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bleez View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 21 2013, 12:57 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	Its probably quite a common exercise but it was new to me. Im finding it almost impossible to get my 3rd finger moving independently of my pinkie. I can do it better on the descending part of the exercise for some reason but going up the strings is a nightmare! Im literally staring at my 3rd finger trying to will it to move! is this a tough exercise or is it me? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 21 2013, 01:27 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Hey mate It's only a matter of finger independence Check this out, try it and in time, you'll manage to separate the third from the fourth. Out of what I know, they are anatomically linked, so they will always cause some fuss... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 21 2013, 01:36 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Yes - it is normal that you are having trouble when starting to do these exercises. Please check out this finger independance lesson series on GMC focusing on this approach : https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonser...r-Independence/ 3rd finger is our weakest finger on the hand and as such tends to take power from "neighbouring" fingers. Over time, as you train it and gain more independant finger strength, you'll notice it is getting easier to "separate" individual finger movements from other fingers. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

verciazghra View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 02:09 PM
Oct 21 2013, 02:09 PM	GMC:er Posts: 467 Joined: 10-July 13	Never had any problems with these kinds of exercises. But I've seen many many people have problems with them. Maybe cause I play in classical position, dunno. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "To achieve great things, two things are needed; a plan, and not quite enough time." -Leonard Bernstein "The only love affair I have ever had was with music." -Maurice Ravel "There's no such place as dumb question." -Dose One

gregc1 View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 02:24 PM
Oct 21 2013, 02:24 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 540 Joined: 21-January 12 From: Florida, United States	I have the same issue Bleez. My little finger and ring finger are virtually locked together in motion. I have actually done this drill you posted quite a bit over time and it has helped but I do need to focus in on some of these independence exercises like the ones posted by Cosmin and Bogdan. Speed has always been an issue for me and one of the main culprits is the relationship between those two fingers. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

Darius Wave View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 02:27 PM
Oct 21 2013, 02:27 PM	Instructor Posts: 5.871 Joined: 29-November 12 From: Poland	Your not alone I have similar connection between those two fingers but somehow I'm able to separate them while playing. Probably only a matter of practice You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my lessons and my instructor profile www.facebook.com/DariusWave www.youtube.pl/vavrzyn www.niebonie.pl www.jammingcherry.pl www.facebook.com/druzyna.wawrzyna

VilleFIN View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 02:43 PM
Oct 21 2013, 02:43 PM	Tone Seeker Posts: 1.430 Joined: 10-March 08 From: Finland	Well, I can do it Ok. But this is really a great exercise. Thanks for sharing this vid An old teacher of mine showed this, it could be useful for you too. Just keep all fingers on high e string and start doing hammer on and pull offs with finger 1 on b string. You have to keep all 3 fingers on e string. Then use finger 2, then 3 etc. Sorry for background noise You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by WeePee: Oct 21 2013, 06:18 PM -------------------- My SoundCloud My Youtube videos My Facebook page

bleez View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 06:14 PM
Oct 21 2013, 06:14 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	cool, Its encouraging to know that some of you guys have had to work on this area as well I was a bit surprised at just how difficult I found it! Thanks very much for the vids as well, awesome ideas which I'll definitely be using. I like those a lot because they feel like a better starting point for me, it seems I'll need to put in a bit of work before I can even practice the original exercise. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Headbanger View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 06:31 PM
Oct 21 2013, 06:31 PM	GMC:er Posts: 877 Joined: 18-January 13 From: 3rd stone from the Sun	I wonder if Dr.Hotlicks has an exercise for getting into that sleeping bag on the wall behind him. Joking aside...My wife is learning the Keyboard and has similar problems...I told her about these exercises. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Headbanger: Oct 21 2013, 06:46 PM -------------------- Dwayne by thepenmover, on Flickr The Pen Mover Flickr Instagram Carbonmade Etsy

Opetholic View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 06:54 PM
Oct 21 2013, 06:54 PM	Learning Guitar Lord Posts: 803 Joined: 2-May 12 From: Holland	I have classical guitar background and this chromatic exercise is one of the first things you learn to do while learning classical guitar. It is very useful and important I think.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 07:17 PM
Oct 21 2013, 07:17 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	I used to practice lots of chromatic exercises in my diary routines so I don't think that finger independence gives me too much trouble but I have never played that exercise in that way and I don't find it easy. I will definitely add it to my practice. Here I recorded my favourite independence exercise: You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

bleez View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 09:05 PM
Oct 21 2013, 09:05 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 3.348 Joined: 4-November 11 From: Scotland	QUOTE (Headbanger @ Oct 21 2013, 06:31 PM) I wonder if Dr.Hotlicks has an exercise for getting into that sleeping bag on the wall behind him. Im sure he does..... he is a doctor afterall, so im guessing he's quite a clever chap QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 21 2013, 07:17 PM) I used to practice lots of chromatic exercises in my diary routines so I don't think that finger independence gives me too much trouble but I have never played that exercise in that way and I don't find it easy. I will definitely add it to my practice. Here I recorded my favourite independence exercise: thats quite a clever exercise, I like it. cheers for posting it dude. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *You say 'minor pentatonic* ' like it's a bad thing**

