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GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ Student/teacher Audio Collab.
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 3 2013, 03:52 AM
Hi everyone,
I thought it might be fun to do a student audio collaboration (teachers are invited to participate too) with this track I recorded this morning. It's in the key of B minor and is 166bpm. It's got a fairly laid back beat but you could anything with it really.
I will set the deadline for 28th September so there is plenty of time to come up with something.
Looking forward to hearing from any of you 
Pat
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-student-collaboration
PS: you should be able to download the track from sound cloud.
Posted by: sammetal92 Sep 3 2013, 05:05 AM
Awesome! 
Posted by: Hajduk Sep 3 2013, 05:29 AM
Great backing track.
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 3 2013, 06:40 AM
Hi mate! This is a very good idea and also a very nice backing to jam. Is it also open for instructors?
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 3 2013, 07:03 AM
Very cool idea and I like the backing track!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 3 2013, 08:54 AM
Wow man - this sounds so inspiring! I downloaded it and if I come up with something good, might be you can have me in here 
Posted by: mad Sep 3 2013, 09:19 AM
Love it Patrik! I'll come up with something for sure!
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 3 2013, 01:25 PM
Thanks Sam, I'm hoping for an inspiring take from you
thanks Haj, so you're in?
Thank you Gab, yes absolutely, it is open to anyone.
Thank you Monica, I look forward to hearing a take from you. you're solo in menthalwhore collab inspired this track a bit actually. I could hear some very melodic soloing to this as I wrote it.
Yes please Cosmin, I'm still coming up with ideas for your wolverine track too, I haven't forgotten
Thank you Mad, I look forward to hearing something from you \m/
Posted by: WeePee Sep 3 2013, 01:34 PM
That track sounds like earlier Coldplay records. Maybe I'll come up something for this too 
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 3 2013, 01:48 PM
Cool, cheers WeePee, I look forward to hearing from you
Posted by: bleez Sep 3 2013, 10:31 PM
such a cool sounding backing track, I'll definitely have a go at it
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 3 2013, 10:53 PM
Cheers Bleez, I look forward to hearing it.
Posted by: Taka Perry Sep 3 2013, 10:55 PM
Hey man, I saw this on my SoundCloud stream and really liked it! Didn't realise it was the same track as this one I'm in!
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 4 2013, 01:06 AM
Very nice track! Will probably do a take over this in the next few days!
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 4 2013, 02:11 AM
I'm in!Posted by: bahadirpeker Sep 4 2013, 06:19 AM
A short but very cool and impressive sounding backing track!
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 4 2013, 06:34 AM
I'm really glad that my solo inspire you a little bit for your track
It's a honor for me to hear that from a player like you. Unfortunately, this morning I recived 2 message and aparently for 2 people my solo inspire them to use words from bad slang urban dictionary. I really love your backing and last night I was have an idea for a solo over it. But today I realised that some people judge me comparing my beginner style of playing with yours high level playing. I'm not a good image at this moment for peoples from collab. So, I decide to take a break and do not participate in collab for a while. Or at least this is what I think right now.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 4 2013, 07:24 AM
It's a honor for me to hear that from a player like you. Unfortunately, this morning I recived 2 message and aparently for 2 people my solo inspire them to use words from bad slang urban dictionary. I really love your backing and last night I was have an idea for a solo over it. But today I realised that some people judge me comparing my beginner style of playing with yours high level playing. I'm not a good image at this moment for peoples from collab. So, I decide to take a break and do not participate in collab for a while. Or at least this is what I think right now.
I think that this is far from being a good idea
You should participate in as many collabs as possible, because that is one of the ways in which you can get better and better! Remember, any neck of the woods has its weeds Not everyone is cool and supporting, but that is NO REASON for you to stop! I think you should go for this collab - you know in Japan, you would dishonor Patrick if you wouldn't accept participating in a collab he made because your work inspired him
Posted by: bleez Sep 4 2013, 08:30 AM
dont let them bother you. Personally, Ive really liked your solos which I have heard. Very melodic and solid. I hope you keep doing the collabs, your playing is more than good enough.
also, I cant play as good as Patrick either
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 4 2013, 09:00 AM
It's a honor for me to hear that from a player like you. Unfortunately, this morning I recived 2 message and aparently for 2 people my solo inspire them to use words from bad slang urban dictionary. I really love your backing and last night I was have an idea for a solo over it. But today I realised that some people judge me comparing my beginner style of playing with yours high level playing. I'm not a good image at this moment for peoples from collab. So, I decide to take a break and do not participate in collab for a while. Or at least this is what I think right now.
Monica....in this particular situation You have to forget that You are a woman...I mean You have to limit Your natural emotional relation to sucha comments. Do You have any idea how many times I was offended by some fans of a guys who play:
1. Nothing new
2. Not even precise
3. Not in tune
4. Nothing fancy - copying good old stuff...I mean...doing covers point to point
Fans of people at the level which I usually teach - not learn from
and suddently I became an object of judgement by some YT trolls Because - They can write their opinion with no responsibility...also usually no expirience supporting their judgment etc.
Make yourself an absolue chill on this
Look under the videos of guys like Buddy Guy, Clapton, Beck....some silly kids write things like"My school friend plays better than him"
"Why is that guy famous? Jason Becker could eat him alive"
etc...
This is just a lack of knowlege and they will understand someday and think "man how stupid I was when I was a kid, I didn't understand so many things".
Remember also that word "kid" could have additional meaning - "guitar kid". I mean a player who is a grown-up but a kid in sense of thinking about guitar and overall music knowlege.
Of course...there is also a bunch of regular bastards who lives only because they can write something "wise" under Your vid
Soo...we all get some of those and it's always this way - especially when Your a "phrasing-type" of player
You won't win with this Make yourself a drink, sit down on the chair, granb You guitar and enjoy Your life!
