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Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 09:04 PM

I need some output on

the G-sharp.. Good effects? Worth buying? Good enough for live performance? etc...
http://www.thomann.de/se/tc_electronic_gsharp.htm

Tried searching for it but nothing came up.

Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 09:33 PM

no one?? =)

I´m looking at some separate effects now too...
One brand, BEHRINGER... Is way cheaper then others...
crap or good to start with?

Posted by: g-forcelover Nov 21 2007, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Mackietao @ Nov 21 2007, 03:33 PM) *
no one?? =)

I´m looking at some separate effects now too...
One brand, BEHRINGER... Is way cheaper then others...
crap or good to start with?


there good. nit the best, but cheaper. I plan on getting one soon. i'll tell you if there good or not.

Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 10:00 PM

I´m sitting here with 7 different effect pedals in my shopping basket..
And some adapters, cabels and stuff.. Only question.. Do I press order?
smile.gif I could use some toys since I only have a crybaby95 something..
I have money to spare too.. Hmm.. it´s like chorus, reverb, delay, phaser, flanger, volume and whammy..

mainly BEHRINGER stuff.. digitech and dunlop also. damn, I forgot tremolo. Have to look in to it too. Would be cool to build a board with sunken/carved places for the pedals and stripped cabels.. Maby 1 powerbutton for the whole thing. would be really sweet. Anyone knows if the signal gets too bad with so many things?

Posted by: MickeM Nov 21 2007, 10:14 PM

QUOTE (Mackietao @ Nov 21 2007, 10:00 PM) *
Anyone knows if the signal gets too bad with so many things?

It does.

Some stuff (pedals, amps) have bypass but whenever that term comes up there's always a never ending discussion on wether it's true bypass (the item turned off - pedal, effects loop - doesn't affect the signal) ot really not true bypass though it says so


EDIT: And I think Behringer is an alternative that's fair or good even though their things are copies. Looks at the pedals f ex, the ones I've peaked at always have a corresponding pedal from another brand and it's copied straight off to resemle that pedal so it's clear that "if you buy this pedal from behringer you're infact buying a Boss", or Ibanez etc. Still from my experience it's difficult to beat the price, I rather pay 19 Euro for a pedal that's a bit uglier and plastic instead of 70-80 Euro for the nicer metal one (the original).
If the plastic break I can make a metal housing for it.
Changing batteries is more difficult since the plastic pedal resist opening while the metal dito is smooth. But I can live with that.

Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 10:22 PM

QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 21 2007, 10:14 PM) *
It does.

Some stuff (pedals, amps) have bypass but whenever that term comes up there's always a never ending discussion on wether it's true bypass (the item turned off - pedal, effects loop - doesn't affect the signal) ot really not true bypass though it says so


So what you´re saying is if for etc the chorus pedal is not on it´s not really effecting quality.
Usually you do not use so many effects at one time. So my "rigg" might be okay.. I drawn it in my mind already.. haha

Posted by: MickeM Nov 21 2007, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Mackietao @ Nov 21 2007, 09:04 PM) *
I need some output on

the G-sharp.. Good effects? Worth buying? Good enough for live performance? etc...
http://www.thomann.de/se/tc_electronic_gsharp.htm

Tried searching for it but nothing came up.

And http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/TC+Electronic/G-Sharp/10/1 that piece reviewed

QUOTE (Mackietao @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 PM) *
So what you´re saying is if for etc the chorus pedal is not on it´s not really effecting quality.
Usually you do not use so many effects at one time. So my "rigg" might be okay.. I drawn it in my mind already.. haha

Yeah, for true bypass that is. I can guarantee the pedals you got there are not true bypass, so each pedal you connect in your effects chain will have a had influence on the signal - Each pedal will make the signal worse!
More expensive pedals may have it or pedals that were modified for it. Sorry to confuse you ot get your hopes up.

Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 10:49 PM

doh!

wonder if I will be able to hear the change just jaming at home...?
easy indeed to just use some longer cables to skip the ones you don´t want to use for the moment. But not really a good solution. damn it...
I can´t afford to buy all the stuff with high Q expensive original [poo]=)
And I´d really prefer individual pedals... What to do..
I had this digitech 2000 for some years ago and it was crap. So it´s never any effect that you need to pick distortion again. So maby something like G-sharp it is.. But that´s still just a budget thing too. And I probably won´t like the way you edit sounds and all.. Gah...
I might order these cheap things anyway and put some longer cables in the "boardrack" as well.

Edited for language - Andrew

Posted by: Mackietao Nov 21 2007, 11:09 PM

I bought them... So now I will have 10 different units at my feets...
Thanks for the help MickeM! Also bought a guitar holder. Like a case which you can put 5 guitars standing in.
I might upload a photo when everything is built and ready smile.gif

Posted by: MickeM Nov 22 2007, 12:01 AM

Alright! I'm pretty sure you will enjoy all your new pedals.

Mind that hooking them up to the amp is a different story. Goes in order for best result.

Delay, Chorus and such in the loop. Then f ex guitar->wah->dist->xxx->xxx in that order, placing a distortion last will give another sound but you should experiment to find what you like better.

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