list.
Now let me open upload thread and start rocking. wink.gif

Posted by: SonofDestiny Feb 4 2009, 09:39 AM

Muris... I have never played modal stuff, so I have no idea how to approach this. Can you maybe give me a little help on this one?

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 4 2009, 12:33 PM

QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Feb 4 2009, 09:39 AM) *
Muris... I have never played modal stuff, so I have no idea how to approach this. Can you maybe give me a little help on this one?


Be sure to check out all 3 lessons from Lydian Phrasing Serial
and let me know if you need more assistance. smile.gif

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Feb 4 2009, 12:53 PM

Don't know if you read this on the chat, but it's perfectly fine that you took me off the list! smile.gif

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 4 2009, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Feb 4 2009, 03:39 AM) *
Muris... I have never played modal stuff, so I have no idea how to approach this. Can you maybe give me a little help on this one?


My thoughts exactly. I sat with this last night for 2 hours last night and came up with something but not pleased with it.

Maybe im in over my head here... huh.gif

Posted by: jer Feb 4 2009, 05:11 PM

dude, you are on to something.

Trust me.


Posted by: coloneldrew Feb 4 2009, 09:23 PM

Add me in, what's the deadline?

Posted by: JamesT Feb 4 2009, 09:32 PM

This is going to be a tricky one for sure since there's a lot going with the backing track and Muris's lessons based on this are stellar examples ... a tough act to follow.

I've memorized the Muris's three Lydian mode lessons, but honestly, there's no way I can play the intermediate or advanced at full tempo. I use them in my daily practice routine though, cause they contain great AP licks which is something I hope to get good at someday.

So my approach to this, and what I'd recommend to someone else who is new to modes, is going to be to first gain full knowledge of where the notes are for the two Lydian scales that are present in the lesson, then come up with a melodic solo using these notes/scales. I'm going to try to use fewer notes and to focus on melody since I really don't have the chops to play 32nd note AP runs at this tempo. Try the intermediate lesson and you'll know what I mean. I can play it really well now at half tempo, but that won't cut it for this collab. So I'm going to have to use fewer notes. Muris's beginner lesson is an awesome example of making fewer notes into a rocking solo and it sets a pretty high bar for sure.

Last night I jammed over this backing track for about a half hour and it made me see just how much of a challenge it is to come up with something cool that's focused on melody instead of technical achievement. You have to change your way of thinking about a solo instead of just finding the right key and letting it rip. (which is a blast but usually only works on a simpler backing track and for me at least, always ends up sounding the same). So this collab, my take will be about using fewer notes and still attempting to make it agressive sounding and interesting to listen to. smile.gif


Jim.

Posted by: lcsdds Feb 4 2009, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (JamesT @ Feb 4 2009, 09:32 PM) *
This is going to be a tricky one for sure since there's a lot going with the backing track and Muris's lessons based on this are stellar examples ... a tough act to follow.

I've memorized the Muris's three Lydian mode lessons, but honestly, there's no way I can play the intermediate or advanced at full tempo. I use them in my daily practice routine though, cause they contain great AP licks which is something I hope to get good at someday.

So my approach to this, and what I'd recommend to someone else who is new to modes, is going to be to first gain full knowledge of where the notes are for the two Lydian scales that are present in the lesson, then come up with a melodic solo using these notes/scales. I'm going to try to use fewer notes and to focus on melody since I really don't have the chops to play 32nd note AP runs at this tempo. Try the intermediate lesson and you'll know what I mean. I can play it really well now at half tempo, but that won't cut it for this collab. So I'm going to have to use fewer notes. Muris's beginner lesson is an awesome example of making fewer notes into a rocking solo and it sets a pretty high bar for sure.

Last night I jammed over this backing track for about a half hour and it made me see just how much of a challenge it is to come up with something cool that's focused on melody instead of technical achievement. You have to change your way of thinking about a solo instead of just finding the right key and letting it rip. (which is a blast but usually only works on a simpler backing track and for me at least, always ends up sounding the same). So this collab, my take will be about using fewer notes and still attempting to make it agressive sounding and interesting to listen to. smile.gif


Jim.

Well said Jim!!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 5 2009, 03:03 AM

You don't have to play lessons Jim, just Lydian scales, E and Bb! smile.gif

QUOTE (coloneldrew @ Feb 4 2009, 09:23 PM) *
Add me in, what's the deadline?


Sorry, it's closed now,
watch out for upcoming collabs tho! smile.gif

Posted by: JamesT Feb 5 2009, 04:03 AM

Hey Monte:
How come you're not in this one? ... oh now I remember that you're in the first one.
Looking forward to hearing your awesome take! cool.gif

No worries Muris. My take is going to be as original as I can make it. wink.gif


Jim.

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Feb 5 2009, 06:14 AM

QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 4 2009, 02:28 PM) *
My thoughts exactly. I sat with this last night for 2 hours last night and came up with something but not pleased with it.

Maybe im in over my head here... huh.gif

Yeah i came up with something also, but i just cant get it up to the speed i want to play it... Hopefully ill have it up to speed by the cutoff date... I have some long stretches in here that have made my forearm sore today

Posted by: Zynex Feb 5 2009, 09:59 AM

Im almost done writing the solo biggrin.gif. There are some speedy parts I still need to get more control over... but other than that I think I have something here haha. The only thing im worried about is that the solo might not come out the way I want cause of my poor recording gear sad.gif. But we will see. I wil post my take very soon smile.gif.

Posted by: Iluha Feb 6 2009, 04:22 PM

Ok so I just read I missed the first, but now I see I missed the 2nd as well? sad.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 6 2009, 04:33 PM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Feb 6 2009, 04:22 PM) *
Ok so I just read I missed the first, but now I see I missed the 2nd as well? sad.gif


Seems so sad.gif

But we're having new collabs like each day so stay tuned! smile.gif

Posted by: opeth.db Feb 8 2009, 10:19 PM

Hey Muris...

Im sorry but with my new son on the way here I haven't had time to work on tis. I regret that I have to give up my spot.

Maybe someone will take it off my hands.

With all the preparation goin on I just haven't had much time to spend with this.

Hope you understand Buddy,
Dan

Posted by: Muris Varajic Feb 8 2009, 11:30 PM

I fully understand Dan, no worries!!

Is someone else maybe interested? smile.gif

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