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Oct 21 2013, 10:32 PM
Oct 21 2013, 10:32 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Classical Guitar really helped me a TON with finger independence. There are so many etudes where you are playing a partial chord with several fingers moving one or two fingers to create a moving melody line. Part of why I am always suggesting folks get a classical guitar in addition to their acoustic and electric and learn just a few bits on Classical. Not to mention the right hand picking work that is required which can also be applied in very interesting ways But you have to remember that especially here in the states, classical guitar as an instrument is a bit more rare IMHO than finding that someone has an electric and one acoustic. That's quite common. Less common is finding someone with electric, acoustic and nylon string classical. Also, finding instruction for classical is a pinch harder than finding instruction for electric, acoustic, even banjo. The first classical instructor I ever ran across wasn't until college! There was certainly no classical guitar instruction in high school or my local music stores. QUICK POLL: WHO HAS A NYLON STRING/CLASSICAL GUITAR? WHO HAS HAD ANY CLASSICAL GUITAR PERSONAL INSTRUCTION? Todd QUOTE (verciazghra @ Oct 21 2013, 09:09 AM) Never had any problems with these kinds of exercises. But I've seen many many people have problems with them. Maybe cause I play in classical position, dunno. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Oct 21 2013, 10:33 PM -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

jstcrsn View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 01:30 AM
Oct 22 2013, 01:30 AM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.622 Joined: 29-March 08 From: kansas, USA	QUOTE (bleez @ Oct 21 2013, 12:57 PM) Its probably quite a common exercise but it was new to me. Im finding it almost impossible to get my 3rd finger moving independently of my pinkie. I can do it better on the descending part of the exercise for some reason but going up the strings is a nightmare! Im literally staring at my 3rd finger trying to will it to move! is this a tough exercise or is it me? I really dont like exercises like this , I have found it trains many people to play four notes and when they skip strings there is a slight variation(pause) thus improperly training good alt. picking You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

DeGroot View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 02:22 AM
Oct 22 2013, 02:22 AM	Experienced Guitar Hero Posts: 1.511 Joined: 16-January 12 From: Chicago, Illinois	QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 21 2013, 09:32 PM) QUICK POLL: WHO HAS A NYLON STRING/CLASSICAL GUITAR? WHO HAS HAD ANY CLASSICAL GUITAR PERSONAL INSTRUCTION? Todd I borrowed a classical from a friend when I took a beginner course in college. The course helped me build some solid fundamentals. I don't have a classical/nylon around anymore but I will get one eventually. Really like classical etudes and would like to learn to play some on classical guitar. As far as some of these finger training excersises I think are really good for building strength for finger indepenence. Perfect kind of practice while just watching some television. I still play some of the Steve Vai training excersises which are similar to the video. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 03:10 AM
Oct 22 2013, 03:10 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	I would say go for it!! I have owned a classical ever since I studied it for bit in college and I still like playing it. Also, you can use a pick with it to get a sort of jazz like vibe. Mine has a pickup/eq built in for recording which is handy. It's an old Yamaha unit. You can pick up a used classical with onboard preamp for a couple/few hundred bux Todd P.S. JSCRSN: Well, you can't make everybody happy all the time But you do seem prone to be just a tad "mr. grumpy pants" sometimes? We won't make you do this particular finger drill So you won't have to worry about "training yourself to have gaps" and such. But for other folks, I'd say sure It will help your finger independence. QUOTE (DeGroot @ Oct 21 2013, 09:22 PM) I borrowed a classical from a friend when I took a beginner course in college. The course helped me build some solid fundamentals. I don't have a classical/nylon around anymore but I will get one eventually. Really like classical etudes and would like to learn to play some on classical guitar. As far as some of these finger training excersises I think are really good for building strength for finger indepenence. Perfect kind of practice while just watching some television. I still play some of the Steve Vai training excersises which are similar to the video. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Oct 22 2013, 03:10 AM -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

jstcrsn View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 03:27 AM
Oct 22 2013, 03:27 AM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.622 Joined: 29-March 08 From: kansas, USA	QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 22 2013, 03:10 AM) I would say go for it!! I have owned a classical ever since I studied it for bit in college and I still like playing it. Also, you can use a pick with it to get a sort of jazz like vibe. Mine has a pickup/eq built in for recording which is handy. It's an old Yamaha unit. You can pick up a used classical with onboard preamp for a couple/few hundred bux Todd P.S. JSCRSN: Well, you can't make everybody happy all the time But you do seem prone to be just a tad "mr. grumpy pants" sometimes? We won't make you do this particular finger drill So you won't have to worry about "training yourself to have gaps" and such. But for other folks, I'd say sure It will help your finger independence. just cause I dont agree with your political views doesn't mean you got to get lippy You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

DeGroot View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 04:08 AM
Oct 22 2013, 04:08 AM	Experienced Guitar Hero Posts: 1.511 Joined: 16-January 12 From: Chicago, Illinois	QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 22 2013, 02:10 AM) I would say go for it!! I have owned a classical ever since I studied it for bit in college and I still like playing it. Also, you can use a pick with it to get a sort of jazz like vibe. Mine has a pickup/eq built in for recording which is handy. It's an old Yamaha unit. You can pick up a used classical with onboard preamp for a couple/few hundred bux Todd The classical I borrowed was actually a older Yamaha w/ pickup & eq and the one you have looks similar. High quality guitar, great sound and played very comfotable! Probably exactly what I will go for. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 08:12 AM
Oct 22 2013, 08:12 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	All my classical trained friends have amazing finger independence - there's this guy that I play at Mozart Rocks! with - I've seen him play some very intricate chord shapes and solo in the same time on the classical guitar. Onstage he uses this sort of instrument: http://www.godinguitars.com/godinmultnylonsap.htm and it sounds heavenly! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Darius Wave View Member Profile	Oct 22 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 22 2013, 03:05 PM	Instructor Posts: 5.871 Joined: 29-November 12 From: Poland	I'm very glad that my father sent me to the music school. Those years of playing classic guitar gave me lot! Still own some classics You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my lessons and my instructor profile www.facebook.com/DariusWave www.youtube.pl/vavrzyn www.niebonie.pl www.jammingcherry.pl www.facebook.com/druzyna.wawrzyna

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