Gas. What Next? |
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Nov 1 2015, 06:47 PM |
OK,
I have all the guitars I want, (no more room ) and apart from changing the Epiphones for Gibsons and the Peavey Tele for a Fender Tele I'm wondering what I should aspire to next?? I've been thinking about a tube pre-amp. Would one be ok with the Boss GT-001? I don't really need another amp, I have 2 Blackstar 4x10 cabs, a Blackstar HT 1 R head and a Vox Lil Night Train head. I have some Tannoy 402 monitors, a Boss GT-001 with Roland EV-5 and a 24" widescreen monitor. No point suggesting an upgrade on my PC as that is what we class as household requirements Don't know how I managed that one but I did Cheers folks. Bring on the suggestions This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 1 2015, 06:53 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 1 2015, 07:50 PM |
Thanks, but as I said I don't really need another amp, I only have one Fender (Mexican HSH).
Here's the room Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 1 2015, 09:03 PM |
Interesting Mertay,
I've just sold an original pre 1978 Big Muff Pi because I never used it. I'd that the type of thing you mean? How about one of THESE? I can get a used one. Phil UPDATE: I've decided to go for a VDL Hotbird to run in front of the GT-001 This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 1 2015, 09:57 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 1 2015, 10:22 PM |
The muff is more of a distortion/fuzz type pedal almost replacing the amps tone. Overdrive is like hitting 11 when the amp is already set at 10 if we're considering shred. But take example an ehx soul food, blues guys only use it for a hardly noticable boost to sweeten their amps tone.
To be honest as long as its analog and adds some dirt its hard to go wrong. For the sake of testing, I'd recommend something affordable like a used boss sd1, ibanez ts9 or new joyo, mooer... That Nova should also work but I have no idea if you'll like it, also it might be a bit harder to sell it later. Thing is besides the pedals tone, an overdrive must be selected for the right amp/style etc. too... I like this video as its educative, might help; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKjhXWpjq8 For shred, Todd's channel is cool he recently tested the tightdrive from amptweaker and you can hear how it affects the tone. I'm sure you'll get the idea quickly, but when deciding to buy the first overdrive be aware its almost impossible to nail the right pedal at first attemt. Everybody I know including me changed or are thinking to changing their first bought overdrive pedal UPDATE: I've decided to go for a VDL Hotbird to run in front of the GT-001 Lol thats a super aggressive sounding pedal What I ment was more like getting the clean tone the guy is using on the video, notice the subtle breakup of the amp. Not saying it won't work but situation is like this; Using subtle overdrive pedals; the tone itself won't sound good or atleast amp-like, but it will work with any amp sim. as it isn't doing much to the tone so you get flexability. Using strong overdrive/fuzz pedals; Software amp must always be clean to slight breakup, you can tweak the pedals tone but can't jump to alternative distortion tones. Just give some thought into this, if you find yourself always using a similar tone (and its like the VDL sound) than cool I nowadays only use a metalzone thats boosted with a ts9 or bb9 for shred stuff. But if you still feel like there is some room to experiment then something that lightly drive might be better. |
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Nov 1 2015, 10:34 PM |
Thanks,
I've just been talking to Ace about the pedal, he says it's very versatile, use as drive, distortion or fuzz, lots of scope for variation. I've started thinking that maybe I could use it for drive tones, the GT-001 for chorus, delay etc and Amplitube for cab sim. Also I'm thinking when I have a blast on my tube head it will work well. Hotbird What you reckon? This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 1 2015, 10:48 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 1 2015, 11:38 PM |
Thanks, I've just been talking to Ace about the pedal, he says it's very versatile, use as drive, distortion or fuzz, lots of scope for variation. I've started thinking that maybe I could use it for drive tones, the GT-001 for chorus, delay etc and Amplitube for cab sim. Also I'm thinking when I have a blast on my tube head it will work well. Hotbird What you reckon? As I only watched 1 video and never tried the pedal its a bit hard for me to comment much on it, but if its capable for subtle overdrive than it should work fine. Extreme settings never blend well, like if the amp is too cracked then a cranked pedal would make it fuzz or dull...its always about balancing where a majority of tone is coming and what is supporting it. Yeah overdrive is very versatile for usage, since you have the gear can experiment with a lot of combinations (like wether the amp being analog or software). I don't know the vox but the blackstar has cab. outs so that might work well too. The whole idea is either getting some or all drive tone before the soundcard to get a more organic experience. I still like digital stuff but slided to the analog domain simply because of the feel on the fingertips, some do it specifically for tone. I just select a cab., use some eq on computer and ready to rock as my base distortion tone is already setuped by pedals. Like I said its really up to what budget you can use, just remembered for example Gabriel recently started endorsing Joyo pedals and he made a test video on husky drive. Joyo stuff is very affordable and good sounding for the price while that hotbird seems like nice boutiqe quality stuff. If you check any stores avalible overdrive pedals menu the list is huge, I don't want to recommend anything specific as I can never be sure if you'll like it. Would be easier for me if you couldn't make up your mine between a few products, then I would listen to your current tone or ask what ou listen or do you aim for a specific sound in an album etc...since you're not in a rush, take some recommendation from here or your local guitar store to atleast know the popular options some I named earlyer and listen them on youtube to get some idea. If still then you'll be certain on the hotbird then go for it |
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Nov 2 2015, 07:22 AM |
Thanks Mertay
I have to admit I hate trying lots of things. I always forget what the earlier things sounded like. Even written notes don't seem to help. It seems like a minefield with pedals which is why I went the multi fx route. I don't get much spare time so I try to make work what I've got or when I buy something I bite the bullet, buy something and get the best I can from it. My head is spinning just thinking of trying all the pedals Cheers Maybe I should get another guitar I'll find a way to fit it in -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 2 2015, 07:22 AM |
Wow Phil... congratulation to your guitar room... I am envious...
... and my wife is angry because I want to buy me a second guitar!! |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:06 AM |
Wow Phil... congratulation to your guitar room... I am envious... ... and my wife is angry because I want to buy me a second guitar!! Cheers you need to educate her in the priorities of life When I got married nearly 25 years ago I didn't have a guitar. Now I have those and my wife has bought me three of them. Maybe show her a picture of my room to show her how sensible you are. That might help persuade her This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 2 2015, 10:08 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:47 AM |
Thx Phil...
I try it with the picture of your room and on the sensitive manner... |
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Nov 2 2015, 08:44 PM |
Thanks Mertay,
I spoke to him again later on and I asked him, "Can the Hotbird do subtle breakup?" and his answer was "Totally. It can sound like a valve Channel" That video is interesting, thanks. The SD1 is so cheap I might get one too. It will be a couple of weeks before I get the Hotbird so I may get the SD1 in the mean time. I have to say, the Hotbird is a piece of art, it will look lovely on my desk next to the GT-001 You must have bought something in the past just because, well, just because If you watch the three video demos, the guitars all retain their character. I need to go the the doctors, I have GAS bad This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 2 2015, 08:46 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 2 2015, 08:51 PM |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:54 PM |
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 3 2015, 07:20 AM |
Cheers Mertay,
Glad you're warming to the Hotbird I agree it sounds too driven in the demo but I thought someone with his experience wouldn't do that and maybe the producer had got some recording input set too sensitive but I might be blowing outta my ass with that Cheers again -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 9 2015, 11:52 AM |
Hotbird ordered. Dispatch next Monday from Italy. I'm getting signed model number 8
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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