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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Prs Silver Sky
Posted by: Mertay Mar 8 2018, 01:40 PM
http://www.prsguitars.com/electrics/bolton/silver_sky
PRS's new attempt on taking share on the strat market. New cause its not the first, I never played one but remember they made many similar models in the past now discontinued.
The low horn cut is a bit too much but I liked the design. Wider fretboard isn't for everyone but it does have its comfort. As pricing since this is a signature model I'd guess they'll match American made Fender prices.
Posted by: yoncopin Mar 8 2018, 02:32 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/829z38/discussion_fenders_response_to_prs_silver_sky/
Posted by: Rammikin Mar 8 2018, 03:34 PM
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Last month Ibanez with their AZ series, now PRS. Aren't there already enough Super Strat makers?
Posted by: klasaine Mar 8 2018, 03:57 PM
You know, when they came out with the single cut I was like "come on, you guys have you're own very successful thing already" but now with the Strat copy ... please.
I never liked PRS guitars anyway, and now they piss me off.
Posted by: AK Rich Mar 8 2018, 06:06 PM
+1!!
Posted by: yoncopin Mar 8 2018, 07:27 PM
. Last month Ibanez with their AZ series, now PRS. Aren't there already enough Super Strat makers?
No, because still no one makes exactly the one I want
https://www.espguitars.com/products/20441-sn-1000ht?category_id=1967930-sn-series-guitars, but if I'm being nitpicky, I still want a 42.8mm nut and that volume knob needs to be in more the Ibanez position than the Fender position.Edit: On second thought, maybe the knob position is ok.
Posted by: Mertay Mar 8 2018, 07:35 PM
https://www.espguitars.com/products/20441-sn-1000ht?category_id=1967930-sn-series-guitars, but if I'm being nitpicky, I still want a 42.8mm nut and that volume knob needs to be in more the Ibanez position than the Fender position.Cool guitar! my pickyness would be that the bridge PU is a bit too far from the bridge
As for the strat invasion, yeah I agree we may be having too much of similar options. The smaller guitars would be interesting, stuff like strandberg or kiesel is doing.
I like S ibanez guitars (never bought one as it may be addictive) also the jackson dinky's body is 5/1 smaller. Thin or small bodys are light, resonant and doesn't look as bad if one plays standing and likes the guitars height closer to his/her chest
Posted by: Rammikin Mar 8 2018, 11:01 PM
https://www.espguitars.com/products/20441-sn-1000ht?category_id=1967930-sn-series-guitars, but if I'm being nitpicky, I still want a 42.8mm nut and that volume knob needs to be in more the Ibanez position than the Fender position.From the description: "Based on the traditional look of ESP’s Snapper guitar shape". It's a good thing they mentioned that. Otherwise, people might get the mistaken impression the shape is based on a Stratocaster
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Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 9 2018, 12:44 AM
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Posted by: yoncopin Mar 9 2018, 01:24 AM
Actually, maybe 42mm is ok. Ok, maybe I need this guitar... This https://shop.fender.com/en-US/squier-electric-guitars/stratocaster/contemporary-stratocaster-hh/0320222565.html#start=1is a really compelling one too, at $349 the price is right and they finally put a 12" radius on a Strat. 9.5" is an absolute no go for me.
Posted by: klasaine Mar 9 2018, 02:59 AM
The great thing about a 'super' Strat is that they're easy to do yourself (and/or with a tech) and you can pretty much get it done your way. As long as you dig the neck on an S style axe EVERYTHING else can be tweaked.
Posted by: AK Rich Mar 9 2018, 03:29 AM
I was going to mention this but you beat me to it so +1 again!
I would suggest a visit to the Warmoth site.
http://www.warmoth.com/
Posted by: yoncopin Mar 9 2018, 02:16 PM
I kinda learned that the hard way. The most expensive guitar I ever bought, my American Strat, has had virtually every part replaced to get it where I wanted it to be. Pretty much he only thing left is the body and bridge. I love it now, but it was kind of a big waste of money, I could've done it a lot cheaper. I don't need another guitar, but I'm waiting for someone to make the one I want for the price I want and I'd snatch it up. Mostly looking for a Strat with a flatter radius, double humbucker and hardtail. So, at least to me, there's definitely still a market for more super Strats.
