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Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 23 2012, 12:07 AM

Hi ElHombre! I am glad you decided to join! Very happy to see you!
I can't wait to start mentoring you and help you to discover new ways to approach your playing!!!
Before we will start I have a few questions!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?
I am looking forward to work with you!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 23 2012, 03:52 PM

Hey, my goal is to be a complete guitarist as possible. I play from classical to metal but there is a lot of styles i need to get more knowledge about, thinking of jazz, fusion etc which you have very much knowledge about and can help me with smile.gif

My weakness is not getting things done and sometimes be too less disciplined.
My strenght, at some times I can be very innovative and create things in no time

Eric clapton, Hendrix and Santana made me start of with electrical guitar.
Then I disocvered more modern players like John Petrucci, and finally my great idol marco sfogli, I have been transcribing a lot of his songs.
I also like to listen to blues even though I dont play it much, I saw Joe bonamassa recently

cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 23 2012, 09:04 PM

Perfect! I really like Clapton myself!
He is an amazing musician and composer!
I think we can start with a blues in E it is very important to learn how to play blues!
It is the hardest and simpliest style at the same time!
You really have to tell the story when you are playing blues and if you can play blues you can play guitar!
Everything started with blues and every great player knows how to play it!
I prepared a few licks for you in style of Eric Clapton!

http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/blues-mentoring
A 7
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
B 7
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

You can play:
A minor blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


A major blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


E minor Blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

E major Blues pentatonic

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

B minor Blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
B major blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Here are the licks!
You can practice them using backing track I made!
Make sure you are using a metronome and playing it at a slow tempo!

Track 1
S S E E E H S S E E E S S E Q
E||----------------------------|----------------------------|
B||----------------------------|----------------------------|
G||-----------5g6--------------|---------5-----7p-5----5----|
D||--7p-5h-7-------7--L--------|----5-7-----7-------7-------|
A||----------------------------|--7-------------------------|
E||----------------------------|----------------------------|


Q S S E S S S S S E. E S S E E H W
------------5------------------|-------------------------|-------------------|
---------------8p-5---5--------|----------5--------------|-------------------|
-------5h-6---------7---5h-6---|-----5h-6----------------|-------------------|
--7----------------------------|--7----------------------|-------------------|
-------------------------------|-------------7--L--------|-------------------|
-------------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------|


S E S E E S S E E E Q Q E E Q S S S S
---------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------------|
--8-8--8-|-----------------------------|-------------13b----10h-13p-10h----|
---------|--7b--5--7p-5----5--7s--9----|--L----L--9---------------------12-|
---------|--------------7--------------|-----------------------------------|
---------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------------|
---------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------------|


|-3-|
Q S S S E S S S S E E E E Q H W
--------5----------------------|----------------------|-------------------|
--8b------8-5------------------|--5-------------------|-------------------|
--------------7--7-5-7-5----6--|----------------------|-------------------|
-------------------------7-----|----------------------|-------------------|
-------------------------------|-----7--L----L--------|-------------------|
-------------------------------|----------------------|-------------------|


|------3-----| |------3-----|
W Q Q Q Q Q Q
----------------------|----------------------------------------|
----------------------|---------10----12-----------------------|
--12b~----------------|--12b----------------12b-----L----12----|
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W Q S S E Q E E
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--12b~----------------|--/14----14p-12s-10b---L------------|
----------------------|----------------------------12------|
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Q Q Q Q W
-------------------------|-------------------|
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--------10b----L---------|-------------------|
--12---------------------|-------------------|
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|----3---|
E S S E S S S E E E E W
-------------10-------------------------------|---------------------|
-------10-10----------------------------------|---------------------|
--12b-------------Lpbr--L-10-----10b----------|---------------------|
-----------------------------12-------12------|--10~----------------|
------------------------------------------12--|---------------------|
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W S E. Q E E E E Q Q H
-------------------|---------------------------|---------------------|
-------------------|---------------------------|---------------------|
-------------------|--7------------------------|---------------------|
-------------------|----9---7----5h--6---------|---------------------|
-------------------|--------------------7--5b--|--7------------------|
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S S E Q H W W
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-------5-----------------|-------------------|-------------------|
--5h-7----5----3b--------|--0----------------|-------------------|


|-----3----| |---3--|
Q E E E E E E E. S Q E. S Q E. S
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--12b-----Lpbr---L--10s--8--10--8b--L-----|--------------12-------------12-|
----------------------------------------9-|--12b----14------12b----14------|
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Q E E H W
-------------------------|-------------------|
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--12b----L--9--L~--------|-------------------|
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S S E S S E Q E E Q Q E E E E
---------10---------10---------17pbr---L--|--13b---------19pbr--L------------|
--10h-12-----10h-12-----/15---------------|------------------------19pbr--L--|
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W W
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--15~----------------|-------------------|
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E S S S S S S Q S S S S
---------------------------------------10-----|
-------13-----------------------10h-12----10h-|
--/14-----14-12s-10---------------------------|
--------------------12-10-12------------------|
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S S S S S S S S S S S S S S E W
-----10---------------------------------------------|-------------------||
--12----10------------------------------------------|-------------------||
-----------12-10----10h-11--------------------------|-------------------||
-----------------12--------12p-10-12p-10------------|-------------------||
-----------------------------------------12p-10-12--|--L----------------||
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Here is Guitar Pro file!
 Blues_licks_Clapton.gp5 ( 4.76K ) : 156

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 24 2012, 02:17 PM

You had some blues menotring ready awesome biggrin.gif
I will start working with this, shall first deal with some theory and my new song

cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 24 2012, 10:09 PM

Sounds great! Let me know if you need help with the theory!!!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 25 2012, 06:09 PM

I am right know re-learning scales and harmonisation, but one thing I didnt do much on classical was chord progressions, I should start learning the most basic progressions I think, along with that get some more knowledge of unusal chords and make some backing tracks when practicing scales.

Also here is a song I learned recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMjrQVx8Cl8&feature=related
I know they key is in D major.
But there are some intresting things about the song, like 0:59 and several other places, It sounds like the song changes key, or is it just out notes?

For example it goes :


-----------------------------------
-----------7----8-----10-----11-
--9------------------------------
----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------

So its half step, wholestep and halfstep no scale has that formula?
That A# isnt in the D major scale, out note or key change?

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 26 2012, 06:30 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Mar 25 2012, 05:09 PM) *
I am right know re-learning scales and harmonisation, but one thing I didnt do much on classical was chord progressions, I should start learning the most basic progressions I think, along with that get some more knowledge of unusal chords and make some backing tracks when practicing scales.

Also here is a song I learned recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMjrQVx8Cl8&feature=related
I know they key is in D major.
But there are some intresting things about the song, like 0:59 and several other places, It sounds like the song changes key, or is it just out notes?

For example it goes :


-----------------------------------
-----------7----8-----10-----11-
--9------------------------------
----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------

So its half step, wholestep and halfstep no scale has that formula?
That A# isnt in the D major scale, out note or key change?

I agree it's is very important to learn basics first! I will make you a new assignment so you can work on basic chords and also can start creating your own backing tracks!
The song you learned is really cool! I like it a lot!
To answer your question
He used A# as a chord tone I will need to see the chord progression to tell you exactly what it was
but I could clearly hear that he we to some 7 chord that is out of diatonic scale and to accent it he played A#
I would assume that he went to A#7 because it sound like he played root, but I am not 100% sure if you can tell me what chords are on this part I will be able to explain it better!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 26 2012, 07:05 PM

Yes its very nice, one of the most touching melodies I have heard reminds me of something, just had to learn it and luckily they had published the backing track!

Anyway have you also checked the files I sent you? smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 26 2012, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Mar 26 2012, 06:05 PM) *
Yes its very nice, one of the most touching melodies I have heard reminds me of something, just had to learn it and luckily they had published the backing track!

Anyway have you also checked the files I sent you? smile.gif

Do you think it's possible to upload files here so I can make comments with time frames? And also it helps other students to follow your progress!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 27 2012, 10:00 AM

Sure do you mean soundcloud?

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 27 2012, 10:45 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Mar 27 2012, 09:00 AM) *
Sure do you mean soundcloud?

Yeah if you don't mind doing that
If you want I can do that as well if you will send me links to download

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 28 2012, 08:09 AM

Wow alex! this was some really cool playing. I really like your playing style, you really got your own sound I think.
Okey, I would also like to learn this part, I will slow it down but can you also explain a little bit about it? smile.gif
cheers

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 28 2012, 11:56 AM

Well, I am amazed by your playing! I till try to listen to it slowly and catch some of the licks you are using, it got such flow to it and excellent note choice.
Cant thank you enough man, this is really cool

I have come up with some ideas myself but my problem i the sound I dont get a very suitable sound to this song. I liked your sound very much.

And also, your solo ends in the middle, which actually became quite cool, then I can come in there in the middle and try to play in the style of alex feather wink.gif

The first part of the song is maybe more structured and returnes to the original melody with variations, and the middle/last part before ending is a bit more free without the basic melody, and the ending will have variation of the melody that feels kind of "ending" I think it became good, I will use a fade away effect on this one.

But yes, the only problem right know would be my sound not happy with it :/

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 28 2012, 11:17 PM

First of all I am really glad you liked the solo!
Thank you for having me! smile.gif
I like you idea about the form I guess I just didn't understand correctly where to start and where to finish!
So here is what we are gonna do:
-We will focus on your sound
-I will guide you through the song and will help you create a very cool solo in your own style! You need to sound like yourself and I will help you!

Let's start with your sound!
In order to help you out I will need to know what gear you are using and what recording software
After I will do my research and will find the best answer for you!
Than we will start working on your licks that will fit this song well!
Looking forward to start! It will be exciting!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 29 2012, 09:37 AM

Hi alex
I use POD X3 for recording. But I was thinking of upgrading to Pod HD pro, as you reccomended. Where did you find it for 500$? I only find it for around 700 dollars.

But anyway I am using pod x3, yes.
Ive been trying custom tone and dialing in my own tone. Well it shouldnt be too much drive in the tone and I guess not to much distortion either. Some delay
I tried different amps, didnt get a very good tone.