That's all
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 4 2013, 09:08 AM
Thank you bahadirpeker.
It's a honor for me to hear that from a player like you. Unfortunately, this morning I recived 2 message and aparently for 2 people my solo inspire them to use words from bad slang urban dictionary. I really love your backing and last night I was have an idea for a solo over it. But today I realised that some people judge me comparing my beginner style of playing with yours high level playing. I'm not a good image at this moment for peoples from collab. So, I decide to take a break and do not participate in collab for a while. Or at least this is what I think right now.
I wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true, I really dig your solos because they're intelligent, there is no pressure form me and I'm sad to hear what you say about the received messages. Ignore the haters
You should participate in as many collabs as possible, because that is one of the ways in which you can get better and better! Remember, any neck of the woods has its weeds Not everyone is cool and supporting, but that is NO REASON for you to stop! I think you should go for this collab - you know in Japan, you would dishonor Patrick if you wouldn't accept participating in a collab he made because your work inspired him I agree with you Cosmin, hearing other people play their ideas over a backing track is a very good way to understanding that person and it can only make you a better player by trying different styles.
also, I cant play as good as Patrick either
aww shucks Bleez, I think you're a great player \m/
and yes "water off a ducks back" as the saying goes, don't worry about what others think, do what you want to do
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 4 2013, 11:38 AM
Forgot the most important - great track Patrik! Very good mood - chill out and awesome ambient in the background! I'll try to find some time to add my few notes to it
Posted by: sammetal92 Sep 4 2013, 12:29 PM
Monica, ignore the trolls, because that's what they are, trolls you have the whole of GMC supporting you, don't let anyone's words get you down! All of the haters write that because either they feel jealous and they want to make themselves feel good, or they don't have anything else to do (i.e. they don't really have a life and they spend their days on youtube entertaining themselves by posting hate everywhere). Everyone has haters! I just delete hate messages 
or sometimes I reply back to them "Happy Birthday!" just a random thing I do
I'm not a teacher at all, but I'm saying your take was PERFECTION because it sounded and looked perfect to me Now don't let some strangers make you feel blue, the opinions of people you know count, haters' opinions don't
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 4 2013, 01:04 PM
Thank you to all of you for your support and advices. Sometimes I forget to limit my emotions
I was not upset because those 2 guys don’t like my melodic style of solo over a metal backing. This thing doesn’t affect me. This is how I feel the music and if someone likes my work is ok if don’t like it doesn’t matter for me. The only thing that bothered me was the way they said it. Curiosity made me to look at their profiles (the PM was in my Facebook page) and see how good guitarists they are. I was surprised to see, they are only teenagers, hardcore metal listeners, not players. So, I cried for nothing…like a girl
Cosmin – Thank you for your advices And BTW I’m glad that I’m not leave in Japan, because if I refuse Patrik maybe he will ask me to make Seppuku ( the Bushido way)
Bleez – Thank you my friend for your kind words I can wait to hear your solo for Patrick collab. I know it will sound great!
Darek – I can’t imagine how a person can offend a musician like you. This is not fair. You can play any style of music and your channel on Youtube proves that. You should be considered the player who can satisfy all tastes. You can’t judge a person if you listened only one song which not fit Your taste. In my case until I made a final opinion about You, I listened all stuff on Your channel, including band work (there I found The Cheez- Love is blindness, far better version then original, where you was special guest). I will listen your advice and I will try to be chill and get used with such comments
Patrik – I will try to make a decent solo for your awesome backing. By the way your backing fits for my style and you made it in my favorite scales I will do my best to not disappoint you
Sam – I really thank you for your support You know, after some hours, in this moment I see the good thing in all that bad messages. I learn some new "dirty" words in English Who knows after I will make about 15 solos maybe can I write a "Dirty Dictionary" I replayed both guys and I said only “Thank you for watching my video”.
So guys, thanks from my heart and sorry for acted like a girl Let’s make some cool solo for Patrik
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 4 2013, 01:32 PM
I was not upset because those 2 guys don’t like my melodic style of solo over a metal backing. This thing doesn’t affect me. This is how I feel the music and if someone likes my work is ok if don’t like it doesn’t matter for me. The only thing that bothered me was the way they said it. Curiosity made me to look at their profiles (the PM was in my Facebook page) and see how good guitarists they are. I was surprised to see, they are only teenagers, hardcore metal listeners, not players. So, I cried for nothing…like a girl
Cosmin – Thank you for your advices
And BTW I’m glad that I’m not leave in Japan, because if I refuse Patrik maybe he will ask me to make Seppuku ( the Bushido way) Bleez – Thank you my friend for your kind words
I can wait to hear your solo for Patrick collab. I know it will sound great!Darek – I can’t imagine how a person can offend a musician like you. This is not fair. You can play any style of music and your channel on Youtube proves that. You should be considered the player who can satisfy all tastes. You can’t judge a person if you listened only one song which not fit Your taste. In my case until I made a final opinion about You, I listened all stuff on Your channel, including band work (there I found The Cheez- Love is blindness, far better version then original, where you was special guest). I will listen your advice and I will try to be chill and get used with such comments
Patrik – I will try to make a decent solo for your awesome backing. By the way your backing fits for my style and you made it in my favorite scales
I will do my best to not disappoint you Sam – I really thank you for your support
You know, after some hours, in this moment I see the good thing in all that bad messages. I learn some new "dirty" words in English Who knows after I will make about 15 solos maybe can I write a "Dirty Dictionary" I replayed both guys and I said only “Thank you for watching my video”.So guys, thanks from my heart and sorry for acted like a girl
Let’s make some cool solo for Patrik No worries - we all have to handle this
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 4 2013, 02:58 PM
It's a honor for me to hear that from a player like you. Unfortunately, this morning I recived 2 message and aparently for 2 people my solo inspire them to use words from bad slang urban dictionary. I really love your backing and last night I was have an idea for a solo over it. But today I realised that some people judge me comparing my beginner style of playing with yours high level playing. I'm not a good image at this moment for peoples from collab. So, I decide to take a break and do not participate in collab for a while. Or at least this is what I think right now.
