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Posted by: anders3604 Sep 4 2009, 08:17 AM

Hello!

I´m trying to figure out witch guitar to by.
I have a Jackson DK2M DINKY witch I really like.

I mostely play metal riffs and I like the sound of active EMG 81 85 pickups so I decided that the guitar should be equiped with those.

I never use the whammy bar so I don´t want that.

So, a metal guitar with EMG pickups and non whammy bar.

Any suggestions?

Well the price range is about 1k-1 1/2k usd

Regards
Anders
Sweden

Posted by: audiopaal Sep 4 2009, 08:31 AM

Take a look at some ESP Eclipse II models, very nice guitars

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 4 2009, 11:13 AM

Zakk Wylde Signature Les Paul.
Schecter Blackjack ATX C-1. (Has Seymour Duncan Blackout Active pickups instead of EMG's.)
Dean Deciever.

Posted by: dark_dude Sep 4 2009, 12:51 PM

QUOTE (audiopaal @ Sep 4 2009, 08:31 AM)

Take a look at some ESP Eclipse II models, very nice guitars

Save some cash and get the LTD EC-1000. Has EMGs and it's a killer. Could use the saved cash on something else.

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_deluxe-ec.html

EDIT: 81, 60 though.

Posted by: skennington Sep 4 2009, 01:45 PM

Since you like your Jackson and don't prefer a floating trem, take a look at the SLSMG...

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jackson-SLSMG-Super-Lightweight-Soloist-Electric-Guitar?sku=520316&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=345584179

It's a neck-thru soloist model with the 81-85 combo.

Posted by: vampire18 Sep 4 2009, 02:08 PM

schecter c-1 hellraiser
has everything you described

Posted by: ZakkWylde Sep 4 2009, 02:40 PM

Any specific guitar body shape?

There are hundreds of guitars to match you description...

-The hellraiser series by Schecter
-Esp ltd makes just about any shape with EMGs
-Epiphone Prophecy series area agreat bang for the buck
-The already mentioned Jackson SLSMG (Trond Volds main guitar)
-Ibanez Matt Blachand signature RGA
-Fender Jim Root Tele or Strat signature

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 4 2009, 03:01 PM

I agree with Paal, ESP Eclipse guitars with EMGs are awesome, definitely check them out.

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_custom.html

Posted by: Praetorian Sep 5 2009, 01:08 AM

As stated before...I would check out either the Schecter C-1 Hellraiser (quite a bit less than you have to spend), but would strongly recommend trying the Jackson SLSMG - See Trond Vold's videos, he uses a beautiful red one on many lessons.

Posted by: audiopaal Sep 5 2009, 02:03 AM

QUOTE (Praetorian @ Sep 5 2009, 02:08 AM)

As stated before...I would check out either the Schecter C-1 Hellraiser (quite a bit less than you have to spend), but would strongly recommend trying the Jackson SLSMG - See Trond Vold's videos, he uses a beautiful red one on many lessons.

I also think Trond could vouch for the ESP as well, as he enjoyed mine quite a bit

Posted by: iamblackmo Sep 5 2009, 03:42 AM

QUOTE (audiopaal @ Sep 4 2009, 09:03 PM)

I also think Trond could vouch for the ESP as well, as he enjoyed mine quite a bit

Yea, I would go ESP but my boy has the Schecter Hellraiser. The make them without a floyd rose but this is one comfortable emg packing one-piece guitar. It is relatively inexpensive but I would rather spend a bit extra on an ESP because I think to get the same quality Schecter would require buying an American one, and they are not cheap.

Posted by: anders3604 Sep 5 2009, 10:00 AM

Hello!

Thank you for all the answers.

I´ve been thinking of a ESP guitar or the Jackson SLSMG.

Iwas a bit stupid to give my price range in usd since I live in Sweden and guitars are so much more expensive here.
For example.

ESP Eclipse II Musicians friend. 1500$
Thomann )The cheapest store in Europe) 2300$

Are the ESP LTD models any good or should I save to a real ESP.

I guess I´m going to a music store today to try out some of the models you mentioned

Thank you guys.