But to be honest I dont really know how to get that sound you were using.

I have my fender strat and my Ibanez, I guess the Fender would be more suitable for this song. Well, when playing in this still it feels like much more comfortable to play with the fender, feels like I have more bite in the strings with this higher action.


Posted by: ElHombre Mar 29 2012, 07:42 PM

Alex did you only use A mixolydian mode?
The start of the solo is just genius, that bend then the two following licks.

Well Im doing some progress with my ideas, just cant get that sound I want!
Want it to really have flow to it and be kind of groovy.

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 30 2012, 03:19 AM

I found this awesome video for you!
I love the tone this guys came up with!
Here it is!!!


I played mixolydian and some pentatonics mixed together
Mostly A mixo

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 30 2012, 09:42 AM

Yes its very good, I have seen it and used it wink.gif But Im not going for a high gain tone on this one!
What settings did you have on your recording hardware/software ?

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 30 2012, 10:37 AM

http://soundcloud.com/erik93/newsound

I did a recording this morning with my sound, I think it fits good, gets a little trebly at times when hitting double strings.
Got the middle part a little wrong, and then its just improvisation.
This is approximatley how the song is going to be.
Also, there are a few out notes in it, A# instead of A.
Sounds nice to me but maybe I have to strike and A#7 chord over that A# note what do you say?

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 30 2012, 02:19 PM

So Alex, we have this chord progression: Bm7 Em7 | A7 Dmaj7|Bm7 Em7|A7
Well Im thinking I can put in a key change here to make the song more exciting, sometime in the middle, and play F# Mixolydian instead.

So we get to Bm7, then we go directly to A#dim then to G#m7 C#m7|F#7 Bmaj7 ..... in B major/ F# mixolydian then


Posted by: ElHombre Mar 30 2012, 04:07 PM

Hmm why cant I edit my mentor threads?
Have to post again:

http://soundcloud.com/erik93/newsound2

Here is another sound I got, which got more flow to it

Posted by: Alex Feather Mar 31 2012, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Mar 30 2012, 03:07 PM) *
Hmm why cant I edit my mentor threads?
Have to post again:

http://soundcloud.com/erik93/newsound2

Here is another sound I got, which got more flow to it

I like this sound much better! The idea about the key change is pretty good! And F# mixo should work great!
If you will decide to go back to the original key after the bridge you can do that:
G#m7 C#m7|F#7 Bmaj7|G#mi7|A7
This A7 will take you back to Bmi7
Let me know if you have any questions!

Posted by: ElHombre Mar 31 2012, 11:47 PM

Okey I added and EQ and dropped the distortion level of the sound, well can record that aswell.
As you can here it need more drive! But not in a distoirtion kind if way, I mean I need to get more flow to the track.
I will change the guitarbacking and at some rythm palm muting between the chords.
I also have to get my tone louder and more flow.

But I was thinking of using A#dim over the out note (A#) when going over to the key of Bmajor.
How shall I make the change to make it sound as good as possible?

It goes like this I play over Bmi7, Emi7, then I hit the A# on the solo, what chord should I play over this A#? I was thinking of A#dim or something but can I go directly to G#m7 over this A#? How will that change be?

Emi7 > G#m7 ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 1 2012, 06:59 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Mar 31 2012, 10:47 PM) *
Okey I added and EQ and dropped the distortion level of the sound, well can record that aswell.
As you can here it need more drive! But not in a distoirtion kind if way, I mean I need to get more flow to the track.
I will change the guitarbacking and at some rythm palm muting between the chords.
I also have to get my tone louder and more flow.

But I was thinking of using A#dim over the out note (A#) when going over to the key of Bmajor.
How shall I make the change to make it sound as good as possible?

It goes like this I play over Bmi7, Emi7, then I hit the A# on the solo, what chord should I play over this A#? I was thinking of A#dim or something but can I go directly to G#m7 over this A#? How will that change be?

Emi7 > G#m7 ?

Cool! I like your idea about thund maybe try overdrive instead of distortion?
If you will do Emi7-G#mi7 you will get a cool change
Like I-bV it is very common in blues so go for it!
If you will play A# over G#mi7 it will work if you do it octave higher it will give you nine sound and will be very jazzy I like this idea!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 3 2012, 04:50 PM

I am glad you liked the track alex.
My Ibanez is going to be sent to the Ibanez distrubitor in my country and it will be checked and then it will have a setup so my guitar will be in perfect condition I think. So hopefully the whole song is completed in a few weeks.

Now I just got to connect all Ideas and make structure them.

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 3 2012, 05:35 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 3 2012, 03:50 PM) *
I am glad you liked the track alex.
My Ibanez is going to be sent to the Ibanez distrubitor in my country and it will be checked and then it will have a setup so my guitar will be in perfect condition I think. So hopefully the whole song is completed in a few weeks.

Now I just got to connect all Ideas and make structure them.

Sounds really good! You did an amazing job!
Glad to hear about your Ibanez I hope they will fix it!
Looking forward to hear the whole track!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 4 2012, 07:11 PM

here is an idea I have had a long time
http://soundcloud.com/erik93/newprojectsong

Should I make a song out of it?
hehe, my Ibanez didnt sound very good when the distortion kicked in but it still shows my idea!

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 5 2012, 01:05 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 4 2012, 06:11 PM) *
here is an idea I have had a long time
http://soundcloud.com/erik93/newprojectsong

Should I make a song out of it?
hehe, my Ibanez didnt sound very good when the distortion kicked in but it still shows my idea!

I would say go for it!!!
What key is it in? I can help you with chord progression!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 5 2012, 09:39 AM

D major all the way. Im thinking of doing some change, not like the one in my previous song but more like a pause and then a key change.

Thinking of open chords fingerpicked in the beginning then change to something heavier.

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 6 2012, 07:46 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 5 2012, 08:39 AM) *
D major all the way. Im thinking of doing some change, not like the one in my previous song but more like a pause and then a key change.

Thinking of open chords fingerpicked in the beginning then change to something heavier.

You can try an old trick make a pause and then go half step up! It might sound very cool!
Open tuning is a great idea too!
Write me chords that you are using and I will help you with changes and voicings!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 6 2012, 06:02 PM

Hey alex, also your solo for my song, I would like to learn it, do you maybe remember the fast parts?
Since I got the guitar file without backing it will be easier to learn it and slow it down.

Yeah also that halfstep is in a song Im learning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPtOdElSNY&feature=context&context=G2d836edRCGXQYbcTJ33Z_-m1jK9YKXn4jLwTICpT7MYl6fdaxFqY

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 6 2012, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 6 2012, 05:02 PM) *
Hey alex, also your solo for my song, I would like to learn it, do you maybe remember the fast parts?
Since I got the guitar file without backing it will be easier to learn it and slow it down.

Yeah also that halfstep is in a song Im learning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPtOdElSNY&feature=context&context=G2d836edRCGXQYbcTJ33Z_-m1jK9YKXn4jLwTICpT7MYl6fdaxFqY

Unfortunately I don't remember what I played smile.gif Sorry...
I like the song you are learning! Let me know how it goes or if you need any help!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 9 2012, 03:12 PM

Hey Alex.
I am supposed to do a ZZ top arrangement on my graduation with a friend who is a blues/rock player.
But unfortuneatley I have not studied this style so much and while imporvising it doesnt sound really rock or blues when I play
Could you help me out?

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 9 2012, 04:49 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 9 2012, 02:12 PM) *
Hey Alex.
I am supposed to do a ZZ top arrangement on my graduation with a friend who is a blues/rock player.
But unfortuneatley I have not studied this style so much and while imporvising it doesnt sound really rock or blues when I play
Could you help me out?

Sure! Please explain exactly what you need to do and I will help you out!
BTW Where are you graduating from?

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 9 2012, 08:54 PM

We will do an arrangement on "tush" dressed in beards lol. There will be no vocals only a looped backing track where we will switch between soloing and playing rythm guitar.

I can take some insipration from the original solo but I need to expand my vocabulary a bit in the genre. Do you know some licks? both easy and advanced.

Im graduating from pre engineer school but I will probably go to a music production school afterwards instead of becoming and engineer.

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 10 2012, 07:05 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 9 2012, 07:54 PM) *
We will do an arrangement on "tush" dressed in beards lol. There will be no vocals only a looped backing track where we will switch between soloing and playing rythm guitar.

I can take some insipration from the original solo but I need to expand my vocabulary a bit in the genre. Do you know some licks? both easy and advanced.

Im graduating from pre engineer school but I will probably go to a music production school afterwards instead of becoming and engineer.

Ok let me prepare some licks for you I will be done tomorrow morning!
Billy Gibbons is using a lot of harmonics in his playing he actually inspired Zakk Wylde so you can start working on those until tomorrow I will try to come up with some ZZ-top licks!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 11 2012, 05:48 PM

Okey thanks alex smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 12 2012, 05:18 PM

So here is a few licks I came up with!
Make sure to use a lot of harmonics smile.gif

E |----------------------------|----------------------------|
B |----------------------------|----------------------------|
G |----------------------------|----------------------------|
D |--------------3--5--5L------|--5--3--5b----3-----5-------|
A |--5-------------------------|-----------------------5L---|
E |----------------------------|----------------------------|


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--5-----3-----3--3--5--5L---|--5-----5-----------5g-12---|
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----------------------------|----|--15b-----------------------|
----------------------------|----|-----------------13-13L-----|
--------10-12L12L---12b-----|----|----------------------------|
--10-12---------------------|----|----------------------------|
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Guitar Pro
 ZZ_top_style_licks.gp5 ( 3.38K ) : 108


Let me know if you have any questions!
P.S. Also make sure to grow a beard smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 12 2012, 06:30 PM

Haha thanks alex really ambitious, this will sure help me a lot !

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 13 2012, 02:59 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 12 2012, 05:30 PM) *
Haha thanks alex really ambitious, this will sure help me a lot !

