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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 5 2015, 03:45 PM

Hello guys! Welcome to my new workout based on timing available for everybody at GMC that want to master this fundamental element of music.

During my more than 8 years working at GMC I noted that timing is one of the main problems that beginner/intermediate students have and most of them don't know how to work on it. In the last months, we started to experiment with some very simple assignments and we discovered how important is to start with really simple stuff before trying to adjust timing on licks and improvisations.

That's why I decided to create this thread in which I will give weekly assignments that should be worked every day during 7 days.

How to practice on these assignments?

Well, as it happens with my other workouts. These are designed to be combined with your current guitar routine. You don't have to switch to this workout and work only on this. It's ok if you practice around 20/30 minutes every day. It's even more helpful if you practice 2 blocks of 20 minutes, maybe one in the morning and another one before you go to sleep.

Some tips to master timing:

- Tap with your foot: Follow the beat with your foot while playing. It's a great trick to feel the groove inside. With practice you won't have to think on timing and groove, you will just have to feel it.
- Move your head and body: Another trick to feel the groove. Try it!
- Before you start the practice, turn off the lights, close your eyes and listen to the backing. Feel the groove, imagine youself playing over it, imagine yourself playing the assignment, visualize your guitar, your fingers and listen to the notes sounding totally tight over the backing.


ASSIGNMENT I

On this first assignment you have to play a single note that can be one from the scale, preferably the root, even with the beat. As this is a workout for beginners and intermediates, I will suggest two different figures:

Beginners (level 1 to 3 in GMC lessons): Play 4th notes over the backing.
Intermediate (level 3 to 5 in GMC lessons): Play 8th notes over the backing.

Backing track in A:  AC_DC_Backing_80.mp3 ( 2.38MB ) : 348


DEADLINE: May 12th

Who is in?

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[b]Some frequently asked questions:[/b]

1. Who can join? Everybody!
2. Do I have to submit audio or video? If possible to let me check your progress! We can also meet at the chat-room and you show me how you play this using your webcam.
3. Is it only for beginners? No! It's for beginner and intermediate players. Even if you think that you are a master of timing, give these exercises a chance and maybe you will be surprised.
4. How much does this workout cost? When you become a successful guitar player and come to play to my country, I want free tickets!
5. Why timing is important? Are you serious????



PS: IF YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS WORKOUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW AT THIS THREAD AND THEN WE WILL ARRANGE HOW I CHECK YOUR PROGRESS.



ASSIGNMENT II: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54317&view=findpost&p=711672

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 6 2015, 05:58 AM

Hey guys, don't be shy and join this one! biggrin.gif Here you can check the amazing results that we are having with some students thanks to this workout:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53742&st=0&start=0
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53091&st=180&start=180



Posted by: Phil66 May 6 2015, 04:04 PM

Hey Gab,

I'm in. Don't know how I'm going to fit everything in though laugh.gif

Ear training, bending to pitch, new solo, Fu Manchu, collabs and now timing blink.gif

Please excuse my ignorance but what exactly are 4th notes? Is it four notes per bar or four notes per beat? Sorry for not knowing this basic information. unsure.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 6 2015, 05:32 PM

Hi Phil! Thanks for this fantastic question since I think that even the absolute beginner students will now exactly what they have to do on assignment 1.


Quarter notes and eight notes are different note values (Check what note values means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value). This is how each of them look on the score:



Here you can open the same on guitar pro to listen how they sound:  Quarter___Eight_notes.gp5 ( 1.55K ) : 174


Finally, here you have two examples over the backing track submitted on the assignment to show exactly what you should play, depending on your level.

Quarter notes:  Example_quarter_notes.mp3 ( 445.91K ) : 217


Eight notes:  Example_eight_notes.mp3 ( 445.91K ) : 197



Please let me know if this is clear now. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 6 2015, 10:14 PM

Thanks Gab,

I think I get it.

4th notes = 1 2 3 4???
8th notes = 1&2&3&4????

Am I correct?

Maybe for beginners it would be good to record 4th and 8th notes with just a metronome for backing.

Thank you for your dedication in helping us Gab. I'm sure I speak for everyone in saying we appreciate it wink.gif

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 7 2015, 03:33 PM

Hi Phil, the idea is that less advanced GMCers play 4th notes over the backing while more advanced try 8th notes. This is not an easy task, you'll notice just by playing, recording and then checking what you've played so even if you don't consider a totally beginner, it's ok to start trying with 4th notes.

I didn't get this:

4th notes = 1 2 3 4???
8th notes = 1&2&3&4????

Posted by: Phil66 May 7 2015, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 7 2015, 03:33 PM) *
Hi Phil, the idea is that less advanced GMCers play 4th notes over the backing while more advanced try 8th notes. This is not an easy task, you'll notice just by playing, recording and then checking what you've played so even if you don't consider a totally beginner, it's ok to start trying with 4th notes.

I didn't get this:

4th notes = 1 2 3 4???
8th notes = 1&2&3&4????


Thanks Gab and sorry for the confusion.

I am going to play 4th notes, and when i said about total beginners I meant it may be easier for them if you recorded the 4th notes with a metronome as backing so they can hear it more easily.

When I put this:

4th notes = 1 2 3 4???
8th notes = 1&2&3&4????

I meant, are 4th notes what the drummer counts when starting a song, "one, two, one two three four"; (1 2 3 4) and are the 8th notes the same (1 2 3 4) but playing the offbeat also like , "one and two and three and four"?

I hope this makes sense.


Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 8 2015, 03:35 PM

Ah! now I got it, yes, you're right!

About listening to how 4th and 8ve notes sound, I shared a guitar pro file with both so I think that beginners can check it from there. If anybody needs more help with this first workout, please ask me.


I wonder who is working on these first assignment.... smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 8 2015, 03:38 PM

I will be working on them tomorrow night along with everything else. Got a lot of catching up to do wink.gif


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 8 2015, 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 8 2015, 11:38 AM) *
I will be working on them tomorrow night along with everything else. Got a lot of catching up to do wink.gif



hehe great. wink.gif

Posted by: Daeron May 8 2015, 05:00 PM

I'm in, Gabriel. I want to continue the work in timing, so that seems perfect to me !

Should I post an audiotrack with me playing in the backing track ? The same note all the time ?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 9 2015, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ May 8 2015, 01:00 PM) *
I'm in, Gabriel. I want to continue the work in timing, so that seems perfect to me !

Should I post an audiotrack with me playing in the backing track ? The same note all the time ?



Great Daeron! Yes! That's what you have to do if you want me to check your status and progress.

Posted by: Daeron May 9 2015, 09:53 PM

Hello Gabriel


Here is my take :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timing-exercise-1

Thank you !

Posted by: Chris S. May 10 2015, 12:11 PM

You know from my REC takes that my timing needs work tongue.gif

Count me in - should have a recording in a day or two.

Gab, is it alright if I do the 8th notes like the lesson requires and then do a separate recording for triplets? You know from the Neoclassical & Epic Metal Rhythm REC takes I did that the triplets give me a bit of a fight dry.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 10 2015, 08:01 PM

Hello Gab,

I've posted my take in my thread wink.gif and also here.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-timing-quarter-notes

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-timing-eighth-notes

It was pretty hard I thought as the rhythm seems to be offbeat, also I only seem to be able to fit in 3 notes per bar but they don't seem to fit perfectly and sometime land on the beginning of the bar and sometimes just before (accord to my DAW anyway). I put the example in and that seems the same. Any ideas? unsure.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 10 2015, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ May 9 2015, 05:53 PM) *
Hello Gabriel

Here is my take :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timing-exercise-1

Thank you !



Hi Daeron, good job with this one! From what I can hear on this audio, it seems that you are playing 4th notes even with the beat. Could you please re-record this one or remix it with your guitar louder? (or at least have it in mind for the next assignment)

How did you feel this exercise? how many time have you practiced?




QUOTE (Chris S. @ May 10 2015, 08:11 AM) *
You know from my REC takes that my timing needs work tongue.gif

Count me in - should have a recording in a day or two.

Gab, is it alright if I do the 8th notes like the lesson requires and then do a separate recording for triplets? You know from the Neoclassical & Epic Metal Rhythm REC takes I did that the triplets give me a bit of a fight dry.gif



Hi Chris, this sounds great! Yes, you can also work on triplets for this one. I was thinking on a future assignment based on triplets, but as I want this workout useful for students at different level, I'll incorporate more note values on the same assignment for the next ones.

