Andrew's Theory Chat: music theory etc. 2007-06-10 |
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Andrew's Theory Chat: music theory etc. 2007-06-10 |
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Jun 14 2007, 04:10 PM |
11:03:11 Andrew Cockburn: Hello
11:05:21 Iluha: if someone gets in makes a soung like *meow* 11:05:38 Iluha: make* sound* 11:15:06 Andrew Cockburn: hi 11:15:16 Andrew Cockburn: i was in my own theory chat room 11:15:24 Iluha: yo 11:15:44 Andrew Cockburn: hows it hangin 11:15:57 Iluha: someone ever told you that you look a bit like the guitarists from Tenacious D? 11:16:04 Andrew Cockburn: never 11:16:07 Iluha: guitarist* 11:16:36 Iluha: in that picture in your avatar you do, atleast in my opinion .. im all fine, a bit sick, how bout you? 11:16:52 Andrew Cockburn: cool, just hangin out 11:17:18 Iluha: what the? 11:17:29 Iluha: steve vai's new album coming out in two weeks, yay 11:17:49 Iluha: and it's a double album 11:18:12 Andrew Cockburn: cool - i just got alien 11:18:18 Andrew Cockburn: my first vai album 11:19:29 Andrew Cockburn: I was just watching a vid on youtube 11:19:30 Iluha: i never actually bought an album, any album because iv'e been preety much economicly reliant on my parent till now 11:19:38 Andrew Cockburn: about his bulgarian influenced piece 11:19:47 Andrew Cockburn: I have thousands 11:19:53 Andrew Cockburn: been buying them for 25 years 11:20:04 Iluha: freak show excess i was the one who mentioned it on the thread 11:20:08 Andrew Cockburn: yes 11:20:13 Andrew Cockburn: thatwas it - awesome 11:20:35 Iluha: well, once ill get out of the army(in about 2 years) and start making money im planning on getting atleast 1 album a month 11:20:44 Andrew Cockburn: Good start 11:20:57 Andrew Cockburn: You'll build up a collection pretty quickly 11:21:06 Iluha: i might pre order he's new album now though 11:21:08 Andrew Cockburn: Go for quality not quantity 11:21:19 Andrew Cockburn: I want a Jem like his 11:21:27 Andrew Cockburn: Pavel has convinced me 11:21:33 Iluha: heheh.. 11:21:50 Iluha: this guy that workes in a guitar shop in my town has a jem 11:21:58 Iluha: it's all beat up i feel sorry for it 11:22:13 Andrew Cockburn: how could you mistreat a guitar like that ?? 11:22:58 Iluha: I'm the wrong person to ask I also mistreat my guitar. 11:23:06 Iluha: I got an RG prestige 11:23:16 Iluha: and I kinda negated the floyd rose heheh... 11:23:23 Andrew Cockburn: oops! 11:23:33 Andrew Cockburn: I want a guitar with a decent floating tremelo 11:23:41 Iluha: and I got it for 4 years now 11:23:45 Andrew Cockburn: COUld get an RG prestige, but would prefer a Jem 11:23:49 Iluha: I changed strings maybe 4 times 11:23:59 Andrew Cockburn: once a year? 11:24:05 Iluha: yeah something like that 11:24:47 Iluha: Well yeah I think a jem is better but not any jem 11:25:19 Andrew Cockburn: Jem 7v 11:25:24 Andrew Cockburn: in white 11:25:29 Iluha: I saw some jems that come with exactly the same pickups as my guitar, but my guitar costed about 250$ less 11:25:30 Andrew Cockburn: not the 555 11:25:53 Andrew Cockburn: The cheaper Jem is a waste - I'd rather have an RG prestige 11:25:59 Andrew Cockburn: the 7v is the real thing though 11:26:05 Iluha: yeah the jem 7v is awesome I think 11:26:29 Iluha: My dream guitar is a Paul Gilbert sig guitar 11:26:39 Iluha: but that's only because I dont get along with floyd rose 11:26:51 Andrew Cockburn: lol - I really want an FR 11:27:03 Iluha: what's an FR? 11:27:07 Andrew Cockburn: Floyd ROse 11:27:11 Iluha: oh 11:27:27 Iluha: most people seems to figure out how to get along with it 11:27:31 Iluha: I'm not one of them 11:28:00 Andrew Cockburn: I've restrung many guitars hundereds of times - with tremelos, without - never an FR but how hard can it be? 11:28:20 Andrew Cockburn: I think it is daunting to smeone that hasn't restrung a guitar before 11:28:24 Iluha: it involves alot of twiting and turning 11:28:32 Andrew Cockburn: yeah 11:28:34 Iluha: twisting* 11:28:44 Iluha: because you need to play with those springs 11:28:51 Andrew Cockburn: I'm up for it - they haven;t made a guitar I can;t restring yet - I satrted when I was 10 11:29:07 Iluha: I never restrung a guitar myself 11:29:24 Iluha: because I tried once restringing my Classical guitar 11:29:34 Iluha: and now I can't turn the tunning pegs :x 11:29:36 Andrew Cockburn: Electics are easy - nylon string is the hardest 11:30:01 Iluha: You have any idea what could be the problem with it? 11:30:21 Andrew Cockburn: if you can;t turn the tuning pegs - are they jammed somehow? 11:30:34 Iluha: I can turn them to loosen the strings 11:30:38 Andrew Cockburn: never had that problem 11:30:40 Iluha: but i can't turn them to tighten them 11:30:45 Andrew Cockburn: hmm 11:30:55 Andrew Cockburn: sounds like the tuners are worn 11:31:15 Andrew Cockburn: or do you have the strings waaaay too tight? 11:31:22 Iluha: I dont think so 11:31:36 Iluha: because the strings are still about 2 or maybe more steps below standard tuning 11:31:39 Andrew Cockburn: try a little light oil on the worm gears 11:31:52 Andrew Cockburn: sometimes they get driesd our 11:31:55 Andrew Cockburn: dried 11:32:37 Iluha: oh ok will try that ... I actually thought of that when it happend but I just forgot about the guitar heheh... thanks. 11:33:03 Andrew Cockburn: let me know how it works out! 11:33:57 Iluha: that frensesco ferari guy is of those reasons that shredding gets a bad name 11:34:13 Andrew Cockburn: Yes indeed - mindless speed with no musical content 11:34:48 Andrew Cockburn: I'd be happy to play at a 10th of that speed if I can get some good musical ideas across 11:35:10 Iluha: yeah.. 11:35:35 Iluha: jessus sometimes I feel ignored on the forums, my topic got 30 views and not even one reply 11:35:50 Andrew Cockburn: Which topic was that? 11:35:59 Iluha: on Muse 11:36:00 Andrew Cockburn: Remember, those 30 could all be guests who can;t reply 11:36:42 Iluha: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=4470 this one 11:36:56 Iluha: I really got into this band lately.. 11:37:31 Andrew Cockburn: You only posted it a few hours ago - most people haven;t had a chance to login or even get up 11:37:44 Andrew Cockburn: I'm checking out the vid now ... 11:37:53 Suib: Hey 11:37:57 Iluha: hi 11:38:17 Andrew Cockburn: Hi Suib 11:39:27 Iluha: muse's guitarist\vocalist is a great example that you don't need amazing guitar skills to make good solo's here and there 11:39:35 Andrew Cockburn: very true 11:39:53 Andrew Cockburn: 5 well selected notes beat 100 played really fast with no thought 11:40:05 Iluha: yeah 11:40:16 Iluha: I send Pavel a PM, we'll see if he comes 11:40:28 Iluha: sent* jessus i make alot of typo's today 11:40:51 Andrew Cockburn: Some days I just can;t type 11:40:54 Suib: wht are u talking about? 11:40:56 Andrew Cockburn: see ^^ 11:41:08 Andrew Cockburn: SHredders and Muse 11:41:16 Andrew Cockburn: ANy theory questions? 11:41:22 Suib: uh 11:41:33 Suib: not right now 11:41:37 Andrew Cockburn: 11:41:54 Suib: is this one of your scheduled chats? 11:42:10 Iluha: Im really tempted on clicking the Pre - Order Now button on steve vai's new double album 11:42:23 Andrew Cockburn: Do it ! 