I will prepare more stuff for you in a few days!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 13 2012, 11:32 PM

Okey thanks alex!
Well I got very inspired by your playing in your songs id like to learn more about that smile.gif

Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMeeFqonva0&feature=related
Maybe I could practice doing some changes and learn to understand whats behind it.

Can we work on that or some more ZZ top first? I will perform in june so its a long time til then!

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 14 2012, 06:45 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 13 2012, 10:32 PM) *
Okey thanks alex!
Well I got very inspired by your playing in your songs id like to learn more about that smile.gif

Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMeeFqonva0&feature=related
Maybe I could practice doing some changes and learn to understand whats behind it.

Can we work on that or some more ZZ top first? I will perform in june so its a long time til then!


I am looking forward to help you with fusion and show you how to play over changes!!!
It's a very cool style and you will have a lot of fun learning it!
Let's concentrate on one thing! smile.gif So what you want to start with? ZZ top?
If you also can explain exactly what you need help with?

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 14 2012, 02:58 PM

You sent me some ZZ top licks I will look at and if I have any questions we can deal with them later.
So I think we can start with some fusion playing now.
Will look if there is any GMC lesson for the basics maybe or you could maybe tell me.
Cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 15 2012, 05:10 PM

Cool! I am glad you have decided to start learning new styles!
You will have a lot of fun! smile.gif
So let's start!
I have this chord progression for you!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/ii-v-i-jam
The chords are:
Emi7 - A7 - Dmaj7
It's a basic II-V-I progression, the trick is, to learn how to play over it! As soon as you will learn that you will be able to play fusion and jazz easily!
We will start with chord tones! So chord tones are notes that chords made of! When you are playing chord tones you are playing over the changes!
For example:
Emi7
E-G-B-D
3rd and 7th are the most important chord tones to play, because that's how you can tell the difference between major and minor!
I came up with a cool exercise that will help you figure out chord tones!
Here it is:

                           Chord tones exercise                               


Track 1
E minor 7
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
E||--------------------10---3--------------------15-|
B||------------------8----3------------15---3-15----|
G||--------7------------------------12----0---------|
D||------5-----------------------12-----------------|
A||----5----------------------10--------------------|
E||--3----------------------------------------------|


A 7
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
-----15-------9----------------------------|
--14------------8-------------------2------|
---------------------12-----6-----0--------|
-----------17-----11----5------------------|
--------16----------------------4-------10-|
------------------------------3-------9----|


D major 7
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
----------9-----------2-9-----------14----9---|
------------7-------2-------------7----14---7-|
-------11-----6-------------------------------|
----11----------4-----------------------------|
--9---------------4---------------------------|
----------------------------------------------|


D major 7
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
--------------------------------------------|----||
----7-----------------------------2---------|----||
--6---6------11---6-----------------6-------|----||
----------11----4---------------4-----4-L-L-|----||
--------9---------------------4-------------|----||
--------------------2-----------------------|----||


 Chord_Tones.gp5 ( 2.14K ) : 129


You can practice this exercise using the backing track I gave you!
Let me know if you have any questions!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 15 2012, 05:50 PM

Hey alex. Great exceris I think have a few questions.
I should of course only play the E minor changes when going over to the A7, I mean playing them over the Emi7 chord, I think its a bit hard to time them excactly with the chord being played.

Also this requires you to now the names of the notes, I am only comfortable from the open strings to the 5th fret, that mostly where I played when I played classical music and learned notes, so I will also have to work on learning all the names of the notes.

So in the E minor scale I will use the third and seventh which is G and D but also E and D.

Well a bit confused, my questions maybe wasnt so clear hope you can help wink.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 16 2012, 04:31 PM


QUOTE
I should of course only play the E minor changes when going over to the A7, I mean playing them over the Emi7 chord, I think its a bit hard to time them excactly with the chord being played.

I am not quite sure what you are asking? You can play those chord tones all the way through.

QUOTE
Also this requires you to now the names of the notes, I am only comfortable from the open strings to the 5th fret, that mostly where I played when I played classical music and learned notes, so I will also have to work on learning all the names of the notes.

I will prepare a few exercises for you to help you with notes smile.gif

It might be a little confusing at first but as soon as you will get it playing guitar will be much easier!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 17 2012, 10:03 AM

Yes I was not sure either what I was asking just trying too see the whole picture wink.gif
So the I chord is Dmaj7 then the key is d major right.
But we are playing these changes over the Emi7 chord?

I dont know how to say the intervals correctly in english but we have first E, then third G, 5th B and 7th D.
So you are supposed to use these intervals, but how excatly does this become changes? All these notes are in the D major scale.

If we would use D major we would have D, F#, A, C#. Why do we use only E minor then ? smile.gif
Well I know these are not good questions but maybe you can understand some of what I am asking and try to explain
cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 17 2012, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 17 2012, 09:03 AM) *
Yes I was not sure either what I was asking just trying too see the whole picture wink.gif
So the I chord is Dmaj7 then the key is d major right.
But we are playing these changes over the Emi7 chord?

I dont know how to say the intervals correctly in english but we have first E, then third G, 5th B and 7th D.
So you are supposed to use these intervals, but how excatly does this become changes? All these notes are in the D major scale.

If we would use D major we would have D, F#, A, C#. Why do we use only E minor then ? smile.gif
Well I know these are not good questions but maybe you can understand some of what I am asking and try to explain
cheers

Well changes are not necessary key changes all the time! The thing about jazz and fusion that all of it is based on II-V-I, but in different keys! The whole idea is to learn to make changes when you are playing over diatonic II-V-I and than I will show you how to do key changes! It's like learning to run before you learn how to crow!
We are not using only E minor, we are going through the whole chord progression
Emi7 - A7 -Dmaj7
in the exercise I gave you all chord tones from those chords are covered!

Posted by: Alex Feather Apr 25 2012, 07:43 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 17 2012, 09:03 AM) *
Yes I was not sure either what I was asking just trying too see the whole picture wink.gif
So the I chord is Dmaj7 then the key is d major right.
But we are playing these changes over the Emi7 chord?

I dont know how to say the intervals correctly in english but we have first E, then third G, 5th B and 7th D.
So you are supposed to use these intervals, but how excatly does this become changes? All these notes are in the D major scale.

If we would use D major we would have D, F#, A, C#. Why do we use only E minor then ? smile.gif
Well I know these are not good questions but maybe you can understand some of what I am asking and try to explain
cheers

Hi! How are you doing? Just wanted to see if you need any help! Let me know!

Posted by: ElHombre Apr 26 2012, 06:31 PM

Hi alex!
I have been in Germany this week at the hannover industrial exibithion.

Before that I did some recording.
I also made improvisation over a Greg Howe track before i left: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVIpTIC-iV0&feature=plcp&context=C447ec52VDvjVQa1PpcFMtGD7dl-aq3u0wnZkb3mBulS2IPVpPKJ0%3D

tell me what you think. We were talking about playing over changes, I want to learn it, I only use one scale here.
Also I am going to learn this song I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AId2ltAfY&feature=related

Posted by: ElHombre May 2 2012, 12:07 PM

So you are not supposed to play E-G-D-B all over the track?
For example over the A7 chord you wrote a C# (14 fret B string) cause the C# belongs to the A7 chord.
Thats what I dont really get.

I though you were supposed to play these notes over the A7. But to start of with, I will only use E-G-D-B since these notes belongs to every chord in this progression?

Posted by: Alex Feather May 4 2012, 05:57 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Apr 26 2012, 05:31 PM) *
Hi alex!
I have been in Germany this week at the hannover industrial exibithion.

Before that I did some recording.
I also made improvisation over a Greg Howe track before i left: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVIpTIC-iV0&feature=plcp&context=C447ec52VDvjVQa1PpcFMtGD7dl-aq3u0wnZkb3mBulS2IPVpPKJ0%3D

tell me what you think. We were talking about playing over changes, I want to learn it, I only use one scale here.
Also I am going to learn this song I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AId2ltAfY&feature=related


Sunny is a cool song to jam over! I think you still need to work on it tho! Your timing was off and also I didn't hear the idea in your solo! Let's work on it together!! I will help you out!
What is the chord progression for this backing track?

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 2 2012, 11:07 AM) *
So you are not supposed to play E-G-D-B all over the track?
For example over the A7 chord you wrote a C# (14 fret B string) cause the C# belongs to the A7 chord.
Thats what I dont really get.

I though you were supposed to play these notes over the A7. But to start of with, I will only use E-G-D-B since these notes belongs to every chord in this progression?

You can play those notes over A7! E is V, G is VII, D is 11, B is IX
So you are good! Even if you will play C natural over A7 it will sound right because C is a part of A minor pentatonic and it works over seventh chord!

Posted by: ElHombre May 4 2012, 08:00 PM

These are the chord:
A-7, G-7/C7, Fmaj7, B-7/E7 (repeat this part one time)

A-7, G-7/C7, Fmaj7, Bb7

B-7b5, E7#9, A-7, E7#9

I only used A minor scale. That why I want to learn how to play in changes, and maybe learn more fusion licks

Posted by: Alex Feather May 5 2012, 07:36 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 4 2012, 07:00 PM) *
These are the chord:
A-7, G-7/C7, Fmaj7, B-7/E7 (repeat this part one time)

A-7, G-7/C7, Fmaj7, Bb7

B-7b5, E7#9, A-7, E7#9

I only used A minor scale. That why I want to learn how to play in changes, and maybe learn more fusion licks


Just to clarify for me
A - 7 Means A minor 7 or A7?
I have seen people writing both ways! Please make it clear and I will create some cool exercises for you to practice!

Posted by: ElHombre May 5 2012, 04:33 PM

I dont know alex, I didnt write out the chords, I will listen to the track and see

Posted by: Alex Feather May 6 2012, 05:39 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 5 2012, 03:33 PM) *
I dont know alex, I didnt write out the chords, I will listen to the track and see

Perfect! I will do that same smile.gif Check back tomorrow I will make a first assignment for yoU!

Posted by: Alex Feather May 7 2012, 05:50 PM

So I think A-7 means minor in this case
Let's look at the chords:

Ami7, Gmi7/C7, Fmaj7, Bm7/E7 (repeat this part one time)

Am7, Gm7/C7, Fmaj7, Bb7

B-7b5, E7#9, Am7, E7#9

Let's look at the first part and analyze it!