I'm not letting you take a break! If I decide to make a collab at some point I'm forcing you to play!
Don't let that get to you. We were all starting out somewhere and I for one thought you had some nice melodies to your solo. It's not always about speed (hell, I'm struggling with fast speed picking even though I've played for years (but not practiced properly)).
Keep at it and you'll see a lot of progress very soon. I also listened in on the chat the other day. Some good and sound advice in there. Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future!
Posted by: mad Sep 4 2013, 03:15 PM
Let’s make some cool solo for Patrik Darius told me about this and I was worried, now I'm so happy to read that
OK, let's make some solos
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 4 2013, 08:07 PM
Don't let that get to you. We were all starting out somewhere and I for one thought you had some nice melodies to your solo. It's not always about speed (hell, I'm struggling with fast speed picking even though I've played for years (but not practiced properly)).
Keep at it and you'll see a lot of progress very soon. I also listened in on the chat the other day. Some good and sound advice in there. Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future!
Thank you for support and for sure I will join if you gonna make a collab
You have right and here in GMC, is the perfect place to be when you want to improve your technique.OK, let's make some solos
Hey Mad, thank you a lot for your concern. I'm ok now, I learned new things and I will try to be immune to trolls
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 5 2013, 07:23 AM
Monica if you are ever in doubt, think of one thing:
You are out there doing things - it is the easiest to stay behind a keyboard and do nothing. By simply doing what you like best you are soaring up in the sky, while all those trolololololollers are groveling in the mud
I think your work is very good and since I am not the only one saying that, we all might have a point in what we are saying right?
Now get out there and play!
Posted by: Blister Sep 19 2013, 01:38 PM
This thread has taken quite an interesting twist. It also shows the proof in the power of the GMC community to rally together for one of its own. Just another reason why I'm a proud member of GMC! My only advice is that if you love making & playing music, don't let anyone steal that away from you through their harsh words. The love of music is a part of your soul or spirit & the only way someone can take that away from you is if you purposefully throw it away.
Hmmm... how about a collab "GMC vs. the Trolls"? I'm afraid creating backing tracks isn't my forte yet, but I do like naming them!
Back to the original topic, I haven't seen any posts in quite a while. Patrik, this is a great bt & I have been trying to come up with some ideas. I'm assuming it's still active. 
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 19 2013, 01:54 PM
My only advice is that if you love making & playing music, don't let anyone steal that away from you through their harsh words. The love of music is a part of your soul or spirit & the only way someone can take that away from you is if you purposefully throw it away.Hmmm... how about a collab "GMC vs. the Trolls"? I'm afraid creating backing tracks isn't my forte yet, but I do like naming them!
Back to the original topic, I haven't seen any posts in quite a while. Patrik, this is a great bt & I have been trying to come up with some ideas. I'm assuming it's still active.
Ha,ha,ha,...... this is a funny idea "GMC vs the Trolls"
The main topic I hope it's still available, because I will sent to Patrik my take this weekend. I finished the improv and I must only make the rec. I'm very curious if he gonna like it
So guys, who it's ready for Patrik collab? Don't loose this chance because he made a very great backing track
Posted by: bleez Sep 19 2013, 03:04 PM
I'll be recording my take very soon as well
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 19 2013, 03:29 PM
This is a great news
Welcome Bleez I hardly wait to hear the final mix made by Patrik. I guess will be great
I love this backing and I wish more people involve in this collab. Because the main topic was a little derailed because of me I want to make a campain for Patrik collab.
So, until now people who made confirmation are : Blister, Bleez and of course me
Somebody else for Patrik collab almost ready with the take?
Please guys Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 19 2013, 11:29 PM
Hey everyone, sorry I haven't been here lately, it's the end of the school term here and my work has been hectic to say the least. This collab is still active so if you have something recorded then send me a link to your sound cloud or what ever you use with your take both with and without the backing would be great. Thanks for your interest and sorry again for not being very active here.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 20 2013, 08:29 AM
That track is amazing - I will definitely join if I find the right time and inspiration to record something So who else is on?
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 20 2013, 12:42 PM
well here is my take, I knocked off work at 6:30 this friday evening (first night of two weeks of holidays), my wife is away, my 12yr old son has a buddy over for a sleep and I'm having a few beers, headphones on and here is an improv solo over my track, there may be more (both beers and takes that is )
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-collaboration-5-stubbies
Posted by: bleez Sep 20 2013, 12:56 PM
(both beers and takes that is )https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-collaboration-5-stubbies
Improv? damn! sounding very good already. When I improvise I tend to find all the crap notes first
I'll fire up my take this weekend, Ive played it so much there's no chance Im going to be able to change it now even if I wanted to
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 20 2013, 01:31 PM
I'll fire up my take this weekend, Ive played it so much there's no chance Im going to be able to change it now even if I wanted to
looking forward to it Bleez
Posted by: bleez Sep 20 2013, 09:39 PM
well, my attempt will probably be this version -
Patrik, I'll PM you the audio files... at some point
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 21 2013, 12:46 AM
This backing has a huge potential Patrik! Love it Here's my few notes
https://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/patrik-berg-collab-w-bt
And here is the "solo-only" track:
patrik_collab_solo_only.mp3 ( 1.88MB )
: 66
Posted by: Taka Perry Sep 21 2013, 07:41 AM
Finally got around to doing it! I had a lot of fun doing this actually, it's got a very pop feel to it Let me know what you think!
