Guitar Chat 2007-07-03 |
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Guitar Chat 2007-07-03 |
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Jul 13 2007, 08:22 PM |
07:55:17 Robin: Hi
08:12:36 icedern: morning 08:12:56 icedern: at work again so i'll be semi afk 08:13:40 Robin: Hi ho 08:13:41 Robin: mkay 08:14:16 icedern: man, last night was stressful getting that house ready 08:14:26 icedern: that guy wanted to move in today 08:14:49 Robin: haha 08:14:55 Robin: so... are you already moved out? 08:15:07 icedern: well, he paid me 600 cash this morning 08:15:07 icedern: yah 08:15:17 Robin: ah ok 08:15:25 icedern: I was already mostly moved out 08:16:02 Robin: hmm I'm going a bit afk now btw. so I wnot be answernig for maybe 30min! see you a bit later 11:34:00 Eat-Sleep-andJam: hey robin 11:41:02 icedern: this stupid connection at work keeps dropping me outta here 11:41:43 icedern: I was just looking at that 7 string vai ibanez...omg.. i want 11:44:29 Robin: Hi there 11:46:17 icedern: Hey Robin 11:46:24 Eat-Sleep-andJam: hey guys 11:46:47 Eat-Sleep-andJam: sry Im trying to respond to different topics. 11:46:53 icedern: hey there 11:47:11 icedern: its cool. I'm at work anyways 11:49:45 Robin: gonna watch some battlestar galactica season 3 see ya 11:51:09 icedern: cool 11:51:48 Eat-Sleep-andJam: bye 14:18:44 muris: working ice? 14:19:27 icedern: hey Muris...yah 14:19:38 icedern: stuck at work 14:21:39 icedern: What are you up to? 14:23:30 muris: hey 14:23:37 muris: all goog 14:23:46 muris: editigd vides for new lesson 14:24:03 muris: Fxxx 14:24:09 muris: editing videos 14:24:32 icedern: oh nice. What is your next lesson 14:24:47 muris: some picking stuff 14:24:50 icedern: haha, ya speaking of editing 14:24:57 muris: alternate acctualy 14:25:44 icedern: i need to work a lot on that 14:25:44 icedern: cool 14:25:45 muris: all fine at work? 14:26:07 icedern: rather be playing 14:26:32 muris: can tell 14:27:19 icedern: haha, yah i'm going to be without my guitar for 5 days so i wish i could be playing now 14:27:54 muris: why for that long? 14:28:04 muris: going somewhere? 14:29:44 icedern: yeah, about 4 hours south of where i live to a lake 14:33:04 icedern: Whats up Gen 14:34:29 Gen: hey guys 14:34:32 Gen: not a lot 14:34:43 icedern: cool 14:44:25 muris: hey gen 14:44:34 muris: working something so didn't see you 14:44:42 muris: all ok? 14:49:35 Gen: yea 14:51:47 Gen: hey, i g2g, i ll come later, bye 16:37:50 Robin: Hi there 16:38:10 leedbreak: well, hello to u 2 16:38:39 leedbreak: never much in here is there? 16:38:45 Robin: oh sure there is 16:38:53 Robin: yesterday we were 9 people in here 16:39:02 Robin: we are a bunch of 4-5 people here everyday usually 16:39:07 leedbreak: wow, I had seen that many but not offten 16:39:30 Robin: seems like the last couple of weeks the chat activity have been growing 16:39:39 leedbreak: good 16:39:51 leedbreak: where you from? 16:39:58 Robin: North norway. you? 16:40:06 leedbreak: alabama USA 16:40:28 leedbreak: hows the weather there? 16:40:43 Robin: really really good actually 16:40:47 Robin: warm and sunny 16:41:01 leedbreak: cool same here with 99.9 % hum 16:41:03 Robin: been some thunder earlier though. not much. bu 16:41:21 Robin: but usualyl its just cold and cloudy here havent had much good weather this summer 16:41:41 leedbreak: well we are in worst drout in 25 years 16:43:22 leedbreak: How old r you and how long you been picking 16:45:05 leedbreak: whoops gota go lateres 16:45:24 Pavel: hey there 16:49:17 Robin: Hi 17:22:45 Gen: hahaha hi robin *meow* *slap* 17:22:53 Robin: HEHA 17:22:53 Gen: *whip* 17:22:55 Gen: lol 18:13:38 Gen: hey muris 18:15:39 Gen: haha , hi slam!!! 18:15:44 Slammer: LOL 18:15:47 Slammer: what up? 18:16:00 Gen: not a lot 18:19:46 Slammer: so how was your day? 18:19:56 Gen: cool 18:20:00 Gen: and yourse? 18:20:15 Slammer: I spent the Day Volenteering 18:20:22 Slammer: doing Charity Work! 18:20:34 Slammer: Helping poor people 18:20:41 Gen: lol 18:20:43 Gen: really? 18:20:47 Slammer: it's true! 18:20:50 Gen: great 18:20:54 Gen: its cool 18:20:59 Slammer: I helped bring food to Poor people! 18:21:08 Slammer: who can't afford it 18:21:18 Gen: actually, i always steal food to poor peoples 18:21:20 Gen: lol 18:21:21 Gen: jk 18:21:43 Slammer: but I didn't have any Swiss Cheese or Chocolate! 18:21:50 Gen: haha 18:21:59 Slammer: nobody likes it!! 18:22:08 Gen: i like 18:22:10 Gen: lol 18:22:14 Gen: chocolate 18:22:19 Gen: btu cheese... 18:22:28 Slammer: Swiss cheese has holes and Smells 18:22:28 Gen: lets say im not a big fan of swiss cheese^^ 18:22:30 Gen: but* 18:22:43 Gen: yea, it has holes 18:22:46 Gen: many holes 18:22:48 Gen: lol 18:22:52 Slammer: it's like a Ripoff 18:23:10 Slammer: you buy cheese and it has HOLES!!! 18:23:16 Slammer: Damn.... 18:23:19 Gen: lol 18:23:20 Gen: hahaha 18:23:49 Gen: are you against holes? 18:24:01 Gen: omg lol, i better stop there 18:24:02 Gen: haha 18:24:29 Gen: i dont want to launch the slam lol 18:41:14 Gen: muris, you re here? 18:41:20 Gen: *meow* 18:42:12 muris: whf??? 18:42:19 muris: Slammer?? 18:42:24 Gen: ? 18:42:27 muris: dude.I'm working here 18:42:31 muris: just saw this 18:42:53 muris: no need for this 18:43:03 Slammer: I know I;m a Idiot 18:43:05 muris: all ok 18:43:09 Slammer: but I'm leaving 18:43:15 Gen: hey 18:43:19 Gen: what s happened? 