Ami7, Gmi7/C7, Fmaj7, Bm7/E7
The first four chords in the key of F
But when you are getting Bmi7 and E7 you are getting into A
I would like you to write out all possible options that you think might work over the first part!


Posted by: ElHombre May 7 2012, 08:31 PM

I will Alex as soon as I can, im praticing for some tests right now.
Anyway, do you think I should buy this?: http://www.greghowe.com/tablature.html

Seems like a great way to learn fusion, learning these songs and get them explained, some great songs.
That and learning to play in changes will surely be good learning material

Okey so the inte the first part it is F.
Then if playing in changes wouldnt we play F,A,C,E 1th,3th,5th,7th ??

Posted by: Alex Feather May 7 2012, 08:55 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 7 2012, 07:31 PM) *
I will Alex as soon as I can, im praticing for some tests right now.
Anyway, do you think I should buy this?: http://www.greghowe.com/tablature.html

Seems like a great way to learn fusion, learning these songs and get them explained, some great songs.
That and learning to play in changes will surely be good learning material

Okey so the inte the first part it is F.
Then if playing in changes wouldnt we play F,A,C,E 1th,3th,5th,7th ??

I have this book! It's very very very complicated and advanced if you want you can get it but I don't think it's gonna help you too much to learn fusion

Posted by: ElHombre May 9 2012, 11:06 AM

Okey, over Ami7 we play A,C,E,G
Gmi7, G,D,A,F
C7, C,E,G,B.

But I dont really know.
Are you supposed to play the chord tones for Ami7, only over that track? you can play all the chord tones of all chord over the track or what? smile.gif I still dont understand this

Posted by: Alex Feather May 9 2012, 01:48 PM

Let's start with simple pentatonics!
Ami7, Gmi7/C7, Fmaj7, Bm7/E7

Over Ami7 - Gmi7 - C7 - Fmaj7
I want you to play G minor pentatonic

Over Bm7 - E7
F# minor or A major

Let's start with that! Try to jam over this progression and let me know if you have any questions!

Posted by: ElHombre May 9 2012, 02:14 PM

Aha you meant scales wink.gif okey. Pentatonics, I will try it

Well I havent played much pentatonics (suprising maybe) I usually go with the major/minor scales and also mixolydian and some other modes.
But you remove the 3th and the 6th and you got the pentatonic. But when improvising, over the 5th fret I dont got that good knowledge of the location of all the notes but I will give it a try

Posted by: Alex Feather May 10 2012, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 9 2012, 01:14 PM) *
Aha you meant scales wink.gif okey. Pentatonics, I will try it

Well I havent played much pentatonics (suprising maybe) I usually go with the major/minor scales and also mixolydian and some other modes.
But you remove the 3th and the 6th and you got the pentatonic. But when improvising, over the 5th fret I dont got that good knowledge of the location of all the notes but I will give it a try

Do you need pentatonic positions and tabs?

Posted by: ElHombre May 10 2012, 09:12 PM

No im good smile.gif
I can figure them out I know the most major/minor scales and I know what notes to remove so I get 5 in the scale.

Its just that I dont know the names of the notes over the 5 th fret that I can say which note it is within a milisecond!
After my test on tuesday I got nothing music related to worry about and I can start pratice 3 hours a day I will have a look at the pentatonics!

cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather May 11 2012, 05:43 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 10 2012, 08:12 PM) *
No im good smile.gif
I can figure them out I know the most major/minor scales and I know what notes to remove so I get 5 in the scale.

Its just that I dont know the names of the notes over the 5 th fret that I can say which note it is within a milisecond!
After my test on tuesday I got nothing music related to worry about and I can start pratice 3 hours a day I will have a look at the pentatonics!

cheers

Perfect! Let me know if you need any help!

Posted by: ElHombre May 25 2012, 09:14 AM

So Alex I am free of all non guitar related troubles, its time to start practice more serioustly now, 3 hours h day.
And you idea was to first learn me to play different pentatonics over progressions before learning changes?

So maybe we can begin with, how do I know which pentatonics are playable and when, looking at the progression?

Posted by: Alex Feather May 25 2012, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 25 2012, 08:14 AM) *
So Alex I am free of all non guitar related troubles, its time to start practice more serioustly now, 3 hours h day.
And you idea was to first learn me to play different pentatonics over progressions before learning changes?

So maybe we can begin with, how do I know which pentatonics are playable and when, looking at the progression?

Awesome! I am glad to have you back smile.gif
So to figure out pentatonics you need to;
1) Find the key of the song
2) Find pentatoncs for all minor modes!
It's that simple so here is an example:
C major - Gmajor - D major
I this case I know that the key is G major
G - A - B - C - D - E - F#
Minor modes are
A dorian - B Phrygian - E Ionian
So that means over
C - G - D chord progression I can play
A minor - B minor - E minor pentatonics!
Let me know if you have any questions!

Posted by: ElHombre May 26 2012, 10:29 AM

G major scale, E Ionian, and A dorian, B phrygian all have one # (F#). So these scales got common notes.
So you find the minor modes common with the key and turn them into pentatonics?

Posted by: Alex Feather May 27 2012, 07:52 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ May 26 2012, 09:29 AM) *
G major scale, E Ionian, and A dorian, B phrygian all have one # (F#). So these scales got common notes.
So you find the minor modes common with the key and turn them into pentatonics?

Those scales have the same notes the only difference is the root!
I didn't understand your last question can you explain what do you mean please?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 2 2012, 01:18 AM

So I have a Sunny Backing track for you in style of Greg Howe!
Here it is
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/sunnybackingtrack
I would like you to jam over it for a bit so you can get the feel!
We will start a new mentoring approach with you! It will be like a collab but only you and me! I will start recording tomorrow and will post my take here and than it will be your turn! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Jun 2 2012, 10:58 PM

Cool new menotring wink.gif Yes I will make a recording as soon as I can

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 2 2012, 11:53 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 2 2012, 09:58 PM) *
Cool new menotring wink.gif Yes I will make a recording as soon as I can

So here is my take!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/elhombre
I would like you to continue my idea for the next 16 bars and be melodic as possible!
Also when you are uploading the track mix your solo after mine and leave the rest of the track playing so I can add my next take! I was playing A dorian scale mixed with E minor and B minor pentatonics!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 4 2012, 05:42 AM

Hi I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Do you need any help with the assignment I gave you?

Posted by: ElHombre Jun 4 2012, 09:28 AM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jun 4 2012, 04:42 AM) *
Hi I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Do you need any help with the assignment I gave you?


Yes, how can u use the A dorian scale if the song is in A minor? Cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 4 2012, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 4 2012, 08:28 AM) *
Yes, how can u use the A dorian scale if the song is in A minor? Cheers

Sorry I have made a mistake:) I meant to say A Ionian and did a typo!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 8 2012, 06:11 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 4 2012, 08:28 AM) *
Yes, how can u use the A dorian scale if the song is in A minor? Cheers

Just wanted to see how are you doing? Do you have any questions or need help with anything?

Posted by: ElHombre Jun 17 2012, 05:12 PM

I cant focus on praticing alex wink.gif
I got your tasks, cosmins tasks, my new song.
And loads of stuff, very difficult stuff I am trying to learn, I cant focus directly on learning one thing, I jump between them, and I always end up improvising over a cool backing track, which is fun but doenst really give much.

Think I need some help structuring my practicing.
Cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 17 2012, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 17 2012, 04:12 PM) *
I cant focus on praticing alex wink.gif
I got your tasks, cosmins tasks, my new song.
And loads of stuff, very difficult stuff I am trying to learn, I cant focus directly on learning one thing, I jump between them, and I always end up improvising over a cool backing track, which is fun but doenst really give much.

Think I need some help structuring my practicing.
Cheers

I can absolutely help you with that!
Please let me know how much time do you have to practice every day and what are your practicing also let me know your current schedule!

Posted by: ElHombre Jun 18 2012, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jun 17 2012, 10:06 PM) *
I can absolutely help you with that!
Please let me know how much time do you have to practice every day and what are your practicing also let me know your current schedule!


Hey, I messed up my previous schedule lets start a new one. I think I can set 3 hours guitar practice a day.

Things to work on:

Theory
New Song
Alex tasks
Cosmin tasks
My own tasks.

I got a summer break from IRL teatcher so no more of that right now.
It should be clear what to do, but it isnt.

I think I need more help than just "30 min theory", or Im going to end up doing nothing tongue.gif
I know we cant set up a schedule each day, but some directions maybe.

What I am doing now:

Theory: Going through the circle of fifths and harmonizing. Cosmin has spoken about the importance of singing note etc.
As previoustly mentioned I am secure in knowing what names the notes have up to the 5 th fret, I dont know which methode to use to furthermore be secure all over the fretboard. I need also to learn all the major modes. How do you practice scales? root to root? Or do you play different major modes always starting on low E?

New song: Exchanging some rythmic ideas with cosmin, trying to do some cool arpeggios.

Alex tasks: Going to continue your solo over Sunny.

Cosmin: Drop tune guitar and learn Marco sfogli lesson:

My Own tasks: Here is where I end up and acheiving nothing. Transcribing and learning both Andromeda by Marco sfogli and She goes by, Muris varajic. Also doing some work on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYM864IOTs8&feature=g-all-c
what to focus on?

I dont know really how I end up just jamming over a few tracks tongue.gif Need more structure

Posted by: ElHombre Jun 19 2012, 01:30 PM

http://soundcloud.com/erik93/elhombre2

Here is my proceeding on our sunny jam. But first we can deal with the practice routine smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 19 2012, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 17 2012, 11:05 PM) *
Hey, I messed up my previous schedule lets start a new one. I think I can set 3 hours guitar practice a day.

Things to work on:

Theory
New Song
Alex tasks
Cosmin tasks
My own tasks.

I got a summer break from IRL teatcher so no more of that right now.
It should be clear what to do, but it isnt.

