REC & video edits, What is allowed? Should we change the rules? |
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REC & video edits, What is allowed? Should we change the rules? |
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Mar 30 2016, 08:17 AM |
Personally, if I was an examiner purely wanting to judge playing I wouldn't want the distraction of multiple angles, I would want to be able to watch the student play from one angle so I could focus 100% on the performance. It's not like multiple angles will get a higher grade.
I also agree that it could encourage "cheating" and I don't for one minute think Monica or any of the current REC stalwarts would cheat but, if the path is there someone will take it some day. We know they are only fooling themselves but it's not right. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 30 2016, 10:38 AM |
This is a really good point Monica brings up.
personally, I think REC takes should be one camera angle which shows both hands. Unless the main lesson has cuts then that would be okay, for example something like Guido's repeating lesson . other angles could be done for someones YT page but the one angle version for REC IMO. -------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Mar 30 2016, 03:34 PM |
I see where you'e coming from Brian but, I think the worry is that some will cheat, as I said, I don't think the current wave of REC posters like, you Monica et al would do that, I know I certainly wouldn't.
I also think the take should at least be one single audio take even if you do use different camera angles but it's harder for judges to be sure it is one take when the video is jumping from angle to angle. The idea of REC, or how I see it, is purely to judge your playing skills, not how well you can edit the best pieces of a few takes to make one good one, this is a different skill. I know that we all, usually due to REC button syndrome, do more than one take for REC but, the best one shows that we can actually play the piece from start to end at a respectable level. I also don't think it would be fair if it is part of the grading system, some people don't have the equipment and/or the time to produce a multi angle video.Maybe we need a new thread whereby you create your single take, single angle single audio video for REC and then spend however much time you wish to work on a multi angle one to be critiqued. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 30 2016, 04:09 PM |
I kind of agree with both of you about not caring if people cheat, I don't care if they do but it still devalues the REC system.
I still think after all that you have both said about live vs studio, that the REC take is a live take of your ability to play a piece accurately, that is where the skill lies, not in splicing and overdubbing. I guess we will have to agree to disagree Brian, I don't understand how you can want to do multi angle video when you say that the recording process takes too long as it is. That's another reason for one angle one audio. I'm really starting to think that along with >>>THIS<<< thread there should be a "recording/mixing/videoing thread for those that want their videos critiqued for the production rather than just playing ability. Great discussion, thanks Monica -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 30 2016, 04:12 PM |
I think I somehow was in a hurry writing my last reply. I agree that REC is probably more live than not, so in some way I agree it maybe should be a "live"-take.
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Apr 1 2016, 10:56 PM |
Agree. Speaking in terms of film I suppose it's bit like multiple takes in a scene. However in a casting call / audition for an actor it has to be live in order to asses them. While there is no irony in how later in a film production, the chosen actor might be required to do multiple takes due to someone else's, or their own execution of a particular scene. Perhaps casting calls / auditions for film could sort of be seen as the equivalent to REC takes / sitting a graded music exam. Yes I agree 100% it's like an audition This post has been edited by Phil66: Apr 2 2016, 03:00 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Apr 2 2016, 01:37 PM
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Cheers both!
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