18:43:21 Slammer: today is my last Day 18:43:37 Slammer: I will not Renew my Sub. 18:43:54 Slammer: today is my last day on 18:44:03 muris: nothing gen 18:44:07 muris: we're cool 18:44:28 muris: quit with it,ok?? 18:44:50 Slammer: ok GoodBye then! 18:45:04 Slammer: 18:45:06 muris: I mean oposite 18:45:08 Gen: 18:45:10 Slammer: Goodbye Gen 18:45:11 muris: but as you wish 18:45:11 Gen: ? 18:45:36 Slammer: My Subsribtion ends on the 17th of July 18:45:44 Slammer: I will not Renew it Gen 18:45:56 Slammer: I need the money for other things 18:46:02 muris: you should 18:46:03 Slammer: I just decided it 18:46:09 Gen: ... 18:46:09 muris: no need for ding this 18:46:18 Slammer: but today is my last day in the Chat 18:46:20 muris: specialy not because of me 18:46:31 muris: not mad at you or som 18:46:39 muris: just busy at the moment 18:46:49 Slammer: I know... 18:47:18 muris: so why are you doing this?? 18:47:19 Slammer: it's just I decided a long time ago that even though I love GMC I don't think I will Renew 18:47:28 Gen: slammer you re not going anywhere! you stay here!! 18:47:32 Slammer: sorry Gen 18:47:38 Slammer: this is it for me 18:47:52 muris: i think he's making a joke again gen 18:48:01 Gen: i hope so 18:48:03 muris: but hard one 18:48:14 Slammer: I will be around the Forums for the Next Few Days untill my Sub runs out 18:48:46 muris: well then you wanted to go anyhow 18:48:58 muris: don't blame yourself or me 18:49:04 muris: yoiu decided it before 18:49:52 Slammer: but ok guys I'm leaving the chat for one last time 18:49:55 Slammer: bye guys 18:50:08 muris: hmm 18:50:16 muris: strange guy 18:50:23 muris: he'll be back I'm sure 18:50:25 Gen: i really hope this is a joke... 18:51:59 muris: me too 18:52:26 muris: I had some talk with him about behavior 18:52:33 muris: but that;s not a reason for doing this 18:59:06 muris: will continue here 19:10:02 Gen: sorry, i g2g sleep, hehe, i got to work tomorrow 19:10:03 Gen: bye 19:10:11 Gen: *meow* 20:24:10 Sircraigery: hey muris 20:24:35 Sircraigery: hey man 20:24:43 Andrew Cockburn: HEy guys 20:25:20 Andrew Cockburn: Hey rok 20:25:24 Sircraigery: hey man, i was gonna ask you, when you are doing a solo, do you usually use a scale to the key of the chord the rythm is playing? 20:25:28 Sircraigery: yo 20:25:35 Andrew Cockburn: Good question 20:25:47 rokchik: Hello All 20:25:48 Andrew Cockburn: The answer is yes or no 20:25:50 Andrew Cockburn: 20:26:09 Andrew Cockburn: What you would usually7 do is find a scale that fits over most of thechords you are playing 20:26:17 Andrew Cockburn: SOmetimes that is not possible 20:26:26 Andrew Cockburn: so you miught switch scales threough the song 20:26:39 muris: Hey folks 20:26:43 Andrew Cockburn: Or you might do it deliberatelky for effect 20:26:47 Andrew Cockburn: Hey Muris 20:26:55 rokchik: I may be slow as looking at Gabriel's rocker riff...the RATM caught my eye...LOL 20:26:57 muris: hi Andrew 20:27:02 muris: what's new? 20:27:11 Sircraigery: i'm so new to scales man, i'm not sure if i know what you mean by fits over all the chords, sorry if it's a real amature question haha 20:27:22 Andrew Cockburn: muris - just playing a little 20:27:30 Andrew Cockburn: No that;s ok = 20:27:30 muris: cool 20:27:42 muris: I saw you got your Jem after all 20:27:45 rokchik: Sircraigery....I'm still in the Am penatonic box so don't worry 20:27:46 muris: congrats!! 20:27:46 Sircraigery: what's everyone listening to? 20:27:47 Andrew Cockburn: I have a lesson on this stuff 20:27:53 Andrew Cockburn: muris thanks 20:28:09 Sircraigery: i know the major and first 2 pentatonic boxes lol 20:28:16 Andrew Cockburn: The basic idea is that you can build chords out of the sscales you are using and it all fits ogether 20:28:25 Gen: aaaaaaaaaaaa i cant sleep!!! 20:28:30 Andrew Cockburn: let me find you a link 20:28:33 Gen: lol btw hi all... 20:28:34 rokchik: I learned that from your theory lessons Andrew 20:28:36 Andrew Cockburn: Gen drink more beer 20:28:40 Gen: hehe 20:28:47 muris: 20:28:47 Andrew Cockburn: rokchik lol good girl! 20:28:49 Sircraigery: oh, so if the chords fir inside a scale? or over the template or whatever...(you know what i mean) 20:28:56 Sircraigery: hey gen 20:29:04 rokchik: thanks...I try 20:29:05 Andrew Cockburn: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=3630 20:29:06 Gen: but thats really annoying cuz i have to work tomorrow... 20:29:06 Sircraigery: fit* 20:29:15 Andrew Cockburn: Like your new Avatar BTW - very soothing 20:29:30 Gen: who? 20:29:35 Andrew Cockburn: rok 20:29:50 rokchik: Andrew...I never got any Theory practice in this weekend...I left my notebook at work and I was avoiding that place like the plague for fear of OT 20:29:53 Andrew Cockburn: Hey muris - you wringon a new lesson ? 20:29:58 Andrew Cockburn: lol 20:30:00 Sircraigery: oh wicked, that andrew. i'd be screwed on this site if it wasn't for you haha 20:30:03 muris: almost 20:30:05 rokchik: Thanks Andrew 20:30:10 muris: uploding slow vids at the moment 20:30:12 Sircraigery: i mean thanks, not "that" lol 20:30:16 rokchik: I'm all about the calm.....very Zen 20:30:23 rokchik: LOL 20:30:26 Andrew Cockburn: Find your centre .,.. 