11:42:25 Andrew Cockburn: Yes SUIB 11:43:01 Iluha: I'm scared man I'm only earing about 80$ a month in this army :[ 11:43:02 Suib: he has a new one? 11:43:12 Iluha: yeah, coming out in two weeks 11:43:16 Suib: sweet 11:43:21 Suib: how much is it to preorder 11:43:27 Iluha: and it's a double so it's double sweet :} 11:43:31 Iluha: 25$ 11:43:48 Andrew Cockburn: that's 1/3 of your monthly income ... 11:44:06 Iluha: yeah 11:44:38 Iluha: If I buy it then i'll have to miss out on 1 party or night at a pub next month 11:44:46 Iluha: but i think it's worth it! *click* 11:44:52 Suib: haha 11:45:01 Andrew Cockburn: lol 11:45:34 Iluha: oh wait what 11:45:41 Iluha: it's mostly hes previous songs 11:45:48 Iluha: but just recorded with orchestra 11:45:54 Suib: o 11:45:58 Suib: no new stuff? 11:45:58 Andrew Cockburn: hmm 11:46:11 Iluha: there's a bit of new stuff 11:46:27 Iluha: 6 new ones I think 11:46:32 Suib: nothing you cant get off itunes 11:46:40 Andrew Cockburn: that's almost an albums worth 11:47:06 Iluha: Yeah and I think that For The Love Of God sounds awesome with an orchestra 11:47:20 Andrew Cockburn: BTW, I enjoyed that Muse track 11:48:10 Iluha: it has a somewhat Innovating sound to it's solo, atleast in my opinion 11:48:46 Andrew Cockburn: Yes, I think it was some sort of synth effect 11:49:31 Iluha: no 11:49:58 Iluha: it's basicly slides and pull off hammer on 11:50:15 Iluha: someone released a perfect tab of it 11:50:44 Andrew Cockburn: cool 11:51:40 Andrew Cockburn: Ive been listeniong to Eric Johnson a lot lately - love his musical and melodic style, bordering on Jazz 11:52:07 Suib: alright i have a question 11:52:15 Iluha: yeah he's one of my favourites 11:52:20 Iluha: he's sound is perfect 11:52:27 Andrew Cockburn: amazing clean sound 11:52:32 Suib: me and a couple of guys are starting a rock/jazz band... do you have any recomended keys for jazz? 11:52:37 Andrew Cockburn: trying to get a patch like it on my Pod but it is hard 11:52:45 Suib: like scales 11:53:01 Andrew Cockburn: Jazz isn;t about scales - they use the same scales as anyone lese 11:53:09 Iluha: oh noo....... the cd will cost me 50$ because of shipping! 11:53:15 Andrew Cockburn: It about phrasing, melodic progressons and chord sequences 11:53:20 Iluha: *cancel* 11:53:23 Andrew Cockburn: $50 !!!!! 11:53:25 Andrew Cockburn: ouch 11:53:25 Suib: lol 11:53:29 Suib: tht sux 11:54:00 Iluha: the shipping costs more then the cd lol 11:54:04 Suib: yeah 11:54:15 Suib: where are you located that it would cost that much 11:54:44 Iluha: in israel 11:54:50 Suib: o 11:54:58 Suib: yeah tht would do it 11:55:02 Iluha: but it doesnt matter any international shipment from that site will cost that much 11:55:21 Suib: o 11:55:50 Iluha: o well I'll just buy it when it gets on other sites like amazon or something 11:56:14 Suib: yeah 11:56:19 Suib: ok im going go 11:56:24 Suib: *going to go 11:56:25 Andrew Cockburn: seeya 11:56:28 Iluha: bye 11:56:39 Andrew Cockburn: and then there were 2 11:57:57 Iluha: I got some suggestion for me maybe on what songs to learn? I need something intermidiate 11:58:08 Iluha: why did I type I 11:58:11 Iluha: i meant you 11:58:38 Andrew Cockburn: lol 11:58:42 Andrew Cockburn: um 11:59:04 Andrew Cockburn: Depends what you like 11:59:17 Iluha: I like preety much everything 11:59:18 Andrew Cockburn: I sy=tarted out on 1 bar blues and then played a lot of Pink Floyd 11:59:24 Andrew Cockburn: 12 bar blues 11:59:27 Iluha: I even like christina Auguilera *hides* 11:59:31 Andrew Cockburn: LOL 11:59:38 Andrew Cockburn: She has a great voice 11:59:45 Iluha: yeah that why I like her 12:00:07 Andrew Cockburn: I just picked up anything I liked the sound of - if I couldn;t play it I came back to it later 12:00:11 Iluha: recently Iv'e started to think that vocal virtousity is actually harder to achive than any instrumental virtuosity 12:00:39 Andrew Cockburn: Vocal virtuosity depends more on what you have to start with, but after that it is practice and technique 12:00:58 Andrew Cockburn: I tried to learn to sing - I could get some of the technique down but I just don;t have aa pleasant sounding voice 12:01:32 Iluha: I'm thinking of taking lessons once I get out of the army 12:01:41 Iluha: But that is along side my plans to learn: 12:01:47 Andrew Cockburn: Definately - you don;t know until you try 12:01:52 Iluha: to play on drums 12:01:56 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:01:58 Iluha: slap and pop on bass 12:02:03 Iluha: the violin 12:02:04 Iluha: the sax 12:02:08 Iluha: I want alot :[ 12:02:11 Andrew Cockburn: Ambitious! 12:02:25 Andrew Cockburn: but you have a long time ahead of you 12:02:29 Iluha: yeah.. 12:02:34 Andrew Cockburn: Pace yourself, try something new every couple of years 12:02:36 Iluha: if Nuno could do it I can do it too! 12:02:58 Andrew Cockburn: Drop the things you aren't feeling and keep up with the ones you like 12:03:15 Andrew Cockburn: Violins the hardest 12:03:30 Iluha: realy? I was actually expecting it to be the easiest 12:03:38 Andrew Cockburn: You sound like crapfor 5 years, then one day you are a virtuoso -nothing in between 12:04:15 Iluha: I just seen so many 6 years olds beeing able to play it virtuosly 12:04:19 Andrew Cockburn: Because there are no frets, your pitching has to be absolute;ly exact 12:04:29 Andrew Cockburn: or you sound like an amateur 12:04:36 Andrew Cockburn: and that takes years to get right 12:05:01 Iluha: so maybe I'll leave it till last heheh.. 12:05:17 Iluha: oh he got my message! 12:05:43 Andrew Cockburn: Hi Pavel! 12:05:55 Pavel: oh ok now it's ok 12:05:56 Pavel: hey guys! 12:06:08 Iluha: hi pavlo 12:06:16 Pavel: lol "Pavlo" 12:06:57 Andrew Cockburn: What are you up to today Pavel? Another 15 hour practice session ? 12:07:19 Iluha: Pavel, you got a song suggestion for me? I need like an intermidiate shred song 12:07:28 Pavel: already practiced today - jsut finished the new lesson and it's up - waiting for Kris to put it live 12:08:07 Pavel: Intermediate Shred?!?! it's shred or it's not you know...at least how i look at it 12:08:29 Pavel: i don't know what's itermediate - everybody has his own "intermediate" level 12:08:42 Iluha: yeah but I mean song's like Tony Mcalpine's Tears Of Sahara 12:09:07 Pavel: really i don't know because i didn't play somebody's songs for 2 years now... 12:09:10 Andrew Cockburn: He - Pavel always calls himself intermediate - I wish I could be that intermediate! 12:09:48 Pavel: can't you jsut get another Tony's song? 12:10:16 Iluha: he's other songs are really packed with shred this one only has a couple of bits which aren't too complicated 12:11:25 Pavel: well i really don't know 12:11:46 Pavel: Satch is an intermediate shredder so i guess you can try some of his stuff 12:12:31 Iluha: I wouldn't call those crazy legato licks intermidiate 12:12:39 Iluha: well thanks anyways 12:12:45 Pavel: they are not difficult at all if you practice legato 12:12:51 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:13:06 Pavel: that's why i said - everybody has his own "intermediate" ... 12:13:41 Andrew Cockburn: I think yo are right - everyone wants to be better, so our current level is what we think of as intermediate 12:14:10 Andrew Cockburn: Even Rusty Cooley 12:14:19 Iluha: well, up until a few months ago I would rate myself as a beginer actually 12:14:20 Pavel: Rusty also sais he has tons of thigns to learn.... 