I think I need more help than just "30 min theory", or Im going to end up doing nothing tongue.gif
I know we cant set up a schedule each day, but some directions maybe.

What I am doing now:

Theory: Going through the circle of fifths and harmonizing. Cosmin has spoken about the importance of singing note etc.
As previoustly mentioned I am secure in knowing what names the notes have up to the 5 th fret, I dont know which methode to use to furthermore be secure all over the fretboard. I need also to learn all the major modes. How do you practice scales? root to root? Or do you play different major modes always starting on low E?

New song: Exchanging some rythmic ideas with cosmin, trying to do some cool arpeggios.

Alex tasks: Going to continue your solo over Sunny.

Cosmin: Drop tune guitar and learn Marco sfogli lesson:

My Own tasks: Here is where I end up and acheiving nothing. Transcribing and learning both Andromeda by Marco sfogli and She goes by, Muris varajic. Also doing some work on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYM864IOTs8&feature=g-all-c
what to focus on?

I dont know really how I end up just jamming over a few tracks tongue.gif Need more structure


So here is the trick about organizing your practice routine based on 3 hours a day!


I would start and end with the theory if it's too much you will get tired faster and it will be hard to concentrate
Also I would suggest to incorporate theory studying into your playing I found this to be the fastest way to master theory! Using this technique you will be practicing theory for 3 hours a day and playing guitar at the same time!
Instead of sitting with books for hours try to analyze songs you are working on and really get what is going on there!
Another good idea is to set up an alarm and make sure your won't get up until it goes off! Don't do more than an hour at a time and after take 10 - 15 minute break!

So here is what I came up with:
My own tasks. 1 hour
Start with your own tasks because that is how you can develop your own style but don't spend this hour just noodling try to record solos and songs etc.
Theory 30 minutes
New Song 30 minutes
It's always important to learn something new all the time so try to do it as much as you can!
Alex tasks 30 minutes
My tasks are very simple and what I am giving you is mostly jamming and playing the scales, so actually what is happening you are learning theory, scales and working on your own style at the same time! so you can add it to "My own tasks" section
Cosmin tasks 30 minutes
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


Posted by: ElHombre Jun 20 2012, 07:35 PM

okey, check my previous post. What can we say about my proceeding of our jam?
Well the sound wasnt so fusion and not so close to yours, i didnt really capture your style either.

I used A minor scale and a minor pentatonic at some part. what can we say about my solo?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 21 2012, 06:34 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 19 2012, 12:30 PM) *
http://soundcloud.com/erik93/elhombre2

Here is my proceeding on our sunny jam. But first we can deal with the practice routine smile.gif

You did a good job with the solo!
I would suggest a few things!
1) Take a some distortion off and try to get drive from your hands instead of putting gain all the way up! That will help you develop your dynamic very fast!
2) Try to keep it lees busy! The trick is to build it up little at a time so less notes you will play better build up we will get!
3) Your bends are out of pitch! I will create a very cool exercise that will help you with bending very very fast!
You did a very good job! And I think playing less in the beginning will make a big difference!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 14 2012, 05:46 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jun 20 2012, 06:35 PM) *
okey, check my previous post. What can we say about my proceeding of our jam?
Well the sound wasnt so fusion and not so close to yours, i didnt really capture your style either.

I used A minor scale and a minor pentatonic at some part. what can we say about my solo?

Hello! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Jul 15 2012, 12:08 AM

Hi alex, im praticing quite many things now smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/rock-ballad-solo/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Iced-Earth-Style/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYM864IOTs8&feature=g-all-c

Maybe I could use some assitance tongue.gif Im also doing excercises in a book i got from my teatcher.
I want to learn fusion to smile.gif one of my favorite styles even though Im a beginner.

Im practicing some quite hard lessons, but I like challenges and it helps me evolve.
Its just a few licks in them that gets me stuck ohmy.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 16 2012, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jul 14 2012, 11:08 PM) *
Hi alex, im praticing quite many things now smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/rock-ballad-solo/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Iced-Earth-Style/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYM864IOTs8&feature=g-all-c

Maybe I could use some assitance tongue.gif Im also doing excercises in a book i got from my teatcher.
I want to learn fusion to smile.gif one of my favorite styles even though Im a beginner.

Im practicing some quite hard lessons, but I like challenges and it helps me evolve.
Its just a few licks in them that gets me stuck ohmy.gif


Nice you are learning some great lessons! What can I help you with? What parts you are stuck on?
Also learning licks is very easy! What you have to do is to memorize it and just start using it every time you jam! Even if you are just playing a pentatonic up and down use the lick try to even overuse it! This way it will become your own very fast! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Jul 16 2012, 10:47 PM

Lesson part 8 of the Rock ballad! that is a diffcult lick. Its hard to play on my fender or esp, but on the ibanez it work thanks to the jumbo frets.

And im trying to get my right hand to understand the gallop rythm of the Iced earth style. Its a good technique to know. D,D,U,D
Also I meant im a beginner in fusion/jazz not in guitar overall I have played for 10 years smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 17 2012, 06:01 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jul 16 2012, 09:47 PM) *
Lesson part 8 of the Rock ballad! that is a diffcult lick. Its hard to play on my fender or esp, but on the ibanez it work thanks to the jumbo frets.

And im trying to get my right hand to understand the gallop rythm of the Iced earth style. Its a good technique to know. D,D,U,D
Also I meant im a beginner in fusion/jazz not in guitar overall I have played for 10 years smile.gif

I have a plan! How about we will start getting into improvisation? It will be like a collab but one on one and I will be playing as well to give you ideas! What would you say?

Posted by: ElHombre Jul 19 2012, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 17 2012, 05:01 AM) *
I have a plan! How about we will start getting into improvisation? It will be like a collab but one on one and I will be playing as well to give you ideas! What would you say?


Its a good idea, its cool to do a jam collab with an instructor smile.gif We already did in "sunny".
It was fun, but when playing fusion I only take myself around the a minor scale (Am is the key in sunny)
and I would like to learn some more cooler tricks and play in changes too.

So my guess is you could teach me as we do some jam, I didnt really grip it what you said, maybe we can sort it out smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 20 2012, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jul 19 2012, 11:47 AM) *
Its a good idea, its cool to do a jam collab with an instructor smile.gif We already did in "sunny".
It was fun, but when playing fusion I only take myself around the a minor scale (Am is the key in sunny)
and I would like to learn some more cooler tricks and play in changes too.

So my guess is you could teach me as we do some jam, I didnt really grip it what you said, maybe we can sort it out smile.gif

We actually didn't really do "Sunny" yet
The whole purpose is not just to jam but also work on some new techniques and scales!

You did a good job with the solo!
I would suggest a few things!
1) Take a some distortion off and try to get drive from your hands instead of putting gain all the way up! That will help you develop your dynamic very fast!
2) Try to keep it lees busy! The trick is to build it up little at a time so less notes you will play better build up we will get!
3) Your bends are out of pitch! I will create a very cool exercise that will help you with bending very very fast!
You did a very good job! And I think playing less in the beginning will make a big difference!
I would like you to try using my suggestion and try to develop solo in "Sunny"
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 23 2012, 06:10 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jul 19 2012, 11:47 AM) *
Its a good idea, its cool to do a jam collab with an instructor smile.gif We already did in "sunny".
It was fun, but when playing fusion I only take myself around the a minor scale (Am is the key in sunny)
and I would like to learn some more cooler tricks and play in changes too.

So my guess is you could teach me as we do some jam, I didnt really grip it what you said, maybe we can sort it out smile.gif

Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing! Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: ElHombre Jul 24 2012, 09:01 PM

i will do a new take on sunny soon smile.gif Tonight is too hot for playing! cant even be inside

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 25 2012, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Jul 24 2012, 08:01 PM) *
i will do a new take on sunny soon smile.gif Tonight is too hot for playing! cant even be inside

Sounds great! I am looking forward to hear it! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Aug 6 2012, 01:36 PM

http://soundcloud.com/erik93/sunny-take-2
Here I chose a more softer approach, working on some things u mentioned.

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 6 2012, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 6 2012, 12:36 PM) *
http://soundcloud.com/erik93/sunny-take-2
Here I chose a more softer approach, working on some things u mentioned.

You did very good! A few timing issues but some melodies were great! And your phrasing is much better since I first heard you play! Good job!
I will add my track in a few hours and will give you a new assignment! smile.gif
Keep it up!

Posted by: ElHombre Aug 7 2012, 12:33 PM

I have always had timing issues with this song. I dont know really how to tackle it
When I improvise I just feel the beat and play and dont think too much.

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 7 2012, 05:48 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 7 2012, 11:33 AM) *
I have always had timing issues with this song. I dont know really how to tackle it
When I improvise I just feel the beat and play and dont think too much.

I will create a few rhythm exercises for you based on this track! Give me a few hours!

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 8 2012, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 6 2012, 12:36 PM) *
http://soundcloud.com/erik93/sunny-take-2
Here I chose a more softer approach, working on some things u mentioned.

Can you please make the track downloadable so I can add a new assignment! smile.gif
Thanks!

Posted by: ElHombre Aug 11 2012, 07:22 PM

Done!

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 11 2012, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 11 2012, 06:22 PM) *
Done!

So for the next challenge I will limit you with the notes and octaves! smile.gif

All you have is three notes and you have to compensate using interesting rhythm figures!
Those are the notes you are allowed to use:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Nothing else!
I did my track to give you ideas
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/elhombre
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

Posted by: ElHombre Aug 12 2012, 11:21 AM

Okey alex smile.gif Why did you choose those notes? the song is in key Am, so its 1st, 2nd, and 7th note..
Cause I was supposed to do this over sunny right?

And hope will it help improve my timing smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 13 2012, 11:36 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 12 2012, 10:21 AM) *
Okey alex smile.gif Why did you choose those notes? the song is in key Am, so its 1st, 2nd, and 7th note..
Cause I was supposed to do this over sunny right?