20:30:55 muris: 20:31:00 Andrew Cockburn: Damn ! I finally learned to really relax my picking hand - really making a difference to my playing 20:31:02 rokchik: That's not hard to find...haven't been to the gym since the shoulder thing 20:31:07 rokchik: lol 20:31:09 Andrew Cockburn: lol 20:31:17 Andrew Cockburn: No more Ice Hockey ? 20:31:24 rokchik: not till the winter 20:31:40 Andrew Cockburn: Isn;t that next week where you are ?? 20:31:42 rokchik: no baseball this summer either...still a bit of a problem 20:31:44 rokchik: LOL 20:32:00 Sircraigery: brb, reading this lesson 20:32:09 rokchik: Actually I think we've entered into Monsoon season..it's pis*ing down rain here 20:32:10 Andrew Cockburn: Jolly good 20:32:15 Andrew Cockburn: Nice ... 20:32:27 Andrew Cockburn: So what's the new lesson about Muris? 20:32:47 muris: ahh,some picking stuff 20:32:51 rokchik: Muris...I haven't check out your lesson yet...sorry 20:33:02 muris: few arpeggion at 5 strings 20:33:06 muris: all alternate 20:33:10 muris: stuff like that 20:33:23 Gen: cool 20:33:24 Andrew Cockburn: Aha - we'll show those sweepers !!! 20:33:25 muris: no prob rok 20:33:28 Andrew Cockburn: Sounds great 20:33:29 muris: take your time 20:33:40 muris: it'll be here till the end of time 20:33:41 muris: lol 20:33:50 Andrew Cockburn: Hey guys - I'm writing a lesson tomorrow - any ideas what I should do next? 20:33:55 rokchik: I've been jumping around lately..can't seem to get focused 20:34:23 muris: don't know for sure Andrew 20:34:25 rokchik: but loving Gabriels rocker riff right now...very Tom Morello..I likey alot 20:34:44 muris: I still think that guys have wrong point of view for modes 20:34:45 Andrew Cockburn: Yes I like the way Gab breaks stuff down into stylistic basics 20:35:03 Andrew Cockburn: muris what do you mean? 20:35:13 Sircraigery: maybe something on combining scales? i saw kris's lesson on it, and it was a good base, but wouldn't a bit more info, or examples ya know? 20:35:17 Andrew Cockburn: Modes are always interesting to write about 20:35:36 rokchik: I agree Andrew...I have some stuff writen down that I'd like to learn but I have it all in my notebook at work 20:35:39 muris: well,many will say,dorian is on 2th degree of something,lydian on 4th degree etc 20:35:55 muris: longer way I think 20:36:06 Andrew Cockburn: YEs, I am trying to dispell that myth - it has a lot do do with the way modes are taught I think 20:36:18 Andrew Cockburn: I took a lightly different approach in my modes lesson 20:36:20 muris: for sure 20:36:27 muris: i was though that way at school 20:36:34 rokchik: I haven't got to modes yet...still at the circle of fifths 20:36:36 muris: no point of it I guess 20:36:37 Andrew Cockburn: Me too - never understood it until recently 20:36:58 muris: modes are quite simple 20:36:58 Andrew Cockburn: degrees of the scale is a way to generate modes but it is not what they are 20:37:10 muris: correct 20:37:17 Andrew Cockburn: They are shifteed intevals within a scale 20:37:27 Andrew Cockburn: but you choose them by cycling threough 20:37:39 muris: yeah 20:37:53 Andrew Cockburn: So people always compare C major with D dorian and don;t get it 20:37:57 rokchik: going over my head and under my feet now Andrew...LOL 20:38:00 Andrew Cockburn: when they shouild compare c maj and c dorian 20:38:03 muris: good thing shall be to make groups of major and minor modes 20:38:09 muris: maybe you did it before 20:38:12 Andrew Cockburn: Yes, that's a good pattern 20:38:17 muris: sorry if I missed topic 20:38:27 Andrew Cockburn: No, I did one lesson so far 20:38:36 Andrew Cockburn: on moded - plus a lesson on modal pemtatonics 20:38:44 muris: cool 20:38:49 Sircraigery: if anyone knows the binary counting, that's kinda how i think of the modes, like a bit-shift right or left lol 20:39:02 Andrew Cockburn: lol - thats a really good way to think of it actuakky 20:39:03 Sircraigery: is that right? 20:39:12 Andrew Cockburn: its a great image, I know whatr you mean 20:39:16 Andrew Cockburn: as a coimputer guy 20:39:18 muris: and just point at note difference 20:39:25 Sircraigery: electronics tech 20:39:30 muris: beetween major/minor and mode 20:39:42 muris: one note 20:39:48 Andrew Cockburn: Yeah, I like that approach 20:40:06 muris: accept locrian 20:40:09 Andrew Cockburn: Like Lydian = Major with #4, Dorian = Minor + #6 20:40:19 muris: but no help of it anyhow 20:40:20 Andrew Cockburn: Yes, Locrian is really difficult 20:40:34 Gen: hey fmx 20:40:39 FmX: hey people 20:40:41 Sircraigery: yeah i dn't know all of them, i just read it over a bit to get the terms good, before i get going on remembering everything 20:40:44 rokchik: Hey FmX 20:40:45 muris: can't ude it as home mode 20:40:48 muris: hey fmx 20:40:54 Andrew Cockburn: Muris - I thnk I even put that in a table in my lesson, but I don;t rememebr exactly 20:41:09 rokchik: Did you learn " Good Riddance " after...FmX 20:41:10 muris: yeah might be 20:41:16 muris: i was reading it 20:41:21 FmX: hehe yea I did actually 20:41:22 muris: long lesson as well 20:41:27 rokchik: cool 20:41:27 muris: maybe I missed it 20:41:37 Andrew Cockburn: YEah, wanted to get the facts across 20:41:50 muris: sure 20:42:10 muris: but just copy that table few times 20:42:17 rokchik: Andrew I love your theory lesson...I'm sure your sick of me saying that but they are so well written and easy to understand 20:42:20 muris: ctrl D 20:42:40 Andrew Cockburn: Rokchik, I will never tire of you telling me that 20:42:45 Andrew Cockburn: I am a monster of vanity! 