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audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 12:24 AM
Sep 17 2009, 12:24 AM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	Hi guys. I recorded an intro to my initial idea, and added drums and bass.. This is what I've got so far: Song_1.mp3 ( 3.29MB ) Number of downloads: 525 Please tell me what you think about it so far, what you'd like to change etc..? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Rated Htr View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 12:32 AM
Sep 17 2009, 12:32 AM	Experienced Rock Star Posts: 2.119 Joined: 15-October 07 From: Leiria, Portugal	Nice Intro Audio! Very melancolic entrance...At first there was a part that didn't feel right for me but I guess it was just the buffering Sounds very pink floydish for some reason...The intro I mean. Drums sound nice aswell, recording and mixing overall is nice. The second riff after the acoustic intro sounds very good, although I think the patterns for the connection could use some improvement. Do you mind explain how you recorded and what software you used, i really think your recording sounds good... Let's get recording more and complete songs please EDIT: Sorry, only noticed it was on the virtual band section now You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Rated Htr: Sep 17 2009, 12:33 AM -------------------- Currently Practicing Rhythm: Finnish Power Metal III: Nightwish Legato: Ben's Land Of Legato Alternate Picking: Alternate Picking Workout #5 Chords: Chord Melody Technique

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 05:35 AM
Sep 17 2009, 05:35 AM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	Awesome audiopaal great stuff, not much I could add, I'll start jamming along to your stuff see what I come up with By the way what software do you use? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 06:26 AM
Sep 17 2009, 06:26 AM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Sep 17 2009, 01:32 AM) Nice Intro Audio! Very melancolic entrance...At first there was a part that didn't feel right for me but I guess it was just the buffering Sounds very pink floydish for some reason...The intro I mean. Drums sound nice aswell, recording and mixing overall is nice. The second riff after the acoustic intro sounds very good, although I think the patterns for the connection could use some improvement. Do you mind explain how you recorded and what software you used, i really think your recording sounds good... Let's get recording more and complete songs please EDIT: Sorry, only noticed it was on the virtual band section now Thanks mate Yeah, it's a very melancholic intro but I believe it fits the song pretty good.. Pink Floydish.. THANKS, hehe I agree that the connection between intro and first riff needs a little polish. But we've only just begun, so hopefully that'll be better in the end QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Sep 17 2009, 06:35 AM) Awesome audiopaal great stuff, not much I could add, I'll start jamming along to your stuff see what I come up with By the way what software do you use? Thanks a lot Cool, do that and let us know what you come up with! Software used on this recording: DAW: Cubase Studio 5 Guitar: My electric guitar through a AMT Elctronics SS-20, straight into soundcard. Bass: My electric bass through a AMT Elctronics SS-20, straight into soundcard (Not optimal, but it works). Drums: Steven Slate Drums 3.0 Plug-ins: Cubase built in Compressor (just a little..) on the Output Channel, and a little EQ on some tracks. Nothing fancy, and I haven't mixed it properly yet either.. So I'm very pleased that you guys like the sound of it now, because it'll be much better in the end hopefully You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

MickeM View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 08:20 AM
Sep 17 2009, 08:20 AM	Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader Posts: 8.562 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Stockholm, Sweden	Again, great sound from the AMT You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My bands homepage All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 08:52 AM
Sep 17 2009, 08:52 AM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 17 2009, 09:20 AM) Again, great sound from the AMT Thanks QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Sep 17 2009, 01:32 AM) Do you mind explain how you recorded.. I believe I forgot to explain that part I usually start out with recording the guitars, to use tham as ghost tracks for the drums and bass.. Only one rhythm guitar is necessary. After that is recorded, I program the drums which usually takes a while When the drums are somewhat finished, I write and record the bass. After that I re-record all the guitars to make them fit the drums perfectly. After that I adjust volume on each track, and use small amounts of equalizer where I feel it's necessary. I might change a few things on the drums, changing cymbals and whatnot.. When I'm all happy with this I start mixing with plug-ins and try to make the best sound I can with what I've got Hope this explained it properly You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Iluha View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 09:13 AM
Sep 17 2009, 09:13 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	bass sounds a bit off at the intro but easy to fix. and I also think the verse riff should end on like an higher phrase, resembling what I recorded with the bass. other than that, I think the drums are great and the guitar sound is preety good and heavy too, this is a great start to working on this song You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 09:25 AM
Sep 17 2009, 09:25 AM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 17 2009, 10:13 AM) bass sounds a bit off at the intro but easy to fix. and I also think the verse riff should end on like an higher phrase, resembling what I recorded with the bass. other than that, I think the drums are great and the guitar sound is preety good and heavy too, this is a great start to working on this song I play a few extra notes (octave stuff) on the bass intro, so that might be the reason why it sounds off.. I'll have a listen again at the end of the verse riff and try your suggestion, although I think it will be better if it ends on bot a high and a low E (like the last riff).. But I'll try it out and see what sounds better Thanks Iluha You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

muntahunta View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 03:06 PM
Sep 17 2009, 03:06 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 783 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Newcastle	wow, im liking this more and more just a question though... which parts a going to require singing over? my idea would be (from what has been recorded there).... Intro Riff 1 (this would be the chorus) Riff 2 (this would be the verse) or is there going to be more parts to it? ----------edit---------- actually after listening to it over, i think riff 1 would be an excellent verse and Riff 2 an excellent pre-chorus or break You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by muntahunta: Sep 17 2009, 03:08 PM -------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 03:28 PM
Sep 17 2009, 03:28 PM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (muntahunta @ Sep 17 2009, 04:06 PM) wow, im liking this more and more ----------edit---------- actually after listening to it over, i think riff 1 would be an excellent verse and Riff 2 an excellent pre-chorus or break Thanks Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well! We just need to make a kickass chorus and we're set You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