And hope will it help improve my timing smile.gif

Those notes are the chord tones of the most chords from Sunny!
Yes I would like you to play over the Sunny and use only those notes nothing else!
It will help you because you will be concentrating on your timing and rhythm instead of too many notes and if you do it right you will get results! smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

Posted by: ElHombre Aug 16 2012, 10:15 PM

okey sounds good alex smile.gif I have refreshend my mind a bit regarding the notes position. I used to play classical guitar, and knew the notes names and position instantly. But in classical guitar u usually play in position 1, only up to the first fret! which means i had bad knowledge about notes above it. But I have now worked on that and I know the fretboard instantly (almost wink.gif

Also a question, Am I Suppost to continue our sunny jam using this, or am I going to play a few bars of my own, standalone.
Cause I think maybe I could continue the jam with some more complex playing later wink.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 17 2012, 10:24 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 16 2012, 09:15 PM) *
okey sounds good alex smile.gif I have refreshend my mind a bit regarding the notes position. I used to play classical guitar, and knew the notes names and position instantly. But in classical guitar u usually play in position 1, only up to the first fret! which means i had bad knowledge about notes above it. But I have now worked on that and I know the fretboard instantly (almost wink.gif

Also a question, Am I Suppost to continue our sunny jam using this, or am I going to play a few bars of my own, standalone.
Cause I think maybe I could continue the jam with some more complex playing later wink.gif

For now I would like you to create a whole solo based on 3 notes!! This is a very good exercise and it will help you a lot!

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 27 2012, 08:31 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 16 2012, 09:15 PM) *
okey sounds good alex smile.gif I have refreshend my mind a bit regarding the notes position. I used to play classical guitar, and knew the notes names and position instantly. But in classical guitar u usually play in position 1, only up to the first fret! which means i had bad knowledge about notes above it. But I have now worked on that and I know the fretboard instantly (almost wink.gif

Also a question, Am I Suppost to continue our sunny jam using this, or am I going to play a few bars of my own, standalone.
Cause I think maybe I could continue the jam with some more complex playing later wink.gif

Hello! I just wanted to check and see how the challenge is coming along? Any questions?

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 3 2012, 09:25 PM

I will do it on wednesday! smile.gif been a bit busy lately, all the time I have had has been spent on theory, excersises and transcribing a song im learning smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 4 2012, 02:28 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 3 2012, 08:25 PM) *
I will do it on wednesday! smile.gif been a bit busy lately, all the time I have had has been spent on theory, excersises and transcribing a song im learning smile.gif

Perfect!!! Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 7 2012, 11:41 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 3 2012, 08:25 PM) *
I will do it on wednesday! smile.gif been a bit busy lately, all the time I have had has been spent on theory, excersises and transcribing a song im learning smile.gif

Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Do you have any questions or need help with anything?
Let me know!

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 10 2012, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 7 2012, 10:41 PM) *
Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Do you have any questions or need help with anything?
Let me know!


Damn school mad.gif
Luckily I will study guitar music next year and not engineering smile.gif
Lets say this wednesday I do the recording smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 11 2012, 06:02 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 10 2012, 07:05 PM) *
Damn school mad.gif
Luckily I will study guitar music next year and not engineering smile.gif
Lets say this wednesday I do the recording smile.gif

sounds great!!! Looking forward to hear it! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 15 2012, 12:22 PM

Hi alex!

here are two files for you, one I recorded using only the notes G-A-B.

Also I made a little improvisation over sunny, using only a minor scale and some pentatonic but no chord tones, just to show some cool ideas I got over improvising on this track lately, mostly tapping smile.gif

cheers

 Sunnychordtones.mp3 ( 2.02MB ) : 86
 sunnyimprovisation.mp3 ( 2.02MB ) : 103
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 15 2012, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 15 2012, 11:22 AM) *
Hi alex!

here are two files for you, one I recorded using only the notes G-A-B.

Also I made a little improvisation over sunny, using only a minor scale and some pentatonic but no chord tones, just to show some cool ideas I got over improvising on this track lately, mostly tapping smile.gif

cheers

You did a good job! The first take you played more than I asked for, this exercise will fix your timing issues and if you will stick with the position I gave, you will get results much quicker! smile.gif
I love your playing and I love your ideas very very well done! The only thing that we need to concentrate on is timing!
You got the technique and a very nice fusion touch! Now let's get it together and you will be brilliant! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 15 2012, 05:41 PM

Thanks Alex smile.gif
You are right, I need more discipline in my playing smile.gif I also want to learn how to play in changes.

So whats the next step? some more timing excersies?
Also, I have good knowledge och the major, minor scales and the major modes, but I should learn some more pentatonics maybe before learning to play in changes, cause pentatonics are almost chords.

Well I mostly think of them as chords so I move them around starting from the root

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 17 2012, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 15 2012, 04:41 PM) *
Thanks Alex smile.gif
You are right, I need more discipline in my playing smile.gif I also want to learn how to play in changes.

So whats the next step? some more timing excersies?
Also, I have good knowledge och the major, minor scales and the major modes, but I should learn some more pentatonics maybe before learning to play in changes, cause pentatonics are almost chords.

Well I mostly think of them as chords so I move them around starting from the root

If you can do another take using only notes I gave you would be great! I recorded a take to give you ideas! This exercise is very good because you will get all attention to the rhythm and will not worry about the notes too much!
Try it out and let me know how it goes! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 17 2012, 06:13 PM

Ah, I see now that you used only these notes in your inspiration track, that was really good to solo like that using 3 notes.
I will listen to it and have another go at it

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 17 2012, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 17 2012, 05:13 PM) *
Ah, I see now that you used only these notes in your inspiration track, that was really good to solo like that using 3 notes.
I will listen to it and have another go at it

Cool! Every time I record a take it is based on your assignment! I am doing it to give ideas and inspire you!

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 17 2012, 10:14 PM

Alex, tell more about you music studies in USA wink.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 19 2012, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 17 2012, 09:14 PM) *
Alex, tell more about you music studies in USA wink.gif

I actually have a perfect suggestion for you
You can go to a summer program and try it out! smile.gif
They have it at Berkley and Musicians institute also I think Los Angeles music academy offering a program as well!
Summer program is like you are going to study for a whole summer, practicing and playing every day by the completion you will receive a certificate and if you would like to continue you can stay and continue the whole program!
Let me know if it is something you will be interested in and I will do more research for you! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 21 2012, 09:09 AM

Sure, Do that wink.gif
Also i have recorded some playing of the assignment i will send it today

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 22 2012, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 21 2012, 08:09 AM) *
Sure, Do that wink.gif
Also i have recorded some playing of the assignment i will send it today

Sounds good! I am looking forward to hear it! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 22 2012, 05:45 PM

Here are two takes i din in the week:

 chordtonessunny.mp3 ( 1.69MB ) : 95
 sunnypractice2.mp3 ( 1.38MB ) : 85
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 25 2012, 01:23 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 22 2012, 04:45 PM) *
Here are two takes i din in the week:

You did great! Timing is so much better!
The thing is when you are not focusing on the notes you are fully concentrated on timing and that's how you can get a fast results and will get creative with your rhythms!
I have a few suggestions that will help you even more!
1) Your tone is getting lost in the backing track the reason is that you don't have enough middle frequencies so by adding just a little bit it will improve a lot! If you will also turn down your gain it will help improve your dynamic
2) If you will leave more space between phrases it will help you to build up the solo much smoother!
You did a very good job and I liked your take a lot!
For the next assignment I would like to add a few licks into your library
Here is the tab
Title: 15 Fusion Licks
Tempo = 135
Steel Guitar

Legend
L - tied note
x - dead note
h - hammer on/pull off
b - bend
s - slide
~ - vibrato
g - ghost note
> - accentuated note
t - trill
M - palm mute
. - staccato
P - popping (bass)
S - slapping (bass)
+ - tapping
W - wide vibrato
< - fade in
w - whammy bar
= - tremolo picking
v - brush up
^ - brush down
V - pick stroke up
n - pick stroke down


E |--10-7----------------------|----------------------------|
B |-----------8--10------------|--8-------------------------|
G |--------9--------7--8--9----|-----7--6--7L-7-------------|
D |----------------------------|----------------------------|
A |----------------------------|----------------------------|
E |----------------------------|----------------------------|


--------5--------7----------|-----9--12-9----------------|
----------------------------|--10----------10------------|
--6--7-----6--7-----6s-9----|-----------------11-9L-9----|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|


--10-7-----10-9--5----------|-----------------9--10------|
--------8-----------7-------|--------7--8--10------------|
-----------------------6----|--7--9----------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|


----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
-----------7--6-------------|----------------------------|
--7--8--9--------7----------|----------------------------|
--------------------9--7----|--5--4--5--7----------------|
----------------------------|--------------5-------------|


--------------5--9--5-------|--------------3--2----------|
-----------------------7----|-----------5--------3-------|
-----6--7--8----------------|--6--4--6--------------2----|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|


----------------------------|----------------------------|
--------------------10L10b--|--10-8--7L-7b-7-------------|
-----------7--9--11---------|----------------------------|
--------9-------------------|----------------------------|
--7--10---------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|


----------------------------|-----7-----9--7--10-12-9----|-------|
-----------7-----8--7--10---|--8-----10------------------|--10---|
--6--9--7-----9-------------|----------------------------|-------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|-------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|-------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|-------|


----------------------------|--5--9--5--2----------------|-------|
-----------------------7----|--------------3-------------|-------|
-----------7--9--7--6-------|-----------------2----------|-------|
--------9-------------------|--------------------4-------|-------|
--7--10---------------------|-----------------------5L---|--5----|
----------------------------|----------------------------|-------|


----------------------------|-----7--10-9----------------|-------|
----------------------------|--8-----------10-------8----|--7----|
--------------------6--9----|-----------------9--7-------|-------|
-----4--7--4--5--7----------|----------------------------|-------|
--5-------------------------|----------------------------|-------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|-------|


----------------------------|-----------7--10-9L-9-------|
--------------7--10-8-------|----------------------------|
-----------------------9----|--7--8--9-------------------|
--9--7--8--9----------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|
----------------------------|----------------------------|


--9--10-9-------------------------------------------|
-----------10----------10-12-10-8--7--8--7----------|
--------------9--10-11----------------------9--7----|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------5--9--5--7-------------------------|
-----6--7--8--9--------------7----------------------|
--6-----------------------------7--6--7-------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


