Axe Fx Ii Vs Kemper Profiling Amp |
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Jun 22 2013, 10:31 AM
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Hi guys!
I have been thinking for some time now about what would make the ultimate home recording gear setup (that can go up to professional results). Thinking of guitars signal chain, I think it is so much easier to record "direct" as opposed to using amp and mic (in home studio application). But to get as "professional" results, only two devices come to my mind : Axe FX II and Kemper Profiling Amp From what I heard these devises sound awesome and with good quality sound card we can easily capture their sound without complications of micing different amps etc. The questions is : which device is more versatile for this application (recording) and which device sounds better? Never had a chance to hear one live and probably never will for a long time (until local stores get them), so this is truly theoretical question 
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Jun 22 2013, 11:39 AM
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I would say the Axe Fx II, they are both very close to each other in terms of quality of amp modelling/profiling, the Axe has much more tweakability to create that which can't be done with an amp. It also has much more in terms of effect and routing capabilities.
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Jun 22 2013, 01:07 PM
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Kemper - I like the tones that it produces to my ears it sounds closer to the real deal. I also have the original lunchbox looking one which I like how simple it is to change settings simple like a real amp, touch of a knob and done. Recording I wish it was a USB interface so I could remove my interface and just use it.
Axe-FX - Never used it but judging from videos, I think it doesn't sound quite match the real deal, but thats only due to EQ'ing. Which I'm sure after messing around with it you could get the same quality as the Kemper. I do like the fact it can be used as a USB interface. Also everyone likes to use the Axe-FX has more pedals, delays, effect options, you'd be surprised as to the amount that is in the Kemper. Just you only get 4 slots before the amp, 2 slots after for anything, then a delay and reverb after as well. So the Axe is more customized in how much and where. I feel it is more of a personal preference as they are both flagship items, they both will give you the same quality in the end on a mix. It's just all in do you want to spend time tweaking or not. I personally just want to plug and play, the Kemper gives me that. I change a patch adjust my bass/mid/treb and then play. -------------------- Guitars:
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Jun 23 2013, 03:24 AM
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If you mean the hum, Axe FX does produce that hum.
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Jun 23 2013, 06:09 AM
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The main thing is amp in the room feel which I think is what you mean, both units emulate an amp mic'd up, but live if going through a power amp and cab you can get that amp in the room feel, saying that I have heard people say it's getting closer and closer especially with the latest Axe Fx update
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Jun 23 2013, 10:56 PM
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Thanks a lot guys! It is really interesting to hear that Kemper can do almost as much as AXE FX.
Why AXE wins in the effects department? Are the main effects like stompboxes included in Kemper as well? (for example delay, chorus, wah, flanger, compressor, envelope filter)? I think having ability to "profile" an amp is really interesting. Are there tons of profiles out there, made by Kemper users that you can download for amps that are not built in? How many amps are included by factory defaults in the unit? -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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). Since you will most likely always have some FX in the chain and want to work with IRs you might already use for a while (and know how to tweak them) I guess the AxeFX is the way to go.
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Jun 25 2013, 10:40 PM
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but. ...
Here is a link to download the AXE EDIT program (which is free) that serves as a PC/mac visual editor for your AXE FX patches. Making it pretty easy to drag and drop complex patches. IT will run fine WITHOUT THE AXE FX as a sort of demo without any sound just to let you get used to the options on the AXE FX. http://www.fractalaudio.com/p-axe-edit-software.php I have not seen a kemper software editor yet but I think one is ready or near ready? Todd |
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Jun 26 2013, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE (David.C.Bond @ Jun 23 2013, 09:26 PM)  BUT it's not $1k worth of better, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the price difference is $200? I can echo what others above have said. I own an AxeFX and have spent a lot of time with the Kemper. Realistically, at this point, there's not a lot of difference between the amp/cabinet tones you can get from them (effects, routing, and performance flexibility clearly favor the AxeFX). The Kemper is a more polished package. A lot more time was spent on the factory presets and the front panel has a more professional appearance. As popular as the AxeFX is, it still feels like Cliff is making them out of his garage. It doesn't look as slick as the Kemper and he's constantly updating the software like he's always tinkering, sometimes altering tones. If you also like to tinker with sounds, then the ride with the AxeFX can be thrilling. But if you want to go down to Guitar Center, plug in, try it out, take it home and not do a lot of tweaking, then the AxeFX might not be for you. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jun 26 2013, 06:37 AM
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Just couldn't stop saying this.. if this is the amp you are referring to http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProfilingAmp, I feel like that looks like some oscilloscope from electrical department, really! I don't think that looks professional in any way to be called an amp or rack box. Thats just how I felt since Rammikin brought the appearance issue, not trying to wage a war.
Anyways, yep the price difference definitely is not 1K as protruded here. Its 200$ as Rammikin said.Bogdan, you will have to try to see which one fits you. I am not sure of Kemper but Axe FX has like 15 day return period and you can return it if you don't like it. |
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Jun 26 2013, 02:39 PM
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Kemper also issued a "normal" rack version of the amp.
Also a version with build in power amp |
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