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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 3 2008, 08:59 AM

Hello there,

I have gotten lots of worried pm:s about possible copyright infringement regarding Hisham's two last lessons. Thanks a lot for your commitment! biggrin.gif Here is a little clarification.


What we have lisences for:


The instructor may record their own version of a famous song.

What is not allowed.

The instructors may NOT tab a famous song. Not even their own interpretation of the song may be tabbed.

The instructor may NOT use someone else's recording.

As for Hisham's latest lesson, he only tabs his own harmonies of the famous Evanescence song (this is my understanding) - which is ok.

Last note: If the composer of the song died over 70 years ago - it is no longer is copyrighted. That is why we can cover famous classical songs in our acoustic lessons.

Posted by: mattacuk Jan 3 2008, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the info Kris!! Im guessing we could potentially have a 4 seasons Lesson then! biggrin.gif (Hint hint wink.gif anyone?)

Posted by: Vinod Jan 3 2008, 11:18 AM

Vivaldi? blink.gif

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 3 2008, 11:43 AM

Well copyright violation aside, i think i prefer to click on a new lesson and find some original material. At the moments it is possible to see lots of similarities in the melodies created over these "famous" songs, infact almost half of each of the 2 lessons sound almost identical to me.

Maybe this is a preference that only i have...

However i'm still quite confused as to why we have suddenly gone down the road of not using original material?

It just doesnt feel much like a GMC lesson when i open up a "famous" lesson.

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 3 2008, 10:12 AM) *
Im guessing we could potentially have a 4 seasons Lesson then! biggrin.gif


That would rule- i looooove the 4 seasons wub.gif

QUOTE (Vinod @ Jan 3 2008, 10:18 AM) *
Vivaldi? blink.gif


Yes please wink.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Vinod Jan 3 2008, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jan 3 2008, 04:43 PM) *
Yes please wink.gif tongue.gif


I think One of Our Electric guitar expert will do that.

Now I am planning a real lesson after completeing the Asturias.

Here the piano piece
Flight of BumbleBee By Nicolai Rimsky Korsakov.
 Bumble_bee.wav ( 669.94K ) : 153


It will burn your right hand dry.gif

I have an Exam this month and will be meeting you in Next month with Video lesssons.
smile.gif

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 3 2008, 12:15 PM

QUOTE (Vinod @ Jan 3 2008, 11:10 AM) *
Flight of BumbleBee By Nicolai Rimsky Korsakov.


Yes!!!! Thanks Vinod thats gonna rule.

Posted by: mattacuk Jan 3 2008, 12:39 PM

QUOTE (Vinod @ Jan 3 2008, 10:18 AM) *
Vivaldi? blink.gif


yes I love Vivaldi! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jan 3 2008, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 3 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Thanks for the info Kris!! Im guessing we could potentially have a 4 seasons Lesson then! biggrin.gif (Hint hint wink.gif anyone?)


yeah, I also love Vivaldi !!! his music is amazing wink.gif
Have you listened the "Metamorphosys of the 4 seasons" by Uli Jon Roth ??? it's really good, but I prefer the original with orquestra, I love violins smile.gif

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec Jan 3 2008, 03:54 PM

CHILDREN OF BODOM - Alexi's way to do the four seasons:-P Or not Matta?

Posted by: Xranthoius Jan 3 2008, 06:46 PM

Okay, is it possible to play a lesson, record it, and put it on myspace or something?

Posted by: Owen Jan 3 2008, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jan 3 2008, 02:43 AM) *
Well copyright violation aside, i think i prefer to click on a new lesson and find some original material. At the moments it is possible to see lots of similarities in the melodies created over these "famous" songs, infact almost half of each of the 2 lessons sound almost identical to me.

Maybe this is a preference that only i have...


I totally agree.

If I wanted to play "famous" songs I'd get a tab of Ultimate Guitar and learn the original.

Posted by: Constie Jan 3 2008, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 3 2008, 06:50 PM) *
I totally agree.

If I wanted to play "famous" songs I'd get a tab of Ultimate Guitar and learn the original.

You two pointed it out!

Posted by: Tomy Jeon Jan 3 2008, 08:13 PM

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 3 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Thanks for the info Kris!! Im guessing we could potentially have a 4 seasons Lesson then! biggrin.gif (Hint hint wink.gif anyone?)


Yeah, a 40 minute guitar lesson would be cool! biggrin.gif

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jan 3 2008, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 3 2008, 04:12 AM) *
Thanks for the info Kris!! Im guessing we could potentially have a 4 seasons Lesson then! biggrin.gif (Hint hint wink.gif anyone?)



man a lesson on that would be amazing!!

Posted by: mattacuk Jan 3 2008, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Jan 3 2008, 07:45 PM) *
man a lesson on that would be amazing!!