So I'll expect two takes from you in 2 days: 8th notes, and 8th notes triplets.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 10 2015, 04:01 PM) *
Hello Gab,

I've posted my take in my thread wink.gif

It was pretty hard I thought as the rhythm seems to be offbeat, also I only seem to be able to fit in 3 notes per bar but they don't seem to fit perfectly and sometime land on the beginning of the bar and sometimes just before (accord to my DAW anyway). I put the example in and that seems the same. Any ideas? unsure.gif

Cheers


Hi Phil, I just checked your takes and I can say that you are doing a good job with these ones. It's also a good decision to work on both 4th an 8th notes since you have similar issues on both rhythms, and I could say that I've found a bit more problems with 4th notes. You tend to play a bit before the beat so put your focus on going tighter, and at first on playing the notes a bit after you'd do it. Remember to use your foot to tap tempo.

As I've already said, 8th notes are better, but there is still room to make it sound more regular and precise.

Please keep on practicing for 3 days and share two new takes. If you want to add 8th notes triplets, go for them too.

Posted by: Phil66 May 10 2015, 08:48 PM

Thanks Gab,

It's not the easiest backing track to practice with laugh.gif Lot os distraction with the rhythm but it's all good.

I can't work out how 8th note triplets would go, I've just tried but got totally confused rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 10 2015, 09:03 PM

hehehe, yeah, that's one of the advantages of this kind of workout, we are working over REAL MUSIC. smile.gif

Don't worry about triplets now, we'll work on it later.

Posted by: Daeron May 10 2015, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 10 2015, 07:40 PM) *
Hi Daeron, good job with this one! From what I can hear on this audio, it seems that you are playing 4th notes even with the beat. Could you please re-record this one or remix it with your guitar louder? (or at least have it in mind for the next assignment)

How did you feel this exercise? how many time have you practiced?


Hi Gabriel

Oh, earing at Phil's take I just noticed that the backing track I downloaded was incomplete. That's why it was stopped this way.
I'll make another take with the complete backing track and the guitar louder.

I didn't practiced it much but I feeled it was quite easy. Just about twenty minutes for the recording !

Edit : I made two new records with the complete backing track.

1st one on 4th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise1-take2

2nd one on 8th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise1-take3

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 11 2015, 04:16 PM

Good job Daeron! Your playing sound tight most of the time, there some little moments when you are not totally tight, and maybe you can pay more attention to go even tighter when you play this, mostly when the song starts and when the parts changes, but your timing is very good. You are now ready for the next assignment. Congrats!


Posted by: Daeron May 11 2015, 06:01 PM

Thank you, Gabriel. I'll continue working on timing, of course, and I'll wait for the next assignment ! smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 11 2015, 07:25 PM

I think I've worked out part of my timing issue. It may be a tricky one to fix though. Is hard to explain but I'll try.

My picking hand and foot/head mimic each other. Now this may sound good in theory but, if you think about it, when my for his the floor my pick should hit the string but in my case, the downward movement of my hand stops when my foot hits the floor and starts rising exactly with my foot. Now if you think about that, it means that the string has been hit before my foot has hit the floor. It's as though there is a solid rod connecting my foot and hand and the string sits somewhere around the middle of the stroke.

I hope this make sense. Has anyone got any ideas how to fix this bad habit? There was an interview that I stumbled across in my car recently on BBC Radio 4. The person being interview was the legendary Carol Kaye. She was talking about working with a metronome, she said "When you can'thear the metronome then you've got good time, if you can still had the metronome then you don't have good time". Maybe I should add some metronome practice to my list.

If you want to hear the very interesting program you can listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nk25s the bit about the timing is at 22:30. To listen, once the link has opened, click the icon in the bottom left corner of the picture. It really is worth a listen, very interesting, it's mainly a historical documentary about so there isn't much about technique etc but still very interesting. Also a full documentary on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JWqK6r6N4

Sorry to go off topic but I remembered this radio program while I was writing this post and thought I should share it, here seemed as good place as any cool.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: petr May 11 2015, 10:52 PM

Hi Gab,
pls check my attempts

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/tw4

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/tw8

tx Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 12 2015, 08:32 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 11 2015, 03:25 PM) *
I think I've worked out part of my timing issue. It may be a tricky one to fix though. Is hard to explain but I'll try.

My picking hand and foot/head mimic each other. Now this may sound good in theory but, if you think about it, when my for his the floor my pick should hit the string but in my case, the downward movement of my hand stops when my foot hits the floor and starts rising exactly with my foot. Now if you think about that, it means that the string has been hit before my foot has hit the floor. It's as though there is a solid rod connecting my foot and hand and the string sits somewhere around the middle of the stroke.

I hope this make sense. Has anyone got any ideas how to fix this bad habit? There was an interview that I stumbled across in my car recently on BBC Radio 4. The person being interview was the legendary Carol Kaye. She was talking about working with a metronome, she said "When you can'thear the metronome then you've got good time, if you can still had the metronome then you don't have good time". Maybe I should add some metronome practice to my list.

If you want to hear the very interesting program you can listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nk25s the bit about the timing is at 22:30. To listen, once the link has opened, click the icon in the bottom left corner of the picture. It really is worth a listen, very interesting, it's mainly a historical documentary about so there isn't much about technique etc but still very interesting. Also a full documentary on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JWqK6r6N4

Sorry to go off topic but I remembered this radio program while I was writing this post and thought I should share it, here seemed as good place as any cool.gif

Cheers

Phil



Hi Phil, thanks for the links! I'll check the radio program later. About your question, and well, I think that you've already answered yourself. You need some metronome work but what it's even more important, you need to slow down and practice at a tempo in which you can isolate both hand and foot and think on each at the same time. This is not possible at fast tempos, but you'll find a slow tempo that allows you to think on the movements of both parts of your body and make them do what you want, not what they want. After some time, maybe days of work, this will become natural and you'll be able to do it at faster tempos.

Does it make sense?



QUOTE (petr @ May 11 2015, 06:52 PM) *
Hi Gab,
pls check my attempts

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/tw4

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/tw8

tx Petr



Hi Petr! Great work with this! Your 4th notes are totally tight, and your 8th notes are also really good! There is just a little room to make your 8th notes even tighter so some more days of practice can work.

Also, it would be good if you practice 8th notes but using random notes from the scale. It's a good experiment to see if changing notes as a distraction affects your timing.

Posted by: Phil66 May 12 2015, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 12 2015, 08:32 PM) *
Hi Phil, thanks for the links! I'll check the radio program later. About your question, and well, I think that you've already answered yourself. You need some metronome work but what it's even more important, you need to slow down and practice at a tempo in which you can isolate both hand and foot and think on each at the same time. This is not possible at fast tempos, but you'll find a slow tempo that allows you to think on the movements of both parts of your body and make them do what you want, not what they want. After some time, maybe days of work, this will become natural and you'll be able to do it at faster tempos.

Does it make sense?


Thanks Gab, it makes perfect sense. Enjoy the radio program and also the youtube one if you have time. Very very interesting smile.gif

Posted by: Chris S. May 13 2015, 01:34 AM

Hey Gab - sorry for the delay!!

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/timing-lesson-one-take-one

Triplets are going to be the death of me dry.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 13 2015, 04:02 PM

Hi Chris, 4th and 8th notes are sounding really good on that take. Triplets not, so it would be good to hear your playing only triplets over the backing to see if the problem are the triplets or just going from 8th to triplets.

Posted by: Chris S. May 13 2015, 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 13 2015, 03:02 PM) *
Hi Chris, 4th and 8th notes are sounding really good on that take. Triplets not, so it would be good to hear your playing only triplets over the backing to see if the problem are the triplets or just going from 8th to triplets.