--------------------5--7-----5-----3-----2----------|
--------5--6--7--8--------------------------3-------|
--6--7-----------------------------------------2----|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------2--3--2----------------------------------|
--------3-----------5--3--2--------5--3-------------|
--3--4-----------------------2--2-------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


--------------8--------------------7--10-9----------|
-----------------7--------------8-----------10------|
--7--5--6--7--------7--6--7--9-----------------9----|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
--6--7----------------------------------------------|
--------9--7--5--4--2--0L----------------------0----|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


--------15-14-12----12------------------------------|
-----------------15----15-14-12----12---------------|
--11s12-------------------------14----14-12-11-12---|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


----------------------------------------------------|
-----------------------15L15b15L---------15---------|
--11-------------14-16------------------------------|
-----14-12-14-16------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------|


--10-7----------------------------------------------|
--------------10-8----------------------------------|
--------9--7--------------9--7--6--7--6-------------|
--------------------9--7-----------------7-----7----|
--------------------------------------------9-------|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------7--9--10L10------------------||
--------------7--8--10------------------------------||
-----6--7--9----------------------------------------||
--9-------------------------------------------------||
----------------------------------------------------||
----------------------------------------------------||

Here is guitar pro
 15_Fusion_Licks.gpx ( 20.63K ) : 87

You don't have to learn them all at once just take your time and do one by one
I will ad my take in a few hours and will be using some of those licks! smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 25 2012, 02:13 PM

Cool Alex wink.gif I will check them out and try to use them in sunny and other cool tracks..
after that maybe we could check out the changes in sunny and I could learnt to play it.

We talked about it previous assignments but I didnt get it fully, but we were supposed to start with pentatonics over certain chords right?

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 27 2012, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 25 2012, 01:13 PM) *
Cool Alex wink.gif I will check them out and try to use them in sunny and other cool tracks..
after that maybe we could check out the changes in sunny and I could learnt to play it.

We talked about it previous assignments but I didnt get it fully, but we were supposed to start with pentatonics over certain chords right?

I would like you to start with learning a couple of licks and in the meantime I will prepare another assignment!
This licks will help you get new ideas and will lead to your own phrases! I think it is very important if we will concentrate on those first! Let's do it for a week and after that we will move to something new! smile.gif
Let me know what you think! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Sep 27 2012, 04:37 PM

Yes of course alex, sounds good, but that next assignment, does it involve something that has to do with changes as I proposed wink.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 30 2012, 04:18 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 27 2012, 03:37 PM) *
Yes of course alex, sounds good, but that next assignment, does it involve something that has to do with changes as I proposed wink.gif

Those licks will help you learn how to play over II - V - I chord progressions and the whole playing over the changes thing is pretty much based on it! So we will take it one step at a time! smile.gif And than I will show you how to use it over different chords!

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 7 2012, 02:23 PM

Alex, a quick question, how do you apporach pentatonics?
I think of them more as chords, bar chords, moveable more than scales..

like this

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Start from root on 6th string

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

start from one note above root (7th note, A, root B )

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

start from root on 5th string..


and so on smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 8 2012, 12:19 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 7 2012, 01:23 PM) *
Alex, a quick question, how do you apporach pentatonics?
I think of them more as chords, bar chords, moveable more than scales..

like this

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Start from root on 6th string

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

start from one note above root (7th note, A, root B )

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

start from root on 5th string..


and so on smile.gif



I am not really sure what you meant but from what I understood you are looking at pentatonics as chords and it is a good way to look at them as well I am looking at positions instead of chords I think it's easier to combine them together but your way is the correct one as well!

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 9 2012, 11:54 AM

Okay, you are looking at the positions, can you explain a bit more? Also how do u usually combine pentatonics?

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 11 2012, 06:15 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 9 2012, 10:54 AM) *
Okay, you are looking at the positions, can you explain a bit more? Also how do u usually combine pentatonics?

It's very easy! You just have to take parts from one pentatonic and combine it with another one!
Let's work on creating licks! Try to take a few notes from E minor pentatonic and combine it with B minor try to come up with a few melodic licks
E minor

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

B minor

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
If you can record a few licks and post them here so I can help you out more! smile.gif Would be great!
P.S, I will be doing a video chat in a couple of weeks about combining pentatonic scales I will let you know when and I will be explaining everything in details!

 15_Fusion_Licks.gp5 ( 5.08K ) : 73
 

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 13 2012, 04:54 PM

Okay, was it possible to get Recording mentoring? like you mentioned in the video chat?
Well to be able to be better recordings would be good, and discuss som composion

cheers

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 14 2012, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2012, 03:54 PM) *
Okay, was it possible to get Recording mentoring? like you mentioned in the video chat?
Well to be able to be better recordings would be good, and discuss som composion

cheers

What do you mean by Recording mentoring? Would you like to work on composition and recording?

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 15 2012, 10:52 AM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 14 2012, 04:43 PM) *
What do you mean by Recording mentoring? Would you like to work on composition and recording?


Yes, I think I remebered you had a mentoring invitation for that subject

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 16 2012, 08:25 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 15 2012, 09:52 AM) *
Yes, I think I remebered you had a mentoring invitation for that subject

Perfect! What kind of software do you use? Also do you have any program to create drum tracks?

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 16 2012, 01:38 PM

I Use Axe FX ultra, reaper (but I would like to get pro tools but u needed a usb key so couldnt DL it)
EZ drummer.

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 18 2012, 06:44 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 16 2012, 12:38 PM) *
I Use Axe FX ultra, reaper (but I would like to get pro tools but u needed a usb key so couldnt DL it)
EZ drummer.

Cool EZ drummer is a good program lets start with drums and form of your song!
Also what style would you like to do?

Posted by: ElHombre Oct 28 2012, 11:46 AM

I would like to keep working with the fusion stuff we have been working on.
But I could use some recording assistance in a few song ideas, but I will probably only do a post or week a so.

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 31 2012, 08:41 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 28 2012, 10:46 AM) *
I would like to keep working with the fusion stuff we have been working on.
But I could use some recording assistance in a few song ideas, but I will probably only do a post or week a so.

I have an ideas how about we will combine two things together! Let's make a track in a style of fusion that you can jam over!
What type of software do you use? And do you have any software to program drums? Let me know!

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 1 2012, 03:28 PM

Yes sounds good alex, check my above post, I use ez drummer and reaper.
I recently get an axe fx cheap from USA too that im very happy with

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 2 2012, 07:19 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 1 2012, 02:28 PM) *
Yes sounds good alex, check my above post, I use ez drummer and reaper.
I recently get an axe fx cheap from USA too that im very happy with

Awesome! I use Axe fx myself and absolutely love it! It is a great unit!!!
So let's start by figuring out the tempo and a structure of your song!
What do you have in mind?

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 12 2012, 07:19 PM

Here is a basic rythmic idea for a song of mine.
The idea is to have this kind of catchy start rythm ,then the song will evolve into slower parts with some cool chords you can play arpeggios and som changes over:

Check it out, played 5 times, 1 time slowly

 songrythmicideasv1.mp3 ( 608.98K ) : 93
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 13 2012, 09:10 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 12 2012, 06:19 PM) *
Here is a basic rythmic idea for a song of mine.
The idea is to have this kind of catchy start rythm ,then the song will evolve into slower parts with some cool chords you can play arpeggios and som changes over:

Check it out, played 5 times, 1 time slowly

It sounded very interesting! Let's organize it better!
start with the drums first!
What program do you have to program drums?

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 13 2012, 09:43 PM

Wonder if that rythm will be suitable to play over, or I am going to have that as intro and change the riff a bit for the lead playing?

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 14 2012, 08:34 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 13 2012, 08:43 PM) *
Wonder if that rythm will be suitable to play over, or I am going to have that as intro and change the riff a bit for the lead playing?

Try out a few different once! It is always a good idea to start with drums! Pretend you are building a house
Drums and bass is a foundation so you need to get it first!

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 14 2012, 04:23 PM

I have ideas for bassline I will experiment some and come back

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 15 2012, 06:55 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 14 2012, 03:23 PM) *
I have ideas for bassline I will experiment some and come back

Sounds good! Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 21 2012, 05:46 PM

So now I will display my idea smile.gif no bass yet tough smile.gif
Well the song starts without drums, displaying the riff, then drums come in.
Riff is played twice and then we have a variation.

Then a classical rythm stop and a bend of course smile.gif just displaying what I have in mind.
Well the record is off timing and stuff, and sound is very bad, dont get a good crunch tone, but its just to dispaly the idea check it out


What is problem now, well it starts of kind of rock/bluesy, so there is going to be a slow jazzy part where I wonder which chords to pick.
Also I will check out some more variations with some cool chords.

Also Im thinking of only playing lead to drums and bass.

I send you one file too with some ideas for jazzy lead part.



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 newsongprojectfusion.mp3 ( 965.71K ) : 95
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 23 2012, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 21 2012, 04:46 PM) *
So now I will display my idea smile.gif no bass yet tough smile.gif
Well the song starts without drums, displaying the riff, then drums come in.
Riff is played twice and then we have a variation.

Then a classical rythm stop and a bend of course smile.gif just displaying what I have in mind.
Well the record is off timing and stuff, and sound is very bad, dont get a good crunch tone, but its just to dispaly the idea check it out


What is problem now, well it starts of kind of rock/bluesy, so there is going to be a slow jazzy part where I wonder which chords to pick.
Also I will check out some more variations with some cool chords.

Also Im thinking of only playing lead to drums and bass.

I send you one file too with some ideas for jazzy lead part.

Sounds very good! I like all the parts and now it's time to put them all together! smile.gif
So let's start by analyzing the chord progression and I will help you to add jazzy chords into it!
What chords did you use?

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 23 2012, 11:53 PM

Hey alex, intro/main riff is in G major tonality.

Playing: G-A-B-D-E
Then C and D powerchord. Then I have a few, what do you call them? Augmented powerchords? I forgot, they are a little everywhere, but everything is in G.

