Hey there Pourliver!
I am happy to welcome you to your own spot for learning I would like to start by asking you to tell me a few things about your current level, goals and such. Also, if there's anything recorded - audio/ video - please let me take a look/ listen so i can better understand where we're at
Cheers mate
Cosmin
Hi Cosmin !
First of all, thank you for creating this thread!
My favorites bands are Megadeth, Stratovarius, Kalmah, Imperanon, and lots of other neo classical band. I don't know why, but I really love classic song played at little bit heavier, like Turkish March on guitar, and your awesome Mozart rocks orchestra .
Well, about my level, I played guitars for 3 years now. I had guitar classes at school, but it was really basic things, Chords, power chords, thats all. Now, I tried to learn by myself for 2 years, and I got really better. Actually, I think I'm a really good rhythm player, staccato, palm muting on the low strings and things like that aren't hard at all for me. Meanwhile, I have a pretty good AP technique, but I can't change string. I can play stuff like Wasted Years intro really easily, but like I said, string change / skip is damn hard for me. I just learned my Inside picking 2 weeks ago, and thats a damn good challenge. I think that my average lesson level would be 4, but I'm not sure as I never tried a level 5 lesson.
Actually, I would really like to be able to use every string on my guitar, while playing any technique. I would like to learn how to improvise over a backing tracks, learn some scales, and theory in general ( I know nothing at all ) .
At the moment, I have nothing recorded that sound really good, every time I record myself, it's like one more challenge. It's harder to focus on what I'm doing while recording. By the way, I can only record audio ( I'll try to get a webcam / camera soon )
I think I've said enough about me, if you have any other question, go for it man
My native language is French, I know my English isn't perfect, but I'm doing my best
EDIT: I won't be able to record this weekend, I don't have my guitar with me, I'm not at home
Salut! Je peux parler Francais aussi un pettit mais, je crois que c'est peut etre util
Well I am speaking french only when my step aunt is around and otherwise, I got nobody to use my skills on anyway, I suggest we divide the time into a few categories:
1) Technique - we can deal with alternate picking and legato to start with and I shall focus on string changing
2) Applied theory - all sorts of examples meant to help you with understanding a specific concept and the way in which it was applied
3) Ear training - all sorts of exercises with which you can help your ear evolve in such a way that it will serve you in your musical journey - be it improvising or writing or playing with other people
How much time a week can you dedicate to guitar playing mon ami?
Cosmin
Salut! Sa pourrais être utile un jour
Well, I would say I could play for 2-3 hours a day , so around 15 hours / week
These categories looks good, but I never really played legato, only once at Ben's Vchat, so my legato level is around 1
I have a question for you, were can I find a downloadable metronome ( .mp3 or .wav ) to put on Reaper and record over it ?
I still won't be able to record / play today, another day without my dear guitar
Today a strange question came in my mind , can you learn guitar without being able to play ?
Cya later man, have a nice day ( 01:50 a.m here, I need to get some rest )
No problemmo mate! Rest and write me back when you are ready you can use online metronomes if you want. They are everywhere
http://www.metronomeonline.com/
how about this one?
Tell me man, when are you getting your axe back?
This one is perfect
I'm getting my axe back tonight, in 5 hours
Ah great! Well, then I'll be waiting for your materials, so we can start
I'm back, my axe and I are ready to RAWK !
Alright man let me see what you got
I recorded this for Gabriel, what do you think about it ?
http://soundcloud.com/pourliver/finnish-power-metal-ii-sonata
What do I need to record for you ? AP, legato, rhythm playing ?
Hey man! You seem very tight when playing rhythm I like that!
Now, I am curious to see how you are faring with the other things we have spoken about, so, I was curious if you would like to start like this - I will find a lesson which is lead oriented and you record it so that I may see what level you're at
I was thinking about this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Voice-Of-Your-Guitar/
Let's try the first part - I want to hear you bend and vibrate
rock n roooolll
Cosmin
Hey Cosmin !
This lesson was really awesome to play. It's really full of emotions and feeling in it
I messed up a bit on the chicken picking and my last bend wasn't loud enough. It's my first time playing something like that, with small bends and vibrato, but I think it wasn't that bad. What do you think ?
http://soundcloud.com/pourliver/the-voice-of-your-guitar-part
This is not bad, but you played the bends - such as the one at 0.6 a bit different - listen to the original take and see what's happening the notes in the bend are being changed faster than the way in which you did it.
Try to get the details, as these make the difference and let's discuss further!
Hey Cosmin! I've watched the video a bit more and louder, and I see now that I've skipped the pull off at 0:04, and I did my bend too slow, now I just need to get my pull off right after the bends, I don't know why, but I'm messing up that part when practicing.
By the way, can you help me to improve my tone for this lesson ? It sounds very bad
Hehe That's the spirit ALWAYS look for the details ok?