The full track:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-with-backing
Without the backing:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-without-backing
Posted by: tflava Sep 21 2013, 08:14 AM
Ok it sounds real nice,
But now we can put an improvisation on it and where do we drop it then?
I also would like to go with this and learn to improvise.
Thanks already
Grtz tim
Posted by: Ulrik Sep 21 2013, 08:20 AM
I think this will be my solo (you'll get the GuitarsOnly soon).
Posted by: Taka Perry Sep 21 2013, 08:26 AM
But now we can put an improvisation on it and where do we drop it then?
I also would like to go with this and learn to improvise.
Thanks already
Grtz tim
If you go to the first page of this thread, there's a download link to the backing track. Basically, what you do is you download it, record your original guitar part over it, and post it on this thread. Just make sure you post two versions; one with the backing track and one without. You can post them up on Soundcloud and enable downloads, that's how I do it
Posted by: quadrium Sep 21 2013, 11:38 AM
Aaaand i am back! Really loved the track. Will try to come up with something soon
Posted by: verciazghra Sep 21 2013, 11:42 AM
Let me know what you think!The full track:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-with-backing
Without the backing:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-without-backing
Nice, I started playing around with ideas over your ideas, probably shouldn't tho. Really nice playing.
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Sep 21 2013, 04:46 PM
This is my take Patrik, I sent you the tracks in PM. It was a real pleasure to compose over your awesome backing track
https://soundcloud.com/monica-gheorghevici/patrik-collab
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2013, 07:04 PM
Love it Here's my few notes https://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/patrik-berg-collab-w-bt
And here is the "solo-only" track:
patrik_collab_solo_only.mp3 ( 1.88MB )
: 66Amazing take and such sublime note choice! Kudos my friend!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2013, 07:40 PM
Nice takes everyone This track proves to be a great inspiration!
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 22 2013, 11:13 AM
Thank You Cosmin. I see there is much going on after I posted my take, other takes seemed to fall like a rain drops All at the same time! Great job guys and girls!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 23 2013, 08:38 AM
All at the same time! Great job guys and girls! Aye, indeed
Pat - Can I come up with something during next weekend? I have the Pantera gig this Friday and I must practice hellishly for it.
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 24 2013, 04:37 AM
Patrik, I'll PM you the audio files... at some point
Thank you Bleez, this sounds great
just mind the tuning on your guitar it's a little bit flat I think. Love it Here's my few notes https://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/patrik-berg-collab-w-bt
And here is the "solo-only" track:
patrik_collab_solo_only.mp3 ( 1.88MB )
: 66Thank you darius, your solo sounds amazing.
Let me know what you think!The full track:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-with-backing
Without the backing:
https://soundcloud.com/taka-perry-drafts/collab-without-backing
Thank you Taka, I love your solo mate, it sounds perfect.
But now we can put an improvisation on it and where do we drop it then?
I also would like to go with this and learn to improvise.
Thanks already
Grtz tim
Hey tflava,
as Taka said you can download the link on the first page of this thread, then use the file with some recording software and solo over the top of it, upload it to soundcloud or some similar site and post your links in here, one with the backing and one with just the guitar.
Hey Ulrik, thank you for your participation, the solo sounds great.
Really loved the track. Will try to come up with something soon Looking forward to it
Patrik, I sent you the tracks in PM. It was a real pleasure to compose over your awesome backing track https://soundcloud.com/monica-gheorghevici/patrik-collab
Thank you Monica, this sounds excellent as I expected from you
Pat - Can I come up with something during next weekend? I have the Pantera gig this Friday and I must practice hellishly for it.no worries Cosmin, I will be a few days late with mixing it all anyway as my wife seems to find more "important" things for me to do.
Posted by: bleez Sep 24 2013, 08:52 AM
just mind the tuning on your guitar it's a little bit flat I think.Ahh! no probs, It may just be my awesome playing but I'll double check before recording the take. cheers duder.
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 24 2013, 10:42 AM
Thanx Patrik! Also thanx for Your huge activity in collabs!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 24 2013, 10:54 AM
Thanks mate - will try to come up with something this weekend That track is so good, I wanted to ask you if it would be ok to use it for a nice cause, but unfortunately my time is my enemy and I don't think it's a doable project on such a short notice.
As you may've heard - in my country there is a huge turmoil because of the cyanide gold mining scandal and from the beginning of this month, there are tens of thousands rallying on the streets each night to protest against the law that would allow this project to destroy a beautiful region of Romania, by a gold mining company. About 4 mountains would be destroyed out of greed and political machinations... I wanted to bring my support to the cause against the project by convincing all my guitarist friends here in Romania, to lay down a little lead part and we could share it as the Romanian Guitar Power against the Rosia Montana cyanide mining That was my plan and I wanted to ask if you would agree to let us use the track.
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 24 2013, 11:11 AM
A quick improvised take for you. Hope it's alright
https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/student-collab-at-gmc
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 24 2013, 02:39 PM
Nice tone Ben! I like that sharp edge while playing hard...that's what I found very tasty while using with that kind of emotional backing tracks
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 24 2013, 09:45 PM
Thanks, Darius. I had packed my favorite guitar away as I'm visiting the girlfriend for the next few days and brought it with me, so I was playing on my strat. It wasn't as adventureous a take as yours, but you got me inspired. Maybe I'll have a second go at it tomorrow.
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 24 2013, 10:19 PM
If You have some time to do it then go for it Strat's have "that something". You might love it or hate it but...never leave it alone
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 25 2013, 07:29 AM
Ah, Darius - he wants TO SELL it ... the Fender I mean 
ain't that just a shame? He will be sorry later as he admitted it himself .. Anyway, I love the tone as well, Ben!