Also alex, do you still have your rock shuffle backing track? coudlt find it on soundcloud

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 25 2012, 11:25 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 23 2012, 10:53 PM) *
Hey alex, intro/main riff is in G major tonality.

Playing: G-A-B-D-E
Then C and D powerchord. Then I have a few, what do you call them? Augmented powerchords? I forgot, they are a little everywhere, but everything is in G.

Also alex, do you still have your rock shuffle backing track? coudlt find it on soundcloud

Awesome! give me a few hours and I will prepare an assignment for you based on the track!
Can you please upload it without your solo?
I will check on soundcloud it should be there! If it's not I will upload it straight into your thread!

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 25 2012, 01:07 PM

Here you go Alex
First lead part which focus more on rythm and groove.
I took the advice from cosmin here on the forum to slowly build up a song.

The rythm sounded a little thin just in the beginning to play with (it would of course get better with bass and proper recording)
But I choose to play a inverted G chord just in the beginnig,you hear "dadada-da"

That went well to my ears smile.gif

Then there will be the second variation, then the stop, go back to first then the jazz comes in smile.gif

 fusionsongintro.mp3 ( 655.51K ) : 104
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 27 2012, 08:36 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 25 2012, 12:07 PM) *
Here you go Alex
First lead part which focus more on rythm and groove.
I took the advice from cosmin here on the forum to slowly build up a song.

The rythm sounded a little thin just in the beginning to play with (it would of course get better with bass and proper recording)
But I choose to play a inverted G chord just in the beginnig,you hear "dadada-da"

That went well to my ears smile.gif

Then there will be the second variation, then the stop, go back to first then the jazz comes in smile.gif

It sounds very good but I would suggest a better build up! Like start even slower and build it up to the jazz part! I think it might sound very cool! If you can upload backing track only I will be able to give you some more ideas smile.gif
Here is the Shuffle track you asked for
 _rockshuffle.mp3 ( 2.29MB ) : 92

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 27 2012, 01:17 PM

Added some bass, got kind of groovy now to my ears smile.gif
Its in G, like I said in previous post what I play, I will come with some more info if needed, since this is only the first riff idea.
There is a second which needs some variations, and the jazz part of course. everything is 4/4 100 bpm

 fusionbackingintro.mp3 ( 807.35K ) : 76
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 29 2012, 09:44 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 27 2012, 12:17 PM) *
Added some bass, got kind of groovy now to my ears smile.gif
Its in G, like I said in previous post what I play, I will come with some more info if needed, since this is only the first riff idea.
There is a second which needs some variations, and the jazz part of course. everything is 4/4 100 bpm

It sounds very good I have technical difficulties with my sound card so I had to listen to it through my headphones I will be able to give you better comments when my sound will be back in a few days!
In the meantime if you can let me know the chord progression so I can record my improvisation to give you more ideas as soon as the sound is bak on!

Posted by: ElHombre Nov 30 2012, 04:22 PM

Great idea alex smile.gif the fusion master shredding over my track, that would give some inspiration smile.gif
I changed my mind a little, I will do a jazz part (i will show you it soon) playing right after the rock riff, then a slow, mixed jazz/fusion part will come

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 30 2012, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Nov 30 2012, 03:22 PM) *
Great idea alex smile.gif the fusion master shredding over my track, that would give some inspiration smile.gif
I changed my mind a little, I will do a jazz part (i will show you it soon) playing right after the rock riff, then a slow, mixed jazz/fusion part will come

It's my pleasure! smile.gif
I am looking forward to hear jazz part!!! Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 2 2012, 10:48 PM

Its not going well with ideas.. cant get anything to work..
here is one that sounds crap when i try to play along:

sorry for the bad tone, just picked a tone to show u

 jazzidea.mp3 ( 333.47K ) : 70
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 3 2012, 07:04 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 2 2012, 09:48 PM) *
Its not going well with ideas.. cant get anything to work..
here is one that sounds crap when i try to play along:

sorry for the bad tone, just picked a tone to show u

Hmmm It doesn't sound like a jazz part yet
What chords did you use?

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 4 2012, 08:54 AM

Yes I know, I tried to mix it up a little didnt get good.
I use F# dim, a7,b7,a13 and some other chords

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 4 2012, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 4 2012, 07:54 AM) *
Yes I know, I tried to mix it up a little didnt get good.
I use F# dim, a7,b7,a13 and some other chords

Would you want to keep it clean or add some distortion? I didn't hear those changes on the recording you have uploaded maybe try playing full chords to make it clearer?

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 6 2012, 10:19 AM

I know exactly how i want it to sound now but.cant get a good progression to fit

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 7 2012, 05:33 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 6 2012, 09:19 AM) *
I know exactly how i want it to sound now but.cant get a good progression to fit

Maybe you can show me an example of something similar?

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 7 2012, 08:28 AM

I will give you a few both rythm and lead examples Alex!
The thing is I went away from the idea to create a sudden jazz piece, It could be cool but I wanted to to like a hybrid jazz and rock rythm, it was a little hard so I will try a few other things.

I am going to have 3 parts tough, 1 intro/main riff 1 verse, 1 chorus rythm (which will be an emotional part).

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 8 2012, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 7 2012, 07:28 AM) *
I will give you a few both rythm and lead examples Alex!
The thing is I went away from the idea to create a sudden jazz piece, It could be cool but I wanted to to like a hybrid jazz and rock rythm, it was a little hard so I will try a few other things.

I am going to have 3 parts tough, 1 intro/main riff 1 verse, 1 chorus rythm (which will be an emotional part).

Sounds good man! I will be more than happy to help you out! If you can post parts ideas and also give examples of sounds you are looking for would be great!

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 8 2012, 12:44 PM

Actually the first idea jazz part was cool to jam to now, that I went clean, I dont know why I used such a bad tone.
here is the backing track, the chords for the jazz part are:

The "G" is that little starting lick which is E E G A

G F#dim A7 B7
G F#dim B7 Bm7
G F#dim A7 B7
G F#dim A13 A7


Now have little jam yourself, on all parts.
And then comment on the jazz part, if its not so good to your ears, what you be altered in the progression?

 songbacking2.mp3 ( 1.92MB ) : 124
 

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 9 2012, 12:03 AM

Here is my playing!
Some things are improv, but the ideas you can hear in the track smile.gif

The idea on the more jazzy part is exactly what I heard in my head and transfered to the fretboard smile.gif

 songleadideas.mp3 ( 1.92MB ) : 125
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 9 2012, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 8 2012, 11:03 PM) *
Here is my playing!
Some things are improv, but the ideas you can hear in the track smile.gif

The idea on the more jazzy part is exactly what I heard in my head and transfered to the fretboard smile.gif

This is very cool! I like the melody and your solo is very cool and creative! The only suggestion I will have is to make it tighter because you are rushing a little bit on the solo and the main riff! Other than that it is very good! Like the jazz part a lot! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 9 2012, 12:30 PM

thanks alex smile.gif
Yes I will make it a little more structured and with better timing and also get a better tone smile.gif
I used too much distortion

Now a little song structure, first I have the intro/main riff, then the verse which is jazz, then a little pre chorus which is main riff again, and then I will do the slower part, which will be the chorus.

Then after that, should I do a verse again, going for the jazz? and then make a outro with the intro riff?
what do you think?

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 9 2012, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 9 2012, 11:30 AM) *
thanks alex smile.gif
Yes I will make it a little more structured and with better timing and also get a better tone smile.gif
I used too much distortion

Now a little song structure, first I have the intro/main riff, then the verse which is jazz, then a little pre chorus which is main riff again, and then I will do the slower part, which will be the chorus.

Then after that, should I do a verse again, going for the jazz? and then make a outro with the intro riff?
what do you think?

I think it sounds like a good idea it's hard to tell unless we will hear it you can always move parts around and get the structure that you are looking for
Try it out an lets hear what it sounds like

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 18 2012, 09:10 PM

Jazz part updated, and I have a new idea for the song, a piano lydian part in the middle, and ending it all with some jazz again smile.gif
Cant come up with a good progression.

The song is in G. It contains the C lydian mode.. so the question is go for G lydian or C lydian to get the same key?

 jazzupdate.mp3 ( 878.37K ) : 115
 

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 19 2012, 06:49 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 18 2012, 08:10 PM) *
Jazz part updated, and I have a new idea for the song, a piano lydian part in the middle, and ending it all with some jazz again smile.gif
Cant come up with a good progression.

The song is in G. It contains the C lydian mode.. so the question is go for G lydian or C lydian to get the same key?

Sounds much better! Great timing and the whole performance is very interesting! smile.gif
To stay in G you have to play C lydian
Looking forward to hear the finished version! smile.gif

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 19 2012, 02:53 PM

Do you know a good proggression suitable for lydian mode alex?

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 21 2012, 06:28 AM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 19 2012, 01:53 PM) *
Do you know a good proggression suitable for lydian mode alex?

Of course
try this one:
C - Emi - Bmi - G

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 25 2012, 01:50 PM

Hi Alex hope you had a nice christmas smile.gif
Well lets go back to some fusion training again.

Well I listen to a lot of music and try to pick up things from there and come up with my own, but I need to learn more licks down the fretboard too, so I was thinking of learning greg howes improvistation of sunny, where can I learn some more cool licks?

Also can we pratice playing in changes? We can start from the beginning if you would like
We have done some pratice over this but we can go back and start from there

Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 26 2012, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 25 2012, 12:50 PM) *
Hi Alex hope you had a nice christmas smile.gif
Well lets go back to some fusion training again.

Well I listen to a lot of music and try to pick up things from there and come up with my own, but I need to learn more licks down the fretboard too, so I was thinking of learning greg howes improvistation of sunny, where can I learn some more cool licks?

Also can we pratice playing in changes? We can start from the beginning if you would like
We have done some pratice over this but we can go back and start from there

Hi! unfortunately I am not gonna be able to continue mentoring you the reason is that my program will be closing in a few days...

Posted by: ElHombre Dec 27 2012, 04:55 PM

I just noticed, good luck Alex smile.gif
thanks for all help

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