12:14:34 Iluha: I think there will allways be more to learn 12:14:53 Andrew Cockburn: Yeah, that's how it works. We are beginners for a while, then we get to intermediate and stay there forever 12:15:01 Pavel: hehe 12:15:06 Iluha: steve vai said somewhere " it will take more then a liftime to master the guitar, or any other intrument" 12:15:06 Andrew Cockburn: but our intermediate gets better every week 12:15:29 Pavel: you know you can know how good somebody is comparing to somebody else 12:15:34 Andrew Cockburn: Rught - so if people like SV or RC are saying they can imporove, it has to be all relative 12:15:52 Andrew Cockburn: I guess so - relative 12:16:25 Pavel: Comparing to my city where i live i am a shred god but comparing to Luca Turili or Rusty i am an ULTRA SUCKY BEGINNER 12:16:33 Andrew Cockburn: LOL 12:16:37 Iluha: hehe 12:16:54 Pavel: that's true... sucks doesn't it? 12:17:15 Andrew Cockburn: yep - and its hard to be objective about yourself 12:17:20 Iluha: it took them 10+ years to get to their level 12:17:30 Pavel: Rusty plays for 24 years already 12:17:47 Iluha: it's just a matter of loving it and dedication 12:17:48 Andrew Cockburn: So, you ave another 15 - 20 to get that good 12:17:55 Pavel: yeah hahaha 12:18:02 Andrew Cockburn: my gues is you'll be way better by the time you are his age Pavel 12:18:07 Pavel: i hope i can make it faster hahahaha 12:18:20 Pavel: i guess so because i am learning from him NOW 12:18:25 Andrew Cockburn: Excatly! 12:18:26 Iluha: pavel how long are you playing? 12:18:31 Andrew Cockburn: Every generation gets better 12:18:34 Pavel: yes 12:18:49 Andrew Cockburn: In 20 years, kids just being born will be learning from you 12:19:13 Pavel: i am sure that kid that is 12 years old that joined GMC today (speaking figuratively) will kick my ass in 10 years... 12:19:16 Pavel: that's how it works... 12:19:20 Iluha: pavel how long are you playing? 12:19:28 Andrew Cockburn: "damn, I'm only 12 but I can play better than Rusty Cooley ever did. Gove me 5 years and I'll be able to beat Pavel" 12:19:43 Pavel: electric guitar for 4 and half years 12:19:59 Pavel: hahahahaha i wish i could read that somewhere hahaha 12:20:07 Iluha: wow, I allmost play as much as you.. and i really suck compared to you 12:20:34 Andrew Cockburn: Read Pavel' sig ... 12:20:42 Pavel: you know i have a signature on the forum of Prashant Aswani who said: "It's not how many years you play but how many hours!" 12:20:47 Andrew Cockburn: LOL 12:21:06 Andrew Cockburn: I guess we were thinking the same thing! 12:21:09 Iluha: yeah that is true 12:21:27 Pavel: if you bought a guitar and it is colelcting dust in the room corner - you're not playing it - but you walk around and say: "hey i play guitar for 2 years now!" 12:21:34 Pavel: but actually you maybe played it 2 hours... 12:21:36 Iluha: there has been this one year in which I havn't the guitar, at all 12:21:39 Andrew Cockburn: 4.5 years practicing for an hour a week is not the same as 4.5 years practiving 7 hours a day 12:21:40 Pavel: i think you got the idea... 12:22:01 Iluha: how old are you? 12:22:04 Pavel: 19 12:22:23 Iluha: your younger then me and im learning guitar from you cool 12:22:25 Pavel: And am still very sorry i didn't start playing earlier... 12:22:48 Pavel: but if i didn't move to Croatia i wouldn't start playing ever so i guess i am still ucky... 12:22:57 Iluha: I couldn't sweeps at all until I began practicing you'r lessons 12:23:06 Pavel: cool! 12:23:14 Pavel: Andrew - how are your sweeps doing? 12:23:20 Iluha: where are you originaly from? 12:23:24 Andrew Cockburn: Not good ... 12:23:25 Pavel: Ukraine 12:23:30 Iluha: oh privet! 12:23:33 Pavel: zdarov! 12:23:48 Pavel: ja tak i dumal chto ti nash potomushto imja ne evropejskoe 12:23:51 Iluha: I was born in kazahstan(back when it was the soviet union) 12:24:04 Iluha: moved to israel when i was 3 years old though 12:24:24 Iluha: ya toje znal shto ti ni nastayesh croatian 12:24:38 Iluha: nastayashi* 12:24:48 Pavel: hehe 12:25:12 Iluha: about 70% of my friends are "hahli" 12:25:26 Pavel: haha cool 12:25:39 Pavel: MY F**** GOD!! MY dog jsut started to bite my JEM!!!!! 12:25:43 Pavel: I'm gonna kill him!!! 12:25:45 Iluha: lol 12:25:54 Andrew Cockburn: runb! 12:25:56 Andrew Cockburn: run! 12:25:57 Pavel: He pretty much scarred the head 12:25:58 Andrew Cockburn: Save it! 12:26:04 Andrew Cockburn: shit 12:26:09 Iluha: he bit the head? 12:26:15 Pavel: yes!!!! 12:26:18 Iluha: how did he do that? 12:26:28 Pavel: you know what's the funny thing?? I'm laughing instead of crying right now 12:26:41 Andrew Cockburn: You'll be crying later ... 12:26:47 Andrew Cockburn: YOu are in denial 12:26:56 Pavel: i love my dog too much hahaha 12:27:11 Pavel: my guitar is on my bad right now, and i am turned towards PC so i can't see it 12:27:20 Pavel: and it's low enough for my dog to reach it 12:27:23 Iluha: that was my guess 12:28:09 Pavel: well i was not planning to sell it anyway - this guitar will always be in my colelction 12:28:23 Iluha: my dog would never bite my guitar hes afraid of it 12:28:40 Andrew Cockburn: It will make a great interview question when you are famous 12:28:48 Pavel: Maybe i sell my JEM to Andrew when i get famous ha?? 10,000$ lol lol lol 12:29:17 Pavel: yeah - interview with InstrumentalCase haha 12:29:24 Iluha: lol 12:29:45 Iluha: dave sometimes really scares me *hopes he doesnt see this* 12:29:45 Pavel: i think he can make an interview by just reading the chat logs - he has all answers here hahaha 12:29:55 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:30:14 Andrew Cockburn: He'll make a joke video using footage from all your lessons and a voice over ... 12:30:25 Pavel: hahaha right hahaha great idea 12:30:39 Andrew Cockburn: My name is Pavel - I am your god! 12:30:43 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:30:46 Pavel: "Check this shit!" 12:30:49 Iluha: hes dragonforce movie was sweet but hes yngwie movie sucked 12:30:50 Pavel: like Yngwie hahaha 12:30:52 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:31:17 Pavel: i pissed my pants watchign Yngwie movies hahahaha 12:31:42 Iluha: I only really liked one of em 12:31:49 Iluha: then one with "im your new god" 12:32:07 Pavel: hahha yeah that's a good one 12:32:23 Andrew Cockburn: "Its complicated" 12:32:49 Pavel: Andrew - what's the problem with sweeps? 12:33:04 Pavel: btw a piece of advice - don't be afraid of moving your hands - both left and right! 12:33:55 Andrew Cockburn: The problem is ... 12:34:24 Andrew Cockburn: Its a problem with all my metronome training at the momemnt - I get to a certain speed and I run out of enduracnece 12:34:35 Andrew Cockburn: I can play for maybe 10 second and then my forearm aches 12:34:54 Andrew Cockburn: So maybe I just need to alow down and practice more 12:34:59 Andrew Cockburn: Its frustrating 12:35:15 Andrew Cockburn: I can play at speed but for like 3 seconds, so I can;t practice enough to get any faster 12:35:26 Pavel: that's strange 12:35:30 Pavel: maybe you are too tensed?? 12:35:32 Andrew Cockburn: I am resting it for now as I also have a little numbness in my left hand 12:35:39 Pavel: never had problems with sweeping really... 