20:42:46 rokchik: lol 20:42:48 Sircraigery: you know what i would like to make? a beginners guitar with the notes written on the top of the neck (where the "player's view" dots are) 20:42:55 Sircraigery: not on the face of the neck 20:42:59 muris: hehehe 20:43:14 Sircraigery: just for scale keys 20:44:43 Andrew Cockburn: You know Muris, I might write a modes part 2 as an alternative view and emphasize the major minor thing, thats a great way to understand their tonalities beter 20:44:45 muris: why not 20:44:47 Sircraigery: no one likes it? 20:45:04 muris: hell yeah Andrew 20:45:24 muris: must get this mistery solved at once 20:45:39 Andrew Cockburn: Yep - GMC will be the source of all Modal understanding! 20:45:52 muris: correct 20:46:09 Sircraigery: you know what i would love a lesson on? learning how to tune by ear. there has got to be a way that someone with perfect pitch visualizes the note...like how they ring? or at least i do that when i'm listening 20:46:17 Andrew Cockburn: On the subject of modes, I am really enjoying Dave Wallimans modal study lessons 20:46:23 Sircraigery: maybe i'm just on crack haha 20:46:28 muris: Sir,that's hard to make a lesson for it 20:46:40 muris: ear needs practicing 20:46:41 rokchik: Sircraigery...I think that's something that will come with time 20:46:48 Andrew Cockburn: Once you get the first note it is easy to do but still hard to explain! 20:46:53 muris: to remember sound of open strings 20:47:00 Andrew Cockburn: Yes, experience is the best help 20:47:18 rokchik: I could never tune before without a tuner...but now I can Drop D and back to standard no problem 20:47:18 Sircraigery: yeah, i can do it after the first string, but sometimes i'm way off on the first string and think it's bang on haha 20:47:34 muris: ahh 20:47:43 Sircraigery: like if i'm re-stringing or something 20:47:52 muris: you're talking about absolut pitch? 20:47:55 rokchik: And I can tune the other strings pretty close...still need to play with it a bit but I'm getting there 20:48:50 rokchik: again I think it's just something that will come with time and practice 20:49:04 Sircraigery: oh here's a good one, when tuning with harmonics, which fret do you go on for strings 2,3? 20:49:22 Sircraigery: i get lost there haha, nothing sounds right between the two of them 20:49:22 muris: no frets for that 20:49:40 muris: they are in major 3th interval 20:49:49 muris: not 4th like rest ot them 20:50:09 Andrew Cockburn: Guitar would be veyry logical if they hadn;t thrown that in 20:50:17 rokchik: lol 20:50:30 muris: lol 20:50:33 Sircraigery: so instead of 5 & 7, i'd go 4 & 7? 20:50:33 muris: yeah 20:50:49 Andrew Cockburn: exceo there are no harmonics there 20:50:51 muris: not really 20:50:57 Sircraigery: dammit haha 20:50:59 Andrew Cockburn: and if they were they would be wrong 20:51:08 muris: but you shall use 4 fret on G and open B 20:51:11 muris: good tho 20:51:44 Andrew Cockburn: You can do 12th on the 2nd and 7th on the 6th 20:51:51 muris: but hey 20:51:54 Andrew Cockburn: an 12th on 1st and 6th 20:52:03 muris: 5th on B and 4th on G 20:52:08 muris: same note 20:52:26 muris: higher that on rest of the strings 20:52:30 Sircraigery: yeah, the difference when learing it in harmonic form is alot easier hear 20:52:38 Andrew Cockburn: Good one Muris 20:52:50 muris: 20:53:22 muris: it's hard to get that harmonics on accoustic guitar tho 20:53:34 muris: those 20:53:47 muris: but on electric it's just fine 20:54:05 Sircraigery: soft left hand, and hard right hand lol 20:54:18 muris: lol 20:54:19 muris: way to go 20:54:32 Sircraigery: i learned on acoustic, so i'm good to go there 20:54:42 rokchik: I can't do artificial harmonics worth poop...sorry at second part of Gabriels lesson 20:54:44 Sircraigery: wel...started learning 20:54:45 muris: great!! 20:55:16 Andrew Cockburn: I ws useless at them for years, then sometyhing clicked and I can do them up the wazoo now 20:55:37 Andrew Cockburn: breakthrough for me was chinging to a heavier pick and differebt grip 20:55:40 Sircraigery: same with pinched harmonics, i can let those rip good 20:56:01 rokchik: I C... 20:56:02 Sircraigery: i find where you do it on the guitar changes the pitch alot 20:56:10 muris: must pick the right place on string 20:56:25 rokchik: That's my problem 20:56:26 Andrew Cockburn: yes - I pick different places for a 5th or octave depending on what I am playing 20:56:30 muris: small miss and no scream 20:56:36 Andrew Cockburn: 20:56:42 Sircraigery: i pick right at the right side of the neck humbucker, works best for me there 20:56:46 rokchik: That's what Im getting...no scream 20:57:06 muris: hmm 20:57:26 rokchik: oh just did it...hurray 20:57:27 Sircraigery: my problem was trying too hard at it for a while, and once i didn't think about it they come naturally 20:57:37 muris: each note played with left hand needs different spots for it 20:57:38 Sircraigery: aka...holding my thumb there too long 20:57:42 rokchik: back to poop...so close yet so far 20:58:05 muris: great rok!! 20:58:13 Andrew Cockburn: yay! 20:58:26 Andrew Cockburn: (for one at least!) 