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 25 2013, 10:22 AM
I did another take (with my 7 string) based on the previous take:
https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/gmc-student-collab
Posted by: Patrik Berg Sep 26 2013, 04:49 AM
That track is so good, I wanted to ask you if it would be ok to use it for a nice cause, but unfortunately my time is my enemy and I don't think it's a doable project on such a short notice.As you may've heard - in my country there is a huge turmoil because of the cyanide gold mining scandal and from the beginning of this month, there are tens of thousands rallying on the streets each night to protest against the law that would allow this project to destroy a beautiful region of Romania, by a gold mining company. About 4 mountains would be destroyed out of greed and political machinations... I wanted to bring my support to the cause against the project by convincing all my guitarist friends here in Romania, to lay down a little lead part and we could share it as the Romanian Guitar Power against the Rosia Montana cyanide mining
That was my plan and I wanted to ask if you would agree to let us use the track.of course you can Cosmin, you may use it however you want.
https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/student-collab-at-gmc
https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/gmc-student-collab
but this one sounds better, I love this take, it's perfect.
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 26 2013, 07:45 AM
Thanks, Patrik! I think I might have an even better take in me though when I get home. We'll see!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 26 2013, 09:39 AM
Sounds great Cael
but this one sounds better, I love this take, it's perfect.
Hey Pat - thank you bunches, man!
Ben - I like the new one better as well - it looks like that 7 string suits you best
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 27 2013, 07:21 PM
Ben - I like the new one better as well - it looks like that 7 string suits you best
As I've said before, it's weird, cause the strat is set up so beautifully and is so easy to play.
Posted by: sammetal92 Sep 27 2013, 07:47 PM
Man, I totally couldn't get time to record anything :/ Even though I have come up with something, I'll try my best to record and send my take in the morning!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 28 2013, 09:00 AM
Hey Sam - there's still time I'll be racing with you on the last 100 meters to submit this take, so don't worry, you are not alone!
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 28 2013, 10:51 AM
Here's another take, but I only have the video and not the audio, so just use the other take:
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 28 2013, 02:15 PM
Once again mate - you have very nice articulation skills! I like the way in which you hold a note, let it breathe and then vibrate it Good work!
Posted by: sammetal92 Sep 28 2013, 07:27 PM
Yes! Finally done! I hope I made it in time, I am so eager to join this collab For some reason, Soundcloud is failing at uploading my solo only file (Probably because its a big wave file), so I uploaded it on mediafire, I hope it wouldn't be much of a problem?
I'll be racing with you on the last 100 meters to submit this take, so don't worry, you are not alone! Did I win?
https://soundcloud.com/sam-ryan-stormrage/patrik-bergs-collab-full
Download links:
Full Solo with backing: http://www.mediafire.com/?45nc32sjqtnfq8c
Solo only wave file: http://www.mediafire.com/?yja67x9cawue9vj
EDIT: Forgot to add, in the intro, I used a note out of the scale, but it sounded good to me, so I hope it won't be a problem?
Posted by: Ulrik Sep 28 2013, 09:01 PM
Hi, I wanted to clean my take up a bit (there are some small unwanted noises) but I haven't had the time to record again.
Feel free to add effects to this.
...and I really like the take Darius did, it's great, but I guess that is why he is an instructor.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 29 2013, 12:26 PM
I hope I made it in time, I am so eager to join this collab For some reason, Soundcloud is failing at uploading my solo only file (Probably because its a big wave file), so I uploaded it on mediafire, I hope it wouldn't be much of a problem? Did I win?
https://soundcloud.com/sam-ryan-stormrage/patrik-bergs-collab-full
Download links:
Full Solo with backing: http://www.mediafire.com/?45nc32sjqtnfq8c
Solo only wave file: http://www.mediafire.com/?yja67x9cawue9vj
EDIT: Forgot to add, in the intro, I used a note out of the scale, but it sounded good to me, so I hope it won't be a problem?
Hey Sam - yes, you won
I will place mine tomorrow, but in the mean time, after listening to your take, I wanted to suggest that you should focus a bit more on the bends as they are a little under the pitch sometimes. And also, the timing seems unsure - if you want you could re-do it, but it's good to keep an eye out on things in the future in what concerns this Feel free to add effects to this.
...and I really like the take Darius did, it's great, but I guess that is why he is an instructor.
Hey mate - your tone, in this bare state reminds me a little of Bumblefoot's clean tone
Posted by: sammetal92 Sep 29 2013, 03:22 PM
I will place mine tomorrow, but in the mean time, after listening to your take, I wanted to suggest that you should focus a bit more on the bends as they are a little under the pitch sometimes. And also, the timing seems unsure - if you want you could re-do it, but it's good to keep an eye out on things in the future in what concerns this Yeah I went all "Tool" on this
But on a serious note, I had these lines in my head, but I didn't have time to refine them, and now I'm trying to record my Axemen take, so I don't know if I'll have time to re record I'm hoping these mistakes won't be present in my axemen take
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 29 2013, 04:31 PM
Feel free to add effects to this.
...and I really like the take Darius did, it's great, but I guess that is why he is an instructor.
Thank You a lot! That's really kind of Yours!
https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/gmc-student-collab
Sounds really nice Ben....but hmmm...I'm gonna miss that strat tone You had in the first one
Posted by: bleez Sep 30 2013, 12:53 AM
Here's my stuff, fashionably late . I re-tuned and recorded it again, also dropped some of the wah.
with backing -
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/5-stubbies-collab
without backing -
[attachment=33742:bleez_guitar_only.wav]
cheers Patrik, it was a really cool backing to play over.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 30 2013, 08:14 AM
. I re-tuned and recorded it again, also dropped some of the wah.with backing -
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/5-stubbies-collab
without backing -
[attachment=33742:bleez_guitar_only.wav]
cheers Patrik, it was a really cool backing to play over.