Now, tell me what sort of device are you using for the tone?
Cosmin
I'm using my Line 6 Spider iv amps
Ok, so, what sort of corrections do you have? If you have bass, mid, highs and gain, it would be great.
I would go somewhere like 10 o clock with the bass, 9-10 o clock with the mids and 1 o clock with the highs. Also, add some delay and reverb in the mix and it should be good. Now, all amps behave differently and these are only assumptions of mine, but try them and let's see what happens
Cosmin
I have all these, but I don't have delay on my amp, and I have no pedal at all :/
I won't be able to record audio for a week, I'm at my father's house and I forgot my 1/4 " to 1/8 " adapter
I'll try to come back with an almost flawless take in a week
Alright mate! Well, record without the delay and add it afterwards in the DAW you are working with
I'll be here waiting
Cosmin
Hi Cosmin !
This is my second take for you lesson : The Voice Of Your Guitar. The result isn't perfect, but when I press the record button, my fingers goes crazy and mess up. I think it's better than the first one, but I still make the same error. By the way, all of the delay effects in REAPER sounded really bad, so I played without it
http://soundcloud.com/pourliver/the-voice-of-your-guitar-take
Hey man! This is not bad, but still I can feel you are shaky
My advice to you is to record a lot of times, all the time, until the pressure of recording will not be there anymore. It's like an exercise and the more you are getting used to it, the better you get at recording the best take out there
The fact that you haven't used any delay, can be a very good initiative, due to the fact that your nuances will be more pretentious, thus allowing you to become more and more skilled at approximating note lengths and dynamics, in such a way that you will be able to replace the delay with ...your hands only
Try this: Record let's say 15 takes, totally forgetting about the record button being pushed. Keep the best one. Do this for about 4 days in a row and at the end, pick the best one out and post it here Remember to always listen to yourself, ok?
Cosmin
Thanks for the advice !
It's sounds like a really good idea, I'll do this for sure, I hope that my next take will be almost perfect
Here are 2 of my best takes, recorded yesterday.
http://soundcloud.com/pourliver/sets/the-voice-of-your-guitar-take
I think it's getting better every time I record it, but the only thing that I find hard now, is to keep the sound of the E note on the fourth string.
What do you think ?
By the way, I've just listened to your Metal Metric lesson, they are really awesome, the 4th lesson sound really nice I should try that tuning soon
EDIT : You will have to click on the link, or you won't be able to listen to both of them ( take 3 and 4 )
Good morning sir!
Yes, indeed take 4 is the best I focused on your sustain and the bending at the beginning of each phrase
That bend is a bit tricky - it's done a little faster because the notes are not of equal length there and about the vibrato - in take 4, you have allowed the last note of the first phrase to breathe and then you vibrated - that's very good! In this sort of context it's very nice to do it this way
Let's go further up the hill
Cosmin
Hi man !
By watching your lesson, I've saw that you were not bending the last note of the first phrase immediately, so I though I could do the same.
I'm ready to rock, what are we working next, ô C-Maestro ?
Well, we should first get this one flowing and then move to something else When I said futher up the hill, I was thinking about perfecting this one, by having in mind what I observed in you last takes
That's the spirit!
This is my fifth take for your lesson
http://soundcloud.com/pourliver/the-voice-of-your-guitar-2
So, I think there is an improvement, but there is still missing something, I don't know what tho . What do you think ?
EDIT: The link is called the voice of you guitar 2, but it's the 5
Hey man! Sounds pretty good to me
Let's hear it in the context now and then move on to the second part We should explore more lessons right? But first, let's get this one down for good!
Cosmin
Hi Cosmin!
Bends, bends, and more bends ! I have a hard time with those right now, sometimes I bend too high, it will take me a bit of time
Yesterday I discovered something, it's really strange to explain tho. It was like if my picking hand was exactly following my left hand. Everything was really easy, I wasn't even thinking about picking, everything followed. Am I supposed to always play like that ? I don't know if you understand what I'm actually talking about, but is there a way to always play like this ?
Hey man Take your time with the bends I am not going anywhere and I want you to get as close to perfection as possible
Well, there are days and days I know exactly what you are talking about - you need to be very relaxed before starting to play and this state will transmit itself to your whole body.
Another idea, would be to think about what you did exactly before starting to play and try to get into that state of mind each time There will be bad days too, though, when you will feel like you can't hit two right notes. Put the guitar down and go do something else in that moment. Come back later and try again, but in any case, do not play in that state of mind, because you will only accumulate frustration!
Hi Cosmin !
First of all, sorry if I never replied to your post... I really feel bad about it, but in the end, I'm the one who failed here ^^'. Last year, while practicing your lesson and a bunch of other stuff, I can remember having an enormous lack of motivation. I stopped playing and practicing guitar for a while, just to "take a break" and come back stronger, but it didn't work as intended ^^' I continued to play guitar in December / January, but I just picked up the guitar for fun, without practicing on my techniques.