20:58:30 muris: you're some distortion there or? 20:58:32 rokchik: lol 20:58:41 Sircraigery: you'll love distortion 1000x more once you get them totally down lol 20:59:00 rokchik: I have the distortion on 20:59:06 Andrew Cockburn: treble up? 20:59:06 muris: yeah 20:59:15 Andrew Cockburn: Try either pickup 20:59:19 muris: easier with it and best for it tho 20:59:20 rokchik: not alot 20:59:32 rokchik: turned up now though 20:59:41 Andrew Cockburn: Well AH's are hogh pitched do treble helps them a lot 20:59:53 Sircraigery: so just a recap on scales, the degree is the # of step? ex, 5th degreee of the "alphabet scale" if there was such a thing haha, would be E? 21:00:08 Sircraigery: staring on a 21:00:09 Andrew Cockburn: Almost 21:00:20 Andrew Cockburn: Actually yes 21:00:26 Sircraigery: sweet 21:00:31 Andrew Cockburn: but I meant to say you have to take sharps and flats into account 21:00:47 rokchik: cool...i'll keep plugging away...I have the firts part of the lesson down cold and most of the second just that harmonic giving my grief 21:01:04 muris: go for it rok! 21:01:13 Sircraigery: yeah, i was just making the alphabet scale as a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i...et 21:01:32 Sircraigery: cool, lots of theory sinking in 21:01:33 muris: you got it right 21:01:37 Andrew Cockburn: Wow, you just invented some new note 21:01:52 muris: lol 21:01:57 muris: didnt see i 21:01:58 Sircraigery: yeah...h is kinda my trademark haha 21:02:06 muris: and h 21:02:21 muris: Sir,where are you from? 21:02:25 Andrew Cockburn: Wonder what they sound like 21:02:33 rokchik: I think i just played it...didn't sound good...LOL 21:02:49 Andrew Cockburn: LOL - you are trying for harmonics and geting h's and i's 21:03:01 Sircraigery: i'm from alberta, canada 21:03:10 muris: cool 21:03:12 rokchik: Yeah...long day at work 21:03:13 Sircraigery: you? 21:03:14 muris: check this out guys 21:03:34 Sircraigery: h is all open haha jk 21:03:36 muris: here in Bosnia and ex Yugoslavia alpha bet goes like this 21:03:43 rokchik: TWo crazy Canucks on the chat...we're taking over 21:03:45 muris: ,a b c d e f g h 21:03:46 rokchik: lol 21:03:47 muris: but 21:04:04 muris: it music tones it goes like this 21:04:20 muris: a h c d e f g a 21:04:30 muris: and now the coolest part 21:04:33 Andrew Cockburn: Yes - there was a threa don this a while back 21:04:36 muris: note Bb 21:04:39 Sircraigery: uhmm....well how about h is...i have no theory to back this up 21:04:40 muris: is B here 21:04:41 rokchik: That's just confusing...for me anyway 21:04:47 muris: lol 21:04:53 Andrew Cockburn: lol so B is H but Bb is Bb ? 21:04:56 muris: it's confusing to me too 21:04:58 muris: I mean 21:05:02 Sircraigery: perfect! 21:05:25 muris: when I sapek to my folks I use H as B and B as Bb 21:05:35 muris: but here must switch to B is B 21:05:38 rokchik: the H I played didn't sound like any B I ever heard...LOL 21:05:43 Andrew Cockburn: lol 21:05:44 muris: and Bb is Bb 21:05:52 Andrew Cockburn: muris you must be smarter than the rest of usd then 21:05:58 Andrew Cockburn: I'd get confused ... 21:05:58 muris: lol 21:06:04 muris: check out my head 21:06:12 muris: it's all like bubble 21:06:20 Andrew Cockburn: Hey muris, isn;t it about 3am where you are? 21:06:25 muris: from this h b bbb hhhbb 21:06:30 rokchik: ok ok...I just started Andrews Theory stuff....go go confusing me LOL 21:06:39 rokchik: don't* go 21:06:40 Andrew Cockburn: 21:06:41 muris: yeah 21:06:44 Sircraigery: 7 here, just got off work, have a whole night of playing ahead of me 21:06:46 muris: it's 3 am here 21:07:02 muris: watching a soccer game 21:07:02 rokchik: 1006 pm here 21:07:07 muris: chating with you 21:07:14 muris: and uploading new lesson 21:07:15 rokchik: who's playing 21:07:19 muris: cool 21:07:30 rokchik: soccer I mean 21:08:11 Sircraigery: how long have you been playing andrew? 21:08:19 Andrew Cockburn: 30 yers 21:08:21 Andrew Cockburn: years 21:08:32 Andrew Cockburn: 25 of them wasted 21:08:36 rokchik: wow 21:08:47 Andrew Cockburn: well maybe 20 wasted 21:08:53 Sircraigery: sweet, can you do sweeps and stuff? like malmstein? 21:09:00 Sircraigery: i wasted a few years too 21:09:00 Andrew Cockburn: nope 21:09:05 muris: Urugvay vs Venezuela 21:09:07 muris: sorry 21:09:10 rokchik: Andrew..I tried to check out your web site the other day but it wouldn't work 21:09:10 Sircraigery: i'm probably around 5 years actual playing 21:09:10 Andrew Cockburn: not a shredder - working on it though 21:09:26 rokchik: Muris...under 20 tourny? 21:09:29 Sircraigery: hey andrew, i thought i seen you playing on youtube 21:09:38 Andrew Cockburn: not me 21:09:39 Sircraigery: it was before i seen this site 21:09:52 muris: no,this is Copa America 21:09:52 Sircraigery: oh it was a guy that looked just like you then, kicked ass haha 21:09:54 muris: A teams 21:10:12 Andrew Cockburn: wouldn;t have been me if he kicked ass 21:10:16 rokchik: ahhh...we ahve the under 20 tourny going on over here in Canada right now 21:10:29 muris: cool 21:10:38 Sircraigery: if your playing is like your theory, i'm sure your not too shabby haha 21:10:48 rokchik: very...just wish I could have gone to see some of it 21:10:58 Sircraigery: i can play master of puppets (sounds good), and that's as hard as i get 21:10:59 Andrew Cockburn: I poted a couple of things on the uploads board - check out Floydian Dreams and Remwembering Amanda 21:11:14 Sircraigery: well, the main parts anyways, solo's scare me 21:11:36 Sircraigery: i'll check them out 21:11:39 rokchik: I agree sircraigery...I sorta stay away from most solos 21:12:03 Andrew Cockburn: that's where the real funis! 