12:36:00 Andrew Cockburn: I think I have a tendon problem or trapped nerve or somethging - gonna see the doc 12:36:20 Andrew Cockburn: Sweeping is the only technique I have ever come across that is like a brick wall to me. 12:36:35 Andrew Cockburn: Anything else I could get the hangh of to some degree pretty quickly 12:36:51 Andrew Cockburn: then practice for speed and accuracy - sweeps are my nemesis 12:37:05 Pavel: that's really strange... 12:37:42 Andrew Cockburn: yeah, I think they just need waaaay more practice than ahything else I have done 12:37:54 Iluha: back 12:38:45 Iluha: I got a problem with muting sweeps 12:38:52 Iluha: especially when doing the down stroke 12:39:17 Pavel: i jsut uploaded a Luca Turilli Style lesson - you'll be able to work on muting there 12:39:32 Pavel: it also has some small sweeps in it 12:39:49 Pavel: it's 99% alternate picking but it's killer stuff to work on muting 12:40:01 Iluha: ok i'll try that 12:40:24 Pavel: it will be online this week, Kris has to put it live 12:40:26 Iluha: my problem is that basiclly I mute the strings, but I mute them too fast I think 12:40:36 Pavel: cool - i guess the COP will be my avatar from now on haha 12:40:39 Andrew Cockburn: lol 12:40:41 Andrew Cockburn: I like it 12:40:51 Andrew Cockburn: ok guys, gotta run 12:40:58 Pavel: ok Andrew - see you around 12:40:59 Iluha: cya been nice chatting 12:41:02 Andrew Cockburn: see you! 12:41:32 Pavel: I'm tto hungry so i guess i am off to eat something 12:41:40 Pavel: too hungry 12:41:57 Iluha: ok come back later though ill probably still be here got nothing better to do today 12:42:05 Pavel: ok - i will 12:42:08 Pavel: see ya later than 13:34:34 Iluha: hey ezra 13:34:38 ezravdb: shit 13:34:41 ezravdb: im too late isnt it? 13:34:46 Iluha: for what? 13:34:50 ezravdb: theory chat 13:34:56 ezravdb: i just rad about it 13:34:57 Iluha: no it wasnt schedueld 13:35:04 ezravdb: oohhh 13:35:05 Iluha: the chat we had here 13:35:11 Iluha: i just pmed them both to come to the chat 13:35:18 ezravdb: allright then 13:35:50 ezravdb: man 13:35:55 ezravdb: I just wathced The Ring 13:36:01 Iluha: first time? 13:36:06 ezravdb: but I thought it would be scary like hell 13:36:07 ezravdb: yes 13:36:11 ezravdb: part 1 and 2 13:36:22 Iluha: yeah i also was dissapointed when i saw it.. 13:36:36 ezravdb: yeah 13:36:37 Iluha: other then horrible faces, it wasn't scary 13:36:54 ezravdb: yeah hehe 13:37:04 ezravdb: those faces were priceless 13:37:32 ezravdb: The Grudge 2 is scarier 13:37:40 Iluha: I didnt watch it 13:37:44 ezravdb: ok 13:37:46 Iluha: because the grudge 1 sucked so bad 13:38:06 Iluha: and thats even though im in love with sarah michelle geller 13:38:21 ezravdb: lol 13:38:34 ezravdb: go play guitar for her 13:38:44 Iluha: nah i suck lol 13:39:31 ezravdb: ok 13:39:33 ezravdb: well 13:39:42 ezravdb: I havent seen The greudge 2 13:39:52 ezravdb: I mean 1 13:40:03 ezravdb: so I cant compare : 13:40:06 ezravdb: 13:40:07 Iluha: good then you didnt waste 90 minutes of your life 13:41:26 Iluha: what are you practicing these days? 13:41:32 ezravdb: uhmm 13:41:46 ezravdb: recording 13:41:51 ezravdb: and some songs 13:41:57 ezravdb: Technical Difficulties 13:42:09 ezravdb: I'm near playing it perfectly 13:42:13 Iluha: o thats one i allways wanted to learn 13:42:18 ezravdb: still need to work on stamina 13:42:24 ezravdb: yeah its cool song 13:42:31 Iluha: and scarificed also 13:42:36 ezravdb: good example of E minor soloing 13:42:48 Iluha: and king of monsters heheh.. i like paul gilbert 13:42:53 ezravdb: me too 13:43:02 ezravdb: I like Scraming blues lately 13:43:09 ezravdb: I heard it today 13:43:19 Iluha: i never heard it 13:43:22 ezravdb: pretty cool solo 13:43:49 Iluha: theres this one album 13:43:55 Iluha: which i really started loving recently 13:44:04 Iluha: joe satriani's Super Collosal 13:44:11 ezravdb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1wukGwZRCs 13:44:17 ezravdb: yes! 13:44:21 Iluha: when it only came out for some reason I didn't like it but now I think its of his top 3 albums 13:44:27 ezravdb: I looked at the GP file of it today 13:44:53 Iluha: god damned pop up blocker 13:44:59 ezravdb: hehe 13:45:51 Iluha: who's tony lloret? 13:46:09 Iluha: oh heh now i get it.. 13:46:56 Iluha: I could never do those pinch harmonics 13:47:25 Iluha: for some reason I can do a pinch quite easily when I up stroke but not when I down stroke 13:50:23 ezravdb: weird 13:50:23 ezravdb: huh lol 13:51:01 ezravdb: first I pluicked the string with my index finger and the plectrum at the same time 13:51:02 Iluha: I'm guessing that I'm just STOPPING the string with my thumb rather then to just gently mute it 13:51:10 ezravdb: that can be 13:51:15 ezravdb: a possiblity 13:51:18 Iluha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo 13:51:30 Iluha: borat > me 13:52:57 ezravdb: he playbacks hehe 13:53:01 ezravdb: with guitar 13:53:53 Iluha: the funny thing about it is that he himself is a jew 13:54:03 Iluha: and that the entire starts to sing along lol 13:54:08 Iluha: entire bar* 13:54:51 ezravdb: yes 13:55:57 Iluha: You got some song suggestions for me maybe? I'm looking for something which isn't packed with shred 13:56:17 Iluha: something like in the beginner-intermidiate zone even 13:56:28 ezravdb: uhm 13:56:37 ezravdb: summer song maybe 13:56:41 ezravdb: or 13:56:41 ezravdb: by joe satriani 13:57:00 Iluha: or? 13:57:06 ezravdb: im thinking 13:57:10 ezravdb: my brains explode man 13:57:20 ezravdb: something from guns n roses 13:57:25 ezravdb: mr brownstone or something 13:57:30 ezravdb: mayb someting from freelicks 13:57:34 ezravdb: sweet child o mine 13:57:42 ezravdb: or that song from the scorpions 13:57:49 Iluha: which one? 13:58:00 ezravdb: youll see on freelicks 13:58:02 ezravdb: .NET 13:58:03 ezravdb: hehe 13:58:53 Iluha: ok thanks ill try that 13:59:13 ezravdb: tears in heaven 13:59:15 ezravdb: clapton 13:59:20 ezravdb: stairway to heaven 14:00:31 Iluha: tears in heaven is easy 14:00:40 Iluha: and stairway as well 14:00:58 Iluha: oh wind of change you mean 14:01:02 Iluha: allready know that one 14:01:07 ezravdb: ok 14:02:17 Iluha: oh that nice summer song isn't as complicated as I rememberd it being I think I'll try it 14:02:37 ezravdb: dont forget wahwah 14:04:19 Iluha: If only I had it heheh.. 14:07:41 ezravdb: 14:09:37 lefty01: hi everyone 14:10:47 Iluha: hi 14:10:56 Iluha: oh he left hehh 14:11:35 ezravdb: huh weird lol 14:11:42 ezravdb: i left too 14:12:48 ezravdb: soo 14:12:54 ezravdb: what do you find a scary movie? 14:13:29 Iluha: hmm... 14:13:51 Iluha: wow hmm... I can't think of one that really scared me heheh 14:14:03 ezravdb: saw 3? 14:14:15 ezravdb: that more disgusting hehe 14:14:20 Iluha: no i thought that saw movies were just COOL! but not scary 14:14:46 ezravdb: yes you can call it that 14:14:49 Iluha: curse of the castle dragon is another gilberto masterpiece 14:15:01 ezravdb: yes 14:23:45 Iluha: I think i'm gonna start working on both Summer Song and Technical Difficulties, might take a while but I'll make it 14:33:06 ezravdb: good luck 14:42:07 ezravdb: im glad you liked my lesson btw 14:42:12 ezravdb: on paul gilbert 14:44:19 ezravdb: what happened ? 