Hey mate - it's better indeed, but still, I can feel some tuning issues - what happened to the guitar?
But on a serious note, I had these lines in my head, but I didn't have time to refine them, and now I'm trying to record my Axemen take, so I don't know if I'll have time to re record I'm hoping these mistakes won't be present in my axemen take
Ah, Sam, I understand - but my suggestion would be to never record something until you are 100% happy with it and confident that THAT, would be the maximum you can give at THAT point in time
Keep this in mind and you will only win
Posted by: bleez Sep 30 2013, 08:27 AM
Im not too sure tbh. Im due to book it in for some re-fretting work this week, could really do with new strings as well but due to the re-fretting being imminent Ive just left the old ones on a bit too long. Maybe its something to do with that.
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 30 2013, 10:22 AM
Bleez - it does fit nicely to the backing track anyway
Posted by: bleez Sep 30 2013, 12:41 PM
thanks Darius
Posted by: gregc1 Sep 30 2013, 01:54 PM
Awesome backing track Patrik, can't believe I missed this. Is there a deadline?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 30 2013, 04:47 PM
Re-fretting.. hmmm - how long has this guitar been played?
Posted by: bleez Sep 30 2013, 07:35 PM
well I bought it new in 1990 and Ive only ever had frets 1 to 5 re-fretted! the rest are all original gibson frets, but in my defence I dont think Ive ever played as much as I have in the 18 months.
frets 9 and 14 are awful at the moment. Thats why Ive been using wah on everything lately
Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 30 2013, 09:03 PM
frets 9 and 14 are awful at the moment. Thats why Ive been using wah on everything lately
What a nasty trick Bleez
Wah wah for hiding the fret issues ? Someone told me once "Turn the wah wah off - it's made for cheating" I sang him "get the funk out" by Extreme ...)) But hye was probably right at some point - caught a few people who could play some fast runs only with wah wah but Your the most original with masking the frett issues
Posted by: bleez Sep 30 2013, 09:23 PM
Wah wah for hiding the fret issues ? Someone told me once "Turn the wah wah off - it's made for cheating" I sang him "get the funk out" by Extreme ...)) But hye was probably right at some point - caught a few people who could play some fast runs only with wah wah but Your the most original with masking the frett issues LOL Very true
It may be the closest thing to an actual 'speed' pedal! ...... but it also sounds cool If only I could wah wah my bends into the correct pitch I would use it twice as much
Posted by: Blister Oct 1 2013, 05:50 AM
I know this is late & most likely won't make it into the collab. Sorry But I posted it just in case.
I also posted cause I was hoping to get some help. I promise I really tried to get the tuning right. My guitar has been setup. I used a chromatic tuner & not my amp modeler tuner. I even re-tuned multiple times after every few takes (I did a lot of takes!). I tuned at open, 5th fret & 12th. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
http://soundcloud.com/gary-frampton/p-berg-collab-2
Patrik, thanks again for creating a great backing track!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 1 2013, 07:39 AM
Hey Gary - I don't think it sounds bad man - maybe the intonation needs to be set up?
Maybe you want to take a look at Marcus's lesson on intonation
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Adjusting_Your_Guitars_Intonation/
Wah wah for hiding the fret issues ? Someone told me once "Turn the wah wah off - it's made for cheating" I sang him "get the funk out" by Extreme ...)) But hye was probably right at some point - caught a few people who could play some fast runs only with wah wah but Your the most original with masking the frett issues Heh!
Exactly! There's no cheating in music Because it's not a test, nor a competition! What will they do - tell Nuno he cheated when he used a delay pedal to play 'The flight of the Bumblebee'?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 2 2013, 06:59 PM
Hey mate - better a little late than never
I threw in a few lines:
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 3 2013, 05:36 AM
Thank you everyone for your fantastic takes, This is now closed and I will be mixing and posting by Sunday. Sorry it's taken so long and that I haven't been posting as much as I should but I've been camping on the Noosa north shore.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 3 2013, 10:24 AM
Haha! I made it just in time
Thank you for putting this together Pat!
Posted by: Darius Wave Oct 3 2013, 10:57 AM
Exactly! There's no cheating in music Because it's not a test, nor a competition! What will they do - tell Nuno he cheated when he used a delay pedal to play 'The flight of the Bumblebee'? Bu ha ha ha
And I was so naive and try to play all the notes with no delay...but that's no suprise - in the 90's I had no single opportunity to see extreme show anywhere (including TV)...they were only playing More Than Words over and over again ))Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 3 2013, 11:51 AM
And I was so naive and try to play all the notes with no delay...but that's no suprise - in the 90's I had no single opportunity to see extreme show anywhere (including TV)...they were only playing More Than Words over and over again ))Tell me about it - the only thing that people know about that band is THAT song
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 7 2013, 12:01 AM
Thank you everyone for making this a great collaboration, I love listening to each of your solos and the way you express your voices through your guitar to more or less reveal a bit of yourselves to my backing track. I added the solos in the same order that you gave the files to me (I know that's a bit lazy of me). I hope you enjoy.
Pat - learn to play the guitar would ya.
bleez - great solo mate, some very good ideas in there in particular your phrasing, pretty good guitar tone, personally I would have given it a bit more mids but that is a small issue to what is essentially a very good recording. Thank you for joining.
Darius - nothing to say here really other than thank you for a beautiful solo. Thank you.
Taka - wonderful rhythmic playing, great tone and some very nice phrasing in there. Thank you.
Cael - that is a seriously warm guitar tone, in fact it was so warm I had to boost some mid highs, I hope you don't mind. Great solo, very nice phrasing and melodies. Thanks for being a part of the collab.