Recently I've been trying to learn theory by myself, didn't know where to start, and it never really worked. I've been trying to learn too many things at the same time, and that was not the right thing for me...
Now I'm back, but my GMC membership has ended Do you think we can still work on something even without it ?
Hey buddy, welcome back
As long as you have access to the forum, we can work on theory together It is no problemmo whatsoever - if you are ok with it and if you are ready to commit to practicing constantly, we can start at any given moment
I'm ready ! What do we start with ?
Going to sleep tho, see ya later ( Why does all musical inspiration comes now... )
Hey buddy - you must be awake, by now, right?
Please tell me, what sort of theoretical knowledge have you amassed so far?
Cosmin
Well, usually I'm not awake, since its 3:40 AM now, I can't sleep these day, with the insane temperature..
Right now, I know the A pentatonic minor scale, the A harmonic Minor, and I used a lot of D Phrygian Dominant ( I don't know what Phrygian dominant mean tho ) ... I know how the major scale is made ( W W H W W W H ), the theory behind power chord, well I can't think about other stuff right now
I know the pentatonic minor scales, and Harmonic minor, but I don't know how / when they are used... Lets say that I'm really weak in theory !
By the way, I don't even know what Phrygian mean, I just know a part of the scale
You should listen to the band "Revocation", it really does sounds cool, metal band with some jazzy stuff, its really unique ! Try listening to "Across Forest and Fjord", its an instrumental, but its really great. I found that band yesterday, I'm addicted now
Alright man, well, first things first - I will make a little introductory video for you in which I will tell you what I think that the most important aspects of theory would be and which are the building blocks that we will use, so stay tuned, deal?
Alright, sounds good to me
By the way, the thing I don't really like about what I learned is even if I know scales, or stuff like that, I don't know how to use them, its not affecting my playing at all
Well I don't know about the minor and diminished sadly, so I'm only able to answer your first task.
By the way, do I need to have one of each note ( A B C D E ... ) or if it doesn't matter ( Bb C D D# ... )
Bb Major : Bb C D Eb F G A
I tried to visualize my guitar fretboard in my mind, and count the whole and half hahahaha, it was harder than expected ( I knew the formula, but never applied it )
Am I right ?
I don't have access to the whole lesson
And I don't really get what harmonizing means, the only link I made was that he used only notes of the C major scale to build chords
I get the meaning of inversion, but I'm not too sure about "when" it is used in the lesson
Can you clarify those point before I start working on the names and notes of all the chords ?
Sorry if I'm responding kinda late, had a power outage ( 20 hour without electricity ) yesterday when I was going to reply
Hey mate - sure thing - harmonizing means that we can derive a chord out of each note in a major scale, using only notes from that particular scale. So basically, instead of playing C D E F G A B C we will play chords - these chords will be triads, so they will be based on the 1 3 5 formula for major chords (ex C major = C E G), 1 b3 5 formula for minor chords (ex A minor = A C E) and 1 b3 b5 formula for diminished chords (ex B dim = B D F).
So, your task is to figure out the chords that are obtained out of harmonizing the C major scale What he is doing in that lesson is exactly this task. Don't think of anything else at the moment - just figure out the chords - name each one, tell their nature (major minor or diminished) keeping in mind that you are not allowed to use notes from outside the scale.
If it's still unclear, let me know, k?
Cosmin
Hmmm I think I get it now, I just don't see any possible inversion :s
C major: C E G
D minor: D F A
E minor: E G B
F major: F A C
G major: G B D
A minor: A C E
B dim: B D F
But... what about the inversions ?
Ninja question before sleeping,
Only on the A D G strings ?
And if i record video... Quality will be really bad, since I only record via Amplitube 3 usually
Hi Cosmin !
Quick update
I dislocated my left hand little finger, and it really hurt as hell.
The only thing I have to record at the moment is an iPod. I'm not too sure about how I'm going to record, since I'm using Amplitube 3, can you help me with this ?
I don't have a webcam, but I will ask some friends if they have a spare one they don't use anymore !
And for the pinky, it was an accident while playing american football, a tackle went wrong and I felt on my pinky. The joint was pointing backward, so I had to manually put it back in place... It was so painful... But now, I taped my pinky and my ring finger together, and I keep putting ice on it, so its getting better, can't move it a lot, but no more pain
Damn... Watch out bro - so, I guess playing is out of the question for a while...
Well, if you get a webcam, at this point you can record both sound and video with it, for the tasks I give you and which you can post in here. Use a youtube channel, upload the movies and embed them here - deal?
As soon as I feel I'm ready to play, I'll record it !
Sounds easy enough, I'll try to update a lil before recording
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