I get that a lot!!! wink.gif tongue.gif

Here is just triplets:

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/timing-lesson-triplets

Posted by: Phil66 May 13 2015, 09:09 PM

OK, I haven't had much practice since I got back from Spain, been catching up with work rolleyes.gif

Anyway here is a quick take, I played a mix of 4th, 8th and 4th triplets (I think unsure.gif )

I'll be getting stuck into my routine again now.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-mixed-notes-and-triplets

Cheers Gab


Posted by: Chris S. May 13 2015, 09:44 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 13 2015, 08:09 PM) *
OK, I haven't had much practice since I got back from Spain, been catching up with work rolleyes.gif

Anyway here is a quick take, I played a mix of 4th, 8th and 4th triplets (I think unsure.gif )

I'll be getting stuck into my routine again now.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-mixed-notes-and-triplets

Cheers Gab

Hey Phil!

Just curious (not to get off topic) but how was Spain?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 14 2015, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Chris S. @ May 13 2015, 02:04 PM) *
I get that a lot!!! wink.gif tongue.gif

Here is just triplets:

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/timing-lesson-triplets



Well, this sounds much better! There is still room to make the triplets sound tighter but this sounds ok, just keep on practicing triplets over the next backings. The main problem could be when you have to switch from 4th or 8th notes to triplets, so working on something like this could work:


 Timing_exercise.gp5 ( 2.61K ) : 100


QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 13 2015, 05:09 PM) *
OK, I haven't had much practice since I got back from Spain, been catching up with work rolleyes.gif

Anyway here is a quick take, I played a mix of 4th, 8th and 4th triplets (I think unsure.gif )

I'll be getting stuck into my routine again now.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-mixed-notes-and-triplets

Cheers Gab



Hi Phil, the problem here are triplets so the next task is to play only triplets over the whole backing to see if you can play them tight. Ok?


Posted by: Chris S. May 14 2015, 05:06 PM

Thanks for that, Gab! I just gave that lesson a shot and my mind is already about to explode tongue.gif

Switching between the 8ths and triplets is going to be a fun challenge.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 14 2015, 05:10 PM

Cool! My idea was to explode your mind... tongue.gif

hahaha you can use the guitar pro to practice along with the rhythms and change tempo.

Posted by: Phil66 May 14 2015, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Chris S. @ May 13 2015, 09:44 PM) *
Hey Phil!

Just curious (not to get off topic) but how was Spain?


It was brilliant, I love Andalucia and I think I have found my spiritual home in Nerja. We went last year and on our return this year, it was like going home, I felt totally at peace with the old town.

Thanks for asking. smile.gif

Thanks Gab,

Ok, I found this really hard. I'm ok with the metronome but terrible with the backing, I don't play all the way through on this piece but I was hoping if you could give me some tips to stop me going way off time. It happens at the same point on the backing every time.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 15 2015, 04:56 PM

Hi Phil, yeah, you are not playing the triplets tight. The problem here is that drums are not going in triplets so it is more difficult to keep this rhythm without any other instrument following you. However this is something that happens a lot when we are soloing on rock and blues. Phrases usually incorporate triplets combined with other note values.

You said that you can play triplets tight with metronome, so the problem is exactly be able to play triplets over a binary backing. The first exercise that you should do is to be able to think the rhythm and sing it over the backing. So, this is what you will do:

- Play and listen to the backing track. Close your eyes, and try to imagine triplets sounding over it. The 4th notes beat must be your guitar for the first triplet of each group of 3. Try to focus on it instead of the 8th notes hi hat.
- Once you can think it, sing it. Sing the triplets over the backing for a while.
- After 5 minutes of thinking and singing the rhythm, pick up your guitar and try to do it for 5 minutes.
- After 5 minutes of practice, repeat the whole process.

Do this every day, 2 or 3 times per day. Record a new take in 4 days and share it here.


Posted by: Phil66 May 15 2015, 05:44 PM

Thanks Gab,

I'll do my best. smile.gif

Posted by: Daeron May 16 2015, 09:43 PM

Hello Gabriel


I am working on the timing exercice (Guitar Pro) that you gave in an earlier message and it's interesting. I was working something like this but with one measure of each. In your exercice there are mixed triplets with 8th notes and triplet with 16th notes.

And that makes me wonder how to play triplets... I explain !
With a measure of triplets only, I play : down-up-down / up-down-up / down-up-down / up-down-up and I'm ready for the next mesure with my pick to down. But when I mix 8th notes with triplets, I have a problem : down-up / down-up-down / and then should I play up-down or down-up ? Normally, I think it should be down-up with a strict alternate picking. I'll not work this until your answer, I don't want to learn a bad thing.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 18 2015, 04:24 PM

Hi Daeron, that's a very clever question.

The answer is not exact since there is not an unique way to do it. This depends on many things, the tempo you are playing, the dynamics you want to get, and also your own style. As this is an exercise it's ok to work on this one using strictly alternate picking technique so you would be starting groups of 4 16 notes with upstrokes and things like that. This will make this a very good exercise for your right hand too.

In a musical situation it can happen that you decide to combine alternate picking with only downstrokes or even economy picking in order to get different dynamics and intentions in your playing.

So, as the great Petrucci suggests, the best is to be able to play the same lick with different techniques and picking combinations. This will allow express yourself smoother.




Posted by: Annemie May 18 2015, 08:21 PM


Hi Gab,

I did the exercise you suggested in the rec-zone. Here is my attempt with Quarter notes

 AC_DC_Quarter.mp3 ( 1.19MB ) : 121


and another atempt with eight notes

 AC_DC_Eight.mp3 ( 1.19MB ) : 116



Posted by: Daeron May 19 2015, 07:30 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 18 2015, 03:24 PM) *
The answer is not exact since there is not an unique way to do it. This depends on many things, the tempo you are playing, the dynamics you want to get, and also your own style. As this is an exercise it's ok to work on this one using strictly alternate picking technique so you would be starting groups of 4 16 notes with upstrokes and things like that. This will make this a very good exercise for your right hand too.

In a musical situation it can happen that you decide to combine alternate picking with only downstrokes or even economy picking in order to get different dynamics and intentions in your playing.


Thank you for your answer, Gabriel ! So, using strictly alternate picking technique, I should play the 8th notes with triplets like that : down-up / down-up-down / down-up / down-up-down. Isn't it ?

I understand what you tell about combining techniques in order to change the sound and dynamics.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 19 2015, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ May 19 2015, 03:30 AM) *
Thank you for your answer, Gabriel ! So, using strictly alternate picking technique, I should play the 8th notes with triplets like that : down-up / down-up-down / down-up / down-up-down. Isn't it ?

I understand what you tell about combining techniques in order to change the sound and dynamics.


by strictly alternate picking I mean:

down-up-down / up-down / up-down-up




QUOTE (Annemie @ May 18 2015, 04:21 PM) *
Hi Gab,

I did the exercise you suggested in the rec-zone. Here is my attempt with Quarter notes

 AC_DC_Quarter.mp3 ( 1.19MB ) : 121


and another atempt with eight notes

 AC_DC_Eight.mp3 ( 1.19MB ) : 116



Hi mate, thanks for this audios. Your timing is not bad, but there is room to make it sound tighter, mostly on 4th notes take which has many that are not even with the beat. Please practice one or two days more, and incorporate triplets if you can as a third exercise.

I'll be sharing a faster backing for this one.





ASSIGNMENT II

On this second assignment you have to play a single note that can be one from the scale, preferably the root, even with the beat over the same backing but with a higher tempo. This time we will work on 3 different note values, incorporating the triplets:

Beginners (level 1 to 3 in GMC lessons): Play 4th notes over the backing.
Intermediate (level 3 to 5 in GMC lessons): Play 8th notes and also 8th notes triplets over the backing.

Backing track in A:  AC_DC_Backing_90.mp3 ( 2.17MB ) : 128


DEADLINE: May 29th


Posted by: Chris S. May 20 2015, 02:32 AM

Hey Gab!

Before I start the second assignment I took an attempt at the mind blowing exercise you gave me tongue.gif

I posted it in our mentoring thread biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 20 2015, 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Chris S. @ May 19 2015, 10:32 PM) *
Hey Gab!

Before I start the second assignment I took an attempt at the mind blowing exercise you gave me tongue.gif

I posted it in our mentoring thread biggrin.gif



hehehe I've commented there! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 20 2015, 08:58 PM

Hello Gab,

Ok here is my latest attempt, (hardly any practice) at assignment 1, It starts off a little out of time, that rhythm guitar totally throws me unsure.gif . I think it is better, it may not be perfect but should I move on to assignment 2 to catch up with the others?