14:44:37 Iluha: I accidently logged out 14:45:52 Iluha: god i suck so bad at sweeping 14:48:08 ezravdb: that sucks 15:15:31 AIB234: It surprises me that there aren't people in here more often 15:16:53 ezravdb: yeah me too 15:17:17 AIB234: We should start a thread to encourage people to hangout here more often. I'm sure we could have kiler discussions quite a bit 15:17:22 AIB234: or even just chat about whatever, you know? 15:18:49 ezravdb: yeha i think so 15:19:21 ezravdb: theres already getting more scheduled chats 15:19:40 AIB234: yeah I saw. still surprising there's no one ever in here otherwise, though 15:20:04 ezravdb: yes in the beginning there was always someone out there 15:20:12 ezravdb: or in here * 15:20:41 ezravdb: have you ever tried making a song? 15:23:50 AIB234: no I haven't 15:24:46 ezravdb: sometimes it pisses me off lol 15:24:52 ezravdb: when I have a beginning 15:25:07 ezravdb: and then I dont know what the hell I should make from it 15:25:23 ezravdb: or I only hear crap in my head 15:26:00 ezravdb: im glad I got my first one done 15:28:12 ezravdb: would you like to have your own song? 15:28:40 ezravdb: a good start is with jamming 15:28:58 AIB234: yeah 15:29:09 AIB234: the thing is that I don't play enough. i just don't have time to sit around for hours and play 15:29:20 AIB234: ironically once I go back to college I should have that time 15:30:00 ezravdb: haha 15:30:41 AIB234: And besides that, I haven't been practicing seriously that long. I am OK at alt picking, but I don't have scales memorized, can't tap, can't sweep... yet 15:30:59 AIB234: Are you going to/have you posted your song on the forums? 15:37:19 ezravdb: ok 15:37:20 ezravdb: yes 15:37:29 ezravdb: Its called Pentacrazy 15:37:31 ezravdb: hehe 15:51:16 AIB234: which forum/thread? 15:51:31 AIB234: I see one by you called A Funky Jam, but I do not think that is it 15:57:00 Iluha: back 15:59:04 Iluha: im not sure guests can type 16:00:18 ezravdb: no 16:00:21 ezravdb: they cant 16:01:33 ezravdb: AIB234 - Itsa called Pentacrazy , here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pouza9FsKjw 16:06:33 AIB234: I like it. Well done! 16:06:44 AIB234: Kind of makes me hate you a bit 16:10:07 AIB234: Out of interest sake.. what stuff did you start playing to get your left hand up to speed? 16:14:00 AIB234: I read Satriani and Legato on your comments... but there is no way I can play Satriano... I suppose I shall start with the Legato here at GMC 16:20:04 Pavel: good evening! 16:20:26 Slammer: sup dude 16:20:55 Pavel: anybody alive?? lol 16:21:01 Slammer: what's up dudes* 16:21:06 Slammer: 16:21:37 Slammer: anybody here? 16:21:45 Pavel: i guess only 2 of us 16:22:03 Slammer: most people leave when I come on 16:22:12 Slammer: :? 16:22:43 AIB234: ahohoy everyone 16:23:10 AIB234: I'm just busy looking at your first legato lesson, Pavel. I need to work up my left hand speed to match up my right. 16:23:28 Pavel: hey AIB 16:23:45 Pavel: have fun with those legato lessons 16:24:05 AIB234: Oh I will Is this what you would recommend to build my left hand speed to match my right? 16:24:38 Pavel: well if you want legato than right hand has nothing to do with it 16:24:44 Slammer: hey pavel there is something I've always wanted to ask you... 16:24:50 Pavel: go ahead 16:25:23 Slammer: do you know how to play Eugene's trick bag (or whatever it's called) 16:25:34 Slammer: from Crossroads 16:25:37 AIB234: Well... my right hand picks much faster than my left hand can fret so I would simply like to build the speed of my left hand. I was talking to ezravdb a bit and I think he would say legato is a good way to build simply my left hand speed. Would you agree with this? 16:25:41 Pavel: never played that 16:26:05 Slammer: I thought Every Steve Vai fan could lol 16:26:09 Pavel: i saw the movie but didn't play it 16:26:23 Pavel: i get borred playing someone's stuff 16:26:29 Pavel: AIB... 16:26:51 Slammer: that would make the coolest lesson ever IMO although it's Copyrighted 16:26:53 Pavel: you'll just have to sit with metronome and work on simply playing in synchronization with your right hand 16:27:11 Pavel: legato excercises will make your left hand stronger and more precise so it also can help with your problem 16:27:34 Pavel: there is no point inthat lesson as there are loads of tabs out there and you can learn it alone 16:27:47 AIB234: Alright thanks. I am quickly learning that speed is a very slow process 16:27:56 Pavel: Way toooo slow 16:29:50 Slammer: yeah you're right 16:30:22 Slammer: I think 16:30:31 Slammer: 16:30:40 Slammer: JK 16:31:13 Slammer: Welcome Brother Scott 16:31:14 Scott Gentzen: wow, that's a bunch of people. Hi all 16:31:23 Slammer: half of them aren't here 16:31:29 Slammer: It's true 16:31:36 Scott Gentzen: slackers 16:31:42 Slammer: only Pavel and AIB I think 16:31:58 Scott Gentzen: when I flip over to a different window, the chatroom app kicks me out 16:32:14 Slammer: 16:33:11 Scott Gentzen: I'm starting to get used to the dual-monitor setup at work. missing it when I'm home 16:33:13 Pavel: hey Scott 16:33:28 Scott Gentzen: there he is. hey pavel 16:34:23 Scott Gentzen: waiting on getting out to a family graduation party for a nephew of mine. 16:34:56 Iluha: hihi 16:35:14 Pavel: Here is my COP avatar!! 16:35:17 Scott Gentzen: part of me says I should be doing something with the guitar, but my right wrist is sore again. I don't think it's just the guitar that's hurting it, but it's not helping 16:35:21 Pavel: instructors should have that avatar hahahaha 16:35:42 Pavel: i hear too many people having pain in ther hands.... 16:35:51 Scott Gentzen: Remember: No Stairway 16:36:14 Iluha: how do you get your wrist soar? it never happend to me 16:36:34 Scott Gentzen: I've really only been giving my left hand a workout on guitar. I'm not good enough to beat up my pick hand 16:36:36 Iluha: maybe you'r trying too much to pick out of you "comfort zone"? 16:37:51 Scott Gentzen: It doesn't really hurt more during after a practice session, so I'm still thinking it's either my driving or my job. 16:38:15 Iluha: how can driving make your wrist soar? 16:38:39 Scott Gentzen: I should get some in-person lessons this summer so I can have someone watch and tell me if I'm doing something wrong. 16:38:53 Scott Gentzen: too much traffic. I tend to grip the wheel and push 16:39:00 Scott Gentzen: 16:39:13 Iluha: how bout you post a video of yourself and some of the pro's here could tell you? 16:40:10 Scott Gentzen: plus, it's more of a carpal tunnel pain which shouldn't be a picking problem 16:40:24 Scott Gentzen: that's a good idea. No camera though. Good reason to get a new Macbook though. 16:40:58 Iluha: I used to have this wierd pain here and there, I still get it sometimes, on my left hand's pinky 16:41:03 Scott Gentzen: "Honey, I need to buy a new computer so some guy in Croatia can tell me what's wrong with my picking technique" 16:41:18 Iluha: I'm preety sure it's because of crazy streching i'm attempting 16:41:56 Scott Gentzen: My reach is still pretty narrow. Working on improving it. Been playing with those Petrucci exercises. Just slower 16:42:10 Iluha: exactly the method i used 16:42:16 Iluha: the petruci strecthing exercises 16:42:18 ezravdb: hehe psycho exercises 16:42:34 Iluha: with them I found out that I can actually strecth more then in his exercises 16:43:08 Scott Gentzen: Yah. doign the one where the gap's between the 2 and 3 finger kills me 16:43:29 Pavel: pain in the pinky is a common thing when starting stretches... 