Trouble With Pinch Armonics
naule
Mar 14 2009, 04:59 AM
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Hi Lian, how is going on ? hope everything good. Well i see in your forum that the most of metal lesson are in your hands, its a hard work, but metal is a genre very demanded here. ok, go back to the main theme.
I have a trouble with pinch armonic. I saw a lot of in stile of lessons, like zakk wilde... or something like that. Its really hard to get this sound. I can the artificial armonics in grave strings, hard too but possible, but the sound isnt like that.
If you have a trick or a method that you can tell me , you will do me a great favour.


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Hola Lian , como va todo ? espero que vaya genial wink.gif. veo en el foro que casi todas las lecciones de metal que piden son para ti , es un trabajo duro, pero bien sabes que el metal es un genero muy demandado y muy interesante para el desarrollo del aprendizaje como guitarrista. Bueno, volviendo al tema principal.
Tengo problemas con esos pinch armonics. He visto las lecciones de zakk wilde y cosas del estilo y me resulta extremadamente dificiles conseguir ese sonido particular. lo maximo que consigo hacer es armonicos artificiales en las cuerdas graves, un poco complicados de por si, pero no suena como eso. quizas mi error este en el bending o nose...
si tienes algun truco, te lo agradeceria muchisimo. puf , en serio, la leccion de amon amarth me dejo ... en el sitio, que grande!
Yo estoy intentando hacer algo para un grupo propio pero nose aun en que estilo hacerlo, si medio viking-folk o metalcore, o hacer una fusion entre ambos, cosa que seria digna de ver xD .
Bueno compañero, me despido por hoy ,aver si me puedes decir algo pronto.
Cuidate mucho wink.gif
P.D al final no se si es mas rapida que lo escrito en ingles

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Lian Gerbino
Mar 15 2009, 11:12 PM
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well, man! yeah... pinch harmonics, it´s a difficult thing you know.
I could make a lesson exclusively based on that, with some close-ups over that technique. what do u think about that?


Bueno, te lo voy a explicar en castellano, por que me es más sencillo tongue.gif
para lograr los pinch harmonics, o "los chiflidos" como les decimos aca, lo q tenés que hacer es un ligero movimiento con el borde de tu dedo gordo, con el q sujetas la pua, y al momento de golpear la cuerda, acercar el dedo, de modo que la pua y el dedo token la cuerda casi al mismo tiempo. es algo dificil, pero una vez que veas por dnd va vas a poder encontrar una forma comoda de desarrollarlo.
aún asi, no habría poblema de hacer una lesson exclusiva de esto, con un buen close-up de la technica.
espero que sirva tongue.gif
saludos!

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Mar 16 2009, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ Mar 15 2009, 11:12 PM) *
lo q tenés que hacer es un ligero movimiento con el borde de tu dedo gordo, con el q sujetas la pua, y al momento de golpear la cuerda, acercar el dedo, de modo que la pua y el dedo token la cuerda casi al mismo tiempo. es algo dificil, pero una vez que veas por dnd va vas a poder encontrar una forma comoda de desarrollarlo.


entiendo.Parecido al armonico artificial. De todas maneras, la mayoria de guitarristas que los hace, veo que usan un bending muy exagerado despues de hacerlo. es necesario o solo le da otro efecto ?
Gracias por contestar^^

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Apologies Lian - particularly as this is your sub-forum- and Naule since I appreciate that your posts are mainly intended for Lian.

If you can please post in English as it would help others to understand the conversation and may also maximise the number of responses received. English is the preferred language on the forum and although some of us, including myself, can speak and understand Spanish many members can not. Also, some members may also have a similar issue with fingering in order to get an artificial and pinch harmonics so may benefit directly. Cheers.

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QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ Mar 15 2009, 11:12 PM) *
well, man! yeah... pinch harmonics, it´s a difficult thing you know.
I could make a lesson exclusively based on that, with some close-ups over that technique. what do u think about that?


that would be awesome smile.gif

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Lian Gerbino
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 16 2009, 06:21 PM) *
Apologies Lian - particularly as this is your sub-forum- and Naule since I appreciate that your posts are mainly intended for Lian.

If you can please post in English as it would help others to understand the conversation and may also maximise the number of responses received. English is the preferred language on the forum and although some of us, including myself, can speak and understand Spanish many members can not. Also, some members may also have a similar issue with fingering in order to get an artificial and pinch harmonics so may benefit directly. Cheers.

Best,
Tony


you´r right man, sorry! and no need to apologies wink.gif
I´ll try to explain as I can tongue.gif

Basically a pinch harmonic is produced when the pick hits the string then the thumb touches the string after.
so, the better way to develop this technique is hit the string over and over again with the pick followed your thumb´s movement until to find the expected pich harmonic.

as I said, I´m working on a full lesson based in this technique that I hope it will be more useful than my weird explanations tongue.gif

CYa

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Thanks Lian smile.gif

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