4th note triplets (Assignment 1)
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-timing-quarter-note-triplets

Cheers

Phil


Posted by: petr May 23 2015, 09:27 PM

Hi Gab,
pls can you check my takes on assignment 2?

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/acdc90-8?in=petr-14/sets/acdc90

triplets
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/acdc90-3?in=petr-14/sets/acdc90

thanks Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 24 2015, 11:32 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 20 2015, 04:58 PM) *
Hello Gab,

Ok here is my latest attempt, (hardly any practice) at assignment 1, It starts off a little out of time, that rhythm guitar totally throws me unsure.gif . I think it is better, it may not be perfect but should I move on to assignment 2 to catch up with the others?

4th note triplets (Assignment 1)
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/acdc-timing-quarter-note-triplets

Cheers

Phil



Hi Phil, these triplets are close but not tight yet so I think that you need to continue working triplets at this tempo, however you can go for the new assignment and practice 4th and 8th notes over it.


QUOTE (petr @ May 23 2015, 05:27 PM) *
Hi Gab,
pls can you check my takes on assignment 2?

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/acdc90-8?in=petr-14/sets/acdc90

triplets
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/acdc90-3?in=petr-14/sets/acdc90

thanks Petr



Good job Petr! 8th notes are perfect, triplets are also ok but there are some moments that could be tighter. I'd like to hear you playing both combined. For example alternate and play 1 measure triplets, 1 measure 8ths, and repeat this during the whole backing.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 26 2015, 03:37 PM

3 days to go! Anybody else working on Assignment II? smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 27 2015, 08:55 PM

I'll get mine to you tomorrow. Triplets @ 80bpm and 4th + 8th @ 90bpm. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 28 2015, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 27 2015, 04:55 PM) *
I'll get mine to you tomorrow. Triplets @ 80bpm and 4th + 8th @ 90bpm. wink.gif


Ok! smile.gif

Posted by: Daeron May 28 2015, 05:04 PM

I'm working on it too ! I'll post my take later in the evening.

Posted by: Phil66 May 28 2015, 09:03 PM

Here you go Gab. Not practised these much been busy with other things but posted anyway wink.gif

Triplets 80bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/80bpm-triplets

4th & 8th 90bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/90bpm-4th-8th

Cheers.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 29 2015, 02:50 PM

Hi Phil! Thanks for the samples!

This audios show that you are comfortable with 4th notes, a bit less comfortable with 8th notes and even less with triplets. This means that you need to focus on 8th and triplets during the next days of practice. This workout sets the roots for everything else you are practicing so it would be important to dedicate at least 15 / 20 minutes every day during this week to see what happens.


Posted by: Phil66 May 29 2015, 02:57 PM

Will do Gab, thanks. I had only had about 5 minutes practice since the last one, and that was right before this recording. As you know, I am back on it now.

Cheers buddy wink.gif

Posted by: Daeron May 29 2015, 06:59 PM

Hi Gab !

Here is my take on 4th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-4thnotes

My take on 8th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-8thnotes

And I try to make a take on triplets but I'm still not ready. I hope I can have something good this evening.

Edit : here my try on triplets but I'm not satisfied. There are some moments when I loose the beat... I have to practice more ! smile.gif

https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-triplets

Posted by: Phil66 May 30 2015, 09:15 AM

Hello Gab,

I've just spent 15 minutes before we set off for our micro holiday, looping bar 3 (triplets) in GP5 at 80%. I was wondering if there is any way to get that into my DAW?? It would be good to listen back so that I can analyse it. I think it might be useful to hear what I'm doing while I not playing and it is less distracting than the backing track. Once I've got it with the GP5 I can move onto the backing track wink.gif

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 30 2015, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ May 29 2015, 02:59 PM) *
Hi Gab !

Here is my take on 4th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-4thnotes

My take on 8th notes :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-8thnotes

And I try to make a take on triplets but I'm still not ready. I hope I can have something good this evening.

Edit : here my try on triplets but I'm not satisfied. There are some moments when I loose the beat... I have to practice more ! smile.gif

https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercise2-triplets



Hi Daeron! Excellent job with the 4th and 8th notes! Triplets still need work to sound as tight as the others so please focus on them during the next days. Future assignments will get back to triplets and combine them with other rhythm patterns so it's a good idea to try to master them.


Keep on the good job!

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 30 2015, 05:15 AM) *
Hello Gab,

I've just spent 15 minutes before we set off for our micro holiday, looping bar 3 (triplets) in GP5 at 80%. I was wondering if there is any way to get that into my DAW?? It would be good to listen back so that I can analyse it. I think it might be useful to hear what I'm doing while I not playing and it is less distracting than the backing track. Once I've got it with the GP5 I can move onto the backing track wink.gif

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers



Do you mean opening a guitar pro on your daw? Well, the way to do it is exporting your guitar pro file as a midi file, and then importing midi into your daw's project. Then, you have to assign a sound to your midi channel, and it's done, you have the notes from the guitar pro on your multitrack.

Let me know if it makes sense.


Posted by: Phil66 May 30 2015, 05:49 PM

That makes sense Gab. Thank you. I'll try it tomorrow if we get back early enough or Monday. Is it ok for me to use this method or would you rather me only to use the backing?
Thanks

Posted by: petr May 31 2015, 06:30 PM

Hi Gab,
so here is the 8th and triplets

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/acdc90-8-3

Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 1 2015, 02:24 PM

Good job Petr! Triplets are getting tighter, so you are on the right track with this. There is some room to make this sound even more precise to keep on practicing until I share the new assignment.


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 5 2015, 03:52 PM

ASSIGNMENT III

Hello friends! Congrats to all the students that are following successfully here and at your mentoring threads.

In this new assignment, we will cover some new patterns that are commonly used in both rhythm and lead guitar.

Pattern I:
The first one is a group of four 16th notes. You'd play 4 notes per beat and the figure looks like this:




Pattern II:
The second pattern combines one 8th note with two 16th notes and looks like this:




Pattern III:
Finally, the third pattern combines two 16th notes with one 8th, the same than the previous but with a different order.




Do you want to hear how these ones sound?

Check out this guitar pro file, listen and play along with it:  16th___8th_patterns.gp5 ( 1.81K ) : 95



So, the exercise is: Download the following backings. Choose the one that has a tempo that is comfortable for you and get used to play each of the patterns. Practice one at a time, and share 3 recordings here to let me check.

Then, if you master the patterns, combine them and record a 4th take with everything together.

 Timing_Workout___Assignment_3.zip ( 18.68MB ) : 142


Time to work!!

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 6 2015, 09:24 PM

Ok Gab, first attempts at 70 bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/pattern-1-70bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/pattern-2-70bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/pattern-3-70bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-70bpm

Mixing them together is the hardest, takes a lot of concentration at the moment.

Thanks



Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 7 2015, 07:31 PM

Awesome work Phil! You can play these ones at this tempo! There are two next steps:

- Accentuating a bit the notes that go with beat.
- Working on faster backings.

Congrats!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 9 2015, 02:09 PM

Hey everybody! Please don't miss assignment III: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54317&view=findpost&p=712693

Posted by: Daeron Jun 9 2015, 07:15 PM

I'm working on the 3rd assignment for 3 days. I'm able to play it correctly at 70/80 bpm on Guitar Pro but not faster at the moment. And with the backing track, it's difficult but I work !

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 10 2015, 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ Jun 9 2015, 03:15 PM) *
I'm working on the 3rd assignment for 3 days. I'm able to play it correctly at 70/80 bpm on Guitar Pro but not faster at the moment. And with the backing track, it's difficult but I work !



Hi Daeron! Thanks for the update. Keep working! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 10 2015, 03:23 PM

Should have something with you tonight smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 10 2015, 03:45 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 10 2015, 11:23 AM) *
Should have something with you tonight smile.gif



Ok! smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 10 2015, 09:14 PM

As promised Gab smile.gif

Only had around 15 minutes in total on this since last time, as explained work is difficult at the moment sad.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100bpm

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 11 2015, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 10 2015, 05:14 PM) *
As promised Gab smile.gif

Only had around 15 minutes in total on this since last time, as explained work is difficult at the moment sad.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100bpm

Cheers



Hi Phil, it's not bad but it requires more practice to sound tighter. Please keep working at this tempo for a few days.

