Natural Ability Or Training Options

[Owen]

Well I wanted to know your opinion on what make's a good voice, is it the time and effort put into training your voice and honing it to perfection or are some people more naturally gifted with good voices?

I realise that guitar is more something you can train to perfection - like Kris says no natural talent required, but vocally you only have what you are given originally.

So basically, do you think great singers are born with a natural ability or work towards good voices? Or perhaps a bit of both?

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This post has been edited by Owen: Nov 7 2007, 06:35 AM

[Saoirse O'Shea]

it will be extremely difficult for you to try and replicate someone elses sound that isn't in your natural style. Not only that, but it's part of what will make you unique and stand out as an artist.

Question then for anyone - to what extent can a vocal harmoniser like Antares Autotune 'fill' in the gap between ability and my bumbling? That's both in terms of adding a bit of 'sparkle', if you see what I mean, and attempting the (probably) impossible of correcting my bad singing?

I'm particularly interested as it seems to me that an awful lot of commercial 'hit' records have Antares or something similar processing the vocals now a days. (And you can spot them easily .) Studio wise I'm guilty, I use Melodyne and that can correct an awful lot of issues - not just with singing but instruments generally.

When we talk about 'feel' (and I do agree with the idea) studio musicians however often aren't really expected to be 'individual' but to be able to play/sing technically correctly - if you see what I mean - in the pocket, on pitch, etc and pretty much homogenised. But if they can't - Antares, Melodyne fill the gap...

Perhaps I'm being overly provocative but for me the question might be expanded to 'Natural ability, training, or studio processing'? Take a look at 'X Factor' - I'll bet that the winner will rely heavily on the studio .

Cheers,
Tony

ps Apologies Luciana and all who can sing, you do have a gift and good singers are a joy to work with in the studio.

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[Luciana Segovia]

Question then for anyone - to what extent can a vocal harmoniser like Antares Autotune 'fill' in the gap between ability and my bumbling? That's both in terms of adding a bit of 'sparkle', if you see what I mean, and attempting the (probably) impossible of correcting my bad singing?

I'm particularly interested as it seems to me that an awful lot of commercial 'hit' records have Antares or something similar processing the vocals now a days. (And you can spot them easily .) Studio wise I'm guilty, I use Melodyne and that can correct an awful lot of issues - not just with singing but instruments generally.

When we talk about 'feel' (and I do agree with the idea) studio musicians however often aren't really expected to be 'individual' but to be able to play/sing technically correctly - if you see what I mean - in the pocket, on pitch, etc and pretty much homogenised. But if they can't - Antares, Melodyne fill the gap...

Perhaps I'm being overly provocative but for me the question might be expanded to 'Natural ability, training, or studio processing'? Take a look at 'X Factor' - I'll bet that the winner will rely heavily on the studio .

Cheers,
Tony

ps Apologies Luciana and all who can sing, you do have a gift and good singers are a joy to work with in the studio.

Wow! this is a big issue: Antares

Well it's true.. there's a lot of programs who process the voice turning a simple person in a good singer ...but Aparently!
I hear about that program in studios but.. what happen in live?. Can this simple person be a good singer in live?...

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This post has been edited by Luciana: Feb 26 2008, 03:41 PM