Posted by: Koopid Sep 5 2009, 10:42 AM

I chose the "real" ESP Eclipse after trying both, it just felt better to play on, soundwise I couldnt tell you

AND, buy the Eclipse at musikbörsen or Jam. They are selling it for 15k SEK now (marked down from 20k). This way you got a swedish retailer if you have problems and the price is cheaper than Thomann right now..

EDIT: And.. I happen to own both the Jackson SLSMG and the Eclipse and I love both of them The Eclipse is my main guitar because I think it looks better than the Jackson but they are both superb guitars.

Posted by: anders3604 Sep 5 2009, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Koopid @ Sep 5 2009, 11:42 AM)

I chose the "real" ESP Eclipse after trying both, it just felt better to play on, soundwise I couldnt tell you

AND, buy the Eclipse at musikbörsen or Jam. They are selling it for 15k SEK now (marked down from 20k). This way you got a swedish retailer if you have problems and the price is cheaper than Thomann right now..

EDIT: And.. I happen to own both the Jackson SLSMG and the Eclipse and I love both of them

The Eclipse is my main guitar because I think it looks better than the Jackson but they are both superb guitars.

Oh, that was a really good deal.

I think that I will eather by a ESP or the Jackson guitar but I don´t know which one.

I guess that the ESP neck is thicker?

And also, what are the difference in sound between the guitars?
I imagine that the ESP should be a deeper sound and the Jackson a more screaming sound but maybe that´s just my imagination

.

Posted by: Koopid Sep 5 2009, 04:38 PM

QUOTE (anders3604 @ Sep 5 2009, 01:00 PM)

Oh, that was a really good deal.

I think that I will eather by a ESP or the Jackson guitar but I don´t know which one.

I guess that the ESP neck is thicker?

And also, what are the difference in sound between the guitars?
I imagine that the ESP should be a deeper sound and the Jackson a more screaming sound but maybe that´s just my imagination

.

The neck on the ESP is a bit thicker yeah, but the Jacksons is a bit wider, or atleast it feels that way to me

The sound on the ESP feels a bit deeper and "rounder" in my ears but I'm no expert.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 5 2009, 10:50 PM

Just a quick update, I tried LTD Deluxe today in the store with EMG pickups, it was this guitar:

M-1000 LTD Deluxe,

very fine piece, good playability.

specs:
M-1000

* Set-Thru
* 25.5” Scale
* Alder Body
* Maple Neck
* Rosewood Fingerboard
* Locking Nut
* 43mm Neck Width
* Extra Thin U Neck Contour
* 24 XJ Frets
* Black Nickel Hardware
* Grover Tuners
* Floyd Rose 1000 Series Bridge
* EMG 81 ( / 81 (N) Active p.u.
* Finish: SW

Posted by: anders3604 Sep 6 2009, 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 5 2009, 11:50 PM)

Just a quick update, I tried LTD Deluxe today in the store with EMG pickups, it was this guitar:

M-1000 LTD Deluxe,

very fine piece, good playability.

specs:
M-1000

* Set-Thru
* 25.5” Scale
* Alder Body
* Maple Neck
* Rosewood Fingerboard
* Locking Nut
* 43mm Neck Width
* Extra Thin U Neck Contour
* 24 XJ Frets
* Black Nickel Hardware
* Grover Tuners
* Floyd Rose 1000 Series Bridge
* EMG 81 (

/ 81 (N) Active p.u.
* Finish: SW

Thats a real beauty, love the fret inlays.
To bad it has a Floyd Rose.
Maybe I can ask you a question. I much does the type of wood in the body do?

I´ve heard lot of people saying that it should be mahogny. But very many do also say that with the EMG pickups it doesn´t really matter?

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 7 2009, 11:32 AM

Just saw this in case you're interested??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-RG-with-EMG-81-85_W0QQitemZ110432200390QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item19b645a6c6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
With a Buy it Now for £275, seems like quite a good deal for the money!!!

Posted by: anders3604 Sep 7 2009, 12:16 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 7 2009, 12:32 PM)