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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 11 2018, 02:54 PM) *
Regarding the chords and knowing the key, please check out this thread: LINK.


Hello Gabby

Thannks for the the recommending that guide.

in the last section Andrew talks about identifying the Key of a song by figuring out the Tonic chord.
here's a small paragraph that explains this technique:
[ in music there is always a tension and movement between different chords in the song, such that when you get to the tonic or root chord, there is a feeling of resolution, or being back on home ground.]

so in the song that i'm working on i have these chords D minor, G minor and A major. and by listening to the song i feel that the key of this song is Dm.

I even tried to play Dm minor scale over the song, have a listen to the uploaded track and let me know what you think. Attached File  FakrounJam1_.mp3 ( 876.73K ) Number of downloads: 9


I'll keeping working on the sweep lesson, I'm glad that it still sounds good till now

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post Oct 2 2018, 02:18 PM
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Hi Anese, how are you?

Yeah, that's right. Your song is in D minor. That resolution is easy to note because it's the chord that your ear feels as the most suitable to finish the tune, that one that gives and ending, or conclusive feel.

At this point, your thoughts are correct, but there is more to be learnt. You could hear that your tune is in D minor, but there are different "minor variations" so this could not be the natural minor that we all know. This is more advanced but I want you to know that there are more minor scales. Here is a list with the most relevant:

- Natural Minor (Aeolian)
- Dorian
- Phrygian
- Harmonic Minor
- Melodic Minor


Each of these scales are based on a root chord which is minor, but the other chords of the tonality are a bit different. This is a lot of material and you should go slow in order to avoid feel confused but it's important for you to know that maybe Natural minor is not the best option for you in this situation.

Talking about that song. Your chord progression is Dm - Gm - A.

If you explore the chords that form D minor tonality, you will not find one of those chords. Check it out:

Dm Emb5 F Gm Am Bb C


As you can see, there is no A major chord in D minor tonality. The other chords are there, Dm and Gm. This means that you need to make a variation at least when A major sounds. The best option is D harmonic minor, which includes A major instead of A minor.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 2 2018, 03:18 PM) *
As you can see, there is no A major chord in D minor tonality. The other chords are there, Dm and Gm. This means that you need to make a variation at least when A major sounds. The best option is D harmonic minor, which includes A major instead of A minor.

Experiment playing D harmonic minor only when A major chord sounds and then tell me what happens.


Hello Gabby
Thank you for clearing the confusion.
I felt that there was something wrong with the previous recording, I didnt know what it is exactly, but after i read through your explanation it became all clear.

Now i made the same recording with the same licks that i was trying to perform but i changed that one single note that made all the difference C#. Everything feels more aligned and harmonized together now.
here have a listen to this Attached File  blady2_001.mp3 ( 814.69K ) Number of downloads: 10
and let me know what you think.

The next step for me now is to find a good tone to go with the song as I try fill the gabs with different licks between the song verses.
any ideas how to come up with sad/bluesy licks in harmonic minor?
I know this is more about experiment but I think it might sound better to just stick with harmonic minor through all the song instead of playing the minor scale on Dm and Gm chords and playing the harmonic minor scale on the A chord.

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Hi mate,

yeah! now we are talking! Your new improvisation sounds good. I'm glad to know that the explanation helped to clarify this issue. It can be tricky and confusing at first, but it's very important to understand this concepts.

Regarding your question. You can play harmonic minor along the whole progression and it will sound good, however you can lose the effect if you repeat too much that C# note. So I would also try focusing on notes from the chords, using its triads (arpeggios, and focusing mostly on thirds and sometimes fifths or roots. You'll get a more melodic solo by doing it.

By the way, the best that you can do is to experiment with all the notes and see how each one sounds over the backing track. That's what I suggest doing at this point.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 8 2018, 07:05 AM) *
Hi mate,

yeah! now we are talking! Your new improvisation sounds good. I'm glad to know that the explanation helped to clarify this issue. It can be tricky and confusing at first, but it's very important to understand this concepts.