21:12:06 Sircraigery: i'm just not confident in my timing to do solo's 21:12:25 Andrew Cockburn: You have to kind of go through timing and out the other side 21:12:29 Sircraigery: like doing thing's double time, quarter time etc.. 21:12:38 rokchik: I know...but I usually mess up get frustrated and put the guitar down 21:13:10 rokchik: I'll wait until my speed and acuracy is better...I do some solos but nothing overly tuff. 21:13:44 Sircraigery: i do solo's from like....silverchair haha they are easy but i like them 21:13:52 Sircraigery: just for practice 21:13:55 rokchik: The solo in About a Girl by Nirvana is about my speed right now..LOL Although I'm getting better at the Tom Morello stuff 21:14:07 muris: Andrew,you have some videos of your plaing? 21:14:18 muris: playing 21:14:26 Sircraigery: i have a crappy 1 take video if you want to see that 21:14:28 Andrew Cockburn: nope,just some recordings 21:14:37 Sircraigery: it's nothing special, just me screwing around 21:14:45 muris: make some!! 21:14:50 Andrew Cockburn: I'll get around to doing a video lesson or two for the site eventually if Kris will accept them 21:15:02 muris: will love to see you playing! 21:15:09 Andrew Cockburn: But I want them to be amazing 21:15:13 Sircraigery: you have any muris? 21:15:18 muris: well make something for yourself 21:15:37 muris: and put on your website 21:15:50 muris: yeah Sir,I got few 21:15:56 Andrew Cockburn: I will 21:16:00 Sircraigery: let's see em 21:16:13 muris: www.murisvarajic.com 21:16:25 muris: videos section 21:16:28 Sircraigery: awesome website man 21:16:53 muris: you'll probably love imrovisation video 21:16:56 muris: thanks sir 21:17:24 Sircraigery: dude you kick ass! haha 21:17:51 FretDancer69: hello people 21:17:57 muris: hey fret 21:18:02 FretDancer69: hows it going 21:18:12 muris: cool.you? 21:18:13 Sircraigery: how long have you been playing? 21:18:25 FretDancer69: cool, just finished practicing, ill take a lil break 21:18:28 muris: 13-14 years I think 21:18:39 rokchik: Hey FretDancer69 21:18:40 muris: yeah why not fret 21:18:47 FretDancer69: hey there rokchik 21:19:02 FretDancer69: lol 21:19:06 FretDancer69: yeah i deserve it 21:19:15 Sircraigery: man, i like your style, you have a tone of feeling in your songs 21:19:31 muris: thanks 21:19:39 muris: I try not to shred a lot in my tunes 21:19:55 muris: but I do some stuff in vids 21:20:08 FretDancer69: muris, are you working on a record? 21:20:19 muris: yeah,second one 21:20:40 Sircraigery: so is that your job? or you just having fun? 21:20:40 FretDancer69: oh, awesome, hows the 2nd one going? 21:20:49 FretDancer69: good question 21:20:51 muris: great by now 21:21:00 muris: have 8 tunes at the moment 21:21:08 muris: plus 3 with vocals 21:21:15 FretDancer69: are u the one singing? 21:21:15 muris: 21:21:22 muris: yeah 21:21:27 FretDancer69: cool, 21:21:28 muris: I looooove to sing 21:21:36 FretDancer69: yeah same, but i wish i could lol 21:21:56 muris: you know,many have same problem 21:21:59 rokchik: I wish I could sing LOL 21:22:04 muris: not god to by shy a lot 21:22:07 muris: must sing 21:22:32 muris: ahh 21:22:35 muris: not good to be shy 21:22:54 FretDancer69: so do u guys like the new homepage design? 21:23:07 muris: welcome Andrew 21:23:39 muris: is it new? 21:23:49 muris: haven't noticed 21:23:52 FretDancer69: well, its sure different 21:23:54 FretDancer69: check it out 21:23:59 FretDancer69: lol 21:23:59 Andrew Cockburn: sorry browser crashed 21:24:01 Boggi: hey 21:24:03 muris: since when? 21:24:06 FretDancer69: hello 21:24:07 Sircraigery: muris how did you get into that? i mean i have a small band that we play bars n stuff but you've got a whole professional set up going there haha 21:24:08 Boggi: woow many people here . 21:24:08 FretDancer69: just a while ago 21:24:09 rokchik: I hate the browser crash 21:24:27 FretDancer69: yeah i wanna go professional at guitar when i get better 21:24:35 FretDancer69: but unfortunately you cant do that here where i live 21:24:51 muris: and where do you live? 21:25:01 FretDancer69: Honduras, Central America 21:25:07 muris: mate 21:25:11 muris: I'm in Bosnia 21:25:15 muris: ex War Zone 21:25:19 muris: 21:25:27 FretDancer69: well, the reason i said that its bcuz 21:25:29 Boggi: mursi have you earned alot money from music ? 21:25:36 Boggi: muris* 21:25:38 FretDancer69: my country is very poor country, and even more poor in the music business 21:25:44 rokchik: Hey Boggi 21:25:50 Boggi: Hey 21:25:50 muris: well I'm not a milioner I guess,but it's good 21:25:53 FretDancer69: and most music here is Reggaeton, idk if you have heard of it 21:26:09 FretDancer69: yea thats what i wanna do, not rich, but make a living out of music 21:26:13 Boggi: I see you have a big studio, it must a cost a bit of money. 