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 11 2015, 03:48 PM

Thanks Gab

I know it's off but wanted to get something to you

Cheers

Posted by: Annemie Jun 12 2015, 09:14 PM

Hi Gab, here are my attempts at 70 BPM




 SONG0001.mp3 ( 2.34MB ) : 102
 SONG0002.mp3 ( 2.33MB ) : 88
 SONG0003.mp3 ( 2.19MB ) : 80
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 13 2015, 07:19 PM

Hi Ann! Thanks for the new takes.

The audio 1 is sounding very good, you are playing four 16th notes tight with the backing at this tempo. Audio 2 is not tight yet, you tend to play the two 16th notes a bit faster than you should so please re-check this pattern. Finally number 3 is better than the previous but there is also some room to make it sound tighter.

Remember to count the four 16th notes internally even for patterns 2 and 3 while you play them. This will help you to play both much tighter.

Practice for 3 days and share a new take.


Posted by: Daeron Jun 16 2015, 07:55 PM

Hi Gab

I've been working on this assignment each day a little bit. Here are my takes :

- Pattern 1 :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice3-70-pattern1

- Pattern 2 :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice3-70-pattern2

- Pattern 3 :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice3-70-pattern3

I tried to mix them but hum... at a moment, I always lose my points of reference. Maybe I should count 1,2,3,4.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 17 2015, 02:52 PM

Hi Daeron! Fantastic work! This samples sound very good. Congrats!

You are ready for faster tempos, and to keep on practicing combining all.

Keep on the good job!

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 17 2015, 02:58 PM

hey !!!! i MUST work on too !!!

why i did not notice this very interresting topic.........

-"darling, not necessary to wait for me tonight...... i have some work to do...."

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 17 2015, 03:48 PM

hahaha you're welcome. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 17 2015, 09:21 PM

Hello Gab,

As discussed in my thread, not had much practise lately but had a good go tonight. Here is another multiple pattern take at 100bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100-bpm

Cheers smile.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 17 2015, 10:18 PM

hi here, i joint on the run

so this is my first job

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/timing-1

Laurent

edit: i'm out of date..... i have miss something ??

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 19 2015, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 17 2015, 05:21 PM) *
Hello Gab,

As discussed in my thread, not had much practise lately but had a good go tonight. Here is another multiple pattern take at 100bpm

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100-bpm

Cheers smile.gif



Hi Phil! This sounds better! I can hear improvements here. There is still room to make it sound tighter but it's on the right track. Good job.



QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jun 17 2015, 06:18 PM) *
hi here, i joint on the run

so this is my first job

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/timing-1

Laurent

edit: i'm out of date..... i have miss something ??



Hi Laurent, this sounds good, well done. You can keep going with the following exercises. If possible, record this takes with a cleaner sound to let me hear easier your playing.


Posted by: Daeron Jun 20 2015, 08:56 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 17 2015, 01:52 PM) *
Hi Daeron! Fantastic work! This samples sound very good. Congrats!

You are ready for faster tempos, and to keep on practicing combining all.

Keep on the good job!


Thank you very much, Gabriel. I keep practicing on combining all and also on faster tempos.
Here's a take with the three patterns combined on the backing track but at the moment I can't continue during all the backing track duration, I must work more !

https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice3-70-patternmix

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 20 2015, 12:53 PM

hi Gaby

so i have do the 80bpm exercices (90 is also done)

this is the 4 exercices, 3 patterns ans a mix

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-1-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-2-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-3-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-4-80

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 20 2015, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ Jun 20 2015, 04:56 AM) *
Thank you very much, Gabriel. I keep practicing on combining all and also on faster tempos.
Here's a take with the three patterns combined on the backing track but at the moment I can't continue during all the backing track duration, I must work more !

https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice3-70-patternmix



This is on the right track but there is still room to make the patterns sound tighter. Keep working!


QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jun 20 2015, 08:53 AM) *
hi Gaby

so i have do the 80bpm exercices (90 is also done)

this is the 4 exercices, 3 patterns ans a mix

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-1-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-2-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-3-80

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-4-80

Laurent



Hi Laurent! You are doing a very good job with this exercises. Your playing is consistent on each of the audios that you've shared here. There are some little moments where your playing is not tight but most of the time your playing is tight. Keep on the good job!

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 20 2015, 11:48 PM

QUOTE
There are some little moments where your playing is not tight but most of the time your playing is tight

yes i have noticed too, it's my son who want to play with my guitar too... disturbing !

a new batch

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-1-90

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-2-90

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-3-90

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-4-90

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 22 2015, 03:02 PM

Hi laurent, your playing is tight on this samples, well done. However, patterns 2 and 3 are sounding the same. You are playing pattern 2 on both audios, do you notice it?


Posted by: fzalfa Jun 22 2015, 03:18 PM

Hi Gabriel

ho ! i do not notice...... may i do it again ?

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 22 2015, 03:31 PM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jun 22 2015, 11:18 AM) *
Hi Gabriel

ho ! i do not notice...... may i do it again ?

Laurent



yes! I think that the same happens on the take in which you mix all patterns... the number 3 isn't there...

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 22 2015, 03:33 PM

ok i'll re-done both !

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 23 2015, 03:28 PM

Great.

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 24 2015, 09:22 AM

ok, seem on the right patern, or maybe i turn crazy

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-4-1-90

the medley

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-4-2-90

see ya tonight (for me....)

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 24 2015, 03:07 PM

Hi Laurent, please re-check the guitar pro file. Both patterns 2 and 3 can sound the same when you loop them but depending on where you play the 8th note you'll be playing one of the other. On this audio sample, you start with an 8th note while the pattern starts with 2 16ths. As you play it as a loop, all the 8th notes are played over the strong beat of the measure (kick and snare).

Does it make sense?

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 24 2015, 03:14 PM

ok, i see, my brain is buggy !!

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 24 2015, 03:54 PM

hahaha this can be confusing. Let me know if you need more help with this. wink.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 24 2015, 06:05 PM

We talk about it later in v chat

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 24 2015, 09:16 PM

Hello Gab,

Here is another, sorry but this slipped my mind too, i got into the feelings collab, you know what I'm like once I get into one of those, everything else goes out of the window biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100-bpm-3

I do agree 100% with your comments to Laurent, it can be confusing when looping #2 and #3 licks, kind of an aural illusion smile.gif

Cheers

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 24 2015, 10:18 PM

hey phil !! the track is about 1m30 of duration, what about the missing minutes ?

it's so easy biggrin.gif

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 24 2015, 10:21 PM

Not so easy for me mate tongue.gif

I am OK with a click track but the backing throws me off time rolleyes.gif

I cut it while I'm ahead laugh.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 25 2015, 12:13 PM

another attempt.....

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/test-exo-beat-4-3-90

a medley

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/test-exo-beat-4-5-90

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 25 2015, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 24 2015, 05:16 PM) *
Hello Gab,

Here is another, sorry but this slipped my mind too, i got into the feelings collab, you know what I'm like once I get into one of those, everything else goes out of the window biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/patterns-1-2-3-100-bpm-3

I do agree 100% with your comments to Laurent, it can be confusing when looping #2 and #3 licks, kind of an aural illusion smile.gif

Cheers



Good job Phil! Just put more attention on going tighter, but the patterns are clear and defined. Well done!



QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jun 25 2015, 08:13 AM) *
another attempt.....

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/test-exo-beat-4-3-90

a medley

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/test-exo-beat-4-5-90

Laurent



Unfortunately you are still playing pattern 2 instead of 3. Please check this post and listen to patterns 2 and 3 to hear the difference: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54317&view=findpost&p=712739

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 25 2015, 03:43 PM

ok

this is the right one...... or i throw all my guitars via the window....


https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/test-exo-beat-4-6-90

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 25 2015, 03:58 PM

Thanks Gab,

I think the tightness will come with playing over and over. Will we be getting another assignment or should we wait until these are perfect?


Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 25 2015, 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 25 2015, 11:58 AM) *
Thanks Gab,

I think the tightness will come with playing over and over. Will we be getting another assignment or should we wait until these are perfect?


Cheers

Phil



I'll share a new assignment soon, but please keep on practicing this one.