16:44:33 Iluha: i can strech from 12th fret to 24th with first finger and pinky, not sure that too uncommon though 16:44:49 Scott Gentzen: eesh 16:45:09 Pavel: the point is to be able to play clean and fast while playing big stretches 16:45:32 Pavel: i can also try to stretch my d*** but is there any point in it?? 16:45:42 Pavel: lol lol lol 16:45:49 Iluha: i didnt say there was a point to it its just something i can do 16:46:17 Iluha: just like francesco ferari' songs, theres no point to em he can just play really fast hehe 16:46:36 Pavel: hehe 16:46:39 Scott Gentzen: I had to go check. I'm making it from 12 to 20. didn't expect that. 16:46:50 ezravdb: yeah he probably like playing fast A LOT 16:46:54 ezravdb: too much 16:46:57 ezravdb: yeha me too 16:47:02 ezravdb: 12-20 16:47:04 Pavel: can you play with middle and ring finger while stretching that far? 16:47:11 Iluha: i can 16:47:19 Pavel: ok - post a video 16:47:20 Iluha: 12-20 that is 16:47:20 Scott Gentzen: I can't play much of anything. 16:47:40 Pavel: make a decent lick with 4 notes per string - like 12-15-19-24-19-15-12 16:48:02 Pavel: it doesn't matter if it sounds like crap - just to see how clean can you play it 16:48:07 Iluha: with 12-24 i cant maybe with 3rd thinger but defintly without middle finger 16:48:16 Iluha: finger* 16:48:20 ezravdb: I can play 12-16-18-21 16:48:22 Iluha: i got alot of dumb typos today 16:48:36 Scott Gentzen: I spend a lot of time on pavel's 12-13-16 exercise though 16:49:09 Scott Gentzen: "small movements and pick like hell." still working on that 16:49:31 Slammer: hi guys! 16:49:36 Iluha: hi 16:49:43 Slammer: I'm back 16:49:56 Slammer: not that you care 16:50:01 Slammer: 16:50:15 Scott Gentzen: I didn't see you come back. 16:50:17 Scott Gentzen: oops 16:50:28 Slammer: well I never left... but I went out 16:50:39 Pavel: lol 16:50:46 Slammer: helped my aunt with gardening 16:50:50 Slammer: not to fun 16:50:54 Scott Gentzen: I gotta run though. time's up. need to take an alleve so I can function 16:50:54 Slammer: too* 16:51:02 Scott Gentzen: that wasn't much gardening 16:51:04 Scott Gentzen: 16:51:09 Slammer: I know 16:51:17 Slammer: that's why I'm back 16:51:17 Iluha: cya 16:51:40 Scott Gentzen: hah. well, have a good one everyone. will be back again sometime 16:51:56 Iluha: mm i never really tried that before hehe but icant make a 12-24 strech on strings other then high e 16:52:08 Slammer: 8) 16:52:24 Slammer: ouch... 16:52:43 Slammer: 16:53:06 Pavel: well - than you have a really huge hand 16:53:28 Pavel: i have a pretty small hand but i can comfortabely play 12-21 16:53:38 Pavel: benn practicing stretches a while now 16:53:41 Slammer: or a really small guitar :| 16:54:36 Iluha: yeah im a big guy overall.. 16:54:55 Slammer: what kinda guitar do you have? 16:55:12 Iluha: rg random number prestige 16:55:30 Slammer: Sweet 16:55:41 Iluha: not if you saw in what shape it is ;x 16:56:17 Slammer: I was having fun Jammin on a RG once at a guitar shop, untill the jerk who worked there came and told me to stop 16:56:30 Iluha: 16:56:56 Slammer: :| 16:57:01 Iluha: oi now my pinky hurts a bit heheh.. havn't tried this strech for a long time... because there's no real point for it 16:57:29 Slammer: some would say d'uh 16:57:39 Slammer: lol 16:57:44 Slammer: jk 16:57:53 Iluha: d'uh 16:58:42 Slammer: I wonder where Pavel went.... 16:58:51 Slammer: I think I scared him away 16:59:07 Pavel: i'm here 16:59:31 Slammer: practising more faces to make on his videos 16:59:42 Slammer: 16:59:46 Iluha: 16:59:53 Slammer: chin movement 17:00:03 Slammer: cool stuff 17:00:22 Pavel: haha lol 17:00:42 Slammer: so Ihula you from Europe? 17:00:47 Iluha: israel 17:00:58 Slammer: close enough 17:01:02 Slammer: lol 17:01:05 Slammer: JK JK 17:01:13 Iluha: i wish i was from europe 17:01:20 Iluha: sucks to live here ;/ 17:01:30 Pavel: i have a friend in Israel 17:01:33 Slammer: no comment 17:01:46 Slammer: 17:01:47 Pavel: he's also Ukrainian but moved to Israel a while ago 17:02:09 Slammer: does he play guitar too? 17:02:09 Iluha: theres like 30% russians in israel i think 17:02:15 Pavel: no he doesn't 17:02:20 Slammer: oh NVM 17:02:22 Pavel: i think more lol 17:02:35 Iluha: anyways the major part in israel that blows, atleast for me 17:02:49 Iluha: is the fact you have to waste 3 years of your life in the army 17:02:52 Slammer: there is about 90% Jewish people in Miami Beach 17:03:14 Iluha: and more then likely, in those 3 years youll be doing absoultly nothing beneficial 17:04:00 Slammer: I know someone who went to Israel, He was telling me about the Pizzas 17:04:08 Slammer: interesting 17:04:35 Iluha: the..pizzas? the junk food here is the best I had and iv'e been to alot of europe country's 17:05:16 Iluha: but when the best thing about a country is it's junk food, something isn't right 17:05:27 Slammer: I mean he said something about Meatless pizzas or something 17:06:15 Iluha: im sensing this conversation going to hell 17:06:20 Pavel: lol 17:06:41 Slammer: lol 17:06:57 Slammer: so what's the music scene like there? 17:07:18 Slammer: are there any Bad Ass shredders we don't know about? 17:08:08 Iluha: well yeah, there's allways bad ass shredders you don't know about 17:08:24 Slammer: how good? 17:08:39 Iluha: in my opinion really good 17:08:45 Slammer: Paul Gilbert good? 17:09:04 Pavel: there are always people better than Paul Guilbert but they are not famous 17:09:06 Iluha: well i have yet to hear an israeli play in the style of gilberto 17:09:29 Slammer: Head Banging over Humus 17:09:30 Iluha: there was this one guy who made a perfect yngwie tribute show 17:09:43 Slammer: I think there's a lesson on that somewhere 17:10:05 Iluha: yeah that guy is also an israeli.. though he's lessons don't really include shred 17:11:52 Iluha: יקרקד 17:11:54 Slammer: yeah It's pretty true what Pavel said... Every single country Has Really good Guitar Players that nobody knows about, And Most people will never find them 17:12:00 Iluha: ×¢×¢××™ 17:12:03 Iluha: ××™ 17:12:20 Iluha: my chat went insane 17:12:41 Iluha: anyways heres one of the most famous bands here, and one of the oldest too 17:12:45 Iluha: http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2EWWGHwEh0 17:13:41 Iluha: it's actually in english but whatever 17:15:03 Slammer: Pinch Harmonic 17:15:32 Slammer: squeal 17:16:05 Slammer: Aib234 went awol 17:16:15 Pavel: hey guys i gotta run! 17:16:17 Pavel: see ya around 17:16:20 Iluha: cya 17:16:38 Slammer: wow he's gonna run at this time of day 17:16:52 Slammer: 17:16:55 Iluha: what time is it there? 17:17:02 Slammer: I have no idea 17:17:05 Slammer: LOL 17:17:14 Iluha: i meant at your place ;x 17:17:22 Iluha: whereva your from 17:17:33 Slammer: 5:17 pm 17:17:35 Slammer: EST 17:17:40 Slammer: US 17:17:43 Slammer: FL 17:17:52 Slammer: Go Dolphins! 