muntahunta View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 04:01 PM
Sep 17 2009, 04:01 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 783 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Newcastle	QUOTE (audiopaal @ Sep 17 2009, 03:28 PM) Thanks Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well! We just need to make a kickass chorus and we're set ill try and write a melody for the verse part so you can see the idea i have for it... the words will come later, for now i'll just make random lines lol ok, ive done a really quick verse recording of that, obviously its not great quality, i didnt bother setting up the things i'd usually record with since were still in the writing phase. If theres any good or bad comments feel free to change things, and the lyrics are just 5 seconds worth of writing lol. song1withvox1.mp3 ( 1.97MB ) Number of downloads: 346 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson

Iluha View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 07:19 PM
Sep 17 2009, 07:19 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	It sounded more like a chorus than a verse.. and the second riff as a transfer to the verse. I think the singing melody is fine for the first half of the chorus but on the other half it's just begging to change to be interesting. Anyways I'm a bit confused, what exactly are we doing right now? are we getting like a sketch for the entire song and than start recording it seriously or what? :s You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 09:06 PM
Sep 17 2009, 09:06 PM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	I liked that If it'll be verse or chorus we have to decide once all the riffs have been written I like it as a verse though, at least for now! What are we doing right now.. We're getting the parts down and when we all agree on the riffs and the order of them we start recording seriously If no one else has a better plan? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

muntahunta View Member Profile	Sep 17 2009, 11:49 PM
Sep 17 2009, 11:49 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 783 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Newcastle	im happy with that.... anyone heard from colonel drew? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 18 2009, 07:57 AM
Sep 18 2009, 07:57 AM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (muntahunta @ Sep 18 2009, 12:49 AM) im happy with that.... anyone heard from colonel drew? No.. Haven't heard from him at all.. I'll be recording some more this weekend, trying to get the final parts down. I'm going to post it here on saturday or sunday, and then we can begin discussing what parts are good, bad, needs changing etc.. If anyone else has a great idea for a riff that could fit the song, please record it and post it here! Sounds good to everyone? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 19 2009, 04:48 PM
Sep 19 2009, 04:48 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 17 2009, 02:19 PM) It sounded more like a chorus than a verse.. and the second riff as a transfer to the verse. I think the singing melody is fine for the first half of the chorus but on the other half it's just begging to change to be interesting. Anyways I'm a bit confused, what exactly are we doing right now? are we getting like a sketch for the entire song and than start recording it seriously or what? :s I Agree with Iluha here, it is good stuff for a chorus or like a bridge. Verses should be more laid back, we want to have contrast between chorus and verses. Normally by singing lower and more laid back on the verses and by bringing out the agressive vocals or higher pitch in the chorus. Or maybe this could be one of the verses but later on. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 19 2009, 07:51 PM
Sep 19 2009, 07:51 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	So this is my suggestion, I had to do some drums and stuff so that you get the idea, but Audiopaals drums are fine. So after the intro we start with the main riff, and everything should sound big, right after when the guitar goes down I say we do the riff with palm muting, I changed it a little bit but doesn't have to be this way. The idea is to bring the song down, then the guitars come in as audiopaal played them. I had the thought that the chords should be changing so I played the riff but changed the root. This can probably be done only by the bass, the chord progression I used is a very simple one, but works, however suggestions are welcomed. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Attached File(s) arr1.mp3 ( 813.88K ) Number of downloads: 335 -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

Iluha View Member Profile	Sep 19 2009, 09:24 PM
Sep 19 2009, 09:24 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Sep 19 2009, 07:51 PM) So this is my suggestion, I had to do some drums and stuff so that you get the idea, but Audiopaals drums are fine. So after the intro we start with the main riff, and everything should sound big, right after when the guitar goes down I say we do the riff with palm muting, I changed it a little bit but doesn't have to be this way. The idea is to bring the song down, then the guitars come in as audiopaal played them. I had the thought that the chords should be changing so I played the riff but changed the root. This can probably be done only by the bass, the chord progression I used is a very simple one, but works, however suggestions are welcomed. That sounds great Jose, the song starting to get a proffesional sound to it. I like the moving bass note idea. I recorded a rough sketch of a bassline for this recording just to hear how it will sound, there's some mistakes but I think it came out ok overall. I included also a file of only the bass track, I don't think I alligned it perfectly in the editor, plus maybe you want to play with the sound see what you can do with it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Attached File(s) basstrack2.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 259 bassalone.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) Number of downloads: 254 -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

audiopaal View Member Profile	Sep 19 2009, 10:20 PM
Sep 19 2009, 10:20 PM	Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons Posts: 5.462 Joined: 17-February 08 From: Stavanger, Norway	QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 19 2009, 10:24 PM) That sounds great Jose, the song starting to get a proffesional sound to it. I like the moving bass note idea. I recorded a rough sketch of a bassline for this recording just to hear how it will sound, there's some mistakes but I think it came out ok overall. I included also a file of only the bass track, I don't think I alligned it perfectly in the editor, plus maybe you want to play with the sound see what you can do with it It's a good idea to bring the song down as Jose said, and let the bass change the pattern abit.. I'll have a look at this tomorrow and record a new demo for you You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

muntahunta View Member Profile	Sep 20 2009, 03:06 AM
Sep 20 2009, 03:06 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 783 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Newcastle	jose, thats awesome You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson

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