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 25 2015, 04:38 PM

Most definitely. Cheers Gab.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 25 2015, 07:07 PM

ASSIGNMENT IV

Hey guys! This is the new timing assignment. On this one, we'll start working on triplets. Check out how they look in the score:



and this is how they sound with a metronome:  Triplets.gp5 ( 1.57K ) : 92


As you can see, triplets can make that 3 notes have the duration of 2. So if you have a 8th notes triplets, you'll have to play 3 (8th) notes over a beat, where we usually play 2.

The first part of the assignment is to play triplets over the backing track.

The second and third part of this one are to combine triplets with the patterns worked on the previous assignment:


 Triplets_combined.gp5 ( 1.55K ) : 89




 Triplets_combined_2.gp5 ( 1.55K ) : 86


The combination can be tricky, and even more if you couldn't master assignment III yet, so be patient and work hard!


Posted by: Daeron Jun 25 2015, 09:23 PM

I started working on the new assignment. But 120bpm will be too fast for me. The limit at the moment is 100bpm and I hae to work to be tight at this tempo. happy.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 26 2015, 04:54 PM

It's ok mate, please everybody work at its comfortable tempo.

Posted by: fzalfa Jun 26 2015, 06:27 PM

i launch myself..... (no easy in fact ! )

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-triplet-1-90

90 bpm triplet

Laurent

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 27 2015, 09:24 AM

Here is my first attempt. I haven't mastered any of these assignments and I'm still working on the others but I find triplets the hardest, does anyone else? Also keeping it going for this whole track is hard. For this attempt I had to keep the metronome running with the track. Next post will be without the metronome.

I also find triplets the hardest when you change tempo. Worst case scenario would be triplets over a track where the tempo changes erratically, so 4 bars at 60bpm, then 4 bars at 120bpm, 4 bars at 90 bpm etc. laugh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm

Cheers Gab


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 27 2015, 05:51 PM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jun 26 2015, 02:27 PM) *
i launch myself..... (no easy in fact ! )

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/exo-beat-triplet-1-90

90 bpm triplet

Laurent



Hi Laurent, you're on the right track with this. The triples are very close, but there is still work to do to make everything sound tight. Please keep on practicing this assignment at this tempo for a few days before you go for a faster backing.



QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 27 2015, 05:24 AM) *
Here is my first attempt. I haven't mastered any of these assignments and I'm still working on the others but I find triplets the hardest, does anyone else? Also keeping it going for this whole track is hard. For this attempt I had to keep the metronome running with the track. Next post will be without the metronome.

I also find triplets the hardest when you change tempo. Worst case scenario would be triplets over a track where the tempo changes erratically, so 4 bars at 60bpm, then 4 bars at 120bpm, 4 bars at 90 bpm etc. laugh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm

Cheers Gab



Hi Phil, yeah, triplets are usually more difficult to master, and even more when we play them over a backing track in which drums or other instruments are not following us as in this case. In this audio you tend to play the triplets faster so the last note of each group is a bit longer than the other ones...




Posted by: Phil66 Jun 27 2015, 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 27 2015, 05:51 PM) *
Hi Phil, yeah, triplets are usually more difficult to master, and even more when we play them over a backing track in which drums or other instruments are not following us as in this case. In this audio you tend to play the triplets faster so the last note of each group is a bit longer than the other ones...


Yeah I noticed that Gab, i guess it's hard to divide the beat into three so I must be subconsciously going in early to make sure it fits rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 28 2015, 01:05 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 27 2015, 03:11 PM) *
Yeah I noticed that Gab, i guess it's hard to divide the beat into three so I must be subconsciously going in early to make sure it fits rolleyes.gif

Cheers


hehe yeah, that's what happens, so you'll have to be patient and play each note at its right time.... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 4 2015, 09:26 PM

I'm back on this now Gab smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 5 2015, 01:36 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 4 2015, 05:26 PM) *
I'm back on this now Gab smile.gif



Great!

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 5 2015, 08:33 PM

Okay, picking up on this one again. 90bpm.

I find I go into a trance after a while and drift out of time biggrin.gif I guess mind control is all part of it smile.gif It's not good but I put it on here anyway rolleyes.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-2

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 6 2015, 12:51 AM

Hi Phil, yes, this needs more work because you tend to go faster than you should. The triplets are not regular, the first two notes are shorter so the last one of the group of 3 is longer. The 3 notes should have the same duration.

Please keep this exercise into your diary routine. I won't give you complementary stuff for this because I now that you have a lot of to do in your diary practice. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 6 2015, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 6 2015, 12:51 AM) *
Hi Phil, yes, this needs more work because you tend to go faster than you should. The triplets are not regular, the first two notes are shorter so the last one of the group of 3 is longer. The 3 notes should have the same duration.

Please keep this exercise into your diary routine. I won't give you complementary stuff for this because I now that you have a lot of to do in your diary practice. wink.gif


Hello Gab,

OK, I've slowed it down, these triplets are soooo hard you need to be a musical mathematician to get them wacko.gif I can still hear that they aren't correct but I think they are a little bit closer.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-70bpm-1

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 7 2015, 04:46 PM

hahahaha this new take is much better so this is the right tempo to practice now. The triplets still need to be tighter but not I'm hear you playing triplets, while on previous takes the rhythm was confusing.

This lesson combines 8th notes with 16th and triplets. Have you ever played it?

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 7 2015, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 7 2015, 04:46 PM) *
hahahaha this new take is much better so this is the right tempo to practice now. The triplets still need to be tighter but not I'm hear you playing triplets, while on previous takes the rhythm was confusing.

This lesson combines 8th notes with 16th and triplets. Have you ever played it?

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/


Yes Gab I have it in my bookmarks, I commented on it in the feedback. I think I'll add it on days when I have more time like weekends. wink.gif Maybe make it my morning session as soon as I get up, unless the hangover is too bad sad.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 8 2015, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 7 2015, 04:07 PM) *
Yes Gab I have it in my bookmarks, I commented on it in the feedback. I think I'll add it on days when I have more time like weekends. wink.gif Maybe make it my morning session as soon as I get up, unless the hangover is too bad sad.gif

Cheers

Phil



hahaha, ok, it sounds like a plan. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 12 2015, 08:13 PM

Ok Gab,

I have not been giving this enough attention lately due to my Darius solo taking my life over laugh.gif I had another go today at 70bpm and just couldn't get it anywhere near, had a go at 80bpm and it's a bit better. Going to start making this my very first part of practise to be sure not to miss it.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-80bpm-1

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 13 2015, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 12 2015, 04:13 PM) *
Ok Gab,

I have not been giving this enough attention lately due to my Darius solo taking my life over laugh.gif I had another go today at 70bpm and just couldn't get it anywhere near, had a go at 80bpm and it's a bit better. Going to start making this my very first part of practise to be sure not to miss it.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-80bpm-1

Cheers




Hi Phil! Great to see you back to the timing practice. This shows that you need to dedicate some time every day to this workout. Please keep it in your diary practice. The triplets are not tight yet.

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 13 2015, 08:02 PM

Hello Gab,

OK, you may class this as cheating but I think it is a good idea as a training aid to get the real feel of triplets as I think it's hard for the beginner's mind to do an equal three part split on the beat.

Now if my maths is correct, I set the metronome to 3/4 time at 240 bpm, this should equate triplets in 4/4 time at 80 bpm. I used the metronome to get the feel while I was playing along with the backing.

Do you think this is ok to do for the first stages to get the feeling of pure triplets and then try again without the metronome but, when recording without the metronome, play back with the metronome to see how well you have done?

PLAYING WITH METRONOME
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-3-using-metronome

PLAYING WITHOUT METRONOME
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-3-without-metronome

Cheers

OOOPS! blink.gif Ignore the file name that says 90bpm, they WERE 80bpm DOH! laugh.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 14 2015, 08:51 PM

Another go, bit faster.

WITH METRONOME 90bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-using-metronome

WITHOUT METRONOME 90bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-without-using-metronome

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 15 2015, 05:40 PM

Hi mate, this is getting better! Yeah, that metronome idea is a good trick to get familiar with this rhythm. However I noted that your performance is similar on both versions, and maybe even better on the "without metronome" one, since the other is a bit like "hurried". Do you note it?

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 15 2015, 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 15 2015, 05:40 PM) *
Hi mate, this is getting better! Yeah, that metronome idea is a good trick to get familiar with this rhythm. However I noted that your performance is similar on both versions, and maybe even better on the "without metronome" one, since the other is a bit like "hurried". Do you note it?