Regarding your question. You can play harmonic minor along the whole progression and it will sound good, however you can lose the effect if you repeat too much that C# note. So I would also try focusing on notes from the chords, using its triads (arpeggios, and focusing mostly on thirds and sometimes fifths or roots. You'll get a more melodic solo by doing it.

By the way, the best that you can do is to experiment with all the notes and see how each one sounds over the backing track. That's what I suggest doing at this point.


Hello Gabby, how are you?

sorry for this quiet long absence, i was working on that sweep picking lesson that finally Im done with, I'm at 90% speed, I need a bit more time to able to play it smoothly at 100% speed.

however, lets go back to the song that i was jamming with.
I odnt know if you can still remember the song and what we talked about, because it's been almost a month now,
so lets refresh your memory

this is the song i intended to jam along with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0On7yBg7p8

after i learned that the song was played in the key of D minor (with the chord progression Dm Gm, and A) by listening and finding the main chord the song settle around was the Dm chord.
then when i posted my first take something sounded wrong as i kept playing the Dm scale over the song, and As a result you told me that the A major is not a part of the Dm scale and it would be a better option if I play D harmonic minor since it has that A note.
so here I uploaded this new video where I play both D harmonic minor and D minor scales, while avoiding playing Dm scale when the A chord is played.


so please check and let me know what you think.

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Hi Anese! Great to hear from you mate!! smile.gif

Thanks for the update regarding your Sweep Picking practice. I would really like to see a video of you playing it at the current tempo to be sure that there is nothing to fix regarding your technique. Feel free to share it this week!

About the improvisation, yes! I remember this very well. I can say that now your note choices are correct and that everything sound in tune and scale here. There is a new element that I would like to mark which needs work and it's timing. There are many phrases in your improvisation that are not going tight with the backing's tempo. The first thing that you should do is listen to this improvisation and try to detect these moments, and then tell me if you find them.

I would also like to know if you'd like to continue focusing on this backing to work on timing or maybe you'd like to work on a new one...


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Nov 19 2018, 04:44 PM) *
Hi Anese! Great to hear from you mate!! smile.gif

Thanks for the update regarding your Sweep Picking practice. I would really like to see a video of you playing it at the current tempo to be sure that there is nothing to fix regarding your technique. Feel free to share it this week!



Hello Gabby

For the sweep picking lesson I have shared two videos playing the first part and second part of it at 90%

here they are :
pt.1 https://youtu.be/1xMoqEOkC28
pt.2 https://youtu.be/5m7yS4Joj6k

should I just upload the last part ? playing it at 90% ?
or you recommend to record the whole lesson in one continuous take at 90% ?
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There are many phrases in your improvisation that are not going tight with the backing's tempo. The first thing that you should do is listen to this improvisation and try to detect these moments, and then tell me if you find them.


The only thing I can hear is that there are some phrases that might sound they started a bit before the rhythm chord.
but i can not really hear if the phrase is being played at the wrong tempo or whatsoever

i do not mind if you help me to appoint those issues and start working on them, BUT if you see that we better change the backing track material for a better learning musical environment then I do not mind at all.

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Hi mate,

The Sweep Picking lesson is sounding very good! I think that's it's ok to work on the next part at 90 and record a video. Then you can connect the whole thing and see what happens. Your technique is good, just try to make the right hand movement smaller to be able to play at faster tempos in the future.

Regarding the improvisation, the rhythm is not wrong, but it's not completely tight. These are some moments that I've marked: 00:10, 00:22, 00:38, 00:56. Listen to them carefully and try to notice what I mean. You need to identify the time figures that you are wanting to play and practice them tight over the backing.

I think that this lesson could be really helpful:

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 3 2018, 08:01 PM) *
Hi mate,

The Sweep Picking lesson is sounding very good! I think that's it's ok to work on the next part at 90 and record a video. Then you can connect the whole thing and see what happens. Your technique is good, just try to make the right hand movement smaller to be able to play at faster tempos in the future.