17:17:56 Slammer: : 17:18:00 Slammer: 17:18:36 Iluha: שית ן×ד 12 פצ יקרק 17:18:39 Iluha: מ×× ×©×¢×©×Ÿ×ž 17:18:42 Slammer: kljgl;fakjb 17:18:49 Slammer: LOL 17:19:14 Iluha: 'יקמ ן ×¢× ×Ÿ×ž ש הןגק××¥ 17:19:33 Slammer: And now I'm alone 17:19:37 Slammer: not... 17:19:41 Iluha: ך×ךך×ךשדשד 17:19:42 Slammer: maybe 17:19:46 Iluha: ך××ךךך 17:19:52 Slammer: WHY ME!!! 17:20:07 Slammer: alone again 17:20:09 Iluha: TEST 17:20:11 Iluha: ך×ך 17:20:13 Iluha: OMG 17:20:15 Slammer: not anymore I see 17:20:22 Iluha: WTF 17:20:25 Iluha: ×£[ 17:20:27 Slammer: KFC 17:20:44 Iluha: ×›×ר ד×צק רקשדמ×מ צט ×§×œ×§×˜× ×שרג ×¢×× ×“×ובל ×מ ×™×§× ×¨×§' ך×ך 17:20:48 Slammer: gosh man I can read that 17:21:04 Iluha: For some reasonfor some reason my keyboard is stuck on hebrew 17:21:23 Iluha: Good thing theres anti caps here 17:21:30 Slammer: LOL 17:22:35 Slammer: you know... every time I come on everybody ends up leaving right away 17:22:49 Slammer: it's true man 17:22:49 Iluha: Because everyones from europe 17:23:06 Slammer: So... 17:23:07 Iluha: When you sleep they celebrate 17:23:16 Slammer: Punks 17:23:23 Slammer: 17:23:34 Iluha: I would normally be sleeping now but im sick 17:23:43 Iluha: So i got # days vecation woopie 17:23:47 Iluha: 3 17:24:07 Slammer: Guest-9608 has entered 17:24:33 Iluha: I wish guests could also talk 17:24:37 Iluha: It would be more intresting 17:24:42 Slammer: One word of advice, if you haven't already signed up do it!! 17:25:05 Iluha: You cant type dont bother 17:25:13 Slammer: then we could see what you're saying 17:25:18 Iluha: Use tha t finger stamina on the guitar instead 17:26:01 Slammer: testing out the Away Feature 17:26:11 Slammer: cool stuff 17:26:17 Iluha: Theres an away feature? 17:26:27 Slammer: LOL 17:26:40 Iluha: ךשדח 17:27:10 Iluha: How do i go away? 17:27:18 Slammer: I got it!!! every time I ask the guest a question he put it on away for "yes" and off for "no" 17:27:31 Slammer: 17:27:31 Iluha: LOL 17:27:46 Iluha: Is your name harry? 17:27:51 Slammer: do you want to Sign Up?? 17:27:57 Slammer: LOL 17:28:05 Iluha: Was that a yes yes yes? 17:28:06 Slammer: Lol lol lol 17:28:19 Slammer: do you play guitar? 17:28:39 Slammer: Am I asking stupid questions 17:28:44 Slammer: Lol lol lol lol 17:28:52 Slammer: 17:28:59 Slammer: this is too much fun 17:29:05 Iluha: ישיש 17:29:08 Iluha: HHA 17:29:20 Slammer: Been playing 5 years? 17:29:26 Iluha: MORE? 17:29:33 Iluha: LESS? 17:29:37 Slammer: 4? 17:29:41 Slammer: 3? 17:29:48 Iluha: 3? 17:29:49 Slammer: YEAH!!! 17:29:53 Iluha: WEEE 17:29:57 Slammer: brb 17:30:08 Iluha: Your going to sign up today? 17:30:23 Iluha: TOOMAROW? 17:30:33 Iluha: Sorry for the caps my keyboard is fuked 17:30:49 Iluha: Ok toomarow it is 17:31:11 Iluha: Your from the usa? 17:31:23 Iluha: EUROPE? 17:31:31 Iluha: ENGLAND? 17:31:33 Slammer: back! 17:31:36 Iluha: HOLAND? 17:31:46 Iluha: GERMANY ? 17:31:50 Slammer: French 17:31:53 Iluha: FRANCE? 17:31:59 Slammer: italy 17:32:02 Iluha: SPAIN? 17:32:10 Iluha: CROATIA? 17:32:17 Iluha: ESTONIA? 17:32:27 Iluha: FINLAND 17:32:33 Slammer: Ireland 17:32:43 Iluha: ISRAEL? 17:32:49 Slammer: scotland? 17:33:04 Iluha: Brb trying to fix this problem 17:33:08 Slammer: wales? 17:33:20 Slammer: is it Eastern? 17:33:25 Slammer: Western? 17:33:26 Iluha: ×ק××§×“× 17:33:30 Iluha: ××§×“× 17:33:45 Slammer: Damn I'm not good at Geography 17:33:50 Iluha: asasasas 17:33:55 Iluha: yay 17:34:04 Iluha: denmark? 17:34:14 Slammer: Chech 17:34:24 Slammer: Slovakia? 17:34:36 Iluha: i give up 17:34:51 Iluha: how old are you? 20? 17:35:00 Iluha: less? 17:35:02 Slammer: switz? 17:35:14 Iluha: sweden? 17:35:19 Iluha: YEAH! 17:35:20 Slammer: YEAH!!! 17:35:25 Slammer: LOL 17:35:29 Slammer: 18> 17:35:30 Iluha: i win! 17:35:40 Iluha: 15? 17:35:46 Iluha: more? 17:35:46 Slammer: 18 right? 17:35:58 Iluha: less? 17:36:01 Slammer: 17? 17:36:09 Slammer: 17??? 17:36:17 Slammer: I win!! 17:36:20 Iluha: ! 17:36:32 Iluha: now... your mother name! is it rebeca?! 17:36:38 Slammer: LOL NO!!!! 17:36:52 Slammer: I know guitar... Strat? 17:36:58 Iluha: ibanez? 17:37:04 Slammer: Les Paul? 17:37:09 Iluha: gibson? 17:37:16 Slammer: LP 17:37:17 Iluha: oi you allready win 17:37:24 Slammer: : ) 17:37:33 Iluha: mmm favorite guitarist? 17:37:36 Iluha: steve vai? 17:37:45 Slammer: Hey proof 17:37:48 Iluha: yay i win! 17:38:05 Iluha: hes also a guest, for some unknown reason 17:38:09 Iluha: double the fun i say 17:38:43 Slammer: NO!! 17:38:47 Iluha: DAMN IT! 17:38:47 Slammer: oh well 17:38:50 Iluha: YES! 17:38:52 Iluha: Another one! 17:38:59 Iluha: are you the same one from before? 17:39:05 Iluha: oh lol 17:39:27 Slammer: sand timer for yes, no sand timer for No 17:39:35 Slammer: yes or no questions 17:39:45 Iluha: i know! lets do a quiz show 17:39:48 Slammer: let's go 17:40:03 Slammer: are you really the "Proof"? 17:40:14 Slammer: YEAH! 17:40:17 Iluha: the proof of aliens? 17:40:30 Slammer: are you a member? 17:40:40 Slammer: Hmm 17:40:46 Iluha: so hes a guest now because... 17:40:51 Slammer: butyou can't write 17:41:04 Iluha: oh 17:41:08 Iluha: your membership expired? 17:41:31 Slammer: Guest-6057 is from Sweden right? 17:41:40 Slammer: cool 17:41:54 Slammer: I guess it's not cool 17:41:59 Slammer: LOL 17:42:12 Iluha: why not? 17:42:33 Iluha: mmmmmmmmm 17:43:18 Iluha: buckethead was in gn'r True(sand clock) or False(no sand clock)? 17:43:30 Slammer: heh, this is so much fun, I figured out a way to communicate with the Guests 17:43:39 Iluha: guest 1 proof NADA! 17:44:23 Iluha: steve vai preformed with van halen true or false?! 17:44:34 Iluha: guest 2 proof NADA! 17:45:05 Iluha: slammer ask something 17:45:25 Slammer: Kris Dahl is good Player? 17:45:48 Iluha: theproof you gotta wake up!! 17:45:58 Iluha: your behind by 3!! 17:46:26 Slammer: is Brazil better than Japan (Soccer) ? 17:46:36 Slammer: hmm 17:46:48 Slammer: is japan better than Sweden? 17:46:52 Iluha: i dont know.. was it ever tested :x 17:47:18 Slammer: England better than German? 17:47:42 Slammer: Italy better than France? 17:48:05 Slammer: I'll take that as a yes 17:48:22 Slammer: ok dudes I gotta go 17:48:22 Iluha: a very enthusiastic yes 17:48:31 Slammer: CYA guys later 17:48:35 Iluha: cya 17:48:54 Slammer: hey guys sign up as soon as possible 17:50:06 Slammer: and Guest... When you get a screen name go to the forum and Private Message me and Ilhula and tell us who you are ok 17:50:22 Slammer: cool 17:50:26 Slammer: cya guys later 17:50:37 Iluha: ok back to the guitar quiz! 17:50:47 Iluha: if its ok by you guys? 17:51:08 Iluha: ok, mm lets see... 17:51:25 Iluha: satch was in deep purple true or false? 17:51:48 Iluha: 4 1! 17:52:26 Iluha: Yngwie Malmsteem was born in britain true or false? 17:52:48 Iluha: hehe that was an easy one 5 2! 17:53:48 Iluha: mm too bad i dont know much theory... yet... mmm 17:54:36 Iluha: who won more grammy's? Satriani(CLock) or Vai(No Clock)? 17:54:55 Iluha: 6 2! 17:55:13 Iluha: oh you says yes? 17:55:26 Iluha: 6 4!! then 17:56:23 Iluha: primus guitarist first name is: james(clock) or jason(no clock)? 17:56:54 Iluha: guest was that a clock or no clock? 17:57:19 Iluha: both wrong! 17:58:09 Iluha: OH WAIT! 17:58:17 Iluha: i was the one who was wrong haha.. 17:58:22 Iluha: hes name is actually larry 17:58:50 Iluha: ok heres a tough one. 17:59:18 Iluha: who was Blue Saraceano's teacher? Paul Gilber(clock) or Satriani(no clock) 17:59:35 Iluha: both wrong it was satch 18:00:44 Iluha: mmm.... 18:01:26 Iluha: according to wikipedia, why did Slash leave guns n' roses? 