21:26:16 Sircraigery: awesome good for you man 21:26:19 muris: fair enough 21:26:21 rokchik: Sounds like a plan Fret 21:26:27 FretDancer69: yea, im definately going for it 21:27:14 muris: that studio is property of friend of mine 21:27:20 muris: I have a home studio 21:27:31 Sircraigery: i just like playing during weekend with my friends, don't want anything more 21:27:34 muris: enough for my stuff 21:27:46 FretDancer69: thats awesome 21:27:57 muris: what kind of music do you play with your band sir? 21:28:19 FretDancer69: Metal 21:28:29 muris: cool 21:28:32 Sircraigery: well...in the band? haha popular radio music, for the bars. none of us are wanting anything big, so we just play stuff that people want to hear 21:28:35 muris: for fun or paid ? 21:28:39 Andrew Cockburn: dammit did it again 21:28:41 Sircraigery: we all have different personal styles 21:28:43 Andrew Cockburn: User error this time 21:28:50 rokchik: Hello again Andrew 21:28:50 Sircraigery: just for fun, we don't get paid 21:29:01 FretDancer69: im having band troubles rite now, i think 2 people will have to leave..but i still wanna be friends... 21:29:02 Andrew Cockburn: Hi there 21:29:07 muris: that's cool tho 21:29:12 Sircraigery: we play like U2, and 3 Doors Down and stuff 21:29:36 rokchik: U2 r awesome...saw them in Toronto a couple years ago 21:29:45 rokchik: amazing concert 21:30:02 muris: yeah.U2 is great band 21:30:13 muris: first big that came to Bosnia after war 21:30:16 Boggi: anyone heard the new "The Scorpions" cd ? 21:30:17 Sircraigery: yeah i like them alot, and the guitar isn't that hard...well it isn't too fast. that's why theyncall him edge doesn't give any notes away he doesn't have too haha 21:30:21 muris: in 97 I think 21:30:35 rokchik: Boggi...no I haven't 21:30:43 Sircraigery: i have the scorpions "best of" cd...i love it 21:30:46 muris: yeah,Germans did a great job 21:30:51 muris: hard tunes,love it 21:31:00 Boggi: they are coming to my town 4 august. 21:31:08 rokchik: they rock us like a hurricane 21:31:12 muris: naaaaaajz 21:31:13 Boggi: to the Faroe Islands. 21:31:26 Sircraigery: i love the tone they have in "winds of change" in the beginning 21:31:31 Sircraigery: just awesome 21:31:34 rokchik: Great tune 21:31:39 Boggi: like 60.000 people here, and in my town there is 4000. 21:32:23 rokchik: ya gotta love small towns...there are only about 8500 in mine 21:32:41 Sircraigery: i grew up in a town of 1200 lol many many bush parties 21:32:42 Boggi: wich country ? 21:32:49 rokchik: but I basically live in the woods 21:32:56 rokchik: Canada 21:33:02 Boggi: oki 21:33:31 Sircraigery: muris, are those pearly gates you have in the guitar? 21:34:02 Boggi: mursi youre jamming videos is very good. 21:34:07 muris: which guitar? 21:34:07 rokchik: I live in Labrador and there are less than 40,000 people here in total.....this part of the country is all wilderness 21:34:20 FretDancer69: wilderness is cool 21:34:20 Boggi: it inspires me . 21:34:33 Sircraigery: the one your playing on the site....either it's a musicman, or wofgang 21:34:34 rokchik: lots of bears 21:34:42 muris: Musicman 21:34:55 Andrew Cockburn: Polar Bears??? 21:35:00 FretDancer69: lolLol 21:35:01 Sircraigery: haha no no 21:35:04 FretDancer69: lol 21:35:20 muris: yeah,gates on mechanics are pearly 21:35:22 rokchik: actually yes....but mostly black bears.. 21:35:28 Sircraigery: not even in baffin island right? 21:35:33 muris: but more like sedeph 21:36:05 Sircraigery: muris....i have no idea what you just said lol 21:36:19 muris: though so 21:36:20 rokchik: There are polar bears in Northern Labrador...I can send ya a pic of one if ya like 21:36:29 muris: don;t know how you call that material 21:36:33 muris: we call it sedef 21:36:35 Andrew Cockburn: Only if yuo took it! 21:36:50 rokchik: my boyfriend did does that count? 21:36:58 Andrew Cockburn: Yes! 21:37:24 rokchik: I wouldn't go near it...and it had already been shot 21:37:34 muris: forget about gates sir,we have hard time with it 21:37:37 rokchik: my mama didn't raise no fool 21:37:46 Sircraigery: uhm, let me rephrase my question. what kind of pick-ups do you use in the music man? 21:37:58 Andrew Cockburn: LOL 21:37:59 muris: holy 21:38:10 muris: DiMarzio at the moment 21:38:24 muris: but soon I'll put Stan Hinesley's pickups inside 21:38:30 Sircraigery: ok 21:38:45 Sircraigery: are those more of fatter sound? 21:39:04 muris: mean Stan's? 21:39:09 Sircraigery: yeah 21:39:14 muris: hmm 21:39:21 muris: can't tell at the moment 21:39:38 muris: he's going to make me some custom puckups 21:39:49 muris: his idea tho 21:40:25 Sircraigery: that would be awesome, tell him to put your anme on them 21:40:30 Sircraigery: name* 21:40:32 muris: hehehe 21:40:38 Boggi: muris, when you were younger and trained alot guitar, did you have a practise session if the day, or did you just jamming around ? 21:40:45 muris: must open it each time I wanna see it 21:41:10 muris: I was jamming and practicing 21:41:20 Sircraigery: on the front, like a seymour duncan 21:41:20 FretDancer69: how much did you practiced a day? 21:41:23 muris: acctualy both are practicing 21:41:33 muris: ahh yeah 21:41:43 muris: but there's no covers here 21:41:51 muris: with covers it;s easy to make 21:42:18 Sircraigery: oh yeah, just take them in and get them engraved...i never thought of that 21:42:33 Sircraigery: maybe I'll do that with my les paul 21:42:35 muris: good idea tho 21:42:39 muris: I'll tell him 21:42:44 muris: 21:43:02 Sircraigery: call them the "Muris Mofo's" lol 21:43:08 muris: lol 21:43:21 Andrew Cockburn: 21:43:36 Boggi: of all youre experience with youre practising, what had the biggest effect in youre improvements ? 