Hello Gabby

Hope you're enjoying your holiday and wish you a great new year. biggrin.gif

I've been working to play the third part of the sweep lesson at 90% speed

Please check and let me know what you think

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Hi Anese! Great job here!

Everything sounds clean and clear in your take, and there are no technique or movement issues to comment. Everything is going well. You just need more days of practice and you'll master this one at normal tempo.

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Hello Gabby

How are you mate? been a while since last time i posted an update, i]ve been trying so hard to master this one.
here's my first full take in the original tempo.. let me know what you think.


playing three minutes continuously while trying main the tempo and different bend pitches was another challenge to me.

it feels great that i came close to this level anyway.

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Hi Anese! Great to find news from you mate!

I can see that you’ve been working hard on this one. You can play the whole thing clean and without serious issues. I only notice some hand sync problems in the alternate picking section, and some cleanness and timing issues in the last licks.

I also think that your guitar has tuning issues when reaching the higher frets.:: maybe old strings?

Other than that, this is going well!

One tip that I’d like to give you is to check out some Yngwie or Jason Becker sweep picking videos to see how they do some kind of circular right hand movement when sweeping the strings. One of my first guitar teachers taught me this and it helped a lot to make sweep picking sound smoother.


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Hello Gabby
How are you?
Thanks for your feedback,

I tried to work on most of the points you mentioned specially on the last two licks, and the alternative picking section.

Regarding the tuning issues on the hight frets
QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 25 2019, 07:42 AM) *
I also think that your guitar has tuning issues when reaching the higher frets.:: maybe old strings?

I think it's because the high frets on my guitar aren't as weary as the lower frets since I never played on those frets before, and i think that might cause some tuning/intonation issues. i'm not sure about that.
however i tuned again before i recorded this take and I noticed some high notes are a bit sharp but not to the point that make it musically unbearable.

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 25 2019, 07:42 AM) *
One tip that I’d like to give you is to check out some Yngwie or Jason Becker sweep picking videos to see how they do some kind of circular right hand movement when sweeping the strings. One of my first guitar teachers taught me this and it helped a lot to make sweep picking sound smoother.


I couldn't really find some videos that show this kind of technique with clear details. but i tried to work on that on my own.

Here's another take i recorded yesterday



Let me know if that was good enough for REC room.

Thanks buddy, I really appreciate what your doing for me. cool.gif



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Hi Anese!

Congrats on your great job here!

I notice improvements regarding any of the elements that I marked. It’s nice to see that you are starting to do the right hand circular movement that I suggested. It will become more natural with some more time. It’s important to try to make the overall movement smoother and smaller.

I don’t remember any video that explains the circular movement but it can be seen in any Yngwie’s video played at slower speed.

Regarding the pitch issues, it sounds better however I recommend you to send it to a luthier to set it well. It’s very important for you ear training and overall practice to fix it.

This one surely passes at REC. It’s always good to share it there to receive feedback from different instructors.

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Thanks Gabby

I'll post this in the REC room. I will definitely some good feed back that might help me polish the whole thing in the future.

Let's see how that goes in general then I will let you know what i'm planning to work on next.

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QUOTE (Anese @ May 27 2019, 10:26 PM) *
Thanks Gabby

I'll post this in the REC room. I will definitely some good feed back that might help me polish the whole thing in the future.

Let's see how that goes in general then I will let you know what i'm planning to work on next.

Thanks



Great! smile.gif


As I'm checking your video again at the REC section, I would like to suggest something else.

I notice that your left hand fingers tend to separate too much from the freboard. You can check it for example at 02:34. This is not affecting your playing at this tempo but it can be a problem for faster licks. It's safe to get used to keep the fingers the closer possible to the fretboard, even when they are not pressing (or going to press) a fret.






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