Monica - great solo Monica, very nice note choices again and the tone is just great. Thank you
Sam - very nice little solo there sam, some very cool melodic ideas, don't be afraid of mids though, I love a scooped sound for rhythm but a solo needs mids to cut the mix. Thanks for being a part of the collab.
Ulrik - nice sliding melodies in the solo and a good guitar tone but if I'm not mistaken you are using old strings on your guitar which can cause intonations to go out and a very "wavy" sound. I added chorus, phase, reverb and delay to your sound. Thanks for your participation in the collab.
Blister - very chilled solo, you showed great restraint and your note choices were spot on. I had to boost the signal quite significantly but made very few other changes. Thank you for your take.
Cosmin - thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule and adding your solo. Great volume swells and those bends were very tasty indeed. Thanks again
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-student-teacher
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Oct 7 2013, 07:14 AM
This sounds great Patrik. I really liked to hear all the takes together.You made a great job
One things and I hope you will not mind because I tell you that. My solo it's not fix in the right place over the backing and some notes are in the wrong place and doesn't sound good
But in the rest I don't have any complain
I hope you will don't stop here and I hardly wait to hear a new backing from you for another collab. I will be on the list
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 7 2013, 08:42 AM
Hey Pat! Thank you for having man - tho I have the same suggestion as Monica's My take was thought so that it would fit that particular section of the backing. Now, I know that it's hard to put all those together and keep each one in the part where it was originally meant to be, so I understand what's happening The backing is killer and I loved to play along with it!
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 7 2013, 09:45 AM
One things and I hope you will not mind because I tell you that. My solo it's not fix in the right place over the backing and some notes are in the wrong place and doesn't sound good
But in the rest I don't have any complain
I hope you will don't stop here and I hardly wait to hear a new backing from you for another collab. I will be on the list
I'm very sorry about that Monica, I will try to change it and repost.
My take was thought so that it would fit that particular section of the backing. Now, I know that it's hard to put all those together and keep each one in the part where it was originally meant to be, so I understand what's happening The backing is killer and I loved to play along with it!Sorry Cosmin, I will try to fix it and repost.
I apologise to any others that I have messed up too, I will leave this one up though until I sort it out.
Posted by: Darius Wave Oct 7 2013, 10:14 AM
It sounds really cool Good idea to leave the mix until You fix a few solos placement in the song Awesome collab Patrik!
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 7 2013, 12:24 PM
Sorry to those affected by my misalignments, I've removed the previous link and corrected the backing track to the best of my ability, I should have asked everyone to start with the drums as the backing track has a very slow phaser effect which is hard to line up with itself but as I said, this is done to the best of my ability now and if there are any further misalignments then please let me know and I will see if there is anything I can do. I hope this hasn't scared anyone away from any further collaborations I might start.
Pat
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-student-teacher
Posted by: bleez Oct 7 2013, 12:50 PM
Pat
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-student-teacher
Damn, that turned out really cool..... what a bunch of talented folks we are
so many really nice melodies and phrasing thought that whole track.
Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Oct 7 2013, 01:04 PM
Now it's perfect, everything it's fit with backing My solo and Cosmin solo are in the right place Thank you so much Patrik for this thing.
Don't worry, you not scared me and surely I will not miss any collab made by you with this kind of backing It's fit perfect for my style
I liked to be part of this collab. All solos are really great Thank you Patrik and I wait another backing from you
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Oct 7 2013, 01:26 PM
Thanks for doing the collab, Patrik, it was a great backing track, and I took the advice and adjusted my mids a bit in my tone and think I got an even better tone now. So thanks
Posted by: sammetal92 Oct 7 2013, 04:03 PM
That's so awesome Scared? Man I was scared you would be scared to have me in the collab now I'll be waiting for your next collab great job everyone
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 8 2013, 08:12 AM
Thank you Pat - now everything seems to have fallen into place
I think this collab really shows the power that we have when we join forces - pretty darn amazing, eh?
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Oct 8 2013, 11:20 AM
I think this collab really shows the power that we have when we join forces - pretty darn amazing, eh?
I could definitely hear an improvement from previous collabs in the different takes, so I'd say everyone has moved in the right direction!
Posted by: Darius Wave Oct 8 2013, 02:53 PM
It went so good that now You have to make some more collabs Patrik!
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Oct 8 2013, 03:08 PM
I agree with that! More, more!
Posted by: Blister Oct 9 2013, 03:47 AM
I believe this is my third attempt at jumping into the GMC collab arena. Thank you so much for your kind comments.
Regarding the need to "boost my signal", is there something I can adjust when recording to make a stronger signal?I must agree with everyone else on how great this collab turned out. I am very pleased to be involved in it. I, too, am looking forward to your next collab!
Posted by: Taka Perry Oct 9 2013, 04:53 AM
Pat - learn to play the guitar would ya.
bleez - great solo mate, some very good ideas in there in particular your phrasing, pretty good guitar tone, personally I would have given it a bit more mids but that is a small issue to what is essentially a very good recording. Thank you for joining.
Darius - nothing to say here really other than thank you for a beautiful solo. Thank you.
Taka - wonderful rhythmic playing, great tone and some very nice phrasing in there. Thank you.
Cael - that is a seriously warm guitar tone, in fact it was so warm I had to boost some mid highs, I hope you don't mind. Great solo, very nice phrasing and melodies. Thanks for being a part of the collab.
Monica - great solo Monica, very nice note choices again and the tone is just great. Thank you
Sam - very nice little solo there sam, some very cool melodic ideas, don't be afraid of mids though, I love a scooped sound for rhythm but a solo needs mids to cut the mix. Thanks for being a part of the collab.
