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Axel Rudi Pell, What Do You Think of This Playing?
Victor Simion
Jul 23 2020, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 23 2020, 04:18 AM) *
That is impressive! it's the most technical thing I think I've heard from him. Then again, there is a LOT of his work that I have just never heard. You have a good point on the moving of the goal post. Standards and techniques, style, etc. are in constant change so comparing guitarists of different decades can never be apples to apples. More like apples to orange juice. Very tough to compare. I just based it on what I had heard from him in a general sense. I had no idea he was the PETRUCCI of his day to be honest. Which seems now more like what he was.

Now I see why Gabe was reluctant to generalize about it. I tried it was just flat out wrong. Live and learn smile.gif

Yes, Highway star is a great example, so it is Burn, played by Ritchie Blackmore and guitar isolated.










QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 23 2020, 04:18 AM) *
Yeah, I watched it just now and I heard the pitch issues as well and he seems like he's just doing random shredding in spots. It's not tied to anything in the backing or the rythm, just detached sorta shreddy bits. Can't hear h is pick attack so even though he's playing fast in bits, it's really hard to hear. I think he would have a tough time in REC if he put this up as his take smile.gif


Yes, but maybe it was not fair to analize a live playing of Axel, it's different from studio song.

This is the studio version and contains 2 solos, one in the middle and an ending solo.
Middle Clean Solo: 4:17, this clean part remainds of the ending of the burn solo.
Middle Heavy Guitar Solo: 5:06
Ending Solo: 7:10




But I feel that even in the studio his hands are not in sync at fast speeds.

That is interesting for me, because when I first played guitar I did not pay attention to this details, this is how I thought it should sound.

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Jul 23 2020, 10:57 AM
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Cool tune! Yeah, studio stuff usually sounds a bit better than a live recording. Ideally, one should be able to be John Petrucci/Steve Vai and play just as well live or recorded but most of us are not those guys smile.gif Still, it's a goal worth reaching for. Here is our fave young Russian player doing a recorded version of racer x tune SCIT SCAT WAH which is a very complex bit of shreddery. smile.gif He came up in another thread as well.




Here is MAX doing his thing LIVE with another classic racer X tune (these two songs are sorta the Racer X 2fer/party piece things that shredders almost have to learn at some point) MAX does a great job live and in the studio. He's a really good example imho of a regular guy, well semi regular guy, who can do both pretty well. His live one has a few glitches, but not for a 15 year old kid in front of a huge audience of fellow Russians smile.gif





QUOTE (Victor Simion @ Jul 23 2020, 03:38 AM) *
Yes, Highway star is a great example, so it is Burn, played by Ritchie Blackmore and guitar isolated.












Yes, but maybe it was not fair to analize a live playing of Axel, it's different from studio song.

This is the studio version and contains 2 solos, one in the middle and an ending solo.
Middle Clean Solo: 4:17, this clean part remainds of the ending of the burn solo.
Middle Heavy Guitar Solo: 5:06
Ending Solo: 7:10




But I feel that even in the studio his hands are not in sync at fast speeds.

That is interesting for me, because when I first played guitar I did not pay attention to this details, this is how I thought it should sound.

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Jul 23 2020, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 23 2020, 09:57 AM) *
Cool tune! Yeah, studio stuff usually sounds a bit better than a live recording. Ideally, one should be able to be John Petrucci/Steve Vai and play just as well live or recorded but most of us are not those guys smile.gif Still, it's a goal worth reaching for. Here is our fave young Russian player doing a recorded version of racer x tune SCIT SCAT WAH which is a very complex bit of shreddery. smile.gif He came up in another thread as well.




Here is MAX doing his thing LIVE with another classic racer X tune (these two songs are sorta the Racer X 2fer/party piece things that shredders almost have to learn at some point) MAX does a great job live and in the studio. He's a really good example imho of a regular guy, well semi regular guy, who can do both pretty well. His live one has a few glitches, but not for a 15 year old kid in front of a huge audience of fellow Russians smile.gif



Yes, Max is an amazing player, not to mention that if he had 15 years old he did he had time to practice to become so good?


Take a look at this one:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Ritchi...ckmore-Style-2/

This contains:
- Blackmore style riffs,
- Bending in the style of Blackmore, how does he do that?
- And picking on one string as fast as Blackmore does

This is amazing!

Even if Axel is influenced by Blackmore I think he has his own personality like Gabriel said that each guitar player has his own voice, personality, and I think he deserved a lesson "In style of Axel Rudi Pell".

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Todd Simpson
Jul 23 2020, 09:12 PM
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Good question on MAX. I have no idea how he got so good so quick so young, other than he must have started very young and practiced his brains out!

I"m guessing a RUDI PELL lesson will show up in REC at some point! I was surprised not to find one.


QUOTE (Victor Simion @ Jul 23 2020, 06:34 AM) *
Yes, Max is an amazing player, not to mention that if he had 15 years old he did he had time to practice to become so good?

ayer has his own voice, personality, and I think he deserved a lesson "In style of Axel Rudi Pell".

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QUOTE (Victor Simion @ Jul 23 2020, 04:38 AM) *
Yes, but maybe it was not fair to analize a live playing of Axel, it's different from studio song.

This is the studio version and contains 2 solos, one in the middle and an ending solo.
Middle Clean Solo: 4:17, this clean part remainds of the ending of the burn solo.
Middle Heavy Guitar Solo: 5:06
Ending Solo: 7:10




But I feel that even in the studio his hands are not in sync at fast speeds.

That is interesting for me, because when I first played guitar I did not pay attention to this details, this is how I thought it should sound.



His playing is much more precise in this studio version. There are not pitch issues at all, the fast parts sound consistent, with his dirty style but without the hand sync issues that I noted in the live clip, and the parts sound good composed and more connected with the chords.

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