I also did a lot of measuring of my current guitars last night. I found that I had been focusing on the nut width for a determinant of string spacing, but it turns out the string spacing at the bridge was probably a bigger factor. I have a Schecter that the strings feel a bit too close and it had both the narrowest bridge and nut spacing. I think that for me, a 42mm nut is just fine as long as the bridge is using more of a ~52mm trem spacing which the Hipshot on the ESP does.
I should probably sell my Schecter and get that ESP....
or I should probably just play the guitars I have which are all great...
Posted by: klasaine Mar 9 2018, 04:10 PM
You might want to try to find a Fender 'Big Apple' strat made from 1995 ish to 2003 (dbl 'bucker mod was common for NYC session players in the 70s and 80s - hence, 'big apple').
The five pkup positions are 1st, full neck humbucker 2nd, neck humbucker split coil closest to neck 3rd, both humbuckers together 4th, both humbuckers split on inside coil (a very convincing quack) 5th, bridge humbucker. The pickups are Seymour Duncan 59 in the neck and a Pearly Gates+ in the bridge. The pkups really work well together and these are outstanding instruments!
I can't be sure of the Radius of the 'big apple' but I have traditional american 'series' strat from 2002 and the fretboard has a 12" radius.
I assume string spacing is stock Fender - ?
I think after that came the 'Double Fat Strat'. Same pkups.
*These axes are also reasonably priced for USA made Fenders.
Posted by: yoncopin Mar 9 2018, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the tip!
The five pkup positions are 1st, full neck humbucker 2nd, neck humbucker split coil closest to neck 3rd, both humbuckers together 4th, both humbuckers split on inside coil (a very convincing quack) 5th, bridge humbucker. The pickups are Seymour Duncan 59 in the neck and a Pearly Gates+ in the bridge. The pkups really work well together and these are outstanding instruments!
I can't be sure of the Radius of the 'big apple' but I have traditional american 'series' strat from 2002 and the fretboard has a 12" radius.
I assume string spacing is stock Fender - ?
I think after that came the 'Double Fat Strat'. Same pkups.
*These axes are also reasonably priced for USA made Fenders.
Posted by: Mertay Mar 15 2018, 06:21 PM
It has a some-what consistent tone to me after watching a few demo video's. I actually liked how it sounds, deep but not fat or dark.
Posted by: klasaine Mar 16 2018, 01:57 AM
They all sound good.
They all sound like Strats.
If you played 3 different Strats, 3 dif PRS' and 3 dif Suhr' ... you'd get that variation. *I have 3 Strats with normal wound singles in them. They all sound different.
In that vid, for me, the Suhr sounded the least traditional. It has more of a midrange focus (not something I personally like in a Strat). It also sounded like no other Suhr Strat I've ever played. Curious as to exactly what pkups were in it.
I dug the PRS in the bridge position 'clean' and the neck/middle position 'clean'. Really articulate, balanced and jangly.
I liked the Strat for everything else and I didn't really dig that particular Suhr at all.
Posted by: Mertay Mar 16 2018, 09:48 AM
Yeah even when first head I immediately thought the Shur was more distortion focused. He didn't use loads of gain but in the final setting the Shur sounded tighter.
Though humbucker, few years ago I tried different pot, cap. values and PU mod's to get rid of that (less lower mid-bump feel and more highs). But the nicer the cleans got the harder it was to maintain a high-gain sounds.
Posted by: klasaine Mar 16 2018, 02:43 PM
That's why both Les Pauls and Stratocasters exist in nature
Posted by: Mertay Mar 16 2018, 05:10 PM
The highs were some-what manageable through the pedal but flattening that mid. bump never worked for me.
Without the experience one can't guess too much low mid (being bulky sounding on clean) could turn into such a tight sound on drive. Its basically the tubescreamer thing but hitting the pedal with that bump also has its benefits for high-gain.
That bump also doesn't exist on popular EMG models, even with the added output I've always felt the fretboard lighter with passive high-gain pickups.
Posted by: klasaine Mar 16 2018, 07:51 PM
This is one of the reasons that a very common mod on a Strat is to 1) slightly over wind the bridge pkup only and 2) put a copper plate under the bridge pkup, similar to a Telecaster bridge pkup. Slightly less 'spikey' highs, a bit more mids and a bit more output w/o really sacrificing the the in-between, bridge and middle tone.
Posted by: Mertay Mar 16 2018, 09:01 PM
Interesting! I'll keep that in mind
Posted by: Phil66 Mar 16 2018, 10:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uleWdBDmjNg
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