Thanks Gab,

I could hear a difference but couldn't work out what it was rolleyes.gif I found that if I played along with the metronome for a while it helped me to "understand" the feeling of a triplet.

Off out for a midweek meal, back later hopefully wink.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Jul 15 2015, 07:49 PM

i finish my two lessons about triads, and i'll come back here !

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 16 2015, 03:50 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 15 2015, 01:59 PM) *
Thanks Gab,

I could hear a difference but couldn't work out what it was rolleyes.gif I found that if I played along with the metronome for a while it helped me to "understand" the feeling of a triplet.

Off out for a midweek meal, back later hopefully wink.gif



yeah, maybe it's good to use it at first to feel the triplet and then play without it. Good trick. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 26 2015, 07:58 PM

ASSIGNMENT V

Ok guys! This new assignment will be based on a GMC lesson from our archive that combines some of the rhythms that we've been covering here: 8th notes, 16th notes and triplets. The lesson is great for alternate picking but it's also a very good excuse to work on your timing skills.

I recommend everybody to start with the slower backings and go for the normal tempo only if you feel comfortable with the previous ones.

This is the link to the lesson: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

Feel free to share your takes over the slower backings to let me monitor your progress.

Who it in?

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 26 2015, 11:07 PM

Wooohooo, that's my weekend workout that I haven't been doing.
Now I'll have to get stuck in.
Nice one Gab wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 27 2015, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 26 2015, 07:07 PM) *
Wooohooo, that's my weekend workout that I haven't been doing.
Now I'll have to get stuck in.
Nice one Gab wink.gif



hehehe ok, you can work on it as soon as you get back from vacation.

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 2 2015, 09:28 PM

Back but I've been so busy. Will be on it tomorrow.

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 3 2015, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 2 2015, 05:28 PM) *
Back but I've been so busy. Will be on it tomorrow.

Cheers



Ok mate, thanks for notifying. wink.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Aug 4 2015, 11:56 AM

i'm in the assignement V

edit:

i have done that, the end part seem to be played almost correctly but the sound preset seem so weird....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/test-rythm

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 4 2015, 01:56 PM

Hi Laurent. Thanks for the take!

I think that you should work on a slower backing because you are still not able to play the faster parts at the current tempo. So please go for the first or second backing shared on the original lesson, work on it for a few days until you notice that you can play the 16th notes and triplets tight and share a new take, ok?

Posted by: fzalfa Aug 4 2015, 02:18 PM

it's allright !

Laurent

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Aug 4 2015, 03:32 PM

Quick take on this:



I feel like I'm slightly behind the beat all the time. Hmmm...

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 5 2015, 02:00 PM

Hi Cael! Great to find you working here!

You're right, you are not going tight with this one, you tend to go a bit before the beat. This happens with each note value so you definitely need to continue working on this assignment, and maybe give a try to some of the previous ones.

The tasks seem to be easy but they are not. Keeping this kind of practice in our every day practice routine can have a very important impact in our overall playing.

Posted by: Farine54 Aug 6 2015, 10:03 PM

Hi Gabriel,

here's my first work. I think I 'm in front of timming huh.gif

 Timing_Rec_01.mp3 ( 2.39MB ) : 96
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 7 2015, 02:07 PM

Hi Farine! Great to see you working on this one!

As you've already noted, you are playing before the beat, you are not going even. Here are some tips to continue working on this.

1. Listen to the backing without playing. Close your eyes and imagine your guitar sounding even there. Do this exercise tof 5 minutes. Tap with your foot while you do it.

2. Pick up your guitar and start playing over the backing. Close your eyes and tapi with your foot.


Do this two steps many times every day and you'll be able to feel the timing and go tight.

Please try it and let me know how it feels.

Posted by: fzalfa Aug 7 2015, 07:33 PM

Hi Gabriel

this is a new take a bit slower

edit: at full speed....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/test-speed-3

Laurent

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 8 2015, 09:18 PM

Hi Laurent, it's getting better but you still have problems to play tight and clean triplets and 16th notes. Please keep on practicing every day. The best would be to isolate the trickier rhythms and work on them over the backing first, and then get back to the whole lesson.

Posted by: Farine54 Aug 11 2015, 06:57 PM

Hi Gabriel ,

here is my test. I can't work every day but I try a max.

I hope at least there is a little improvement.



 Timing_Rec_02.mp3 ( 2.26MB ) : 80
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 12 2015, 01:53 PM

Hi Farine! This is getting better! Have you tried the tips that I've shared?

You still need to practice to make this sound tighter but the good news are that you are on the right track with the practice. Remember that it's always more helpful to practice every day, at least 5/50 minutes, so if you find this time maybe before going to sleep, your playing will keep improving.

Keep on the good job!

Posted by: Farine54 Aug 12 2015, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 12 2015, 02:53 PM) *
Hi Farine! This is getting better! Have you tried the tips that I've shared?

You still need to practice to make this sound tighter but the good news are that you are on the right track with the practice. Remember that it's always more helpful to practice every day, at least 5/50 minutes, so if you find this time maybe before going to sleep, your playing will keep improving.

Keep on the good job!


Hi Gabriel,

yes i try the tips ( listenning the same track many times ... many times ..... wacko.gif blink.gif ) laugh.gif

The timing's exercice has become my only one ......
Let's go wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 13 2015, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Farine54 @ Aug 12 2015, 12:48 PM) *
Hi Gabriel,

yes i try the tips ( listenning the same track many times ... many times ..... wacko.gif blink.gif ) laugh.gif

The timing's exercice has become my only one ......
Let's go wink.gif



Ok, so please keep going and combine this with any rhythm lesson that you like from our archive.


Posted by: Daeron Aug 14 2015, 08:48 AM

Hi Gabriel

I post my work on assignment IV at 70bpm :

Triplets combined 1 :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined1

Triplets combined 2 :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined2

I'll work on the new assignment if this is correct. Thank you !

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 15 2015, 06:11 PM

Hi mate, these takes are not right. You are playing 16th notes in the part that you should be playing triplets. Please re-check the assignment's tasks and let me know if you need any help.


Posted by: Daeron Aug 16 2015, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 15 2015, 05:11 PM) *
Hi mate, these takes are not right. You are playing 16th notes in the part that you should be playing triplets. Please re-check the assignment's tasks and let me know if you need any help.


Oh my... I don't know what happened. Maybe I was drunk or worst ! laugh.gif
I'll post new takes as soon as possible with triplets instead of 16th notes... sorry.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 16 2015, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Daeron @ Aug 16 2015, 07:04 AM) *
Oh my... I don't know what happened. Maybe I was drunk or worst ! laugh.gif
I'll post new takes as soon as possible with triplets instead of 16th notes... sorry.



hahaha ok! wink.gif

Posted by: mad Aug 22 2015, 08:47 AM

Hey Gab, you can find my take on Assignment #5 http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=54803&view=findpost&p=717008
just in case you missed it wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2015, 08:03 PM

QUOTE (mad @ Aug 22 2015, 04:47 AM) *
Hey Gab, you can find my take on Assignment #5 http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=54803&view=findpost&p=717008
just in case you missed it wink.gif



Thanks for notifying here! I'll check it now. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 22 2015, 09:29 PM

Back on it tomorrow. Sorry for my absence sad.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 23 2015, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 22 2015, 05:29 PM) *
Back on it tomorrow. Sorry for my absence sad.gif



Welcome back mate. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 23 2015, 08:54 PM

Part 1, full speed.

I need to print this lesson out again, I can never remember the sequence of notes laugh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-5-part-1

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 25 2015, 07:37 PM

Hi Phil, this is on the right track but still has room to make those 8th notes tighter. Sometimes the pair of 8th notes is not totally regular so keep on practicing with all your focus on it.


Posted by: Alex5 Aug 27 2015, 08:50 PM

I've doing assignement I. Can I post it in ?
The deadline has passed...

It's harder than it seems...

Posted by: Daeron Aug 28 2015, 10:46 PM

Hi Gab !

New attempt on assignment IV. Sorry, I hadn't much time for guitar these days...