18:02:02 Iluha: was it a)Axel used a diffrent guitarist track instead of gilby clarke's in a concert?(clock) or was it 18:02:30 Iluha: b)Axel Used a Diffrent Guitarist track instead of Slash in a concert?(no clock) 18:03:10 Iluha: guest was that a clock or no clock? 18:03:27 Iluha: both wrong! again! 18:03:42 Iluha: if he would do that to slash, slash would have killed him 18:04:33 Iluha: ok heres a small GMC question 18:05:36 Iluha: which of the following 2 tutors here is from Sweden and which from Croatia, the tutors are Kris and Pavel. is it CLOCK) pavel croatia, kris sweden, or is it NO CLOCK)kris croatia, pavel sweden. 18:06:02 Iluha: both correct! 18:06:15 Iluha: 7 5 it is! 18:07:01 Iluha: mmmmmmmm 18:07:17 Iluha: ok heres an easy one 18:07:38 Iluha: does speed guaranty musical greatness? CLOCK)yes NO CLOCK)no 18:07:55 Iluha: good good 8 6 18:09:01 Iluha: does the guitarist from lostprophets can shred? clock)yes no clock)no 18:09:43 Iluha: HA! got you there he CAN shred.. when he wants to 18:10:25 Iluha: heres another easy one.. 18:11:15 Iluha: what's the most stereotypcly musical virtosity packed country? Clock)USA No Clock)Japan ? 18:11:42 Iluha: what? both wrong? 18:11:56 Iluha: its japan :X how could you think otherwise.. oh well 18:12:34 Iluha: mmm ok lets make a decided and then i gotta go 18:13:23 Iluha: hmmmm 18:15:46 Iluha: which of the following auditioned for Red Hot Chilli Peppers and did NOT get in: a)Buckethead b)Bumblefoot 18:16:08 Iluha: a=clock b=no clock 18:16:21 Iluha: which of the following auditioned for Red Hot Chilli Peppers and did NOT get in: a)Buckethead b)Bumblefoot 18:16:31 Iluha: a=clock b=no clock 18:16:59 Iluha: so you both say clock? 18:17:27 Iluha: ok so i take it as a no clock 18:17:32 Iluha: and your both.... 18:17:37 Iluha: wrong! 18:17:49 Iluha: bumblefoot didnt even audition :[ 18:18:21 Iluha: ok well guest you win! .... i hope you enjoyd and that you become a member soon 18:18:33 Iluha: pm me once you do good night 20:59:24 Slammer: what's up? 20:59:34 The Uncreator: Wow someone is actually here 20:59:39 Slammer: YEAH!!! 20:59:43 Slammer: Rare 20:59:46 The Uncreator: First time in awhile 20:59:46 Slammer: huh? 21:00:06 Slammer: well, everytime I come on, people usally leave 21:00:10 Slammer: LOL 21:00:13 The Uncreator: lol 21:00:26 The Uncreator: Maybe there afraid of your name 21:00:52 Slammer: I mean, Kris will be here having a great conversation, and then I come on and he's like "ok guys I gotta go" 21:01:02 The Uncreator: lol 21:01:12 The Uncreator: did you scare him? 21:01:16 Slammer: it's true man 21:01:28 Slammer: No, I'm boring 21:01:51 Slammer: I ask stupid questions 21:01:52 The Uncreator: next time you come in and people start leavin just say "if you leave now i will find you!!" 21:02:02 The Uncreator: followed by a threat 21:02:47 The Uncreator: what lessons you been practicin lately? 21:02:58 Slammer: well, half the people here are from Europe, long swim from Miami 21:03:16 The Uncreator: im about 3 hours north of Miami 21:03:17 Slammer: I like Kris's earlier stuff 21:03:26 Slammer: the 101 lessons 21:03:41 The Uncreator: yeah, i cant wait for him to do new lessons 21:04:04 Slammer: that's right, tampa you say... those damn Devil Rays... 21:04:13 Slammer: :| 21:04:19 The Uncreator: Meh, i dont follow sports 21:04:28 The Uncreator: so dam the devil rays! 21:04:33 Slammer: YEAH!!! 21:04:35 Slammer: LOL 21:04:53 The Uncreator: there coach came into my resteraunt and tipped us $40 21:04:54 Slammer: well, I practise guitar when I'm waiting for the games 21:05:04 Slammer: yeah really? 21:05:14 The Uncreator: yeah, nice guy i guess 21:05:18 Slammer: Maddon is his name I think 21:05:22 Slammer: right? 21:05:27 Slammer: Joe 21:05:27 The Uncreator: Hell i dont know 21:05:30 Slammer: maybe 21:05:41 Slammer: do you own the resturant 21:05:41 The Uncreator: one of the waitresses told me lol 21:05:46 The Uncreator: no i work there 21:06:00 Slammer: oh, sorry 21:06:23 The Uncreator: alright 21:06:26 The Uncreator: no problem 21:06:39 Slammer: what kind of Food? 21:06:51 The Uncreator: Seafood is what its famous for 21:06:54 The Uncreator: smoked fish 21:06:58 Slammer: nice 21:07:21 Slammer: is it called, Red Lobster? 21:07:26 Slammer: lol 21:07:27 The Uncreator: lol 21:07:28 Slammer: JK 21:07:29 The Uncreator: no 21:07:42 The Uncreator: its "Ted Peters Famous Smoked Fish" 21:07:51 Slammer: makes sence 21:07:55 The Uncreator: yeah lol 21:08:37 The Uncreator: Have you tried the Winding roads lesson yet? 21:08:50 The Uncreator: Marcus first one 21:09:25 Slammer: hold on 21:09:33 Slammer: ok 21:09:39 The Uncreator: ok 21:09:52 Slammer: I'm back!! 21:09:55 Slammer: anyways 21:10:01 Slammer: which lessons is that 21:10:12 The Uncreator: Marcus' first one 21:10:55 Slammer: oh yeah 21:10:59 Slammer: badass man 21:11:09 The Uncreator: yeah its givin me a bit of a challenge 21:11:11 Slammer: sick ass guitar playing 21:11:57 Slammer: Marcus has this very Professinal Quality about him 21:12:12 The Uncreator: yeah he writes great stuff 21:12:43 Slammer: I would say, overall he might just be the Best Instructor we have here, (by far) 21:12:56 Slammer: with Kris a close Second 21:13:00 Slammer: then Pavel 21:13:09 Slammer: then Gabriel 21:13:12 The Uncreator: i dont have favorites 21:13:34 The Uncreator: my favorites are Kris, Pavel, Sean, Gabriel and Marcus 21:13:41 The Uncreator: if i had to choose 21:13:43 Slammer: well, I'm talking Playing abilitiy 21:14:00 The Uncreator: Oh, then i would say Pavel or Kris 21:14:10 Slammer: Wait, I'd put Sean in front of Gabe 21:14:51 Slammer: as far as who was a better Player IMO 21:15:18 The Uncreator: Sean is really good 21:15:33 The Uncreator: i love Pending Closure 21:16:23 Slammer: yeah it's good 21:16:56 The Uncreator: I spent a few days learning it, in the wrong tuning i think to lol 21:17:09 Slammer: what about you? how well would you say you play 21:17:16 Slammer: honestly 21:17:51 The Uncreator: Hmmm, i dont know... what if i just say the hardets lesson i can play? 21:17:54 The Uncreator: good enough? 21:17:58 Slammer: ok 21:18:01 The Uncreator: ok hold on 21:19:44 Slammer: I'm Holding! 21:20:05 Slammer: what's up GUEST-3210? 21:20:15 The Uncreator: sorry someone is calling me sorry 21:20:20 Slammer: no prob 21:20:52 Slammer: one word of advice for guest.... Sign up Dude! 21:21:18 Slammer: it makes the chats alot funner 21:22:45 The Uncreator: Ok im back 21:22:49 The Uncreator: anyway 21:23:52 Slammer: yeah 21:24:03 The Uncreator: the hardest lessons i know are, Yngwie Malmsteen Lesson 4, and Metalhead solo lesson, an probably Pavels 3 string sweep lessons. some of them are sketchy, but i spent about 2 weeks on each of them 21:24:26 The Uncreator: i got most of them down pretty good 21:24:31 Slammer: I wish I could practise them more 21:24:43 Slammer: but My PC is in the Living room 21:25:01 Slammer: I can't play my loud amp 21:25:08 Slammer: HEXEM! 21:25:10 hexem: there we go.. 21:25:13 Slammer: welcome 21:25:19 The Uncreator: i get pretty good amon |
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