Ulrik - nice sliding melodies in the solo and a good guitar tone but if I'm not mistaken you are using old strings on your guitar which can cause intonations to go out and a very "wavy" sound. I added chorus, phase, reverb and delay to your sound. Thanks for your participation in the collab.
Blister - very chilled solo, you showed great restraint and your note choices were spot on. I had to boost the signal quite significantly but made very few other changes. Thank you for your take.
Cosmin - thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule and adding your solo. Great volume swells and those bends were very tasty indeed. Thanks again
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/gmc-student-teacher
Thanks Pat, and great job to everyone who participated
The mix sounds great!Patrik, I think we are the only two Aussies active on GMC at the moment It just came to mind looking at your profile Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 9 2013, 08:36 AM
Regarding the need to "boost my signal", is there something I can adjust when recording to make a stronger signal?I must agree with everyone else on how great this collab turned out. I am very pleased to be involved in it. I, too, am looking forward to your next collab!
Hey Gary! What are you using to record? To increase the signal, you should turn the interface guitar input channel gain up, but be careful not to overdo it or the signal can become distorted.
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 10 2013, 01:54 PM
Thank you to everyone that participated and thank you for your kind words, I think your solos were all outstanding.
Regarding the need to "boost my signal", is there something I can adjust when recording to make a stronger signal?What are you using to record with?
The mix sounds great!Patrik, I think we are the only two Aussies active on GMC at the moment It just came to mind looking at your profile yeah there aren't too many of us aussies but we work on quality not quantity anyway
Posted by: Blister Oct 11 2013, 12:58 AM
Guitar -> Line 6 UX1 Interface -> Reaper w/Overloud TH1 Amp Modeler Plugin
I went back to my Reaper project & noticed I could/should have increased the Output level in the TH1 plugin. Also, would increasing the Reaper Track level & Master level helped any? The "Output" control on the interface seems only to control the volume. I really appreciate the help!
Posted by: Patrik Berg Oct 11 2013, 01:20 AM
I went back to my Reaper project & noticed I could/should have increased the Output level in the TH1 plugin. Also, would increasing the Reaper Track level & Master level helped any? The "Output" control on the interface seems only to control the volume. I really appreciate the help!
I've never used a line 6 UX1 interface, is there a channel volume/gain? If so then make sure you have that turned up enough that when you see the meters in reaper starting to peak with the reaper sliders set to 0db then you are getting a strong signal. Once I have rendered my tracks I then open a new project in my DAW and drag the new track to it and then boost the whole thing with a peak limiter to get the volumes up to near CD volume. I'm probably not the best person to talk to about this as I'm quite new to it all too but why not send a PM to Todd, he is a guru when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 11 2013, 08:29 AM
Hey again Gary - glad you spotted the troublemaker Indeed, when it comes down to digitized stuff - Todd is the man to go to. I am an analog guy and I am mainly using my ears to get my tones.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 12 2013, 03:44 AM
Todd here ;0) You can increase the input gain on your interface or you can increase the output gain on TH2 or you can do both :
Be aware of how "hot" you are making the signal. If you push it too hard, you will see the meter stick in the red line on reaper. And you will get too much noise
Todd
Indeed, when it comes down to digitized stuff - Todd is the man to go to. I am an analog guy and I am mainly using my ears to get my tones.Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 12 2013, 08:08 AM
Aye - Red, usually means 'turn it down a bit, will ya?' Kidding aside, I was helping a bass player friend with some recording last evening and we had a lot of trouble from the input coming out of a Hellborg bass preamp. There was a weird almost imperceptible noise on the recording. We tried everything - using different cables, another bass, using a different input on the interface. It was still there... any clues?
Posted by: Blister Oct 12 2013, 09:15 PM
: Be aware of how "hot" you are making the signal. If you push it too hard, you will see the meter stick in the red line on reaper. And you will get too much noise
Todd
Thanks Todd, Cosmin & Patrik. Silly me!
I should have known better. I guess I just haven't paid close enough attention to the output meter.I was just worried more about getting the notes right!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 13 2013, 12:39 PM
I should have known better. I guess I just haven't paid close enough attention to the output meter.I was just worried more about getting the notes right!
No worries mate - you could work on a recording routine for the future:
- set everything in place
- make tests for the audio recording quality
- practice a few times with the Red light on and forget about it then
- leave it on and start playing and then after having 4-5 takes - select the one which is the best
- after that listen to it and see what you would like to perfect
- re-record knowing exactly how your take should sound
- be careful to export the tracks with the exact settings
This is how I see it - how do you do it, mate?
Posted by: Blister Oct 23 2013, 05:07 AM
Sorry for the delay, I've been reading the forum but just didn't have the time to write anything. I always take to long in writing (I think way too much on what I'm writing). 
- set everything in place
- make tests for the audio recording quality
- practice a few times with the Red light on and forget about it then
- leave it on and start playing and then after having 4-5 takes - select the one which is the best
- after that listen to it and see what you would like to perfect
- re-record knowing exactly how your take should sound
- be careful to export the tracks with the exact settings
This is how I see it - how do you do it, mate?
This is how I am recording now. I use Pod Farm & Overloud TH1 modeling software for my tones. What I didn't realize was that when I modify the amps & effects in the modeling software, my output level was being changed stronger or weaker (mostly weaker) & I overlooked adjusting it.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 24 2013, 09:42 AM
This is how I am recording now. I use Pod Farm & Overloud TH1 modeling software for my tones. What I didn't realize was that when I modify the amps & effects in the modeling software, my output level was being changed stronger or weaker (mostly weaker) & I overlooked adjusting it.
Well, now that you have spotted the issue, you can take care of not letting it meddle in your recordings again
There's another collab started by Patrick that you can jump in if you wish: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=50346
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