Triplet combined 1 at 70bpm :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined1-1

Triplet combined 2 at 70bpm :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined2-1


I hope that this time I'm working on the right exercice ! wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 29 2015, 02:21 PM

QUOTE (Alex5 @ Aug 27 2015, 04:50 PM) *
I've doing assignement I. Can I post it in ?
The deadline has passed...

It's harder than it seems...



There are no more deadlines here. Work at your own time and share here your progress at any time. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 1 2015, 05:37 AM

QUOTE (Daeron @ Aug 28 2015, 06:46 PM) *
Hi Gab !

New attempt on assignment IV. Sorry, I hadn't much time for guitar these days...

Triplet combined 1 at 70bpm :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined1-1

Triplet combined 2 at 70bpm :
https://soundcloud.com/david-enrique-20/timingexercice4-70-tripletcombined2-1


I hope that this time I'm working on the right exercice ! wink.gif



Hi Daeron, now we are talking!! Good job, the patterns are well played now and most of the parts sound tight over the backing track. You are now ready to try faster tempo and give a try to the following assignment.



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ASSIGNMENT VI

Hello guys! On this new assignment we will continue exploring patterns that based on 16th notes (and some combinations), but this time we have more difficulties:

- You won't stay on the same note, these are phrases.
- We have a new pattern to learn:



As you can see, there is a dot just after each 8th note, so you have to learn what it means:

"Dotted Notes

A dotted note is a second way to modify note duration. Very simply, placing a dot, or period after any note makes it half as long again. So, a quarter note with a dot after it lasts for 3/8ths of a note (this is where you start to actually use the fractions you learnt at school!), because 1/8 is half of 1/4 (the original note length), and:

1/4 + 1/8 = 3/8

Written down, it looks like this:
"
from Andrew Cockburn's theory articles. Link http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=3204.

And you can hear it here:  new_pattern.gp5 ( 1.46K ) : 73


Once you get comfortable with this new pattern, the lesson to work is this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rhythm-Figures-Workout/

Please start slowly using metronome, and the slower backing tracks, and share audios here every time you want some feedback.

Who is in?

Posted by: petr Sep 1 2015, 11:03 PM

Hi Gab,

Im in.
The suggested lesson http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rhythm-Figures-Workout/
doesnt seem that difficult, everything starts on the beat.

I have been working on your lesson http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Iron-Maiden-For-Beginners/ but for me the timing there is difficult, mostly not starting on the beat. I know the theory, I broke down all the notes to 16th grid so I know where they start using the 1-e-&-a pattern but at the original speed that doesnt seem to be possible to use.



Do you have any suggestion?

Petr
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rhythm-Figures-Workout/

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 2 2015, 06:50 PM

Hi mate, do you mean that you are experimenting problems with this riff?



The pattern starts with the beat but then it has an upbeat feel. Is the upbeat the thing that is giving your problems? Have your practiced upbeat 8th notes over a metronome?

Posted by: Daeron Sep 2 2015, 11:00 PM

Thank you, Gab ! I'm now working on Assignment V. I like this exercises !

Posted by: petr Sep 2 2015, 11:35 PM

Hi Gab,
yes, that is the riff. An isolated upbeat with metronome is fine, here it is more complex.
I actually got one suggestion from somebody today - I was playing it using alternate picking and the suggestion was to do downstroke for downbeats and upstroke for upbeats, so it would be



Also this riff is not easy for me


but this one is played downstrokes only so the plan above can not be used here.

Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 3 2015, 01:48 PM

Hi mate, good suggestion and graphics. The first thing that you should do to master this kind of rhythms is to be able to reproduce the rhythm with your voice and also with your hand hitting a table or something. Do this for a while over metronome and then over the backing, and you'll incorporate the rhythm much more. Then, get back to your guitar and see what happens.


Posted by: petr Sep 6 2015, 02:12 PM

Hi Gab,
pleae can you check my take of the : http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rhythm-Figures-Workout/
lesson here

https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/rf20150906

thanks Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 7 2015, 05:08 AM

Good job Petr! This sounds good. I recommend you to continue practicing this one to make the patterns sound even more consistent. Sometimes intensity is irregular and just a few notes don't go tight. But this is REALLY close.

Keep on the good job!

Posted by: mad Sep 9 2015, 10:51 AM

Hey Gab!

You can find my recording http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=54803&view=findpost&p=718044

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 9 2015, 03:12 PM

Ok Mad, thanks for notifying here. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 17 2015, 02:49 PM

ASSIGNMENT VII

Hello GMCers! In this new assignment we will work on a new pattern based on triplets. This time we will cover the combination of 4th with 8th notes on a triplet pattern. Check it out:



and listen how it sound on guitar pro:  Triplets_feel_riff.gp5 ( 1.6K ) : 87



In order to work on this pattern, the lesson recommended is my Muse Style lesson which uses this pattern in every riff. So once you can play the pattern over the backing track, work on some riffs from this lesson, and practice them over the backing track or metronome:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Muse-Goes-Stoner/

Then, share your recordings here.

Who is in?

Posted by: Daeron Sep 18 2015, 07:30 AM

I'm still working on the assignment V. I was hoping to be able to play at 90bpm to record on the BT but my max speed is around 85bpm and I don't know how to increase. My right hand isn't able to speed more on 16th notes at the moment.

Should I record with the backing track decreased at around 80bpm ? Or continue and wait until I can reach 90 bpm ?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 18 2015, 01:11 PM

Be patient and increase tempo by 1 or 2 beats each day. Also, visualize your goal. Stop playing, listen to the 100 bpm backing and imagine yourself playing the exercise over it, some air guitar is welcome. Do this during 3/5 minutes every day and then get back to practice.

About sharing takes at slower tempos.... yes! You can do it here. smile.gif

Posted by: mad Sep 23 2015, 12:30 PM

Hi Gab!
I just uploaded my take straight into the http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54973&pid=718938&st=0&#entry718938!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 23 2015, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (mad @ Sep 23 2015, 08:30 AM) *
Hi Gab!
I just uploaded my take straight into the http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54973&pid=718938&st=0&#entry718938!



Great! I'll check it. Thanks for notifying here. wink.gif

Posted by: slickster Oct 20 2015, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 5 2015, 02:52 PM) *
ASSIGNMENT III

Hello friends! Congrats to all the students that are following successfully here and at your mentoring threads.

In this new assignment, we will cover some new patterns that are commonly used in both rhythm and lead guitar.

Pattern I:
The first one is a group of four 16th notes. You'd play 4 notes per beat and the figure looks like this:




Pattern II:
The second pattern combines one 8th note with two 16th notes and looks like this:




Pattern III:
Finally, the third pattern combines two 16th notes with one 8th, the same than the previous but with a different order.




Do you want to hear how these ones sound?

Check out this guitar pro file, listen and play along with it:  16th___8th_patterns.gp5 ( 1.81K ) : 95



So, the exercise is: Download the following backings. Choose the one that has a tempo that is comfortable for you and get used to play each of the patterns. Practice one at a time, and share 3 recordings here to let me check.

Then, if you master the patterns, combine them and record a 4th take with everything together.

 Timing_Workout___Assignment_3.zip ( 18.68MB ) : 142


Time to work!!

I know how to count 16th or 8th notes, but how do you count them combined thx

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 21 2015, 02:32 PM

QUOTE (slickster @ Oct 20 2015, 06:03 PM) *
I know how to count 16th or 8th notes, but how do you count them combined thx



Hi Slickster, this combined patterns can seem tricky at first but once you get used to them you'll notice that these are also natural. The way to learn them here is opening the guitar pro files and listening to the samples. Turn on metronome on guitar pro and play it over and over. Try to follow the patterns with your foot or voice. Once you think you can do it, record yourself doing it and share it here to let me check it. Ok?


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 3 2015, 07:06 PM

ASSIGNMENT VIII

Hello guys! In this new assignment we will work on the previous concepts but with two differences. We will get into more musical stuff and we will add another important element that is called Dynamics. When playing solos or riffs, we don't play every note with the same intensity, we use different intensities to give different accents and feels to what we play.

Please listen to this lesson, try to find out what figures I'm using. Start tapping with your foot while listening and count how many notes I play at each beat. Then, pay attention to dynamics, listen how I accentuate different notes, sometimes I go with the beat, while sometimes I go upbeat. Try to discover when I do each thing.

Learn to play the lesson, practice it over the backing tracks and share your takes here (and/or at REC program)

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Tycho-Style/

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