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Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 24 2021, 07:19 PM

...with Rick Beato.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 9 2021, 02:51 AM

Just now ran across this for some reason? Thanks for the share I'm a fan of Gambale's playing and back in the day he was a very big guy on the shred scene even though he didn't really do shred, more jazzy stuff. He's just an amazing player imho.

Here is a troy grady video about Franks technique.

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 9 2021, 09:46 AM

That's very interesting, thanks for sharing, I kinda know what modes are but I don't understand how to use them.

For instance, just using the white keys on piano (C major / A minor) I can't see how to get different feelings or musical essences/flavours by starting from a different note, maybe it's just my ears.

I do find it fascinating though, Gambale is immense.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Oct 9 2021, 02:17 PM

For me, as Frank says, it should probably called "moods" and not "modes". That is one of the shortest and best explanations I've heard. Dorian is one mood, Lydian is a different one and so on. It's not just "starting from a different note" imo though, it's the whole combination of notes in the lead and backing track. If you're playing an A minor scale over a C major chord it's gonna sound like you're playing something "happy" still. However playing an A minor scale over an E minor chord will sound more "aggressive" (phrygian). Anyway, that's more my interpretation of the "moods".

I made this short example about 2 years back. Maybe not the best, but yeah:

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Here's Frank's Modes no More Mystery:

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 9 2021, 04:22 PM

Whenever I listen to people talk theory like that No More Mystery video, it makes sense, then when I think about it later, I get confused. Maybe it's my ear, if I played only the white keys on a keyboard, I would know if I was playing one of the modes or a multitude of modes, I'd just play what sounded okay to me.

I really struggle with this kind of thing.

Thanks for trying though buddy

Posted by: Steve Gilfield Oct 9 2021, 05:22 PM

It all depends on what the bass note or the chord is; if you have a piano, play and hold a low C note. While doing that, play any white key. You will be playing C Ionian.

If you play and hold a low B note, and then start hitting any white key on the piano, you'd be playing B Locrian.

But to really hear the difference between each of those, you should play and hold one note (i.e. A) and try playing different modes in A (i.e. A lydian, A Dorian etc.)

That's when you will listen how different modes are, and what kind of "mood" they give.

I hope I helped

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 9 2021, 07:42 PM

Thanks Steve, one day there will be a light bulb moment hopefully

Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Oct 9 2021, 10:40 PM

I guess it's just diferent shades, If u have a simple C going on the background and play Eb then E, your will get two distincts shades of C.
Every note as its own flavour against a Root.

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 10 2021, 04:20 PM

Thanks, I think I need to experiment in order to understand what you're saying

Cheers