21:44:10 Sircraigery: for me, using the drum machine while playing with songs 21:44:36 muris: can;t tell for sure,everything I guess 21:44:37 Sircraigery: it's way better than just playing along with your cd player 21:44:50 Boggi: any secret ? 21:45:28 Andrew Cockburn: Yes - the secret is PRACTICE!!!!! 21:45:33 muris: lol 21:45:35 muris: knew it 21:45:36 Sircraigery: yepper 21:45:54 FretDancer69: im lookin at Bosnia right now in GoogleEarth, its very far away! 21:46:02 muris: it's all about hard work boggi 21:46:06 muris: no big secret 21:46:22 muris: but I'll tell you something 21:46:28 muris: sing as much as you can 21:46:39 muris: sing what you're playing 21:46:51 muris: sing on the street,in the shover 21:46:53 Sircraigery: i have an hour drive to work and back, so i sing lots everyday haha 21:46:54 muris: all the time 21:46:55 rokchik: Andrew that email is thinking about going 21:47:00 Boggi: yeah thats what I was looking for. 21:47:07 Boggi: singing. 21:47:18 Boggi: great to improve my ears 21:47:27 muris: and playing 21:47:30 muris: believe me 21:47:32 Boggi: yea sure 21:47:43 Sircraigery: i'll be back later tonight guys, supper is on the table 21:47:45 Boggi: I play hard 21:47:49 Sircraigery: and girl 21:47:56 muris: ok sir 21:47:59 muris: see ya 21:48:01 FretDancer69: ok 21:48:03 FretDancer69: see ya 21:48:11 rokchik: there are more boys than girl so guys is OK 21:48:17 rokchik: c ya 21:48:37 muris: rok how old are you? 21:48:40 rokchik: 30 21:48:47 rokchik: just turned 21:48:53 muris: great 21:49:01 muris: how long have you played? 21:49:03 rokchik: only been playing for 2 yrs though 21:49:13 muris: awesome 21:49:17 rokchik: wanted to learn for a long time 21:49:20 muris: just love to see this 21:49:28 rokchik: figured I should before I hit the big 3 0 21:49:43 muris: it's never late 21:49:57 rokchik: changed my life really...kinda corny I know but true 21:50:10 FretDancer69: lol 21:50:10 muris: it's ok 21:50:16 FretDancer69: it also changed mine 21:50:16 Boggi: lol 21:50:18 FretDancer69: lol 21:50:25 Boggi: mine too 21:50:48 Andrew Cockburn: rokchik just got it thanks 21:51:00 rokchik: I find it's a great tool for relaxing, a great stress releaver 21:51:10 rokchik: no problem Andrew...happy it worked 21:51:15 muris: yeah 21:51:39 rokchik: and now I just listen to music different 21:51:52 rokchik: more of an appriciation 21:52:17 muris: yep 21:52:25 muris: music IS a jewel 21:52:32 rokchik: here here 21:52:47 Andrew Cockburn: ITs been with me all my life - would be lost without it 21:53:25 muris: yeah 21:53:30 muris: music is all inside 21:53:42 muris: and that's how I became a Jedi 21:53:45 muris: lol 21:53:53 Andrew Cockburn: lol 21:53:56 rokchik: I've always had it with me...just not in a "hey I can play it" sorta sense. I'd be lost without music 21:54:13 muris: may the force be with us 21:54:44 rokchik: Ahhh but are we Dark Side..... 21:54:57 muris: noooooo 21:55:04 rokchik: I always prefered the red light saber 21:55:10 Andrew Cockburn: NO, the rappers are 21:55:13 muris: hehehe 21:55:17 rokchik: lol 21:55:31 rokchik: I was thinking from a metal point of view 21:55:44 muris: Coolio is Dart Waider 21:55:48 muris: I'm sure of it 21:55:50 muris: 21:56:22 rokchik: I don't know...with his hair...I'd be surprised it would go under a helmet 21:56:27 rokchik: lol 21:56:33 Andrew Cockburn: is Dart Waider Bosnian for Darth Vader? 21:56:38 rokchik: Dr. Dre maybe...or Diddy 21:56:52 muris: hmm no 21:57:02 muris: I made a mistake in writing 21:57:06 Andrew Cockburn: lol 21:57:09 muris: we write as we spell 21:57:18 muris: we spell as we write 21:57:23 muris: one letter-one sound 21:57:26 muris: all the time 21:57:28 Andrew Cockburn: some days I don;t do either ... 21:57:55 FretDancer69: 50 cent 21:58:06 Andrew Cockburn: Ok guys and gals, I have to go - my wife is probably lonely (or that is what I tell myself) 21:58:09 muris: ahhh 21:58:12 rokchik: well boys gotta go get some shut eye...Andrew enjoy the pics. Talk to ya all later 21:58:15 muris: he's Imperator 21:58:17 FretDancer69: you mean the JEM? 21:58:20 FretDancer69: lol 21:58:24 FretDancer69: ok, cya man, 21:58:26 muris: lol 21:58:31 Andrew Cockburn: No, my real wife - the one who let me buy the Jem! 21:58:34 Andrew Cockburn: Seeya all 21:58:38 muris: see ya Andrew 21:58:40 rokchik: The Jem is his mistress 21:58:41 Andrew Cockburn: seeya Rok 21:58:42 FretDancer69: bye andrew 21:58:45 Andrew Cockburn: lol 21:58:47 FretDancer69: bye rokchik 21:58:49 FretDancer69: take care all 21:58:49 Andrew Cockburn: don;t tell my wife! 21:58:54 muris: bye rok 21:58:58 rokchik: c ya guys...I won't andrew 21:59:03 Andrew Cockburn: 21:59:05 Andrew Cockburn: gnight 21:59:06 FretDancer69: cya, practice hard! 21:59:10 rokchik: she probably knows anyways...we always do 21:59:11 FretDancer69: night 21:59:15 FretDancer69: lol 21:59:15 Andrew Cockburn: lol 21:59:35 FretDancer69: well, i think my brake is over, ima go practice more 21:59:40 FretDancer69: cya later muris, take care 21:59:43 FretDancer69: night 22:12:57 Sircraigery: wow this place cleared out fast... |
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