Yeah Ive seen many eletric guitarist play the 4 seasons and it always stirs my soul ! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Jan 3 2008, 02:22 PM) *
yeah, I also love Vivaldi !!! his music is amazing wink.gif
Have you listened the "Metamorphosys of the 4 seasons" by Uli Jon Roth ??? it's really good, but I prefer the original with orquestra, I love violins smile.gif


I havent Juan but thanks for the mention I will look that up now ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: shellshock1911 Jan 4 2008, 12:27 AM

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 3 2008, 08:49 PM) *
Yeah Ive seen many eletric guitarist play the 4 seasons and it always stirs my soul ! biggrin.gif
I havent Juan but thanks for the mention I will look that up now ! biggrin.gif


Everyone always plays the 4th movement of Summer because it is "heavy" and "shreddy," however I think they are all awesome. So many cool licks in Spring especially, infact classical music is a pretty good place to get licks from because you can bet that only a few other people are going to try the same thing. I haven't heard the entire Winter or Autumn yet, just like the first five minutes of both, both really cool so far though. I got so much music for Christmas it is ridiculous I can't listen to it all. Some of the stuff I got is

Tony MacAlpine
Vinnie Moore
Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Schubert
Paganini
Haydn
Mozart
Beethoven
Vivaldi
Dream Theater
Symphony X
Shawn Lane
Opeth
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Cacophony

EDIT: I think something like Paganini Caprices would be more appropriate for GMC than Four Seasons though, since Paganini is like solo and Four Seasons is like full orchestra. I learned some of Spring on my guitar and too be honest it sounds much better with the legato sound of a violin. For Paganini maybe a lesson on the first minute of Capricci 20th would be good, it is really beautiful and simple.

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 4 2008, 12:33 AM

QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 3 2008, 05:50 PM) *
I totally agree.

If I wanted to play "famous" songs I'd get a tab of Ultimate Guitar and learn the original.


My thoughts exactly.

QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 3 2008, 05:54 PM) *
You two pointed it out!


Glad we're not on our own their then wink.gif .

I wouldn't mind being given a different point of view as to how these "famous" lessons work- am i seeing it from one side only? What do you others think? What are the benefits of these lessons over original material? Certainly caused a bit of a stir in the forum and in lessons comments thats for sure....

Posted by: Owen Jan 4 2008, 12:45 AM

QUOTE (Vinod @ Jan 3 2008, 03:10 AM) *
I think One of Our Electric guitar expert will do that.

Now I am planning a real lesson after completeing the Asturias.

Here the piano piece
Flight of BumbleBee By Nicolai Rimsky Korsakov.
 Bumble_bee.wav ( 669.94K ) : 153


It will burn your right hand dry.gif

I have an Exam this month and will be meeting you in Next month with Video lesssons.
smile.gif


Oh, that'll be fun! That song is nuts! tongue.gif

My brother got a Korsakov Cd for Christmas and its actually really catchy, when you listen to it twice over you realise how much of it has sunk into your mind, its really quite amazing! smile.gif

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jan 3 2008, 03:33 PM) *
My thoughts exactly.
Glad we're not on our own their then wink.gif .

I wouldn't mind being given a different point of view as to how these "famous" lessons work- am i seeing it from one side only? What do you others think? What are the benefits of these lessons over original material? Certainly caused a bit of a stir in the forum and in lessons comments thats for sure....


I cant exactly see how they could be taylored for GMC's needs like a normal lesson could, in essense it conforms rigidly to the core of a particular song which means that an array of ideas and styles is harder to get across in such a shortened period of time - full songs being 3 minutes approx and lessons only being about 1 minute for the full composition.

Posted by: Freebird Jan 4 2008, 12:58 AM

I play the Flight of The Bumblebee as a picking exercise!! Chromatic scale + 200 bpm blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif nightmare, but someday i'll get it biggrin.gif slowly slowly

And about the topic, I agree with DeepRoots... I prefer an original lesson than a derived one smile.gif But lessons derived from classical music would be awesome, I'm sure!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 4 2008, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (Xranthoius @ Jan 3 2008, 06:46 PM) *
Okay, is it possible to play a lesson, record it, and put it on myspace or something?


Yes absolutely - in fact that would be awesome! biggrin.gif

Posted by: mattacuk Jan 4 2008, 09:38 AM

QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Jan 3 2008, 11:27 PM) *
Everyone always plays the 4th movement of Summer because it is "heavy" and "shreddy," however I think they are all awesome. So many cool licks in Spring especially, infact classical music is a pretty good place to get licks from because you can bet that only a few other people are going to try the same thing. I haven't heard the entire Winter or Autumn yet, just like the first five minutes of both, both really cool so far though. I got so much music for Christmas it is ridiculous I can't listen to it all. Some of the stuff I got is

Tony MacAlpine
Vinnie Moore
Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Schubert
Paganini
Haydn
Mozart
Beethoven
Vivaldi
Dream Theater
Symphony X
Shawn Lane
Opeth
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Cacophony

EDIT: I think something like Paganini Caprices would be more appropriate for GMC than Four Seasons though, since Paganini is like solo and Four Seasons is like full orchestra. I learned some of Spring on my guitar and too be honest it sounds much better with the legato sound of a violin. For Paganini maybe a lesson on the first minute of Capricci 20th would be good, it is really beautiful and simple.


This is an inredible informative post - thankyou ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 4 2008, 09:39 AM

QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 3 2008, 11:45 PM) *
I cant exactly see how they could be taylored for GMC's needs like a normal lesson could, in essense it conforms rigidly to the core of a particular song which means that an array of ideas and styles is harder to get across in such a shortened period of time - full songs being 3 minutes approx and lessons only being about 1 minute for the full composition.


good point there Owen

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